[mortality]

Something like that. Ethan'd probably say I'm seeing patterns where none exist, tho. But he and Jade have given us clues that they shouldn't have known about before, too. Lord of the Rings and Hobbits, anyone?

Philly's skype username is ramback, duh. Full name lists initials P.M.

Can't believe I missed that first time around.

Capno's full name on Skype: smoke. Just so there's no doubt.

ETA: so is capnomantrix a female version of Mulder's smoking X-Files nemesis?

And should we instead ask how we can find/contact Slider, as Jade seems to be suggesting?

[Sylvia]

very good Mort. so our pass code for Capnomantrix is Wisteria. Or at least that sounds like what Ethan is telling us.

ETA: Way to go mort. (see his post below)

ramback on skype

[mortality]

Petra probably meant Philly called Capnomantrix a delphi, as in the oracle. Entirely possible that Slider catnapped the feline and left it for the neighbor to find, and therefore, as Jade suggested, Slider's playing Capnomantrix. If we want to be more credulous, then Capnomantrix really is some kind of psychic.

The Delphi Oracles were affiliated with Apollo and breathed in sulfurous, volcanic fumes or some kind of hallucinogenic smoke to have their visions. The prophecies were affiliated with madness, so it's entirely plausible this person is just delusional. Any other affiliations with smoke? What about smokey djinn and magic lamps?

Can we figure out the logical order for the passwords without reaching Slider or Philly? Are midnight blue and salmon known to be affiliated with the Oracle? Is there a third color? Pythian colors are yellow, red and blue, but that might refer to the modern Knights of Pythias society, not the Oracle. If those are the colors, then is a shade of yellow, like marigold, next?

We done with Petra? Anything else to ask, like if anything else went missing before/around when the cat did? Just let her know she's been very helpful and if/when we find out what happened to Philly, we'll let her know?

The thing about BE's identity: if Ethan really doesn't want us associating the two of them, then a denial means nothing. The only answer from Ethan that settles it is "yes, I am BE."

Ethan's post did reference lampblack, a kind of soot found in the pigment used for matches. Wisteria is a vine that grows purple flowers. I don't see a relationship between it and lampblack.

Lampblack could be a hint towards Capnomantrix. Wisteria being the hue we need to mention?

If that's so, then the question becomes: what question should the Oracle answer? "What happened to Philly Markovich?" or "What happened to Ramback?"

[Sylvia]

sounds good.

I updated Brighton Early with our new info:

Sylvia to Bright wrote:

B, Not sure you if you still want me to share info with you or not. But to be on the safe side this is what I have managed to find out. Our man Philly's real name is Phillip Markovich. His email is ramback at gmail dot com. He used Skype to contact Our Lady of Smoke. I managed to get a partial screen name for her: capno?trix. There's a female from Switzerland with the screen name capnomantrix but for some reason that just doesn't seem right. I'll have to get back to you on that one. Nothing new on Philly's friend Slider. S. ps. Could you send me a heads up (yes) or heads down (no) to let me know if you want me to continue sending these updates. I don't want to waste your time or mine if I shouldn't be.

ETA: Today, Jan. 16, at about 5:00 pm EST, I sent a follow up email to Brighton Early with the new info mort discovered beginning here: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22276&start=600

Sylvia to BE wrote:

B, here's a little more info. it turns out capnomantrix is "Our Lady of Smoke" on Skype and Philly is also on Skype screen name ramback. Still no info on Slider. S

[yellowcard]

I went ahead and did it. I sent a generic email to Ethan and then included this "nonsensical" post script:

Quote:

P.S. The unCollective has decided that the sun must shine on you bright and early in the morning.

If it's him, he'll know. If it's not, he won't.

[Sylvia]

Ethan updated his blog

[Sylvia]

I must agree with yellowcard that BE is Ethan. It's takes to long to post all my proof so I will just link to my reasoning:

first from the chat here between mort and Ethan
then from this post on Ethan's blog and the comments on it.
then Ethan's email here to dashcat, which explains why BE thought yellowcard already knew the location.
then from this post on Ethan's blog on Jan. 9

Ethan wrote:

Posting this here real quick since my RSA token is in the car and I can't VPN to the Foundation without it. But I didn't want to forget so…

I don't know what kind of RSA he has, but I would bet the farm on it that his geological location could be tracked if he used it.

Anyways, I think if you guys read those you will come to the same conclusion. And I think it's best we don't directly mention this on Ethan's blog or Whitechapel, it might cost Ethan his job. After all they thought he was "up in Dayton," on assignment. But since Ethan lives and works from his Knoxville home, WCF has no proof of where he actually went. I'm sure someone is going to dispute this and show me where I'm totally wrong. But, this is the way I see it.

I think it would be ok to post a hint to let him know we got IT, though. Like in the comments post something like. man I got up Early this morning and the sun was shining On me so Bright . Just a thought.

[petunia]

realitynow summarizings

[Rogi Ocnorb]

All I can think of for his name is that it (almost) anagrams to "macabre".

As for OLoS... Here's a list of *trix words that may spark something.

[mortality]

Jade's take on Petra's reply (the one where she first mentioned Philly):

Quote:

Dammit, dude, open up is right. Sounds like she needed someone to talk to. Guy sounds like a real dipshi...uh, not sure how you feel about colourful language (Mad Lib it as you like). So she doesn't even know where the punk lived? Anyone got a line on Mr. Slider yet? (100 to 1 he was the mystery "Trix" behind the curtain - what a bunch of little twits.) More soon, Jade

Zip on tracking down Philly or *trix , yet. Working on it. Spokeo was useless.

ETA: creating a skype account, since that's obviously the next step to find OLoS. Philly might outright be a bust, but I will keep looking.

name we might be looking for: capnomatrix/ capnomantrix

Found a capnomantrix in Switzerland (female) on Skype. How do we want to approach her?

[Sylvia]

email from Petra

[yellowcard]

petunia wrote:

yellowcard raises an interesting point. BE assumed we knew where r3 took place, but we really didn't. Even if we'd bet the farm on Casa's or yellow's maps, we still would've been off by a few blocks. No way would we have guessed 47th & 14th. This makes me think that BE is NOT Ethan.

I'm beginning to think horseshoes and hand grenades on this one.

Assuming Ethan is BE:

Ethan's hands are tied by his superiors.

Ethan soooooo wanted to go to Tampa.

Ethan is otherwise pretty much his own boss there in Knoxville. He comes and goes as he pleases to check out leads for supernatural events.

We gave Ethan a map of what we thought may be the next location, which he seems to think was going in the right direction.

Ethan came up with a trip out-of-town. Dayton? Yeah, sure. It makes a great cover for being out-of-pocket for a little while, even if it does happen to be at the same time as the new moon.

Jade really can't say anything as Jade, either. He's Ethan friend from the past and anything he says can be viewed suspiciously by Ethan's superiors.

Who is going to post this event in semi-cryptic form on a blog, with this much detail, with a statement that they don't want to collaborate, yet still refer to "E.G." and says that he shouldn't be told? Any other outside looking at the WF website and taking such actions would help as much as possible -- unless he didn't want to be found.

And that's why I think Ethan is BE. Or maybe Jade working with Ethan.


1.85 miles was derived from the golden ratio (3.00/GR=1.85) as to get the distance of the shorter arm of the 2:00 figure. we never concluded for certain that it was the golden ratio, but if it wasn't, it was incidentally close. The angle was off by a smidgen, but over 1.85 miles, one block or so isn't really that far off.

Uh, horseshoes and hand grenades... and nuclear warfare.

edited from Nashville to Knoxville.. why can't I be normal?

[petunia]

Typoxic wrote:

So it's safe to say RN isn't the culprit in the apparent abduction. To me, it looks most like the people in the van were with the guy performing the ritual (Philly?) and when shit went south they scooped him up. This estimation seems so likely to me that I'm voting we go ahead and tell Ethan about BE and his findings, if no one has already. I really don't think they're the same person; what possible motivation could Ethan have to screw with us like that? It doesn't accomplish anything for him.

I dunno. Where was the van at the beginning of the vid? They could have dropped him off and been waiting off to the side, but couldn't BE have seen that? I can't decide what happened here, honestly.

Reasons not to tell Ethan (yet):
He will be obligated to tell his bosses, who will freak and shut down OC:0702.
It could cause RN (among others?) to focus on him, for better or worse, possibly putting him in some kind of jeopardy.

If BE is Ethan, he'd be doing it not to screw with us, but to provide us with information outside of official WCF channels which, as we've seen, can be a little sensitive. Patel and Kennedy don't seem to want to get into anything truly inexplicable or dangerous, and any hint of that in the past has made them nervous and caused talk of shutting down the project. Ethan doesn't seem to want that, but as a WCF agent his reach is limited.

However, BE's comments don't necessarily fit with that theory (I'll have to reread them). It also brings up the question of how Ethan shot the video if he was supposed to be in/en route to Ohio at the time (or if someone else shot it for him). It is a nice theory though, since we have several different entities/groups all of a sudden and it would be nice to reduce the number.

Re: the matchbook: I think this has been mentioned before, but just in case - it appears that none of he matches have been used.

yellowcard raises an interesting point. BE assumed we knew where r3 took place, but we really didn't. Even if we'd bet the farm on Casa's or yellow's maps, we still would've been off by a few blocks. No way would we have guessed 47th & 14th. This makes me think that BE is NOT Ethan.

[Sylvia]

Typoxic, you make some good points. But regardless if BE is or is not Ethan, I don't think we should tell him because on a meta level I'm afraid it will mess up the game. I think when the time is right to tell him, we will know. Just my 2 cents.

[Typoxic]

So it's safe to say RN isn't the culprit in the apparent abduction. To me, it looks most like the people in the van were with the guy performing the ritual (Philly?) and when shit went south they scooped him up. This estimation seems so likely to me that I'm voting we go ahead and tell Ethan about BE and his findings, if no one has already. I really don't think they're the same person; what possible motivation could Ethan have to screw with us like that? It doesn't accomplish anything for him.

The other possibility about why Philly had the matchbook in his hand is that he was worried. She said it was like a good luck charm - maybe he was holding it like some people might hold a rosary or rabbit's foot.