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Misroi
Emailed x3! Here's my email, and if/when he replies, I'll paste that here as well.

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Hey there, Steve, I've been following Jeff's blog, and was one of the people that helped crack that weird audio file. Everything seems so surreal and X-Filesy. If I were you, I'd keep a close watch over your shoulder; if David Duchovny shows up, RUN.



Seriously though, it's gotta be weird being involved in this directly. I mean, we're removed from the situation, but you and Jeff are stuck in the middle of it. Jeff especially. Poor guy.



He says he doesn't want to take the pill without someone around, and I can understand that. Who knows what the hell that thing could do to him? Still, everything we've gotten so far has told him to take it. I know the source is suspect, I know it's risky as hell, but he's got to take that thing, and from everything we're hearing, it should be sooner rather than later.



I know you can't talk about your work (NDAs and all that), but it does seem odd that Jeff can't remember anything about his work. From the video Jeff posted on the blog, it sounded as though you had some short-term memory loss as well. Is this something that's been going on for awhile? Or am I reading too much into this?



By the way, what's your background? I know you and Jeff are engineers and such, but I know that's a huge field. Again, I know you can't go into specifics, but I'm just curious what your area of expertise is. (Good job on that cleaned-up audio file, by the way; much better than what I threw together.)



Stay safe, Steve!



-Stephan


His reply:

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Stephan,



Thanks for the help with that video. It is important to have people helping us who are outside the situation. Being directly involved is so surreal, like being in a dream. We are both so consumed by the "Is this really happening?" feeling that thinking is next to impossible.



I agree that Jeff needs to take the pill, he has nothing to lose. He is coming to my house tonight to do so. I'm sure he's still dragging around his screwed up camera so we'll probably video tape the event.



Regarding my work….. I wish a Non-Disclosure Agreement was the only thing keeping me quiet. Jeff does have significant short-term memory loss, but it seems to be limited to work related events. His memory over the past week seems fine since he is no longer working on the project.



My background is aeronautical engineering and mathematics.



Again, we both appreciate all the assistance.



Steve

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:38 am
miki_38x1
I just sent him a very generic email saying who I was and if he could tell me anything that could help me find out better what's happening to Jeff. It's better to be safe than sorry, and if you think Steve might be on the opposing side, then don't include that much info. And I'm sure Jeff has already told Steve all of the stuff you mentioned anyway.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:37 am
nextday
This is what I wrote:
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Hey Steve,

How has Jeff been over the last few days? Have you seen him since he got out of the hospital? I hope you both are doing well especially since we found out that you may be exposed to nuclear waste. I do not know how much Jeff has told you about what we have found out, but that name that you heard on the message you cleared up, Duane Arnold, is the name of a power plant that you guys live near. Did you and Jeff work there? Or close to that plant? We think it may be part of the reason why Jeff is sick. Therefore we believe that he should take the pill as soon as possible. He wont take it unless someone is around him to help just in case something may happen. Please go see him asap so he can take that pill. Let us know what happens!

Also Jeff said he was going to post a few things that may help us figure out more things about what is going on with him. If you could remind him about all that especially since he is having a problem remembering things lately. That would be great!


Only problem I thought of was we do not know much about Steve, just that we assume he is a friend of Jeff. What if by telling him all this we are helping out the other side? Wouldn't it be really easy to tell a person who can not remember things well that they work together often when they really have never met?

So with that thought in my head I have not sent the email yet. I don't know maybe I am too paranoid for his own good. What do you guys think? Should I send it or not? Or should I take some information out just in case?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:33 am
miki_38x1
I just emailed Steve as well. Although I got a strange message about accepting mail from my IP address, so I had to send it using my phone's wireless service. Why would my IP address be blocked?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:09 am
nextday
Jeff posted Steve's email on his blog. I am writing an email to him right now... Anybody have anything they want me to ask specifically?

I will post it when I am done.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:03 am
Will 2.0
Short chat.

nobuofanXIII (7:47:15 PM): Hey jeff
TidusIA (7:47:28 PM): Hey hows it going?
nobuofanXIII (7:47:31 PM): Well
nobuofanXIII (7:47:33 PM): About to leave out
nobuofanXIII (7:47:39 PM): Just wanted to see how you were feeling?
TidusIA (7:47:55 PM): still sick
TidusIA (7:48:01 PM): i want to take the pill when people are around me
TidusIA (7:48:07 PM): everybody has been busy
TidusIA (7:48:13 PM): i am moving from my apartment though
TidusIA (7:48:20 PM): so i am happier
nobuofanXIII (7:48:39 PM): Further away from the plant?
nobuofanXIII (7:48:44 PM): Take that pill dude!
TidusIA (7:48:58 PM): i dont want to take it when im alone...
nobuofanXIII (7:50:06 PM): Anyone coming soon?
TidusIA (7:50:27 PM): i hope tomorrow. ive been really busy though. so have my friends....i guess
nobuofanXIII (7:51:19 PM): You alright dude?
TidusIA (7:51:45 PM): im ok for now. everything is fuzzy..but im ok
nobuofanXIII (7:51:57 PM): Good good.
TidusIA (7:52:00 PM): i apologize for no videos....i havent been shooting. just sleeping a lot
nobuofanXIII (7:52:04 PM): No problem.
TidusIA (7:52:11 PM): i know you guys want to help
nobuofanXIII (7:52:14 PM): We do.
TidusIA (7:52:16 PM): i need to start opening up
TidusIA (7:52:18 PM): and i will
nobuofanXIII (7:52:18 PM): Thank you.
nobuofanXIII (7:52:22 PM): I'll let them know
TidusIA (7:52:29 PM): thank you
nobuofanXIII (7:52:28 PM): I have to head out now, prolly for the night.
TidusIA (7:52:33 PM): alright
TidusIA (7:52:35 PM): have fun
nobuofanXIII (7:52:38 PM): You too.
nobuofanXIII (7:52:43 PM): Later!
TidusIA (7:52:46 PM): night
TidusIA signed off at 7:52:55 PM.
tidusia is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:54 pm
feriwiccan
Well hopefully that medicine might help to jog his memory a bit. Though I still am unsure about whether or not it will be beneficial in the long run Neutral Looks like we just have to wait.

Also, Misroi, my bad Embarassed ! Yeah, it is IL, but I doubt that the map would be reversed only because it fits Iowa so well this way.

Just noticed a double-letter again in the latest blog entry:
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Wish mee luck.Please, let me know if anything else shows up.


I'm starting to think that we're overlooking these letters. I think I might go back and look at the chat logs to figure out exactly how many of each there are. It'll at least give me something to do Smile

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:53 pm
miki_38x1
Yeah, that would be just 10,000 different kinds of bad. It doesn't help that Jeff has no recollection of what goes on at his job either. He's the only one that could shed some more light on this mysterious project for the DoD.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:45 pm
Doug52392
miki_38x1 wrote:
Oh yeah, 26 miles is plenty far from the plant itself to be safe from any type of radiation in that aspect, especially with the safety precautions that nuclear reactors take to keep the radiation in check. However, if the plant were improperly disposing of its waste, like putting it in the woods for lack of room in the cooling chambers that radioactive waste is supposed to be in, Jeff would be in a good bit of danger. So would all of the people in that area.
What I think may be happening is that the place Jeff works for may be illegally obtaining the uranium, which is easily weapons-grade, from the plant, and all of the workers may be exposed to it if his work doesn't have the facilities in which to store it.
We better hope that does not turn out to be true! If they are getting uranium illegally from the plant, the plant's owners might try to kill him when he goes down there. They know how illegal it is and want to cover their own asses, so they might take him out, I have not heard from him in a few days either.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:39 pm
miki_38x1
Oh yeah, 26 miles is plenty far from the plant itself to be safe from any type of radiation in that aspect, especially with the safety precautions that nuclear reactors take to keep the radiation in check. However, if the plant were improperly disposing of its waste, like putting it in the woods for lack of room in the cooling chambers that radioactive waste is supposed to be in, Jeff would be in a good bit of danger. So would all of the people in that area.
What I think may be happening is that the place Jeff works for may be illegally obtaining the uranium, which is easily weapons-grade, from the plant, and all of the workers may be exposed to it if his work doesn't have the facilities in which to store it.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:33 pm
Misroi
It's not just him; Steve kinda said the same thing. From the Package video:

10:15 Jeff "So I was talking yesterday to some people online and they asked me about my job. I couldn't really tell them anything because I said, you know, whenever I go home I don't really think about the job. But in actuality I can't remember, I can't remember last Friday. And I was going to write down what - what I remembered from my job today. I mean I just got back a couple hours ago and I honestly cannot remember anything."

10:51 Steve "All I remember is that you did not look good in that meeting today."

Something weird affecting their memories? Steve gets $800 from a guy who wants him to give a strange package to a friend, and he can't recall ANYTHING about the guy? He's either in on it, or there is no other guy, or Steve's being affected by it too.

The overhanging part of the Iowa map would not be in MO, it'd be in IL, apparently around the Peoria area. One other thing I thought of is that it might not say 'NO', but 'ON.' Perhaps we've got it oriented the wrong way?

Also, Amana is a 26 mile journey to the power plant, so while I won't discount radiation sickness or something like that, that seems to be a fairly safe distance to someone who has no experience with nuclear physics. Very Happy

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:29 am
nextday
Something I find very odd

He always says he is going to do something and then never gets around to it. For example, he has never posted his throw up pictures or the video of him taking the pill. Jeff did mention that he might need to make a new website so maybe we need to find that? He did say he has a hard time remembering things but I thought it was only work-related...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:55 am
faeryqueen21
The woods were outside his apartment, and according to what he said, his apartment is in Amana. Hope that helps!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:06 pm
feriwiccan
Bang Head Aww, start playing in a percussion ensemble and you miss so much!

So what now, do we wait? So far the letters that have been repeated are: A, T, and E. Maybe he's trying to spell something out for us?

Lol, this is starting to remind me a LOT of Myst, where you get a bunch of clues and have to figure out what the right thing to do at the end is: the red book or the blue book? To take the pill or not take the pill?

On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duane_Arnold_Energy_Center, the geographic coordinates of the plant are listed. Using Googlemaps, I pinpointed the location and used printscreen. I tried overlapping it with the map Jeff got, but it was sort of a stretch to get the point to line up with anything.

Something else about the map: if it IS Iowa (which I now think it is), the "NO" on the bottom right would technically be in Missouri. Iowa doesn't jut out like that.

Someone needs to ask Jeff where those woods were. The woods in the original footage. I just realized that pinpointing that location could show us a little about the surrounding stuff (or possibly how close he was to the plant).
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:44 pm
faeryqueen21
Misroi wrote:
Good to hear he's taking the pill, otherwise this could have been a VERY short game!


I was thinking the same thing!!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:52 pm
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