No oil? I would seriously be missing plastic. Or at least cheap plastic.
Looking forward to April 30!
There is a book I read a few years ago. After a major oil spill, a biotech company released a bacteria or something like that to eat the spilled oil...but then it got out into the world and destroyed all petroleum products.
Certain types of resultant hydrocarbons may be mixed with other non-hydrocarbons, to create other end products:
Alkenes (olefins) which can be manufactured into plastics or other compounds
Lubricants (produces light machine oils, motor oils, and greases, adding viscosity stabilizers as required).
Wax, used in the packaging of frozen foods, among others.
Sulfur or Sulfuric acid. These are a useful industrial materials. Sulfuric acid is usually prepared as the acid precursor oleum, a byproduct of sulfur removal from fuels.
Bulk tar.
Asphalt
Petroleum coke, used in speciality carbon products or as solid fuel.
Paraffin wax
Aromatic petrochemicals to be used as precursors in other chemical production.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:25 am
ItWasntMeISwear
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:11 am
cb_vicious
Yeh, I'm in... this is something that really interests me. I've always wondered how life would be without any petroleum based products... and it's not really possible for me.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:53 am
missphinx
No oil? I would seriously be missing plastic. Or at least cheap plastic.
Looking forward to April 30!
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:27 pm
RedHatty
The concept of a world without oil is a very scary one. Many people have never considered how they would survive heat/cold without eletricity. Even oil or coal furnaces rely on electricity to move the warm air through the vents. The city lines that transport our water also rely on electricity. It is more than a travel option (gas cars). All industry wuold come to a standstill & of course, we wouldn't have use of our computers anymore either (no electricity).
Survivalist training is good to have, even the most basic skills, but without a way to communicate with others that you are trying to meet up wioth..... Life could be very dangerous. Society would devolve quickly.
All in all - sounds like this should be an excellent game about a real potential future.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:23 pm
SpadE
At the bottom of the page, there's a starting plot synopsis.
The text in the screengrab talks about "8TSOC (8 to save out country)
The man who leaked the info (our antagonist, presumably) is Nico
I'm jumping in. This will be my first real game (playing through Heroes 360, but that doesn't count), so I'm excited.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:52 pm
Rogi Ocnorb
"Understand the procedure now? Just stop a few of their machines...throw them into darkness for a few hours and then sit back and watch the pattern. They pick the most dangerous enemy they can find......and it's themselves."
Rod Serling: The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:51 pm
Esteed
Well, I figure, always plan for the worst.
Which is why I have a large binder with the word "Z" on it locked in my closet. Just in case. Y'know. >.>
Seriously though? I think it would depend on how sudden the situation came up. If it were gradual? Yeah, human society may not be the most adaptable thing in the world (ironically enough) but we'd be able to get the concept through the collective skull that, "Hey, we need a back-up plan, guys!" But if it were sudden?
All hell. Seriously, human society en masse rarely deals very well with sudden, lifestyle-changing shock. Factioning, paranoia, fighting and possibly small-scale wars would all probably break out over the remaining reserves of oil (as undoubtedly people would still have some in their gas tanks and cars) and then when that ran out? Yeah, then people would realize that they should've been figuring out the right way to do things instead of running around like a chicken with it's head cut off. But by then it'll be too late and most of us will be SOL.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:12 pm
AprilAWZ
Esteed wrote:
How to fight, because undoubtedly we'd need to protect whatever resources we had from other groups seeking similar resources. Sad fact of life it may be, but if we want to keep what we've got in a situation like that, we'll need to do more than just say, "Don't take my shit, please?!"
Wilderness survival. People with no skill in that area (myself included) are relatively safe traveling through the wilderness in a car, because you are A.) protected and B.) guided along a fairly straightforward path. Without A, though, people like me could be in for a world of hurt when it comes time to put up or shut up. I don't mean the common sense stuff, like, "If you see a bear, RUN!" I mean recognizing poisonous plants, hunting, that sort of thing.
hehe...I'll sign on as technical advisor in that case...lol!
This is wildly interesting to me....hubby is deeply entrenched in the ethanol industry, I'm a stay at home mom to a menagerie of beasts and gardens on our little organic hobby/sustainence farm. We are both hunters, archers, paddlers, campers...yeah, we actually might be prepared..lol!
But in all honestly, the whole "peak oil" conversation (don't even get me started on the political angle of it..lol!) comes up from time to time in our home. I don't see the whole scenario becoming a survival situation a'la Jerico, but we both think there will be a hell of a shock during the transition from an oil based to a solar/hydro/wind/biofuel based society.
So, all that said, yeah, I'm looking forward to this one!
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:52 pm
Rogi Ocnorb
Noah: "Yeah... What's a cubit?"
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:39 pm
labfly
rose wrote:
And I want to know how we will sail to ARGFest London.
i can sail! of course i've never sailed anything over 48 feet but with the right "crew" i feel confident we can cross that pond! now we need to build a boat.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:08 pm
Insane24Seven
Time to start taking swimming and shark fighting lessons to make ARGFest next year ...
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:07 pm
konamouse
RedHatty wrote:
OMG! I never even considered a cruise - talk about vacation time! But it would ROCK!
Funny you mention that....although that would require oil.
If the timing is right, I was thinking of getting myself scheduled to work the week on the Queen Mary (CanyonRanch SpaClub) to get me & the shark over to the UK. Unfortunately, I don't think the cruise line could operate without oil....so we're back to the schooner idea.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:05 pm
RedHatty
rose wrote:
And I want to know how we will sail to ARGFest London.
OMG! I never even considered a cruise - talk about vacation time! But it would ROCK!
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:59 pm
Dasro_Kast
rose wrote:
And I want to know how we will sail to ARGFest London.
Make sure there's lots of fruit, we don't want anyone getting scurvy, ARRRRrrrrgh.