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mousekinn
Re: Yser
CCS wrote:
"Yser" was first proposed as a solution by Catherwood back on page 39 (I think), and goes like this:

take letters 1,3,6, and 5 from "Yesterday"

The email subject was May 18, 2008. "Yesterday" was May 17.

"Lost innocence" seems fitting. Think "All Quiet on the Western Front" and "In Flanders Field".

edit: I also saw a reference somewhere to "more than a thousand" casualties at Yser, but I haven't been able to locate a "casualty list". Perhaps it would show 1,365 lost ... but that's pure speculation.


Ah.

According to wikipedia:
Belgium: 40,000
France: 15,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Yser

Interestingly enough, the second battle of the Ypres is the battle in which they used the gas (perhaps second casualties?). "Just to the south the First Battle of Ypres started concurrent with the Battle of the Yser." The second battle's casualties were above 1365 too, though.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:18 am
CCS
Yser
"Yser" was first proposed as a solution by Catherwood back on page 39 (I think), and goes like this:

take letters 1,3,6, and 5 from "Yesterday"

The email subject was May 18, 2008. "Yesterday" was May 17.

"Lost innocence" seems fitting. Think "All Quiet on the Western Front" and "In Flanders Field".

edit: I also saw a reference somewhere to "more than a thousand" casualties at Yser, but I haven't been able to locate a "casualty list". Perhaps it would show 1,365 lost ... but that's pure speculation.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:02 am
enaxor
tygr20 wrote:
Interesting, but maybe useless information:

I Googled "1365 deaths" to try to correlate "casualty list number 2" with our RK email, and got this- Rudolf IV, Duke of Austria. Died in 1365- probably nothing. Still.

The lovable mousekinn found that WWII was 1365 days long.

There were 103 years between Shinran's death(1262) and 1365. Puzzling.

As for the text that hasn't been deciphered, it doesn't appear to be any simple letter subs, not a Caesar box, not a cryptogram.


If WWII was 1,365 days long, could be both are pointing to WWII, maybe an Enigma cipher? Then again the "May 17th" connection for the battle of Yser, is pretty strong too.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:17 am
mousekinn
CCS wrote:
You are correct. I meant to write RK, but I guess I have been thinking of an AJ/RK connection. We should keep those two distinct, unless there's some reason to connect them later. Good point.


No worries. For the Yser answer to the second part of the email, did we ever figure out how 1,365 connected to the Battle? I mean, otherwise it makes sense if you ask me. (Everything has to be used in war. sigh. so typical)

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:16 am
CCS
You are correct. I meant to write RK, but I guess I have been thinking of an AJ/RK connection. We should keep those two distinct, unless there's some reason to connect them later. Good point.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:12 am
mousekinn
Re: Coded Message
CCS wrote:
I think the message from the picture just confirms what has already been speculated about on this board. RK's email points us to:

1. Shinran Shonin
2. Battle of Yser, May 17, 1915

What these two have in common is the devastating use of a new military technology. The statue of Shinran survived Hiroshima. The events at Yser in May 1915 were part of the Second battle of Ypres, which is famous for marking the first widespread use of chemical warfare by the German army in WWI.

[Cue spooky music.] AJ may be telling us that Dr. Gough's technology is being developed for military use. Who could have ever predicted such a development!

Of course, none of that tells us what to do next. Oh well.


You mean RK, right? We don't know for certain it's AJ. (Personally I don't think RK would link us to a video where he featured so prominently, that's a bit silly and asking for trouble if anyone found out it's him)

You have an amazingly interesting point, there. It is sufficiently distracting me from doing my job.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:41 am
CCS
Coded Message
I think the message from the picture just confirms what has already been speculated about on this board. RK's email points us to:

1. Shinran Shonin
2. Battle of Yser, May 17, 1915

What these two have in common is the devastating use of a new military technology. The statue of Shinran survived Hiroshima. The events at Yser in May 1915 were part of the Second battle of Ypres, which is famous for marking the first widespread use of chemical warfare by the German army in WWI.

[Cue spooky music.] RK* may be telling us that Dr. Gough's technology is being developed for military use. Who could have ever predicted such a development!

Of course, none of that tells us what to do next. Oh well.

*edit: originally said "AJ"

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:35 am
tygr20
Interesting, but maybe useless information:

I Googled "1365 deaths" to try to correlate "casualty list number 2" with our RK email, and got this- Rudolf IV, Duke of Austria. Died in 1365- probably nothing. Still.

The lovable mousekinn found that WWII was 1365 days long.

There were 103 years between Shinran's death(1262) and 1365. Puzzling.

As for the text that hasn't been deciphered, it doesn't appear to be any simple letter subs, not a Caesar box, not a cryptogram.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:26 am
Wireless
1,365 could be a flat number, block 1 flat 365

or maybe a hotel room. Floor 1, Room 365

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:05 am
mousekinn
Shinran fits with the first portion of the email RK sent out, as posted a few pages back -- He has a statue just about at Riverside and Duke Ellington Blvd. So we seem to have closed in on that one - and if logic follows, 1365 may be a casualty list of sorts.

No idea what it _means_ though. (Shinran has a very interesting history if you do a quick read up on him where he realized the monastary he spent 20 years at was full of corruption adn greed and set out to find himself again)

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:14 am
danteIL
Well in light of this new info it's worth bringing back this excellent spec from earlier in the thread:

Avandas wrote:
Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
Duke Ellington Lived on Riverside Drive in New York @ W. 106th St., which was later renamed "Duke Ellington Boulevard".


Were talking about this in IRC actually, there's a statue of Shinran Shonin near that street corner. He founded a sect of Buddhism in Japan. The statue came from Hiroshima, having survived the atomic bomb that destroyed the city. The church the statue is in front of held an event in honor or Shinran's b-day, as well as the Buddhist holiday Magha Puja today.


So, Duke Ellington's address and this statue of Shinran Shonin are within a block of each other....

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:08 am
Agent Lex
First line of each looks like it's a keyboard transpo. One to the left on each character gives...

Quote:
1) shinran shonin email

2) casualty list number two


Doesn't work with the long strings, though.

ETA: Shinran Shonin. Doubt he had an email, though...

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:47 am
memehunter
New post from Nate:



Quote:
Okay, so I admit that my decision making is suspect, as I am…what is th word? plowed. all those -ed words, actually. Screw this place. And screw her. Or not.

Speaking of sharp pain, I decided to follow up on Celina's post, and see what the deal is with the Dr. photo. see below.

hey, who's hiring? I'm kidding. Sort of.

such a mess.

1) DJOMTSM DJPMOM R,SO;

DEUBPBAWNOUWXGNNAWEVBOHYNLBVUGGYIKVRWBGSBLSBZGKIIAXSICRMFFVUSBZHZMUY

2) VSDIS;YU ;ODY MI,NRT YEP
LPFWHSVWTLLQDPYWBRKQQIABEHVRLFIUIEHXXYFWMQMCOJSVAUMQMYAIKHRCRG



So, there we are. Let's get cracking.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:07 am
Wireless
Quote:
Guess we have to keep an eye on the holomove.com website (too bad something there stops it from loading on my home computer - I think it's the sound player).


Update you're Flash Player software.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:15 am
konamouse
Poor Nate. Never date in the office, especially your boss.

She's a user (or she better have a really good reason for breaking his heart).

Meanwhile, Annie's been busy typing (and probably cutting and pasting) a bunch of emails.

Quote:
Hi HL,

Thanks for your note. I must say, I'm surprised by the number of
applicants for the Executive Chef position.

I'm afraid that we've temporarily put the position on hold, until the
kitchen is remodeled to...everyone's complete satisfaction.

That being said, we still have some ways to keep the process moving forward.
Could we ask you to fill out a preliminary employment questionnaire? It should be up on the website within the next day or two.

Again, the new ad campaign (and press) have generated a ton of buzz...
I don't think I've seen the top of my desk in a week...so thanks again
for your patience, as well as your continued interest in Holomove.

Regards,

Annie Goldstein
Senior Recruiter.


Guess we have to keep an eye on the holomove.com website (too bad something there stops it from loading on my home computer - I think it's the sound player).

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:18 am
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