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Perko
Hello gang, I just started this thing yesterday, and am still trying to absorb it all. Judging by the last yahoogroup message, this thing is not quite over yet, and you've all missed something important somewhere. I wish I could say I know where, but it's all rather confusing. Since any one or more of the videos could theoretically easily be faked by the person being "killed" (afterall, they're fake IRL, at least I hope so!), one can argue that the killer could be anyone of the supposedly dead people, too. But I'm not really seeing a motive or purpose to the whole thing right now.

A few questions:
1) At face value, it would seem that the killer ought to be either James, Samuel, or Michael, they stand out among the film club members. All have been suggested here, but James is presumably not the one. Have the PMs officially rejected Samuel or Michael at this point?

2) Can someone explain to me how to find Jessica's murder video? I don't see anything at her myspace site, no links anywhere, and no videos attached. I'm wondering if it's been recently deleted or something?

3) How are folks getting an invite into the TenDead yahoo group? It shows only 8 members. By sending mail to the address at the end of the prof murder? Will any mail do, or would I have to pass some sort of test of merit? I take it we think the PMs are moderating it?

One thing I find strange/suspicious is that Michael supposedly joined the Le Prince club on June 16th, much later than anyone else. The "chef" video was first reported here on the 15th, and it was added to YouTube on the 11th. So it seems clear that something is amiss here. I thought initially that maybe a player joined the club and used Michael's picture as his own. But since Michael wasn't already on the list, and the PMs presumably renumbered the names at some point and included him as #1, then I have to presume the member is in-game. In which case the guy in the chef video isn't Michael... Maybe it's James? The video points directly to Michael's blog, which is why we think it's him. But I think in every other case the blogs/webspaces point TO the video, not the other way around. You can argue that this is simply an exception due to it being the rabbithole, of course. Or it could all be a production mistake, that Michael was initially accidentally omitted from meetup for some reason.

I think we have to assume that people whose faces we've seen being killed really are being killed, otherwise to whole thing kind of falls apart. So the prof is presumably dead. That leaves Michael and James, one of whom is presumably the body in the kitchen.

If Michael was the killer, it would make sense that he made it look like he's dead by adding himself to the film group (at a later date) and renumbering himself as one of the victims, while leaving James apparently alive and arranging things to make him look like the bad guy.

Since two people are seen in the Prof killing, if that's not a production mistake (and I think it is), another theory would be Michael and James are working together, at least at that time.

Another possibility is that the killer is one of the other 10 or so people that most of these guys have as friends on their myspace (i.e. Terry, Rob, etc.) although I haven't spend much time looking them over and I assume most of you haven't either since we focused on the club members.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:17 pm
ncfriend
another yahoogroup message
look out he's cranky..

from the yahoogroup moderator:

Quote:
photos and information are hard to come by... but one may lead to
another... and frankly, i am getting impatient... you think i invite
anyone to join this group!? i thought you all had talent... it
obviously only blessed me!


Havent been able to arg much this past week, so I havent reviewed the sites to see if anything new has been added or if we've missed anything. Anyone still into finishing this one up? I'd love to but it will be another week before I'm "FREE" again.

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ETA: here's the new photo he might be referring to: http://uk.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Tendead/photos/view/72ef?b=1
it was posted on June 19th though. so it may not be "new".

the name of the file is 5d2d.jpg

he writes in the description:
Quote:
james
this is james. why would he film himself? no, why would he upload the video? unless... he didn't.
By: Seyton7

Posted: Jun 19, 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:12 am
ncfriend
Been out of town since Wednesday
and still no news?

No replies, no strange videos, no leads or other rabbit holes?

wow.. i hope this one doesnt fizzle out.. it started so strong and was so well thought out and alot of work obviously went into this... i'd hate to for it to fizzle...

The next "Le Prince" meeting is tomorrow.... maybe some news then...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:09 pm
napobrassica
Okay, I am a former lurker that has decided to emerge after following this thread and witnessing Ten Dead. I am very new to ARGs.

I agree that this has been a very fun little ARG and I wish I had chosen this thread to read first as opposed to BristelGoodman.

I have not figured out who the murder is yet (plan on going back through all of my bookmarks and seeing if I missed anything), but I love the idea of it being Higgins. That is very And Then There Were None.

The thing that puzzles me most at the moment is that the "killer" from the Higgins video looks like the guy in the pictures on James Pinkwater's myspace. But James Pinkwater on the Society Members page is different. That will probably end up being nothing but it was in my head.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:46 pm
cissmiace
I've not heard anything either Sad Has anyone else?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:05 pm
ncfriend
yahoogroup

the moderator of the yahoo group approved my post to the group so it got published yesterday. But there was no response.

Quote:
I'm going to "resurect" pardon the pun, my older theory. Prof. Higgins is
a filmmaker and staged and filmed is own [edited to clarifiy: MOCK] death.
I believe you are Professor Higgins.


either he thought the solve was so ridiculious it deserved no response, or he is still trying to think of a good way to tell me to sit down and shut up. LOL

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:03 pm
cissmiace
Sure thing!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:33 pm
Lovecraft2514
I too just emailed them, asking, among other things, if he was Michael. If they post a reply on the yahoo group page will someone please post it on here, because they posted the response to my last email on there and I'm not even in the group.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:05 pm
cissmiace
I also emailed them back the other night asking if he was Micheal Very Happy

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:56 pm
ncfriend
There's a pic of Michael at the bottom of his blog, but you're right... we never saw Michael die, like we did the others. To tell you the truth, I thought it was Josh when we first found Josh's video... at that point we had only found Samantha's and i just thought oh, this is how that body that was getting boiled actually died.

I also replied to the latest yahoo group mail that we got. I said in it that I think he is Sam Higgins... no reply, private or though the group.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:42 pm
Lovecraft2514
There's no evidence to back this up, but it could be Michael killing them. We never saw him die, and the body that we presumed to be his we never saw the face on it in the video.

By the way that email that cissmiance posted was from me, I don't know why he replied on the yahoo page and didn't email me back though.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:32 pm
cissmiace
Re: I am going back...
to my original hypothesis...

ncfriend wrote:

Higgins is the only one that's NOT numbered at the meetup site.


I wondered if that was because he created the group and therefore it couldnt be changed, if that made sense.

Great theorys!

I just have to wonder why they would invite the prof to their party, seems like a weird thing to do. Also do you mean that the prof was her blind date?
Something doesnt sit right with me about that for some reason =\
And the fact we saw every single one of them killed, but we never saw Micheal die, we never even saw his face! And Im wondering if the second person in the prof killing video was Michael?

However if the numbers on the yahoo groups site are in fact a birthdate, then your right, it would fit the professor, but I dont know. I think I'll go back through all the videos later on and see if I missed anything.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:02 am
ncfriend
I am going back...
to my original hypothesis...

I think its Higgins....He is a filmmaker... he staged and tapped his own murder film as a real project. He's was the only one where we see the killer(s), and therefore... i think his is not one of the "REAL" murders.
James was the one that turned him in to the school NOT because of the tv argument.. (although, that helped Higgins with his plan to frame James), but because James somehow figured out that he had nefarious plans for that club!

Think of each club member... they each would be aquainted with him, but not close.

It would explain why Josh would be so comfortable with his videographer for the Gardening Show....

Riddenhour was giving his "shpeel" not to a potential investor, but was taping his spheel as an audition tape to enter at www.janus4lifeco.uk. "Are you a designer? Do you have an idea that will save the world? Now's your chance to have your dream realized. To audition click register"

Sarah, KNEW her killer ("oh it's you... go away"). She probably met him on a blind date and considered him a "complete waste of time".

I'm not sure Fred even sees who he's dancing for because of the lights pointed at the area, and also he had shades on.

Jessica hires Higgins to help her film a realty walk through for potential clients looking to rent the flat. Jessica ask him "are you going to molly's next week?... yea? it's going to be cool!".

He was invited to molly's but we dont know how he got her in the bathroom.

Laura, she may have known who Higgins was but she probably kept her mouth shut because she knew he could get her "IN" on "Internet Idol" and also the very zealous plug of the "Le Prince film society" , was kind of cheeky.

Higgins is the only one that's NOT numbered at the meetup site.

i dont know... it just seems like that was my first instict.. it was questioned and i dropped it.. but now i'm thinking with the "did ten die?" question, it kinda brings it back up.

hmmmm Dunno

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:10 am
cissmiace
A very interesting post on the yahoo group! It seems to be a reply to someones email questions.

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Tendead/message/2

For those that cant view it here it is:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Subject:
From:
Date: June 18, 2007 10:16:19 PM BDT
To: 862700@...

Hello,

I am one of the people who has seen the videos you put on the
internet. I was wondering a few things. One, why did you put the
videos on the internet?
Two, if you are not James Pinkwater as you say, are you one of the two
Jimmy's on the ten dead's Myspace friends? Lastly, are you the one
that got Professor Higgins fired?
Thank you.


Re:

1 - people deserve to know
2 - know = no
3 - a better question is, did ten die?

EDIT: The only person we didnt actually ever see die is Micheal.


Shocked OOOOH Never thought of that!

*Bold is mine.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:45 pm
Lovecraft2514
I could barely hear them too. But I know she talks about who she believes to have gotten Prof. Higgins fired. Which is most likely the killer. Becasue sam probably told all her friends who she thought it was, so they then killed them all. I guess he was trying to frame James Pinkwater.

EDIT: Because if you think about it, the killer couldn't be someone in their group of friends, because if it was then Luke and Laura who were both under the impression they were being taped by a potential investor or a talent scout, would know that their friend was not either of those things.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:53 pm
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