[Areia]

I suggested the chords idea a while back (page 22), and someone who sounded like they knew what they were talking about (feriwiccan) said they couldn't be, because: "There are no "8"s (EVER) and rarely are there "4"s. "

We have all these clues, I can't believe we're not getting this...

[natas]

if it does have to do with chord structure... I would be even farther lost lol.

[historys_past]

Clearly "Make the best of what's around" and "play on" are supposed to be clues - any ideas?

The quick google search I did came up with a Dave Matthews song, but i'm fairly sure that's NOT the solution.

Though, I suppose the password we can't break MIGHT have something to do with chord structure (E,A,D with numbers). They do come in 4- "chord" blocks, could this be a song?

[miki_38x1]

But phi doesn't sound like "O." The only constant I can think of off the top of my head that does is rho. It represent density or the radius in spherical coordinates.

EDIT: There's also some new stuff in the bullerman source code...

Quote:

JB, its not that hard. have you lost your touch? I thought you were with us. log into the mail exchange already! L = 72.92970606 (dont forget the 0) P E4A6D8A4D6E8D5E6A8A4D6E8, play on JB, play on. "make the best of whats around"

Okay, so L=login, P=password, which leads the login to be maybe epiepi0 (as in e*pi*e*pi+0), and the password is the unbreakable code. I don't have time to do all this now (Xmas shopping nightmare), but someone else should?

[Areia]

I agree - although the 0 in the text is a zero, not the letter 'O'.

Unless... maybe the 0 is a symbol that looks like a zero, like sigma, or phi. I can't see a link between Euler and sigma, but there's 'Euler's totient', aka 'Euler's phi function'.

Plus phi is another mathematically significant number, the golden ratio = 1.61803399

[miki_38x1]

Well I'm not sure about the password, but "I sine Leo" could mean i*sin(e), or i*sin(something to do with Euler).

[natas]

Login aside. Jeff said his friend SNIder, used to sing old macdonald using math symbols. so if we follow this.... and the clue from bullerman.net (don't forget the o) the password SHOULD be e,pi,e,pi,o right? if that is so, we just need the right login.

[Areia]

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Does that mean the password is eight characters?

Very possible. Although assuming this was done on purpose, there's a space after the equals sign, so if he's being consistent, there ought to be one before, which would make the password 7 characters.

But as you said, even if we get the password right, may not know until we're certain of the login.

EDIT: Never mind, I was mis-counting. It's 9 spaces, so 8 plus a space before the equals sign.

[natas]

Another quick note if you "select all" on the bullerman.net site.... you will see eight spaces before = 72.92970606 (dont forget the 0) was that on purpose?
Does that mean the password is eight characters? Heck, we don't even know the login yet lol.

[Sylvia]

gonna throw one more thing in then I got to run.

example e*pi*e*pi can be written like this (e^2)*(pi^2) so if we continue like that and bring in the 0 we have this:

((e^2) * (pi^2))^0 = 1

because anything to the power of 0 equals 1

haven't tried any of this in the password. if you guys have time maybe 1 is the answer.

[natas]

I do that a LOT also sylvia don't feel alone.
Some things worth mentioning (probably red herrings)
Euler's IDENTITY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%27s_identity
Steve's email to me : I vow you slow chest death. I sine Leo.
mystery video images : large e, pi, gamma notation???, weird face????
Steve's unbreakable code : E4A6D8A4D6E8D5E6A8A4D6E8
previous passwords : e (271) e,pi (271314)

[Areia]

Oh don't worry - I didn't read anything into that. Sorry if it sounded like I did. Just agreeing with you.

There are just too many clues right now, they all look like they should fit together, but I don't see how they do, or how they relate to the mail page login.

[Sylvia]

Areia, I didn't mean for that to sound like you took it. I was just getting my thoughts down. Kind of like talking to myself. My notes are such a mess that I can't make heads nor tails of them. So, I post things that I don't want to lose in that mess.

and I agree "play on" what does he mean?? more questions and I got to run, don't have time to think about it like I want. See you guys later tonight.

Good luck. Hope someone breaks that password.

[Areia]

Sylvia wrote:

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Well if e * pi * e * pi=72.92970606 and we continue to multiply by 0 then: e * pi * e * pi * 0= 0

I know - multiplying by 0 completely negates the previous clues. Not much point going through all that just to have the answer be 0. So maybe we need to add 0 to the end of the answer? Or somewhere else? I'm really stumped.

There's the "play on" comment as well. May just be friendly banter, but with the repetition I'm inclined to think there's a clue there too.

Oh yes, and Steve's code. That's been on a piece of paper on my desk for days, and it still makes no sense.

[natas]

Re: Steve' code