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Typoxic
Replace "pyramids" with "triangles" and you have RATS.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:32 am
dashcat
So we missed the obvious and we are over thinking. I am throwing up my hands on this. If we go by the example of One Ring then the next is Two Arches (?) then Three Pyramids and finally Four Squares (or maybe boxes).

One Ring was supposed to lead us to LotR and the Ring Poem. What are the other three leading us to?

2 Arches could be MaDonalds Laughing

3 Pyramids could be Giza

4 Squares. One more meal than most of us eat in a day

Maybe we just read down and the answer is RAPS.

I give. Maybe I'll just lurk here.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:29 am
Typoxic
miki_38x1 wrote:
Typoxic wrote:
I'm tempted to go find some Mensa members and see what they think. I mean, all they do is puzzles, right?

Hahahahaha I'm in Mensa. I'm not sure I can help though, as my membership definitely doesn't come with the guarantee that I can solve any puzzle that gets thrown my way. Smile
*goes back to lurking*

I'm pretty sure if you get enough Mensa members together, they can solve any puzzle. We just need more fresh perspectives from puzzle-solvey types.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:00 am
Sylvia
Some more interesting links about king Solomon:

The Temple and The Demons

This is interesting, although it's based on an RPG called In Nomine, One Ring to Rule Them All

This is a google search: with one ring Solomon commanded them sealing his own fate the executed one

ETA:
mort wrote:
Same goes for the square on MSG4. Our only hint so far is that it probably has to do with an anagram. Unless there's some sort of box or chest that the Duke of Manchester/FreeMasons are known for.

The main symbols for the Masons, that I know of, is the compass and the square.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:30 am
Sylvia
mort wrote:
MSG2, our first solve, didn't fall into place until we recognized what the numbers referred to. Unless we're still missing something, the ^2 didn't really play a part.
True unless it has something to do with two crowns.

mort wrote:
When Ethan mentioned John Dee, it seemed to be a good indication of what might tie the 0701 puzzles together...but Dee dabbled in lots of things, so we still have to narrow down the possibilities.

that's what scares me, all that John Dee stuff and the Enochian stuff is way over my head. Looking at the imagery and understanding it is two different things. But maybe we don't have to understand it, just how it might be related to our puzzles.

So, let me see if I'm understanding this correctly:

1) One Ring to rule them all, One ring to bring them all and bind them.
2) The wise king commanded only three. (If the wise king here refers to Solomon, that may explain the ^2, since Solomon ask for wisdom instead of riches he was given both.???)
3) God/Enlil, King/Ahasuerus, Commander/W.Wallace (or three levels of power.)
4) not sure yet

I'm just trying to make sense of this and trying to figure out how we are suppose to come up with a name from of all this since that is what WCF seems the most interested in.

As for the Scarpelli Library, I couldn't find much info about it online. But I did notice that the numbers from Ethan's email that said:
Quote:
Scarpelli Annex 34.16.07.110 document

the 34.16.07.110 looked like an IP address. I did a whois on it and it comes back to the miltary DoD NCI namely

OrgName: Halliburton Company
OrgID: HALLIB-1
Address: 10200 Bellaire Blvd
City: Houston
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 77072-5299
Country: US

I know, that's just way off topic.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:07 am
miki_38x1
Typoxic wrote:
I'm tempted to go find some Mensa members and see what they think. I mean, all they do is puzzles, right?


Hahahahaha I'm in Mensa. I'm not sure I can help though, as my membership definitely doesn't come with the guarantee that I can solve any puzzle that gets thrown my way. Smile
*goes back to lurking*

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:03 am
Typoxic
I'm tempted to go find some Mensa members and see what they think. I mean, all they do is puzzles, right?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:55 am
mortality
There are plainly two layers to the 0701 puzzles. 1st is the puzzle itself. MSG1 and MSG2 both had clear solves, we only had to figure out the underpinning logic/references and apply it. 2nd is how the puzzles relate to each other.

MSG2, our first solve, didn't fall into place until we recognized what the numbers referred to. Unless we're still missing something, the ^2 didn't really play a part.

MSG1, we had to identify what the message was (poem, the easy part), who wrote it, which one it was, and how it was encoded. (1) was possibly a very subtle hint as to where we needed to look.

We still have to figure out what the solutions to MSG3 and MSG4 will look like. On its face, the /3\ only references the triangle framing the names.

Same goes for the square on MSG4. Our only hint so far is that it probably has to do with an anagram. Unless there's some sort of box or chest that the Duke of Manchester/FreeMasons are known for.

When Ethan mentioned John Dee, it seemed to be a good indication of what might tie the 0701 puzzles together...but Dee dabbled in lots of things, so we still have to narrow down the possibilities.

Re D'Medici: Ethan told us the Scarpelli Library originated during the Medici reign.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:18 am
Sylvia
Ethan updated his blog

http://ethangrant.wordpress.com/
http://ethangrant.wordpress.com/2008/01/05/with-a-week-like-that/

After reading this, I wonder if we are over thinking this, could it be something as simple as:

One Ring
Two Carets/Carats/Carrots/Crowns/???
Three Angles/Angels/???
Four Squares/Sides/???

is it possible from that we can get an overall solution.
Code:
0^^<<<####


or one letter comes from Ring
two come from Carets/...
three come from Angles/...
four come from Square/...

something like the puzzle that says my first is in ring, my second is in caret, my third is in angle and my fourth is in square


Just throwing some stuff around. Getting it down before I forget and so others might see something.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:52 am
Sylvia
I sent a copy of the diagram I made by combining the 4 messages to Ethan to see what he thought about it. I noticed this in his status window.
Quote:
More intrigue than a d'Medici femily reunion.


google search link for research: d'Medici

.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:26 pm
dashcat
oops Embarassed

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:06 pm
mortality
Jade was standing north of the ash outline facing south.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:26 pm
dashcat
From Jade's video, he stressed a few times that he was facing north. The short leg of the checkmark was on the left which would be west. We haven't seen the second one so we can only speculate on that.

About the coded messages. The number/letter ones look like Hex but don't translate to anything. I tried finding the symbols that were produced (when I put it thru a hex decoder) on the ascii table but that didn't lead anywhere either. I thought it might be a digraph cipher. You can convert the numbers to letters beginning with 0=A and group them in pairs. It would look like this:

92 B3 02 E7 C7 B2 A4 03 89 0c Converted it would look like this:
JC BD AC EH CH BC AE AD IJ AC.

I ran that thru a digraph applet but still no results. It seems that this is probably a double or triple coded message but I am probably wrong. I am pretty weak on solving codes.

The messages that are all letters look like vigenere to me but I don't know what to use as a keyword.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:22 pm
Sylvia
I agree with yellowcard on this one. There are too many similarities for it to be different. I can write 10 different ways in a single day depending on what I'm writing it with and how important neatness and style is to me a the moment. Besides analyzing the handwriting gets us no where. So please stop bringing it up because it's distracting from what we should be concentrating on.

Edit to add: I also got the impression that the angels in St. Pete were not trying to make a triangle but something like the following. But it wouldn't make much sense like this.
Code:

north

/|61st & pine
 |                  east
/|12th & cherry
 |

south


PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:55 pm
mortality
Take another look at the letter 'h's. The exaggeration of the curve varies. Some are significantly flatter than others. The height of the vertical also changes.

On the 'p's, the top of the curve varies in how it meets the vertical line.

The top of the 'c's are completed in varying manners.

Only two of the 'W's look alike. It's not just the last one that uses a rounded, more lower-case look. One of the blockier 'W's uses lines that are all of even height. The other two 'W's are much more irregular.

The relative heights of the letters also varies.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:19 pm
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