Eric's back from hols, and had a chat with him last night but didn't have time to post it here. Here it is (sorry, lost the link to the log colourizer thing), with bits I think might be important hints examined beneath:
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22:26:02 Scribe: hi eric - good vacation?
22:26:55 Eric: Wonderful vacation
22:27:34 Scribe: :D good to hear
22:27:43 Scribe: free from web shenanigans i hope
22:28:25 Eric: oddly enough - yes.
22:28:41 Scribe: seems pretty quiet at the moment anyway
22:28:57 Eric: Yes - very much so... I don't know what the delay is at all.
22:29:10 Eric: I'm not sure if something happened...
22:29:49 Scribe: yes, things are obscure
22:29:59 Eric: I know the file that got out isn't the only file out there - there is one more they are supposed to send - a final one that someone ties to the one AA stole and exposed
22:30:10 Eric: I think that tends to be more of a ey.
22:30:12 Eric: key.
22:30:43 Scribe: why are they sending it to us? is this still a test?
22:31:22 Eric: It is a test of some sort - they want to find one person to take on some sort of duty and obvioulsy I'm not that person
22:31:36 Scribe: someone to take your place? *shudder*
22:32:00 Eric: They are looking for a certain individual... they may already know who that person is... or they may be looking for this person
22:32:26 Scribe: and the key is... key to determining them?
22:33:04 Eric: I don't know what the key will reveal - but I hope when someone figures it out they let me know! This has been a long road!
22:33:30 Scribe: you'll definitly be the first to know :)
22:33:47 Eric: I doubt it!
22:33:58 Scribe: ok, maybe second ;)
22:34:08 Eric: I wish I at least new a date... did anything seem to tie into a date?
22:34:28 Eric: knew*
22:34:53 Scribe: the 1/18 thing pops up a bit, i think someone suspects that points to 11th August. Or 18th January.
22:35:36 Eric: 118 is a date for sure... it seems to be a launch date for this mess in ways
22:35:47 Scribe: how can you know a date if it depends on people's actions though?
22:36:04 Scribe: the message appeared over st thomas island on the 18th of jan, iirc.
22:36:27 Scribe: and also seems to be when the webpages went live
22:36:36 Eric: I was on that isand - in june - wish that would have happened again :)
22:36:37 Scribe: you'd know that better than me :)
22:37:05 Eric: I guess I do know a little more - but I can't help that much at this point.
22:37:37 Scribe: do you think the file that's a key is just waiting to be found?
22:38:11 Eric: Some of those numbers have been following me around long before they found me - so it's a creepy coincidence... then again - different numbers mean different things to different people...
22:38:34 Eric: I think the key is out there and it will make the file make sense in some way. I think the key was there in the beginning
22:39:03 Scribe: maybe we see numbers everywhere. i certainly notice 118 a lot more now :)
22:39:17 Eric: Too funny - yeah - same here...
22:40:00 Scribe: you know that we decoded the message in the file?
22:40:17 Eric: No - but I was able to figure that out after awhile...
22:40:36 Eric: It really seems odd.
22:40:44 Scribe: figure the code out, or the fact that we had decoded it?
22:40:55 Eric: the code
22:41:20 Scribe: it seems to be a fragment, or a warning, at least
22:41:40 Eric: I knew it was a cryptogram - which anyone could solve - but the written numbers (not all of which seemed spelled correctly) made it a tougher lock to crack
22:42:03 Eric: I actually think the message is gibberish and that the numbers are more important from what little I know
22:42:14 Scribe: heh, yes. new numbers.
22:42:15 Eric: and the.... how should I say this... the names at the bottom
22:43:00 Eric: maybe I should have said words... maybe not...
22:43:03 Scribe: i'm racking my brain over them
22:43:09 Eric: good!
22:43:16 Eric: Let me know what you figure out!
22:43:17 Scribe: it is being tortured, poor little thing :)
22:44:37 Scribe: where have i seen your icon before, btw?
22:44:55 Scribe: it reminds me of the mysterious cities of gold, lol
22:45:46 Eric: hehehe no - that one is personal... no requests from them and so I put my own up there.
22:46:20 Eric: I forget that when I talk to people trying to figure this out - they see my image - which is probably why they make requests sometimes
22:46:32 Scribe: lol, that must get annoying
22:47:23 Eric: As long as I'm not involved in anything too dangerous here - and it doesn't bring my personal life to a grinding halt - I am getting used to this little burden. I much rather be on your side of things though.
22:47:36 Scribe: in time
22:48:14 Eric: I'm sure everyone has looked well into my personal life which must be less-than-interesting. Maybe I was involved on purpose for some reason - maybe just bad timing :)
22:49:14 Scribe: sorry about that :)
22:49:29 Eric: Hasn't had any negative effects.
22:50:51 Eric: well - have to run - have a good one - hope our talk helped. I was waiting.
22:51:41 Scribe: i will mull it over - thanks
Important bits?:
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22:29:10 Eric: I'm not sure if something happened...
Looks like they/Eric were expecting the file to turn up, but something out of their control may have delayed it. Something got lost somewhere along the line perhaps? (Some - including me - have spec'd that we were waiting on another ARG. Currently, I'm ruling that out as an Occam's Razor thing ;)
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22:29:59 Eric: I know the file that got out isn't the only file out there - there is one more they are supposed to send - a final one that someone ties to the one AA stole and exposed
22:30:10 Eric: I think that tends to be more of a key.
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22:38:34 Eric: I think the key is out there and it will make the file make sense in some way. I think the key was there in the beginning
Assuming "someone" should actually be "somehow"... "final one" is a curious phrase. Maybe it explains the meaning of the numbers though. Curious that it's there "in the beginning" too - this goes with my theory that we've been able to find "whatever" since the game started. But does "beginning" refer to the beginning of the game, or to the beginning of life? ;) Note also that Eric says the message we decoded is not the important bit (kind of obvious, I guess...):
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22:42:03 Eric: I actually think the message is gibberish and that the numbers are more important from what little I know
This bit's also a big hint at something:
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22:38:11 Eric: different numbers mean different things to different people...
Also, he gives us a hint as to the 4 items at the bottom:
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22:42:15 Eric: and the.... how should I say this... the names at the bottom
22:43:00 Eric: maybe I should have said words... maybe not...
Hmm. This would be consistent with previous messages (1, 2). Names? Words? Pointers/References to something? Is the fact that there are 4 of them significant? How can the cube root of pi be a "name"?
He also points at finding a date, for some reason:
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22:34:08 Eric: I wish I at least knew a date... did anything seem to tie into a date?
22:34:53 Scribe: the 1/18 thing pops up a bit, i think someone suspects that points to 11th August. Or 18th January.
22:35:36 Eric: 118 is a date for sure... it seems to be a launch date for this mess in ways
.. but I don't think 118 is necessarily the date he's thinking of. Is there another date lying around in there somehow, maybe one in the future?
My thoughts in total so far:
A file somewhere gives us meaning to the numbers, and the file is related to DNA. I want to go back over what AA3 said about "intramuscular flash drives", as I think that might tie in - maybe the numbers refer to genes? I really can't figure out what the "names" refer to though, other than Francis = Francis Crick.
Time to re-read this whole thread ;)
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:33 am
Scribe
Hi all, back, and glad I haven't too much to catch up with.
Nice one on the code everyone - I got the message too, but completely missed the backwards numbers. Will digest it in my dreams.
Coming back, I noticed my RSS reader picked up an update to Aulus' Live Spaces page - the background image was apparently updated, but looks the same to me - same circuit diagram thing.
However, the feed also included the name of the file, handily. It's called Mig60.jpg. A bit of Google research throws up the Sovtek Mig-60 Guitar Amp, and this page has the original picture (<- links here).
Nothing too spectacular, but thought it might be helpful to clear one thing up at least
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:32 pm
Mason
Eric is on holiday for 2 weeks (from now, I'm unsure as to how long he's been away).
I expect 118 now also refers to August 11th.
There are still puzzles open to exploration.
What's Mahasamparka got to do with it?
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:36 pm
DelVillan.
It might not be dead. We're pretty sure this connects to one or two other ARGs, though we're not sure which ones. So if some of the progress here is relative to another ARG, we might just be waiting on some group of players somewhere to find a particular solution so we can continue.
But, that's being too optimistic for me.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:36 am
ncfriend
another dead arg?
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:38 pm
mortality
Google seems to think the writing on found.jpg is Tamil.
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:29 am
Cowabella
JUNK DNA
Maybeeee...
catherwood wrote:
I spent too much time looking for extra-long words, never thinking about there being "junk dna" strands embedded in them. Thanks!
Now, is there any reason they chose 1187624311842 to put in there? (Possibly reversed as 2481134267811)
Probably way out in left field, but we're dealing with alot of junk DNA at the Genesis Code barn right now...
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:25 pm
DelVillan.
Something else strange that I noticed, though probably far-fetched, is that the cube root of pi is 1.464591889, rounded. Most of those digits are in the sequence found, with the leftover digits having the ability to neatly make up the five and nine in the center.
But, I don't think that's much of anything.
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:17 pm
tipsila
My apologies for the double post.
Just wondering here... I noticed some things in common.
The numbers (118 76 243 118 42) are similar to the coordinates we have received previously. The St. Thomas location 18 20' 06.15" N, 64 56'34.28" W, and the Detroit location at 42 19' 40.00" N, 83 3' 6.26" W (also the 342/243 in the seconds of the St. Thomas location). What about 76?
76 as a latitude, either north or south, brings us to the poles, although neither are nice places to lay on the beach and drink margaritas - unless one is a penguin
Something else odd, but "op libra" anagrams into BIPOLAR, and the cube root of pi is used for determining the volume of a sphere, if I am not mistaken?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:37 pm
tipsila
Thanks. And look at the numbers...
118 76 243 118 42
We haven't seen the 243 or 24 3 or 2 43 yet have we? 118 76 42, yes.
Edit: oops, posted at about the same time!
Edit 2: Thanks, Catherwood - coming from you, that means a lot!
Clever code! and Clever, clever tipsila for cracking this one! I spent too much time looking for extra-long words, never thinking about there being "junk dna" strands embedded in them. Thanks!
Now, is there any reason they chose 1187624311842 to put in there? (Possibly reversed as 2481134267811)
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:48 pm
godson2k7
yeah i ended up getting the same thing
*ETA holy crap! I didn't notice that the dummies where numbers backwards! That would have made it much easier on my part lol.
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:47 pm
DelVillan.
Great job, tipsila. That was a pretty naughty trick there.
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:44 pm
tipsila
I found what it says.
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6op 1 libra is a group. they are ex-government officials, scientists and theologians. they appear to be resurfacing.
I noticed that there were numbers written backwards in the code. I took them out and completed the substitution.
ETA: there is also a mistake in the code - four is written fuor once
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:42 pm
godson2k7
So far I've come up with ENO possibly being a set of dummy letters. If I strike that from the cypher I get:
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6XC 1 GAFYL AT L IYXDC. URTHGIEZK LYZ
ZNEVESB-IXJXISZYQOZQU XHOWTHAWALGT, TWAROUFZQUATUT LQE
URZEERHTXGXIALQT. URZK LCCZLY UX FTHGIEZ
YROUFZTDYHLWAOWTQI.
LCCZLY you could come up with APPEAR.
LYZ would be ARE
Also now that ENO is gone it allows 6XC 1 GAFYL to be 6OP 1 LIBRA. Following that you have AT L IYXDC.
Plugging in from what there is so far would give AT IRODP with _RO_P being known. GROUP can plug in here nicely.
So for the first sentence I have 6OP 1 LIBRA AT A GROUP. IS would be the only thing that would fit for AT in what I have come up with. So 6OP 1 LIBRA IS A GROUP. is what I have for a first sentence.
I've plugged in everything following this and I think there are probably more dummy letters somewhere...or I am completely off on this