[Sylvia]

Ethan said this:

Ethan to Petunia wrote:

The Foundation is still interested in the origin of the Scarpelli document, but we have no interest in the events that have occurred in St. Pete. The Foundation has made it clear that I (along with any other Foundation employee or asset) am to have absolutely nothing to do with any investigation into the events in St. Pete.

That's doesn't mean that we can't investigate what happened. And in the process if we find the source of the document we will pass it on to them. Otherwise, they just stepped on the brakes again and I don't really have any interest in searching for the source of that piece of paper. So I will continue to play the BE, Spearmint, Petra, Capnomantrix and Ramback side (game jack or not, it sounds more interesting). Otherwise, I'm losing interest and will just find something else to do.

[mortality]

Re: reply from Ethan

[petunia]

NJ scifi club posts re: Nov. 12

[petunia]

 reply from Ethan

[mortality]

What if he left his computer behind when he left? Maybe there's a nifty little file on it.

dashcat wrote:

Mort we have missed a lot, Ethan keeps telling us how and what to search for. We aren't doing the research they want us to do it seems.

Do you have any examples? The only thing I remember him asking for lately was for us to further investigate the djinn/demon comparison. He hasn't said word 1 about MSG3 or MSG4 in a couple weeks. And he hasn't given us a status update on checking our list against the WF database.

Heck, he hasn't updated the Open Cases page since just after New Year's. The correspondence archives haven't been updated in a week.

[Sylvia]

dashcat wrote:

There must be some way for people to get the daily or weekly password to use with Capno. There must be some kind of organisation involved here and I hope they have a website we can find.

I agree, I tried last night, but I must not have been using the right combination of google terms. Because I come up with nothing. It just makes me think how the secret organizations use to get their secret passwords. Didn't they use stuff like the newspapers or something?

Petra said this:

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Everything I know about Philly isn't much. Met him at a bar one night. He was all serious and quiet. We started going around together. Nice enough guy at first, right, but after a while he starts getting moody sometimes. Doesn't drink or use, but smokes like a chimney. Always meeting people. Always being cool. He didn't have a job as far as I could tell so I figured he was either a trust fund kid or he was selling stuff I didn't ask about. And he was into magic. He was always reading books or looking at strange stuff on his computer. I'm not into it, so he didn't get into it much with me.

I think in there somewhere is the hint to finding where Philly got the secret code of the day/week. May have to email Petra again. And I wish we could get more on Slider.

[dashcat]

Oddly enough I opened a Skype account last Saturday. Capnomantrix has added me as a contact, P.M. Ramback has not.

There must be some way for people to get the daily or weekly password to use with Capno. There must be some kind of organisation involved here and I hope they have a website we can find.

[Typoxic]

Yeah, he can see the video. I linked him to BE's blog and gave him the pass. I'm a little worried he'll tell BE off or something, but then again, what if he does? Oh, well.

Saying we're looking for Ramback might be the best way to introduce ourselves. It's true, and it might get us a hint of some kind. I can't get Skype to work at all (it sticks on "create account" and won't connect). Maybe I wasn't ~meant~ to interact with Cap.

[petunia]

I wouldn't risk it. Doesn't pay to lie to an oracle. But we don't have to say Ramback sent us, we can just say we're looking for him or worried about him or something.

So you told him about BE? He can see the video now?

Anybody have Skype besides Sylvia & Mort?

We may be missing an "intro" conversation between Philly & Capno, or how they met. Could be as simple as dashcat said, we should just say hi. Or maybe there was, dare I say, an initiation of some sort.

We need a UK contact.

[Typoxic]

If I'm right, she'll probably know Ramback didn't send us. It might be worth a shot, though.

[dashcat]

I'm glad you told him Typoxic. Maybe he will become more involved or maybe Whitechapel will drop out. Either way we still have a game.

Mort we have missed a lot, Ethan keeps telling us how and what to search for. We aren't doing the research they want us to do it seems.

If Capno shows up again maybe we should just say Hi or Ramback sent us or ask if she can answer a question for us. I really don't know.

[Typoxic]

I still think Ramback wasn't abducted. It makes sense to do a ritual like that with backup and a getaway car, and they were on the scene immediately, which implies that they were waiting just around the corner. I mean, if something went wrong, you would want help nearby, and either way you wouldn't want undue scrutiny like the police.

I doubt he's dead, although it's possible; I also doubt that he's going to be online any time soon, although that's possible too. He's probably convalescing in someone's basement while his associates try and figure out what to do next.

[Typoxic]

I told Ethan, so it's out there. I left out the name "capnomantrix" just in case there really is a reason to worry about him getting in over his head, but I told him about Petra and the color code.

[Sylvia]

petunia wrote:

I'm starting to think maybe we should just tell him. Maybe a shakeup is just what we need. I dunno.

I agree, what else is there to do? BE isn't giving us anything. I can't figure out the source for where Smoke Lady gets her color of the day secret password. So, if we tell Ethan what all has happened maybe he can help us with that.

So, go for it Petunia. I'm sure you can make him understand that we thought it was in his best interest that we didn't tell him because of what BE said here:

BE wrote:

dashcat Says: January 10, 2008 at 10:07 am Can you tell me why Ethan can't know about this? //Would have thought it was obvious. //Don't know what happened yet. //Two possibilities, maybe more. //They were with him and attempting to help. //Or they abducted him. //If the latter, who were they? Why? //If the latter, they may be interested in others who were involved. //For now, Ethan is only peripherally involved. //What he doesn't know is less likely to hurt him.

Wow, when I looked that up found that BE finally answered Mort's questions;

Quote:

Quote: # Mort Says: January 12, 2008 at 5:26 am Well. Then color me perplexed. What questions should we be asking? So we can spend less time on red herrings: what questions are off limits, and is that temporary or permanent? //Don't have any more information. //If I learn anything useful I'll share it. How did it become acceptable for us to become more involved than Ethan? Are we somehow safer despite being privy to more details than he? //More likely to learn something useful. //Probably. Know anyone who self-indentifies as spearmint? Or any groups that would call themselves objectivists (and not in reference to Ayn Rand)? //No. What other experience do you have with strange phenomena? Do the rituals fit into a larger pattern? //Unknown. Does your group tend to believe more in rational explanations or in supernatural explanations? Ever found a real conspiracy? //na Sorry, just not used to such anonymous…altruism. //np Quote: # Mort Says: January 12, 2008 at 10:27 pm Have you contacted petra_c81SPLATyahoo.com? Do you intend to? Would you prefer we do that? //No. //Undecided. //If you have a way to do so safely. What are your thoughts on "Petra's" (real name appears to be Kelly and she might live in Boca Raton) role in this? //Not enough data to have any thoughts on this.

Obviously BE is not checking his/her email, since I have sent all the details we've gotten about Petra and from Petra.

[petunia]

I really wish we could find Slider.

Jade hasn't had that much time yet to check out the sites. At least he doesn't seem to approach this with that much urgency.

More from Ethan!

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The only thing I know about RN is that I have no idea what they are all about. This spearmint sounds like an angry nut. They appear to be secretive, but at the same time they don't appear to have a clue about some of the stuff they are doing. And now there is this reference to, as you say, a bunch of geeks. I don't get it either. The only common theme I can see is that they talk a lot about stuff that you would normally associate with critical thinking, yet they seem extremely interested in things that touch upon the paranormal. Reminds me of some of the "fringier" types I knew in school. Hey, are you aware of anything potentially dangerous going on with OC:0702? I had heard that there was some kind of lead that you all had, and then earlier today I got a letter from Luke that seemed the hint pretty strongly that something was going on - and it sounded like it was "troubling", for lack of a better word. Should I be concerned? Has something happened that is directly related to this case? Don't mean to put you on the spot or anything, but I haven't heard back from the earlier note.

Oh dear... I'm starting to think maybe we should just tell him. Maybe a shakeup is just what we need. I dunno.