Thanks for that faeryqueen. I had forgotten since I can no longer watch that video. Which gets me to thinking I need to get videos on the wiki so we don't lose what we do have. Man. my head hurts.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:35 pm
faeryqueen21
I hate to burst anyones bubble with this reminder, but we HAVE seen Steve in a video. It was an early video that is no longer available where Steve gives Jeff the envelope with the first pill. So I think he is a separate person from Jeff. If memory serves I also don't think that the "Steve" from the video is the same as the "Steve" in the obit picture. So this could mean that the Steve Jeff knows is a fake. He may be assuming the identity of a dead guy. He disappeared around the time we found the obit because his identity had been compromised. This is of course spec on my part, and it doesn't explain how Steve's brother slipped that he was still alive. Unless he is in on the whole thing. Which, if he's texting from Dan's phone, he probably is. I dunno. So many pieces and none seem to fit.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:31 pm
natas
Wow, now if this story takes on this twist, it will definitely be interesting. I can't wait for Jeff to contact us again. I'm leaving my AIM on to see if he pops in so I can chat. we'll see. I'm going to have to re-read all my notes and see if I can start piecing all of this together where it makes sense. Plus, I need to update the wiki also. I'm falling behind cuz I'm lazy.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:27 pm
Lunsford
Oh and sorry for the double post but hey back to you Natas... Thanks for the help
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:22 pm
Lunsford
so maybe Steve is Jeff in some whacked out way. He is sending us "keys" or hints, whichever suits it at that time... Steve could be trapped inside Jeff. I mean the poor guy can't remember anything (which is the profile of "double personalities" . And it says that Steve is *dead* (for the most part?) Now, Old McDonald guy is somehow connected. That is certain from the "grayed" image in the obituary.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:21 pm
natas
I never confirmed if it was Dan. It was Dan's phone... i asked him "Is this Dan or Steve?" He replied "I am steves brother. U know him? I must go. I have said too much" word for word reply. I still have the text messages.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:15 pm
Lunsford
Yeah it seems like a slip to me... I just thought it would be a fresh look on things...
If Dan is the true brother of Steve, woudn't he know that he is dead and we can't KNOW him..??
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:09 pm
natas
When I was texting with Steve's brother on Dan's phone, he asked if i KNOW Steve, not KNEW. I wonder if that was on accidental Freudian slip or what? I'm afraid to try to contact him again though. he told me to wait until he contacted me.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:09 pm
Lunsford
Doug52392 wrote:
One thing that is strange though, if Steve is Jeff, who was the obituary for?
sorry Doug.. did an edit to my post
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:08 pm
Doug52392
One thing that is strange though, if Steve is Jeff, who was the obituary for?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:07 pm
Lunsford
natas wrote:
Hello again Lunsford. That is a new and refreshing idea. (a lot better than my - "anagram everything" posts lol) How did you come to that?
EDIT: Thanks Doug. Very Intersting. Also it would explain why we NEVER saw Steve in the videos.
Probably because I watch WAY toooo many scary movies.. or the fact that I am completely absorbed by any kind of psycological phenom.... It just seems like that's what is happening by deductive reasoning
I mean the guy is *dead* in all physical aspects..
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:06 pm
natas
Hello again Lunsford. That is a new and refreshing idea. (a lot better than my - "anagram everything" posts lol) How did you come to that?
EDIT: Thanks Doug. Very Intersting. Also it would explain why we NEVER saw Steve in the videos.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:59 pm
Doug52392
Lunsford wrote:
what if Steve's been "fused" somehow with Jeff. and they don't know it?
There are some paranormal phenomenon known to cause a person who is dead to fuse with someone living. There is also medical causes for such things, like DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder), a psychological disorder that causes someone to develop a different personality), and several conditions caused by envitro-fertilization surgery (due to the high cost of the surgery, it's common to put 2 fertilized eggs in a woman, for a higher chance of pregnancy. If both develop and one dies, it can cause the 2 developing babies to "fuse", smiler to DID. It was on House once) There is also a disorder called schizophrenia, which causes paranoid or bizarre delusions or disorganized speech and thinking in the context of significant social or occupational dysfunction. (I don't know if it's related, but disorganized speech could explain Jeff's tendceny to add extra letters to words). I'm just putting ideas out here, seeing as we are stuck (again lol)
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:58 pm
Lunsford
what if Steve's been "fused" somehow with Jeff. and they don't know it?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:46 pm
natas
In Steve's second to last email to me it said :
a theta torn
I miss to reap
the second line anagrams to "is a imposter" I haven't figured the first yet.
Probably nothing... just stuck right now and am bored.
