[Wireless]

The reach logo on the "our mission" section under about is a hand reaching for an orange circle ...?


Also, think what a holographic limb could do for a disabled person. Just as an aside.

[intersect]

theres a number at the bottom of the source code of the REACH site...

1210891625

dont know if its significant or not, if the sites IG...

Wireless wrote:

update, the ip address of the site according to a whois is supposed to be 64.49.219.194. typing in 64.49.219.195 gives us a mysterious login screen

thats the login screen for the webhosting server i think

mosso.com

Personally, i don't think its IG, why would an org that is beneficiary to disadvantaged young ppl be related to a high tech company with something to hide? I'm thinking coincidence, though i will admit the site does look suspicious, with the newness and non-working store and all...

i could be wrong though (usually a high possibility probability)

[Wireless]

update, the ip address of the site according to a whois is supposed to be 64.49.219.194.

typing in 64.49.219.195 gives us a mysterious login screen

[intersect]

celina63 wrote:

New Nate Post: http://codewtrn8.blogspot.com/2008/05/blog-post.html Nate wrote: A lot has happened since my last post which I can't talk about. Sorry to be so vague, but until I can figure out how to react and what to do next, vague is the new black. I don't know what to do and if I figure that out, if I can do it alone. Are my friends here even my friends? Poor kid... it sucks suddenly feeling like you can't trust anyone around you...

and the dark clouds of conspiracy and suspicion descend...

[redct]

Wireless wrote:

is this something? The website for the "Reach The Future" foundation. It's pretty new and... well doesn't seem right, have a look and see if there's something here or I'm just sleep deprived. Reach the future is the advertising campaign slogan and is on the holomove homepage source text. http://www.rtffusa.org/reach/

Does look like something, but doubtfully, considering the contact information.

And about the reverse haptics hand; maybe it strangled Dr. Gough? ;D
"MAGICAL HAND HATES CREATOR, WILL STRANGLE"

[ares5000]

AUZ505 wrote:

Haptics can be seen as touching/manipulating a virtual object with a real device. I think, Reverse Haptics means touching/manipulating physical objects with a virtual device, like seen in the video. Because nobody is actually really working on such a technology there will be not many references found in literature (as long as it is not SF literature )

Theres the Novint Falcon controller. It's a haptic controller for video games and 3D modeling. It lets you play with 3D models in 3D space and gives you some nice feedback and pressure too.
http://home.novint.com/products/novint_falcon.php

[Wireless]

is this something?

The website for the "Reach The Future" foundation. It's pretty new and... well doesn't seem right, have a look and see if there's something here or I'm just sleep deprived.

Reach the future is the advertising campaign slogan and is on the holomove homepage source text.

http://www.rtffusa.org/reach/

[AUZ505]

Haptics can be seen as touching/manipulating a virtual object with a real device.

I think, Reverse Haptics means touching/manipulating physical objects with a virtual device, like seen in the video. Because nobody is actually really working on such a technology there will be not many references found in literature (as long as it is not SF literature )

[Wireless]

Searching for reverse haptics on google, I found a page with reference to audio and visual data but it was gone, only available from cache,

Here is the text, if any use.

Quote:

Managed Haptics Haptics: from ancient greek haptikos = to touch. Refers to the science of touch controlled machines. Early this month, H3D API, the world's first X3D based haptic scene graph API for development of multi-sensory VR solutions, finished beta testing and moved to v1.0. The openGL world has its haptic api...what would be the architecture of a C# haptic namespace? First we need a hardware interface for spacial input. The primary one is SensAble Technologies' Open Haptics SDK for haptic rendering on the Phantom, an armitured digipen sort of looking thing, with an overly ominous sounding moniker. Its available for Windows. I haven't purchased it but it seems to be integrated into MFC. How feasible is a wrapper for managed extensions to the api? Once again, we are probably dealing with a case of hundreds of those pesky interfaces being handled in COM Interop. Is it worth it? For me I am interested in the other route. Reverse haptics. How can the machine touch you? Using only color (visual) and frequency (audio) data, how are different stimuli mapped to the brain?

cache link

http://tinyurl.com/68y4f6

look for managed haptics

[edit: tinyurl is your friend for unwieldy links that break the forum width - gupfee]

[OwnD]

Quote:

[Dr. Gough and AJ, his assistant, are standing next to a large table. The table has alot of complex-looking items on it, one being a box with what looks like (but probably isn't) air duct tubing coming out of it, another being a long, illuminated flourescent tube emitting multiple colors, several lasers, and a hologram projector.] Dr. Gough: Okay, continuing our pre-alpha test. Um, sequence number 342. Oh, no no. This is test number 343. And, here are some notes on the setup. Uh, we're using the progressively phased Argon lasers with, uh, protoype 4 module, and the Holo Repro software is version 1.003.1705. And, uh, we're also using the electrostatic sonic field drivers with prototype 7 for the sonic driver module, and the reverse haptics driver is Version 0.41.509. [AJ checks a camera] Okay, ah, you ready AJ? AJ: Yes. Dr. Gough: Alright, goggles on. [Puts on goggles] AJ: Okay. Dr. Gough: And, uh, turn on the Holo Repro system. AJ: Yes Doctor. It's on. Dr. Gough: It's on now, okay. Um, okay, it looks like it's in phase, ready to go! I'm reaching in. [Slowly sticks hand in box with tube] AJ: Okay. Dr. Gough: Hey! I can see it coming through, that's-that's good. That's good, just like we expected. And that's, uh, good. Now, I can flex my fingers, I can roll my hand. I can move side to side [camera pans over table and shows a holographic hand] and pull back (AJ: Ooh!) and it's tracking pretty closely. That sounds good, okay. Um, time ot turn onn the reverse haptics generator system AJ: Okay. Reverse haptic generator is on. [Flicks a switch] Dr. Gough: Okay, that's, ah, that took it a moment, but it's in sync now. Alright, now. Let's, let's give it a test here. [begins moving the orange with the hologram] I'm going to touch the orange and, uh, move it a little to the right, a little to left, a little toward me, and a little - a little away. Okay, that's good. AJ: That's fine. Dr. Gough: Good, that confirms it . 317, I think was the test number when we first saw this much, now, let's see if we can keep from slipping off it. AJ: Okay. Dr. Gough: I'm gonna try and lift it up, lift it up and it's coming, I think we got it! [Lifts orange in the air] It's coming up this time! Hey hey hey! [both laugh] AJ: It's up! Dr. Gough: I can see the [AJ: You got it!] thing underneath it! AJ: Oh my God! Dr. Gough: Oh, this is for the books, AJ! You sure the video's recording this? AJ: Yeah we've got it. Dr. Gough: Data, yeah? AJ: Yes, data is on! Dr. Gough: Okay! Alright, alright! Okay, now, let's see, I'm gonna try and turn my hand over so I'm actually gonna hold the orange in the palm of my hand and see... [Colors flash blueish and reddish, then invert. Orange drops through the hand, and the screen flashes white. Dr. Gough's scream is distorted, and there are strange electric noises] AJ: Oh God!

Here's the transcript in all it's touched up goodness....

[ineffabelle]

ineffabelle wrote:

I thought it was interesting that he was using holograms to manipulate food... specifically an orange i think. ... One more final thought... the packages some of you received contained a package from was was essentially orange juice with the logo stuck on top.

MrToasty wrote:

MrToasty wrote: ineffabelle wrote: MrToasty wrote: Just a random thought - the packet of Emergen-C sent was Super Orange, and Gough is fondling an orange in the video. Any significance? I think I'm supposed to trout you for repeating for what I said a few posts before, but I'm never trouted someone before and don't know how You need to make sure you post a link back to the original post, and most folks will use the trout emoticon too. You can type : trout : without the spaces to automatically insert it. ETA If this is the quote you are referring to: Quote: One more final thought... the packages some of you received contained a package from was was essentially orange juice with the logo stuck on top. Perhaps the compound is contaminating the orange juice or the drink package is the missing link between the company logo/molecule and the company needing a slow food chef. I'd say that's not trout. I was pointing out the use of the orange in the video as a second orange reference, and there is no mention of that in your post, so no trout.

Thanks Mr. Toasty I couldn't have trouted you without your help

[OwnD]

Yeah, that was a rough one - hadn't gone back to correct it or make it look nice because I had to run out and catch my bus :X

P.S. I'll touch that one up, add their actions etc. for the people who can't see the video.

[Agent Lex]

OwnD wrote:

Dr. Gough: Okay, continuing our pre-alpha test. Um, sequence number 342. Oh, no no. This is test number 343. And, here are some notes on the setup. Uh, we're using the progressively phased Argon lasers with, uh, protoype 4 module, and the holo repro software is version 1.003.1705. And, uh, we're also using the electrostatic sonic field drivers with prototype 7 for the sonic driver module, and the reverse haptics driver is Version 0.41.509. Okay, ah, you ready AJ? AJ: Yes. Dr. Gough: Alright, goggles on. AJ: Okay. Dr. Gough: And, uh, turn on the holo repro system. AJ: Yes Doctor. It's on. Dr. Gough: It's on now, okay. Um, okay, it looks like it's in phase, ready to go! I'm reaching in. AJ: Okay. Dr: Gough: Hey! I can see it coming through, that's-that's good. That's good, just like we expected. And that's, uh, good. Now, I can flex my fingers, I can roll my hand. I can move side to side and pull back (AJ: Ooh!) and it's tracking pretty closely. That sounds good, okay. Um, time ot turn onn the reverse haptics generator system AJ: Okay. Reverse haptic generator is on. Dr. Gough: Okay, that's, ah, that took it a moment, but it's in sync now. Alright, now. Let's, let's give it a test here. I'm going to touch the orange and, uh, move it a little to the right, a little to left, a little toward me, and a little - a little away. Okay, that's good. AJ: That's fine. Dr. Gough: Good, that confirms it

Since I'm home now, a continuation... (made a couple of corrections above also)

Quote:

Gough: 31... 7 I think was the test number when we first saw this much, now, let's see if we can keep from slipping off it. AJ: Okay. Gough: I'm gonna try and lift it up, lift it up and it's coming, I think we got it! It's coming up this time! Hey hey hey! [both laugh] AJ: It's up! Gough: I can see the [AJ: You got it!] thing underneath it! AJ: Oh my God! Gough: Oh, this is for the books, AJ! You sure the video's recording this? AJ: Yeah we've got it. Gough: Data, yeah? AJ: Yes, data is on! Gough: Okay! Alright, alright! Okay, now, let's see, I'm gonna try and turn my hand over so I'm actually gonna hold the orange in the palm of my hand and see... [bad flashy things and electric buzzes] [AJ screams]

[OwnD]

There ya go

P.S. Going to work on the transcript in a bit.

[MrToasty]

MrToasty wrote:

ineffabelle wrote: MrToasty wrote: Just a random thought - the packet of Emergen-C sent was Super Orange, and Gough is fondling an orange in the video. Any significance? I think I'm supposed to trout you for repeating for what I said a few posts before, but I'm never trouted someone before and don't know how You need to make sure you post a link back to the original post, and most folks will use the trout emoticon too. You can type : trout : without the spaces to automatically insert it.

ETA
If this is the quote you are referring to:

Quote:

One more final thought... the packages some of you received contained a package from was was essentially orange juice with the logo stuck on top. Perhaps the compound is contaminating the orange juice or the drink package is the missing link between the company logo/molecule and the company needing a slow food chef.

I'd say that's not trout. I was pointing out the use of the orange in the video as a second orange reference, and there is no mention of that in your post, so no trout.