Will the internet go down if no oil? I assume so, I guess we will have to see how it is explained in the game. It turns out that nuclear power is the greatest source of energy used by NYC - or it was in 2005. Still, that didn't help in the blackout.
I found this quote which I liked from a 2005 post:
Quote:
Let me simply state that I am not one of those "head for the hills" type of people who thinks they can completely insulate themselves from the impact of peak oil by founding an eco-village or some type of intended living communities. Rather, I see the answer to peak oil not in each person becoming more independent from society, but rather from forming more local/regional levels of interdependency and self-sufficiency - local energy generation, local food production, local manufacturing bases, communities that are relatively self sufficient for the basics of life.
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I'm with you on this, Fictional. - one of the biggest points made by all these oil crash websites is that oil is our main source of power - no oil = no power. I see big chunks of the internet going down as servers are bricked, and they say that J. random isn't going to have light, let alone internet access.
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:10 pm
fictional_girl
It is made pretty clear that collaboration is one of the main points of this game, which is made pretty clear by the info found by memory of whitness:
Quote:
How real is the phenomenon of citizen journalism?
Would citizen journalism have taken off if the Web had been prevalent in the '50s?
How has, and is, the relationship of the public and the media changing?
How has, and is, the role of journalism changing?
What are the dynamics driving citizen journalism and 'user-generated content'?
Why has the media sector been so receptive to, and un-critical of, 'user-generated content'?
So, I tried spreading the word about this to the rest of my Earth/Environmental Science class, and needless to say, public school 9th graders have an attention span of 0.2 seconds.
My biggest question is, though, what is the relevance of blogging communities after the oil shock happens. I mean, wouldn't you think people would be spending less time blogging and more time trying to survive?
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:14 pm
chrisjill86
This may be a stupid question...but is yuckymuck somehow related to gracesmom (sharon)? He keeps calling her "mom" on his and her LJ
yuckymuck
2007-04-17 07:56 pm UTC (link)
lol Mom. She comes by my house at all hours wielding a cattle prod and a graphics CD. S. is always 'sure, go on back, he's just sleeping'... at least you're in NH
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:28 pm
cissmiace
Re: mPathytest articles
New IM posts
lirath wrote:
Auto Response from mPathytest (10:12:37 PM): Not good.
I'm not sure how to do the linky goodness, but there you go. BTW, I'm:
LJ - Lirath1
VOX - lirath
AIM - lirath
You know, I was looking at their auto response and I never even saw they were links! *headdesk*
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:43 am
Sirius B.
Another Pitchfork Recruit
^ I would also like to apologize in advance for any music snobbery I might exhibit. This is my first exposure to an ARG (already addicted). I'm still catching up on everything, but I intend to help out as much as I can.
Thanks to CaptainZ for helping to get me caught up! Contact info below.
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:20 am
qqwerty
has anybody considered gaming the housing bubble concurrently with wwo?
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big impact in the suburbs with both occurring simultaneously......
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:53 am
lirath
mPathytest articles
New IM posts
Auto Response from mPathytest (10:12:37 PM): Not good.
I'm not sure how to do the linky goodness, but there you go. BTW, I'm:
LJ - Lirath1
VOX - lirath
AIM - lirath
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:46 pm
imbri
A couple of friends are building an Earthship. It's a house that's made, essentially, out of dirt, tires, bottles, and glass. It collects water, flushes it through the house in various stages that actually helps to maintain the energy efficiency of the house. And, of course, it uses solar energy. It's so efficient that it's may be possible to not only go off the grid but to create enough energy that you can add to it.
The idea fascinates me and we talked about doing it, but for a variety of reasons have decided against it. It makes me sad, but we're doing what we can to build a house with the smallest footprint possible. Yeah, we're a couple of hippies, but I think it goes beyond that now and leans into practicality.
I'm not one much for doomsday scenarios and, frankly, I'm not all that concerned about a world without oil - necessity is the mother of invention. We've got a strong capitalist society that is incredibly eager to cash in and I'm fairly confident in their ability to see us through the transition. And, frankly, I'm anxious to get off this oil addiction - it's pretty dirty business (both in terms of the Earth and Society) But, it's not just up to the corps, we can and should be doing our part to reduce energy consumption and be as earth friendly as possible.
And, while I'm getting all hippie freak on y'all - have you seen the talk about Second Life and how much energy your Avatar consumes? Tony Walsh of Clickable Culture (and Regenesis & Ocular Effect) wrote an [url="http://www.secretlair.com/index.php?/clickableculture/entry/open_letter_to_the_second_life_environmental_council/"] Open Letter to the Second Life Environmental Council[/url] and included the frightening thought that when the Brazilian version launches this week, those Brazilians that use it will be doubling their average energy consumption. What a waste.
(and forgive me if any of this has been posted here already, I've not been following the thread all that closely - just happened to notice Rose's mention of solar cooking)
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:46 pm
rose
Solar cooking
Several years ago I helped my son build a model of a hydroelectric generator as a demonstration of electromagnetism. (it is mostly magnets and copper wire with lots of turns in it. ) I emember when we were looking for the plans to build the generator, we kept getting websites on solar energy - I guess the link was alternative energy.
One project was to build a solar oven out of pretty much readily available materials. For some reason this always sounded like fun to me. So, I plan to try it out. I don't know if it will get hot enough (ie direct sun) here for it to work, I am pretty sure that in August it would - but I will give it a try.
Although maybe this isn't too useful for world without oil as the stove I have uses gas... I already know how to make a hydroelectric generator that creates enough energy to light the tiniest possible light bulb - maybe that knowledge will come in handy?
One more thought - my biggest concern in a world without oil shock is that the most vulnerable people - the elderly, children and the disabled as well as anyone with a low income (you don't have to be poor to run out of emergency money!) - will suffer the most. A similar situation happened in Hurricane Katrina where many people simply didn't have the resources they needed. I could see the same thing happening here.
I'm not sure how I would tell my elderly neighbors about World Without Oil. I might. But I am going to check with the local senior center that sponsors Meals on Wheels, so they can at least have my name as a person who is willing to check on senior citizens who might otherwise be alone. I doubt that they can give me the names of the people in my building who might need help, but they can certainly give them my name.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:09 pm
DarthBunny
Morning all - I haven't been around this place or ARGs long, but I've been following this for a little while and think I'm also joining in this one, seems interesting and should finally encourage me to do some real blogging. I hope you guys don't mind me adding everyone I can find to the following LJ & Vox:
Everyone friend me if you can. im new to Vox and LJ and im havin trouble figurin it all out. Talk to ya later!
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:44 pm
nitefoll
I've also tried to contact localboy but got no response. Although he seems to be online 24/7 he's not responding to any chat requests.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:30 pm
lubbarlubab
The Localboy thing has always seemed odd, because he's always online and it seems like a SN that would've been registered long before WWO began. So I asked him point-blank:
That's good enough for me. If anything, it's just a good example of what Jane was talking about when she said that ARGs force people to sift through the real world and try to determine what is useful and what is not. Unless new information comes up, I'm personally calling this SN a dead lead.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:10 pm
chrisjill86
Same here...last night I talked with localboy on AIM briefly...he acted as if he was "unaware", and acted somewhat strange. I was going to save the convo and post it but I accidently deleted it....apologies. Today I asked him about 8TSOC and his last response was "Please stop sending me messages"
-I don't know how and if he ties in, or is he calling our bluff? But, I did find a localboy on myspace. Is that unrelated?
-Oh, and I am gonna join some of these LJ's and such as I get caught up!
EDIT: Please feel free to add me to LJ: chrisjill86