I had a very.. interesting email exchange with TT last night. Intially I was probing for information regarding the collected soul theory [unsuccessfully] and ended up with someone else entirely:
Me
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Do you ever notice getting older, TT?
TT
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OMG!!! What kidn of question is THAT?????? LOL. nothing is saggin if thats what your asking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me
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Sorry I missed ya. Playoff hockey and all. (there was an Im waiting for me)
My question meant... did you ever stop aging? How lnog have you been 16?
This is where things get weird. Initially, I got this response:
TT
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OK ????
Today, I got another response quoting the *same* email, which was not the same. Here's what I mean:
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WTF??? I thought The Game was OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
(This in response this an email I presumably sent)
Hey TT,
Sorry I missed ya. Playoff hockey and all.
Don't believe everything that Lenny says. He has trouble when not in control He still doesn't know how the Curran ticket came through his channels; he's just rolling with it; ask him for the original; watch him squirm. You have friends everywhere and this fight has just begun.
I responded
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The game has just begun, love. Now be a good little girl and get the original ticket from Lenny
I didn't think it was possible, but the game has reached a new level of WTF.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:44 am
Wulf74
Merago wrote:
As to TT being the girl from the family that JDM spoke of taking before, I'm not convinced. TT has mentioned before that she met up with Lenny voluntarily by joining The Game, mentioned in the flier. She contacted him.
Excellent point, I had forgotten completely about that. Did I mention I think we need a wiki? When I get back in town maybe I can work on it.
==edit==
For those of you not on twitter, there's been quite a bit going on there. JDM's latest tweet read:
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On the move again. Oddly - I'm in a New York state of mind.
I made a reply back to him:
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Why would it be Odd, that you're in a New York state of mind? I guess that could mean you're not actually going there....
And his reply as of a few seconds ago:
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@wulf74 Clever clever little bunny.
Problem is with all of his doublespeak, and almost downright refusal to answer straight forward questions (most of the time), is he admitting he's not going to NY or not? lol.. or am I overthinking this.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:28 am
Merago
Wulf74 wrote:
Forgive the dumb question, but are we sure that Lenny isn't a "collected" soul also? For me, so far it seems as though JDM uses all of these various souls as means to an end. And they do it willingly, for their love of him. Take PK's story of how Jenny died. If I remember right, the killer got in and out of a restroom window that was too high, and surrounded by 3 undercover patrol cars. And yet no one saw anything.
1 other thought. When JDM described the killing of that family the other day - could he have been describing the taking of TT?
If that has all been discussed, my apologies. We really need a wiki on this. Cuz I doubt it's going to get any easier.
Heh, I don't think we can be sure of anything at the moment to be honest.
Regarding TT being a collected soul:- I do think syntactic's idea was a very good one, and may possibly be correct. But I don't think we can read that it was the right one purely from Lenny's response.
As to TT being the girl from the family that JDM spoke of taking before, I'm not convinced. TT has mentioned before that she met up with Lenny voluntarily by joining The Game, mentioned in the flier. She contacted him. Whereas, with the family, JDM mentioned that he'd been approached by the father to deal with a problem his son had caused.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:04 am
Wulf74
Merago wrote:
Burrito wrote:
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So TT is a collected soul.
I'm not at all convinced of this. I think that was meant metaphorically.. like he wants her to see the world like he does. She's dead because she hasn't been shown what being alive is yet.
I have to say I was convinced by your line of thought syntacticAtrocity, as soon as I read your question I thought- "Damn, that's it. Great spot!". Nice bit of lateral thinking there. However, I'm with Burrito on this one, I think that's possibly just Lenny cracking a funny.
Forgive the dumb question, but are we sure that Lenny isn't a "collected" soul also? For me, so far it seems as though JDM uses all of these various souls as means to an end. And they do it willingly, for their love of him. Take PK's story of how Jenny died. If I remember right, the killer got in and out of a restroom window that was too high, and surrounded by 3 undercover patrol cars. And yet no one saw anything.
1 other thought. When JDM described the killing of that family the other day - could he have been describing the taking of TT?
If that has all been discussed, my apologies. We really need a wiki on this. Cuz I doubt it's going to get any easier.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:54 am
Merago
Burrito wrote:
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So TT is a collected soul.
I'm not at all convinced of this. I think that was meant metaphorically.. like he wants her to see the world like he does. She's dead because she hasn't been shown what being alive is yet.
I have to say I was convinced by your line of thought syntacticAtrocity, as soon as I read your question I thought- "Damn, that's it. Great spot!". Nice bit of lateral thinking there. However, I'm with Burrito on this one, I think that's possibly just Lenny cracking a funny.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:04 am
Burrito
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So TT is a collected soul.
I'm not at all convinced of this. I think that was meant metaphorically.. like he wants her to see the world like he does. She's dead because she hasn't been shown what being alive is yet.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:07 am
BlackandBlue
Thanks 3v1L Schwinn
Nice find on what deck the Priestess came from. The Classic Tarot
by Della Rocca, Italian or French in nature, I'm assuming.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:50 pm
syntacticAtrocity
syntacticAtrocity wrote:
I got an email from TT just now. Have to type it out because it's on my iPhone at work =/
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Just read the chats that Lenny had with you and then some chick (??) on my account (THX Len!) Hes so FING amazing!!
I can listen to him tlk for HOOOOUUUUURRRRRRSS!!!!!!!!
Ok off to feed teh Starbucks monster LOL
My reply;
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Hi TT!
Did Lenny kill you when you were 13?
BINGO!
TT's reply:
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NO SILLY!!!!!!! Lenny says I was dead long before that whatever THAT means!! LOL
Ill be online later tonight if your around.
Your FUN!!!
So TT is a collected soul.[/quote]
I just asked if she ever notices getting older.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:14 pm
3v1L Schwinn
JDM is heading to the big apple.
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JJDeMolayOn the move again. Oddly - I'm in a New York state of mind
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:14 pm
3v1L Schwinn
Re: There are so many Tarot Decks
BlackandBlue wrote:
Yes, all but the High Priestess cards appear to be from the Rider-Waite tarot (and the most common version, which is easy to find online.) Trying to find the exact deck the Priestess card was chosen from would take weeks, if you can even find a full 72 card pictured set of each. There must be around 300 listed here, not counting Oracle cards and Divination cards: http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/list.shtml.
I can see the High Priestess is not from the Crowley Tarot, nor the Brotherhood, Cat People, De Vinci, Masonic (at least not the one pictured) or Robin Wood Tarot decks.
Could it be as simple as the Tarot cards are each representing a character in the story arc? We got Empress three times, and that seemed to correspond to both Belle and Queenie, as Port was talking about both in some short order before the cards appeared. Could the Priestess be Jenny or TT? Since Port is in OK and the Emperor showed up today, maybe this is a connection and reason for the cards.
[Edited to add: The Lovers showed up around the same time Port was speaking about himself and Belle... Am I remembering correctly on that timing?]
It wouldn't explain who is putting them up however.
Yes, all but the High Priestess cards appear to be from the Rider-Waite tarot (and the most common version, which is easy to find online.) Trying to find the exact deck the Priestess card was chosen from would take weeks, if you can even find a full 72 card pictured set of each. There must be around 300 listed here, not counting Oracle cards and Divination cards: http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/list.shtml.
I can see the High Priestess is not from the Crowley Tarot, nor the Brotherhood, Cat People, De Vinci, Masonic (at least not the one pictured) or Robin Wood Tarot decks.
Could it be as simple as the Tarot cards are each representing a character in the story arc? We got Empress three times, and that seemed to correspond to both Belle and Queenie, as Port was talking about both in some short order before the cards appeared. Could the Priestess be Jenny or TT? Since Port is in OK and the Emperor showed up today, maybe this is a connection and reason for the cards.
[Edited to add: The Lovers showed up around the same time Port was speaking about himself and Belle... Am I remembering correctly on that timing?]
It wouldn't explain who is putting them up however.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:07 pm
syntacticAtrocity
3v1L Schwinn wrote:
TT mentions Starbucks several times. JDM mentions people sipping their lattes in his monologue. Port mentioned it in his blog.
Wouldn't it be funny if this was some kind of viral marketing for Starbucks, promoting a new drink? Maybe the "Tarot Chi latte"?
Ok back to work
The Tazo Chai ARG!
I think starbucks and lattes are synonomous with a yuppie lifestyle that's become cliche in regards to the hatred of introverted outsiders. it's all the product of one mind, the PM, and we're getting a look into his actual mentality. i don't think it's just a construct of the characters.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:07 pm
3v1L Schwinn
TT mentions Starbucks several times. JDM mentions people sipping their lattes in his monologue. Port mentioned it in his blog.
Wouldn't it be funny if this was some kind of viral marketing for Starbucks, promoting a new drink? Maybe the "Tarot Chi latte"?