Comment by Consistency is King | 2008/02/11 at 15:09:17
Hey Spearmint, the least you could do is keep the dates on your pages consistent. Sheesh.
jademacalla wrote:
Comment by jademacalla | 2008/02/11 at 22:10:35
Hey there, Spearmint, we haven't been introduced, but I've been following you unique brand of bull$&!# for a while now and am truly dazzled by your stupidity. You see, I was strolling down a path into the shadows the other night, pursuing worthy goals, when there, in a particularly dark patch, I saw this: http://autumncountry.deviantart.com/art/Raadella-29174823
Imagine my surprise. Since I am confident that I know a hell of a lot more about this than you do, why don't you drop me a line and I'll tell you all about it. And since it appears you may not be familiar with modern technology, I'll make it easy: jademacalla at gmail dot com (make the "at" an @ and the "dot" a .)
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:52 am
mortality
Thanks, Luke. I hope you didn't take that as a rebuke.
Emails from Ethan. I sent him the info from Jade about Heather and Apt. 1705. I also emailed him the thoughts I posted about MSG5.
Ethan wrote:
Re: MSG5
Dear Mort,
If this Slider is good at solving crazy puzzles, I doubt it would hurt to let him know about the 0701 stuff. If you are still thinking that the two cases are somehow related, though, you know what I, personally, think about that. But, in the spirit of objectivity, probably no harm in seeing if he notices some kind of connection.
Very interesting point on the other letters in MSG5. Could Dei Obligati also mean "Obligated TO God"? I'll have to brush off my Latin. What about the Funs? Checked my dictionary and I see that Funis can mean rope and funus can mean funeral. Interesting, but of course the letters don't fit. I guess that's something you all have to be cautious of all the time, huh, making things fit that simply don't.
Regards,
Ethan
Re: Appendix to MSG5 [ed. I sent him an update with badaim's suggestions]
Mort,
That's very interesting. I mean the interpretation that says "ending God's bindings". That seems like a really loose interpretation, but it could be related in light of the Demon/Djinn angle that some people have thrown around.
What's the role of the lines around some of the letters in this interpretation. Do you think they might be a red herring?
Ethan
Reply
me wrote:
We weren't so much wondering about whether 0701 is connected to 0702. It was more that he seems to be somewhat acquainted with, I guess, what we could call the subjects of esoterica, occultism and magic. 0701 seems to touch on those subjects. He offered his help. Maybe he can lend a fresh perspective. As long as you see no harm in letting him know about those documents, then we'll consider accepting his counsel.
Obligati is the plural form of obligatto. It's a descriptive plural noun, so it could mean "those who are obligated to God." Funs would've been English. A fun is an English noun for "an amusement." Funs plural would be "amusements." Doesn't fit because of the language switch. But you saw our subsequent speculation when we switched from Dei to Deus.
One more interpretation I didn't mention in either email, Deus Obligati Fin could also mean "the boundary of God's bindings."
We have not figured out how those lines relate. Or how any of this ties to a Pentagon. One possibility for the lines is that the square goes in the center and then the "Els" can be placed one to a side producing a four-pointed star with "L" in the center and F-I-T-O inside the points. FITO is a prefix for 10^-24. L could be the Roman numeral 50. Still working it all out.
We also came up with some more speculation for MSG3-5. We have two possibilities. We've been looking into the Occult aspects a little more than the Masonic aspects lately, because the Mason angle came up dry.
There are three famous Occultists that keep popping up: Aleister Crowley, MacGregor Mathers, and Austin Osman Spare. They don't all seem to fit...Crowley and Mathers were both interested in Freemasonry. Spare was more interested in Chaos magic and Rosicrucianism/Hermeticism. Two other names that make more sense with Crowley/Maters are Eliphas Levi and Papus.
We're thinking that it's possible that three of them might be the names we need to put in MSG3, and then each one would subsequently be related to MSG4 and 5, and probably a future MSG6. We haven't found evidence indicating that they are tied to a 4-, 5-, or 6-sided figure yet. Nor have we found how they could relate to Luke's punishment theme.
You had mentioned that maybe the three names relate to "things." In that case, we could be looking at "will" "conceptuality" and "imaginability." It's possible to make a case that Enlil, as a god, matches with "imaginability," W. Wallace with "will," both his name and the fact that he died for a cause, and Ahasuerus with "conceptuality" because as the Wandering Jew he is tied to immortality and blasphemy, as the king he is tied to wisdom. No idea how this would apply to MSG4 and 5, or to the Solomon stuff.
Both are still stretches at this point. Working out the details. Wondering if you have any thoughts.
-Mort
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:07 am
Typoxic
Re: [Meta]
mortality wrote:
If we send emails that have potential to alter the course of the game, it might make sense to post their full text so that everyone can know what was said. Not necessarily so that it can be reviewed in advance, but just so that we're all on the same page.
Kind of like we did when we came to the decision to tell Ethan about Brighton Early. The PMs probably won't let players truly derail the story, but near-full disclosure can only help us work together.
Also: I'll look less foolish.
Sorry. I mentioned it, but I left out the email because I thought it would be more useful after it got a response (other than the auto-reply). You're right, though, so here it is.
Quote:
Hey, Slider. You haven't heard from me yet, but I'm part of the group you've been communicating with. Our associate went to the address embedded in the files Philly left for you, and found a woman who was charged with memorizing a "poem". It was meant for you, so maybe it'll mean something to you?
But Heather, zero is growing cold in heaven.
Negative. Heaven burns, consuming every god in glorious ashes.
-Luke
On the subject of RN, maybe the ivd/t thing is something like an inventory number.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:58 pm
WolfHawk
mortality wrote:
Philly's poem for Slider (watch the video for context):
Quote:
But Heather zero is growing cold in heaven.
Negative.
Heaven burns.
Consuming every god in glorious ashes.
Sorry I kinda dropped the email ball there (or held on to it for too long? whatever). I've been a little under the weather, and anyway badaim (Paul), as you know, has had some rather entertaining/annoying correspondence with Mr. Slidey. Or, as he might prefer to be called, the Right Hon. Mr. Foppy McPomperton IV, Esq. What a twerp, old or young. Although I can't shake the impression of someone much older than he appears, but that's probably just the unfortunate side effect of letting Chris "Crackhead" Carter have waaay too much influence on my subconscious.
Anyway, I was staring at that stupid Reality Now website (I know, I just can't let it go) and decided to try looking up some of the "usernames" (if that's what they are) on teh intarwebs one more time... figured I'd check some social networking sites and stuff, though I'm not real sure how... so I googled "devislade", and look what came up:
Interesting, I thought. Those dates in particular are weird. Either they're so stupid they can't even stick with a consistent format (is it mm/dd/yy or dd/mm/yy ??), or something else is going on. And the "ivd/t" date for this magical mystery tape is almost a full year AFTER the date of the post. We think "iv" means "interview" - so they had an interview planned? Did it not happen? What the hell?
Sigh. Anyway, they don't appear to be in possession of it, which is kind of too bad, because a tape that "summons music from nowhere" might come in handy when my iPod battery dies, as it too often does. Of course I guess that depends on the music... Cowboy Junkies might not be just the ticket when I'm already half asleep and just trying to get to work safely.
Nor do they seem to have this weird black knife, although they do have a good story on it I suppose. Anyway, I thought you might be interested. Take a look and let me know what you think.
P
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:20 pm
mortality
[Meta]
If we send emails that have potential to alter the course of the game, it might make sense to post their full text so that everyone can know what was said. Not necessarily so that it can be reviewed in advance, but just so that we're all on the same page.
Kind of like we did when we came to the decision to tell Ethan about Brighton Early. The PMs probably won't let players truly derail the story, but near-full disclosure can only help us work together.
Also: I'll look less foolish.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:29 pm
Typoxic
Re: LOL
mortality wrote:
Well, we still don't know what QS's game is, and that's kind of a problem. But if he's telling the truth about not knowing what Philly was doing, I don't see the harm in letting him know the message and its source.
He already knows. At least, he will when he checks his email.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:25 pm
Sylvia
petunia, could you post the email that you sent Jade? It's hard to tell from his email to you exactly what he is considering disinformation without knowing what you asked him or told him. Thanks
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:19 pm
mortality
Re: LOL
A butler's pantry is like a utility/storage room. He's essentially confirming that slider888SPLATgmail.com is a drop box for "business" with people one could consider "the help," not for personal correspondence with intimate acquaintances.
Re: "negative," I took that to mean that he was negating the first line about "zero growing cold in heaven." The follow-up lines confirmed that, continuing to contradict the opening line. And it's those last two lines that provided the link to Deicide and "When Heaven Burns."
I'm wondering if maybe this means Philly had a public playlist/profile on a music site like last.fm.
surfzoned wrote:
Maybe we are supposed to think Philly is a hip young cat or maybe he is just eager to please and very impressionable; which people can often be when they are in their early 20s? Then again, maybe we are supposed to feel disconnected to Philly or possibly even hate him. Which could be intended if he is to come to an unfortunate demise.
He's definitely not "hip." Hip people don't listen to Satanic death metal. They listen to people that play acoustic guitar with ennui. They're also far too disaffected to even play with magic ironically, let alone credulously.
badaim68 wrote:
I get the feeling we can't overuse him, so we need to be pretty specific about what we ask re the triangles and the messages.
Oh, and do we risk telling QS the message from Philly (as it was intended for him)?
Well, we still don't know what QS's game is, and that's kind of a problem. But if he's telling the truth about not knowing what Philly was doing, I don't see the harm in letting him know the message and its source.
The song lyrics seemed in line with our speculation that 0702 is designed to summon a malevolent entity ("prepare to fear...it will be a beacon for..."). If the poem will clue Slider in to that band and song, then I think it'd be a hint to Slider about what Philly was trying to accomplish. Why not get his opinion?
If we want to take our time with this, we might first ask Petra whether Philly listened to that band's music.
I am not comfortable revealing anything about the Open Cases. While Ethan didn't say anything about keeping the Open Cases content to ourselves, he did say he was thankful we kept WF out of the St. Pete business. For now, I think we keep MSG1-5 and the cipher to ourselves. At least until we have a better idea of what Slider is up to on his own.
MSG5
I've tried a couple different approaches to making sense of the 5 letter triplets. I get a possibly relevant partial anagram:
Dei Obligati (leftovers: FUNS...could mean "the sources of amusement for God's indispensables")
Obligati is a term that actually seems to relate to Freemasonry. The "funs" part throws me, tho. And I don't know how that relates to pentagons.
Badaim pointed out that it could be Obligati Deus Fin. Which might translate to God's last bindings, God's last servants, ending God's servants, or finishing (i.e. executing) God's servants, or ending (releasing) God's bindings.
The markings on the paper could be used to form a four-point star. L in the center, F, I, T, and O in the points. FITO is a prefix purportedly meaning 10^-24. L could be the roman numeral 50.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:42 pm
petunia
from Jade
short & dismissive, but with a twist?
Quote:
What a very strange development. LMGDAO. Well, at least now we know that RN is nothing more than someone's attempt to throw some strange disinformation very specifically in our direction. How very, very odd. I really wonder what they could have hoped to accomplish with this goofiness. Can't wait to tell the kids back at the office about this one.
Interesting that he calls it "disinformation" rather than straight incompetence, eh?
Nah, Sylvia, the coffee thing was just that, a tip from one caffeine bean junkie to another. Gah, now I have to find a reason to go to IKEA... I hate going there...
What's with the "butler's pantry" thing in QS's previous email? He mentions it twice. Is his somebody's butler?
Philly's poem, if that's what it is, is really weird. The "Negative" all by itself made me think that maybe we're supposed to use the opposite words, like hell for heaven or freeze for burn, or something. And why is Heather's NAME in there? If she's just some random girl, that doesn't make any sense at all.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:27 am
surfzoned
LOL
Sylvia, as a person with experience concerning Djinn's choices of music I have to ask that you not hold choice of bands against them. They have a habit of using bands and their lyrics that they personally can't stand, often times even detest, in order to relay a certain characteristic trait about a character.
In Overwatch they used Spandau Ballet which Jade had lamented hating on his personal blog just months earlier.
It is, unfortunately, the nature of the beast at times.
=)
Maybe we are supposed to think Philly is a hip young cat or maybe he is just eager to please and very impressionable; which people can often be when they are in their early 20s? Then again, maybe we are supposed to feel disconnected to Philly or possibly even hate him. Which could be intended if he is to come to an unfortunate demise.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:12 am
Typoxic
I just asked him about it, awaiting a reply. It was meant for him, so ideally he'll know what Philly was getting at.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:00 am
badaim68
QS offers help
Funnily enough Sylvia I had only just sent QS an email thanking him for the file and offering the group's help in any problems he may need solving (hope you all don't mind me whoring out our services ).
QS then sent the following:
Quote:
My Dear Paul,
Not that I would ever have thought otherwise of you, but, sink me, if that isn't one of the most civil things I have heard from anyone in far longer than a dog's age. I, in turn, feel compelled to offer my humble services in return, such as they may be.
Although I can make no claim to any useful penchants, per se, I have been known to know a thing or three about certain triangles, and although I may not actively participate in any games save my own, I am familiar with some of those games' rules and variants.
If I may be of some meager assistance, I hope you won't hesitate to hurl a bottle in my direction.
Sincerely,
QS
I get the feeling we can't overuse him, so we need to be pretty specific about what we ask re the triangles and the messages.
Oh, and do we risk telling QS the message from Philly (as it was intended for him)?
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:19 am
Sylvia
I guess to each his own, but that band totally sucks. If this is getting that scary, I'm not sure I want to play anymore. I liked the idea of faeries and the Autumn Country story and how Whitechapel is a charter of Enclave's. I even want to believe that oc0702 isn't as bad as it sounds. But those [google]Deicide[/google] guys scare the crap out of me. They scare me even worser than the bible thumpers do. But for the life of me, I can't find anything else that works with that poem.
Badaim, when you check in this morning can you hit up Slider and let him know what we found and get his take on it. He may not answer but it's worth a try. The reason I say that is because Petra quit responding to me and I'm not sure it's even worth asking her what kind of music Philly liked.
Congrats petunia, Jade mentioned you on that video. By the way, was that a hint or clue about the coffee or just a private thing.
I want to believe, but I can't be positive, that the poem is like some sort of pass phrases. Like the first person says, "But Heather, Zero is growing cold in Heaven." and the second person answers, "Negative, Heaven burns, consuming every god in glorious ashes." Which gains entrance into ?????
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:41 am
mortality
Jade wrote:
Hey there, Mort:
Well, I was able to get over to St. James crossing today.
Have I mentioned the words 'Philly' and 'asshat' in the same sentence before?
Philly's poem for Slider (watch the video for context):
Quote:
But Heather zero is growing cold in heaven.
Negative.
Heaven burns.
Consuming every god in glorious ashes.
Not sure if I got the syntax right. I'm pretty clueless. Found a death metal band called "Deicide" with a song "When Heaven Burns." They're a tampa band. Not sure if that's relevant or what to do with it.
Do we ask Slider for help? Petra? Both? I emailed Ethan, and I asked Jade to confirm the poem.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:52 am
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