[ProjectXI]

Seems a stretch to me...

But in case its not, you left out the Hamlet reference. Throw in an extra 1, probably--it's Scene 1.

[syntacticAtrocity]

oh wow, why don't we correlate the book and chapter #s of the passages to the epithets?

*edit*

Part 1 Chapter 9
Part 1 Chapter 4
Part 1 Chapter 15 Scene 16 Act 1

1914115161?

Phone number? 1 914 115 161.. missing a digit.

*edit* updated with Hamlet Scene 1

Quote:

1 914 111 5161

Area Code Lookup gives us:

Quote:

914 NY -5 S New York: Westchester County (see 845)

[ProjectXI]

Unlikely, Syntax. They're not stories per se, they're chapters in the ongoing story. "Tales from Watership Down" is a short story collection, but Watership Down is a contiguous novel.

Unless you mean De Gustibus, Hamlet, and Cossi fan Tutte. But I also doubt that.

Looking back at the code, though. What kinds of things can be communicated? How many variables do we have? Is each sample a whole variable? Or should we look at the actual text of the samples? And do the number of brackets matter? Ideas?

[Wulf74]

classical wrote:

Man, it's like talking to a parrot! I wonder who got the 'package'... I'm thinking someone got emailed. FYI, these are the repeated phrases I see: very nice message (tsk) does not share it was received (naughty) tell them care I'm not really getting anything out of rearranging them yet, but we'll see if I find something...

I'm not sure that there is anything there to rearrange it into. I could be wrong, but so far that has just been the pattern of speech by deMolay. Kinda like The Rainman, for anyone that remembers that show.

I also thought about your idea of the package being an email of some sort, so I checked the Spam filter of my email just in case, but nothing there. How about anyone else?

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Beat to the post again! lol

The more I think about it though, I think that the package would have to be an email, because my address isn't posted anywhere....

[syntacticAtrocity]

If someone got a package, they haven't been involved in this game (as far as the thread goes). I know I don't have anything; not physical, not in email, not in PM. I think there's only 2 others involved here, aside from classical who just made an appearance, those being Wulf and Project.

Clueless. I hope we don't have to read each of the 3 stories to hunt for clues to the 'konig darzin code'.

I also thought there'd be a message in JJDEMOLAY's writing duplications, but couldn't find anything coherent in his original emails. I'll go put them down and come back and edit.

*edit* from his original emails.

Quote:

That evening at the Curran Did Now I Follow Directions You Know it You Tell People Never Forgive Dead Bum in the Snow Wait for It

[classical]

Man, it's like talking to a parrot!
I wonder who got the 'package'... I'm thinking someone got emailed.

FYI, these are the repeated phrases I see:
very nice
message
(tsk) does not share
it was received
(naughty) tell them
care

I'm not really getting anything out of rearranging them yet, but we'll see if I find something...

[Wulf74]

ProjectXI wrote:

Okay, so, a little info on Watership Down.

Going hunting for medication...lol


Thanks for explaining it. It sounds like one of those books you have to read for yourself before it makes any sense.


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Someone got a package!? Well, whomever it is - lucky bastage... Do share!

[ProjectXI]

Aaaaand ping!

From our friend the Templar:

"Tsk tsk one of your own does not share. Does not share."

And apparently we're a bunch of dirty birds. So, uh, who got a "package"?

And because I believe there may be a message in JDM's repetitions, here's the full text of his message. Any ideas?

Quote:

Ah, very nice my friend. Very nice. But let's get real here. Tell your cohorts that I have a message. Message. Say, "Tsk tsk one of your own does not share. Does not share." You see I've sent a package and it was received it was received but someone is roosting! Naughty naughty dirty birds you few. Tell them, my friend, tell them to share. Lives are at stake. Not that I care. Care.

[ProjectXI]

(Status update: No email/PM from MK or JDM)

Okay, so, a little info on Watership Down.

Richard Adams wrote a book about rabbits as if they were a native tribe of England, theoretically based on a nonfiction book called "The Secret Lives of Rabbits." So, the "Watership Down 'universe'" is ours, if rabbits could talk to each other and had their own folklore.

The book Watership Down is divided into four parts (which I mistakenly called books in my first post). Each of those four parts is divided into chapters. Each chapter has an epigram, a quote from an outside source which is somehow thematically related. Like if you've ever read Stephen King, how he puts popular music before all his chapters.

The Beanflower passage is the epigram to Part 1, ch 9: The Crow and the Beanfield.

It's original source is Robert Browning's De Gustibus, and it comes from the end of the first portion. http://www.sanjeev.net/poetry/browning-robert/de-gustibus-106962.html

Fortinbras passage is the epigram to Book 1, ch 4: The Departure. Originally from Shakespeare's Hamlet. Horatio says it nearish the end of scene I. http://shakespeare.mit.edu/hamlet/full.html


Don Alfonso passage is the epigram to Book 1, ch 15: The Story of the King's Lettuce. Also from da Ponte's Cosi fan Tutte (which was written by Mozart). The lines are from the beginning of Scene 16, which happens to be the last scene of Act 1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Così_fan_tutte

So, hopefully that clarifies what that last post about the passages meant.

Now, as for the King with the lettuce being King Darzin, you're absolutely right. The Story of the King's Lettuce is an interlude in Watership Down, in which one of the characters tells a story from the rabbits mythology, in which their Trickster Prince manages to steal a bunch of the best lettuce from King Darzin, who is an unspecified animal with an enmity toward the rabbits. The trickster made Darzin think the lettuces had been poisoned by a parasite, so the King delivered them all to the rabbits as a "gift," intending to poison them. Think Bre'r Rabbit and the brier batch, but kind of in reverse.

So...does that make everything clear as mud?

[syntacticAtrocity]

Good thinking Project. It was discussed but never acted on.

As for King Darzin, I've never read the book, but it seems as though he's a legendary King of an animal kingdom? That he's something like a rabbit, but not really. Can't find anything in relation to a code.

I'm guessing it relates to deconstructing what the phrases in brackets really mean.

Project, a little clarification if you please:

Those 3 phrases you searched, are they all mini stories within the Watership Down 'universe', as it were (including the Hamlet reference?).

I ask because the story of the king's lettuce is a direct relation to King Darzin, as he claimed the fake plague or whatever was not caused by his people, rabbit look alikes, but rabbits.

..... my head is spinning.

[Wulf74]

syntacticAtrocity wrote:

I honestly have no idea how to progress here. This is just bizarre.

I'm at a loss too. But we're obviously moving in the wrong direction somehow. Not asking the right questions, or making the right assumptions. Heh - I mean we did get pretty tied up into that Masonry thing to begin with, lol.

There's a new post to his blog, with a little more detail about Jenny. And a few comments about all of the contacts he's been receiving from all of us.

@Project - I think you're probably right about the psycho-babble BS. About not being able to save Jenny, much like his daughter. I'm thinking Queenie is probably just a woman at his office fielding all of the phone calls he's supposedly been getting about this. In my reply to Port, I told him that we don't have his phone# (do we?), and he's never mentioned the actual name of the company he works for - so we wouldn't have been contacting him directly.

And I can't quite get a handle on the tone Port's responses either. They're almost apathetic at times. He didn't seem at all concerned that someone using my email address was emailing him cryptic passages from some cult favorite book. Even when I asked how anyone would even know that he and I have been exchanging emails...

As far as the Konig Darzin Code, I've no clue. Since I haven't read the book - I'll have to defer to the 2 of you that have. If it doesn't reference an actual "code" - maybe it means a set of morals he lived by .. or maybe it's an actual code.... /shrug. I haven't read it.. lol

He mentioned in one of the blogs, that he would've killed himself along time ago, if it wasn't for a strong sense of self-preservation. But I'm starting to get the impression that Port is just the living dead. He's just moving from situation to situation on autopilot - not really recognizing or acknowlodging what's going on around him. I mean - I don't know about everyone else here, but if I was seeing a dead chick - as she looked when she died - I'd probably start medicating myself. Heavily. Port just views it with a sense of detachment and annoyance. Just my rambling....

I need to re-read the blogs, because I'm just getting lost with some of it. The motorcycle crash? I remember him mentioning something about his daughter died, but I don't remember the pupils exploding - just kind of "losing their light".

Damn - back to work for a bit. Sorry for the book..


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Either I type way to slow - or way too much. You guys were able to post a few more times in the amount of time it me to do this..lol .. damn work anyway.

[ProjectXI]

Since nobody said they did it, I went ahead and dropped jjdemolaySPLATgmail.com a line:

Quote:

Mr. Demolay; I've been told you know good theaters in the SF Bay area. I'm looking to catch a play when I go down there later this year. Any suggestions? I've heard the Curran is good, any thoughts? P.

[syntacticAtrocity]

portnoy's complaint seems to fit the bill, re:

Quote:

Structurally, Portnoy's Complaint is a continuous monologue as narrated by its speaker, Alexander Portnoy, to his psychoanalyst, Dr. Spielvogel.

The writing on PK's blog is definitely monologue-esque (and an entertaining read at that). If I were to make an inference it would be that Port was in love with Jenny.

"Frankie Say Relax" is yet another music reference. I'm starting to wonder if there was something 1407 Oakhurst Avenue in music, or if someone is from there.

[ProjectXI]

New post, so FRANKIE SAY RELAX. This is still playable. If Mr. King were really worried about all the attention he was getting, he would've stopped writing.

And re: Portnoy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portnoy's_Complaint

Ethics vs. Sex?

[syntacticAtrocity]

I honestly have no idea how to progress here. This is just bizarre.