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classical · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:17 pm

Re: The Chat texts

3v1L Schwinn · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:01 pm

The blogs...

Grady Martin · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:48 pm

If anyone playing is a "verifiable instructor" or knows one, you can download Bricker's Instructor's Resource Manual from Pearson Higher Education. Make sure you click on the Download Resources tab - Limmer_IRM_PDF - go for it!

Aki · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:43 pm

Wulf74 wrote:

CptHolly is a nod to recent ARG she played if I remember that right.

She said in her email to me that it was from Watership Down. Big surprise. o_O

Burrito · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:34 pm

This is all so awesomecreepyweird.

I love it.

3v1L Schwinn · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:31 pm

The Chat texts

Grady Martin · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:00 pm

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Wulf74 wrote:

For example - I find it strange that Dr.Starr emailed CptHolly 'apologizing'.

I received the other apologetic email after I announced that I was leaving the game. The email was sent by Maury Kelvin and included Starr's email address as a reply-to. Here is my PM to classical which includes the email and my reply.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

hi classical

to explain yesterday's request

after i posted earlier in this thread that i had become uninterested in this ARG as a result of things i had read at the RI forum, i received an OOG email from Maury Kelvin (if actually OOG, why use the name Maury Kelvin?)

the email concludes with an invitation to communicate further using the email address starr.bernardSPLATyahoo.com

my reply was rather flippant, as you can see

i did not receive a follow-up reply

here is the email, followed by my reply

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Grady,

We are a group of ARG students from California to New Jersey researching the flow of chaotic fiction -- seeing if an open collaboration between PMs and players could actually determine the outcome of a story.

You guys found some serious connections where none actually existed (amazing in and of itself) and in response, we diverted down ever more bizarre paths to try and accomodate the flow.

A challenge that we also encountered was certain members of the ARG forum not posting items exactly as they were sent (for example...no 'M's were left out of that recent e-mail.)

It was never the intention to drive anyone away.

We can also assure you that we are not responsible for the forums related to Kade or anything that he linked you too -- those things that "left a bad taste."

We are very sorry and hope that you do not give up on ARGs. They are truly the future of marketing and entertainment.

If you would like to communicate, please contact starr.bernardSPLATyahoo.com

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Hello Kelvin/Bernard

Kind of you to reach out.

Ooh I love new approaches to marketing. That rawks.

"You guys found some serious connections where none actually existed"
None? Actually? Google is psychedelic, silly rabbit. The data waits in the cloud. A hard rain's a'gonna fall. And so on.

I am skeptical of your assurance that you're not related to anything "Kade" linked to. The Project Moreau story at The Foil Beneath My Hat - http://a08201960a.livejournal.com/ - is an uncanny foreshadowing of some of DeMolay's emails. However, I'll take your word for it.

At least I've been reminded of that great live Lenny Bruce album. You should listen to it. Funny. There are links to the mp3s in the unforum thread.

All Best,
Grady Martin

So, to my twisted way of thinking, the email is IG because it was sent by a character and it includes the email address of a character as a reply-to. FWIW I also think that Kelvin/Starr's "assurance" is disingenuous.

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oh yeah, and could this possibly be relevant -
12/3/97 "Mathew in the Morning" w/Brian Bricker -KXFX 101.7 Santa Rosa, CA
? http://members.tripod.com/~adapa/APPEARANCES
? http://members.tripod.com/~adapa/

Burrito · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:54 pm

We need Schwinn! The log of Eric leaving must be posted!

So to sum up the assumptions here (yes, I know..) Given that Diana's name is "the key", and considering her relationship with the Carters, it's not that far fetched to place her as the creator or administrator of this Oracle project/Brightman Institute.

That would actually make sense on a few different levels.. The Oracle would have indirect access to Brian through his mother. Perhaps why he's been writing this omnipotent novel over the last few years?

syntacticAtrocity · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:36 pm

dibs on classical.

classical · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:45 am

@Wulf: The 'characters emailing dropping players' thing has happened to at least one other person I know of who kinda dropped out of the game. It sounds like she got the same message that aforementioned player did. So I dunno what the PMs are up to, but it is a little odd.

Anyway, I'm fairly certain that William Bricker is Brian Bricker's father and Diana Madden is his mother. Haven't been able to find conclusive proof of this yet, but the ages are right. If anyone catches Bricker around before I do--see if you can get him to talk about his family.

I'd also like to point out:
1997 is the year that Diana Madden died. On February 1st.
1997 is also the year the Brightman Institute came out of retirement, because 1997 is also the year that the Oracle was discovered.

Also, fairly certain the Diana Madden is the Diana in the Hazeltine Report image. Note that she had connections to President Jimmy Carter during his term, and when she fell "ill".

So who really is Diana Madden? And what happened at the Curran with her? I feel like we're spinning in circles all over again.

But I will bet you ten bucks that Jenny also 'died' on February 1st, 1997.

Wulf74 · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:21 am

Aki wrote:

It's all pretty meta, but I emailed CptHolly the other night. I'll post the whole thing here.

TL;DR version

I reached out to her to find out more about her warning off other players (as a new player). She responds in an interesting but ultimately useless wall-o-text of meta info. I ask a couple of questions that she dodges answering.

I don't think it's very important to the story, but there it is for prosperity.

Actually, it sounds like you were able to ask her some better questions than I was, as she definitely dumped a bunch of info in our laps. Nicely done. There are several things in there that she mentioned, that we should be able to start digging into. For example - I find it strange that Dr.Starr emailed CptHolly 'apologizing'. That conversation is going to take some time to go over. Well done!

Deep, Deep wrote:

Sorry if someone found this already: http://thehazeltinereport.blogspot.com/

Quote:

Although we only have one item
It's one you won't want to miss
If you look closely enough
It has two connections to this;
The game that you play
And the game that plays you,
One is very, very real
And unfortunately...the other is too.

Another great find. I have copies of it, just in case Smile

Kyra's Vengeance wrote:

Can someone help me on the timeline here? Did cptholly start on twitter BEFORE the character of Holly gave the clues to BB?

. We are speaking of 2 different Holly's here. CptHolly in a nutshell, is an off again, on again ARG player. But her real name is Pam. CptHolly is a nod to recent ARG she played if I remember that right.
In otherwords - 2 different people. At least according to what CptHolly claims. Smile

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@Classical - holy crap - dunno what else to say. But do we dare talk wife with Bricker next time we see him? He's obviously aware she's no longer around - but to provde proof of her last ticket, with what used to have blood on it... But the question is - what did SHE do - go get a visit from Rage.
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All awesome finds by everyone tonight. I'll get the conversation posted tomorrow.

I'll post as much of the trasncript from yesterday as quick as I can. I won't be in the office till later on in the afternoon, if at all. It was strange that's for certain.

classical · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:07 am

Kyra's Vengeance wrote:

This is very bizarre. I don't understand...how do they know where your parents live?

Because I'm dumb and used, in-game, the email address connected to my portfolio site, which has more than enough personal information on it that could be used to Google the address up.
The funny thing is that they apparently skipped over the fact that my current address is posted on my website, hrr hrr.

Kyra's Vengeance · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:49 am

This is very bizarre. I don't understand...how do they know where your parents live?

classical · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:25 am

I HAS A GOLDEN TIIIIICKET

Kyra's Vengeance · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:57 am

Internet archive only goes back to 2000 on Matthew in the Morning show.

Here is the first one:

http://web.archive.org/web/20000817012909/http://www.matthewinthemorning.com/