[Typoxic]

Should be. When my ex was in Europe, he was 10 hours ahead of Alaska, and Alaska is three hours behind CST. Sunday's coming up, maybe we can try Salmon then. Unless the color password has something to do with the day of the month; she said it was the 31st.

It seems to me that there must be some way for the guys in the know to get the password when it changes. Maybe a blog is too much to hope for?

[petunia]

Well, Shadow didn't work.

Switzerland is GMT+1, if I'm looking at this right. I'm on CST (GMT-6) so that would put Smoke 7 hours ahead of me, right?

[petunia]

Latest tries from last night: I tried Fuzzy Wuzzy Brown (hee) and Mort tried Turquoise Blue. It was Friday Switzerland time when I tried FWB. No dice.

EDIT:

Sylvia wrote:

Tuesday = Mars (fire) = Red = Torchred (speculation)

That would be a great fit, but Torch Red was changed to Scarlet, so we'd lose the alliteration with the day name there. OTOH Smoke could very well be using the old name.

In addition to planets, there are the Norse gods associated with some of the days... dunno if they have colors to go with them though.
Tuesday = Tyr
Wednesday = Odin
Thursday = Thor
Friday = Freya

Looking at the big color list again, I'm not sure the planet idea really works. Sunglow and Sunset Orange would seem to fit with Sunday much better than Salmon does, for example. OTOH those colors might not be in Smoke's box, if that's what she's using.

[Sylvia]

points of interest

[Sylvia]

I emailed Petra trying to get some help.

Sylvia to Petra wrote:

Petra, I hate to bother you again, but you were so helpful in the past I'm praying you can be once again. Not knowing were else to turn, we felt that I should contact you once more. You remember our smoke lady we talked about. Well, she's not much of a lady, she's a real b., a really big pain in the butt. We have managed to catch her online but when we try to communicate with her she just disconnects. And that stupid ? just keeps haunting us. We were thinking that maybe there is a system she uses. Maybe the pass code changes depending on what day it is when she is online. Is there any chance you might remember what days of the week it was that Philly was in contact with her. For example, maybe the day he used midnight blue was a Monday while salmon might have been a Saturday. Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated. We haven't been able to find Philly, yet. We're concerned that since Philly hasn't been online, maybe he didn't run away. maybe something happened to him. we hope that by speaking to ctrix we can find out the details. Have you heard anything from Slider lately. What kind of places did he usually hang out at, you know, what kind of parties did he like. You said he would always talk to you at the parties. Did he say anything that might help us in any way. Maybe he could help us find Philly. But then again, he could also be missing. I guess you can tell, this has pretty much wore me out. I'm at a loss as to what to write to you about. I guess if you can remember anything that might help us it will be greatly appreciated by all of us. Because we are truly stumped. perplexedly yours, Sylvia

Petra to Sylvia wrote:

Hi Sylvia, Its nice to hear from you again. He still hasn't shown up huh. Doesn't really surprise me though. Haven't seen Slider, but I didn't figure I would I only ever saw him at parties that Philly went to and they weren't with people that I ever knew. I didn't know Slider before I met Philly. Also doesn't really surprise me that you haven't seen him online. He never really mentioned it but I kinda got the feeling that he changed his screen names and stuff all the time. Mystery man I guess. Well I definitely know what day it was that he used salmon with that chick because remember that was the same day he dumped me. It was a sunday cause we were planning to go out to some sports bar to watch a game, it was sunday the 6th. January 6th. I don't know about the other day though. I know it was a couple days before. No wait it was monday cause that was the same day that we got my cat back and I had made a note in my datebook about the cat being missing. It was the last day of December, the 31st. I just checked. I dont see how that could help at all but I hope it does all the same. Its really nice of you to still be trying to figure out whats going on, even if he is a jerk. P

[petunia]

 we has a wiki!

[petunia]

mortality wrote:

So you're thinking something like Midnight Blue = Monday and Salmon = Saturday? Today's Wednesday, so Wisteria or the like?

Although (as Mort pointed out to me in chat) Smoke is in Switzerland, so she's in a completely different time zone from most of us.

If/when we do get the right color, there's a possibility that she may not respond with "anything" like she did with Philly. "Anything" implies that he could ask any question he wanted - maybe we should be prepared for a different response (like "where," "who," "what" for example) and have our questions ready with that in mind.

[mortality]

Petunia tried "tan" and received naught but the now familiar mocking silence.

Jade replied shortly thereafter (coincidence?)

Quote:

Hey, Mort. Been thinking a little more about that the crayon connection. Were those two messages the only communication anyone had with Petra? I think she mentioned that the two times that Philly contacted Smoke were a couple days apart, but did she ever mention to anyone exactly which days they were? I was thinking that if there is a pattern to the colors it could very easily be a rotating-day pattern. Who knows what the pattern could be, though, if there even is one; could be fiendishly crazy or ridiculously easy. Anyway, just brainstorming. More soon, Jade

Quote:

So you're thinking something like Midnight Blue = Monday and Salmon = Saturday? Today's Wednesday, so Wisteria or the like? Our most recent logical stab was that Midnight Blue was mentioned first, Salmon second. Salmon is 10 colors down on Wikipedia's list of Crayola's 120 colors. Tan was the next up in that pattern. No go. We'll check with Petra if she's game for answering more questions. -Mort

[petunia]

And how much later did she disconnect from you?

She's been signing on later than that for me. Around 11PM-midnight Eastern the past two nights, although Sunday it was between 3-4PM.

I heard from SpaceBass, and we're getting a real live bona fide despoiler wiki! He said it should be up later today, and may I say I think he sounds rather pleased.

EDIT: badaim, at "domca" - I can relate! Awhile back I was googling "capnomancer" and found a story written by one Simon Whitechapel... it was most definitely NSFW.

[mortality]

Smoke signed off for Sylvia within a minute of my reply. Signed off for me w/in about 4-5 minutes.

Quote:

[1/21/2008 4:39:08 PM] Smoke says: ? [1/21/2008 4:39:43 PM] Mort Kuolevaisuus says: orchid [1/21/2008 4:39:39 PM] Mort Kuolevaisuus says: smoke is on [1/21/2008 4:40:41 PM] Sylvia says: and just signed off

I think she's been signing on about 20 minutes before 5PM and 20 minutes before 7PM Eastern.

[badaim68]

cadmon

[mortality]

I like the way you're thinking, badaim. I just had that thought, too.

It definitely sounds like either by initials, by anagram, or by both we have a Web site to find in the letters outside the box. Now we just have to figure out the parameters.

If the freemasonry stuff is right, and we aren't working with only initials, maybe we can pull "mason" and "free" out of all those letters. Which leaves dukeonchconfusionagain.

Alternatives: pull out "hiram" or "chiram," although there's no "b" so we can't get "abiff"

FYI: wordpress says there's a protected blog at http://cadmon.wordpress.com
l:p hiram:abiff; chiram:abiff; tubal:cain; and various permutations do not work. (Tried them on the theory that a Masonic password might be a pairing of a significant Masonic name, phrase, or concept.)

I think that's probably OOG.

[badaim68]

MSG4

[petunia]

mortality wrote:

On the wikipedia list of all 120 Crayola colors, Salmon is a jump of 10 colors down on the list from Midnight Blue. Another 10 color jump down from Salmon is Tan. I think I had contacted Sylvia after I guessed Orchid. If you want it verified, I'll check the time on the logs.

I noticed that too, about Tan. Worth a shot. I was confused by the different columns, because the number of colors in between salmon & midnight blue can differ depending on what column you're in. But if you know that the columns are just by year, not what colors are actually in each box (like I was thinking before), then yeah it does make sense. Note that Wisteria is #117, just a couple more 10-color jumps further down.

So you guessed Orchid, and she didn't reply but didn't hang up on you either? Now THAT'S interesting. That'd be great if you could double check.

I requested a wiki on despoiler after people in chat told me it's not that hard to get - apparently all you really have to do is ask nicely. Stay tuned.

[mortality]

On the wikipedia list of all 120 Crayola colors, Salmon is a jump of 10 colors down on the list from Midnight Blue. Another 10 color jump down from Salmon is Tan.

I think I had contacted Sylvia after I guessed Orchid. If you want it verified, I'll check the time on the logs.

We'll hear more from Reality Now on February 6, methinks. Ethan doesn't seem to be taking them seriously, either. I mentioned that initiation is happening a mile away from the WF London office and he completely ignored it.

He updated his blog.

Ethan wrote:

The last summary I got from the uC group had a huge amount of info and it seemed to be making a lot of sense. Perhaps that should be "seemed to be making well reasoned connections", because I'm not sure any of this case "makes sense". Yet. But the King Solomon track with the demons and the ring (that was not a ring) really seems to fit. Only had the briefest time to go through some of the info we have today, but one thing that looked interesting was a bit in the vast store of Freemasonry data that mentioned Hiram (or CHiram) Abiff and the fact (within the Masonic framework anyway) that he was the chief architect of the temple and that he was murdered by "three ruffians" who were trying to get him to divulge the secret password of Master Mason (which appears to be Tubal Cain - shame those ruffians didn't have the Internet at the time of the first temple). Now, I don't think anyone (Masons included) buys that there even was such a thing as Freemasonry at the time of the first temple. All allegory and symbolism, right? But this "three ruffians" definitely caught my eye with the obvious reference to three. And if there was a murder involved, it's not too much of a jump to connect a punishment (as Luke posits) to the three; perhaps banishment, execution and shunning? Kind of breaks down there, though, maybe. What's the difference between banishment and forcing someone to wander? For a really long time? More allegory? Within the Mason legends they were all three executed. Really interested in what MSG4 is saying now. But completely at a a loss as to how to attack it. As I mentioned to Mort, I'm sure it will call for searching outside the box. Thinking outside the box, I mean (damn, I am tired).

Sounds like we were on the right track with puzzling out MSG4. Especially the Mason/Temple connection.

That's the second time Ethan has mentioned searching. In one of his recent emails he mentioned the thrill he got when he found "weebly" by a search and he looked forward to doing more of that.

Sounds like MSG4 might lead to a website if we can put the pieces together.