[windup angel]

Grady, acknowledged, but we're gonna have to agree to disagree... remember, "keep it between the ditches"... wayback machine's got that Turnage page mentioning bricker archived back in '99 - so it is def not a clue planted for the game. So, it is only "background" if CptHolly is in game, because AFAICT this first comes up in CH's email to Aki.

Given the clue bat the other day, we can (I believe) safely assume that the PMs have not been actively encouraging people to abandon the game. Based on that, we can assume that CptHolly is not in game, and consequently that Turnage is completely "outside of the ditches" (meaning it is neither directly nor indirectly related.)

I could be wrong about that, but before I spend even a second looking at Turnage, I'd need a better argument in favor of Turnage's validity than simply that she "might be relevant" in some unspecified way.

... and digging through obscure underground comics looking for shadows labeled "rage", girls named "Jenny", or "Konig Harbor" sounds like a needle in a haystack. Zilch comes up in google searches for any of that (except what's been spawned off of here). (And I've read more than my share of underground comics in my time, and this rings no specific bells.) If somebody has gone through all the 72-74 Crumb Comics (should start around v8 and go for a few volumes) with no positive ID, I'd recommend abandoning that as outside the ditches also...

[classical]

windup angel wrote:

more edit: Quote: <CS> My life is always strange! I'm still getting hang ups from a phone number in South Dakota. <Wulf> really - do you have the phone#? I had forgotten about that <CS> It's a 605 number and when I google it it goes back to a Tonia something. I've deleted it. <CS> In Rapid City. clue? anybody feel like following up on this right now?

I tried figuring this one out earlier, but all I got for a Tonia in Rapid City was the number of a notorious phone solicitor, heh.

[Grady Martin]

i checked a few volumes of early 70s Complete Crumb last week - nada

there were dozens of active published underground cartoonists in the early 70s - the description given by CptHolly could fit the work of practically any one them

a generous archivist offers his collection online - he's up to G - i've downloaded many of them, with no luck - i've also asked about the comic in question in the comments to the "G" post - no reply - (personal fave - Rory Hayes's Boogeyman Comics - sick)

i have a couple of other queries out - nothing definitive has come back

and again, as far as meta-klews go, while i agree that Turnage herself and the character she portrays in real life are both probably way way OOG, some or all of the material she investigates might be relevant, as could the material prepared by Brian Bricker for the EMT Instructor's Manual, which is available as a free .pdf download to "verifiable instructors", which i am not, but i suppose, for example, an art instructor at a junior college has the credentials required - i'm just sayin'

[windup angel]

OOG

Lyrics to I'm Sorry by Jessica Riddle from Key of A Minor - doubtfully in game, title just happened to have a bunch of keywords that had come up so far (kind of like grady's Lenny Bruce Live at the Curran album), and I needed a laughs.

And speaking of OOG (and laffs), since I started over (the other day) Right From The Beginning, I thought the clue bat (same day) was hilarious cuz of this. At this point, doubtfully in game, and doubtfully of any meaning except to me... but I just fell like sharing some of my laughs at this point...


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edit late Sun afternoon... up to p36, so I'm almost full circle now. Just got to the CptHolly stuff... not sure what to make of it cuz IMO that is 99% oog stuff. Makes me wonder if there are supposed to be "anti-Watchers" (ie, people doing what the Watchers are doing, except not helping us?) Given the "clue bat" the other day, that wouldn't seem to make sense, though. The 1% that seems to maybe be ig is

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Did you know that there was an underground comic book circulating in 1973 (rumored to have been drawn by Robert Crumb but authored anonymously) that featured a full-bodied "Jenny" always being pursued by a shadow labeled "Rage" in a funky little town called (ready for this?) "Konig Harbor."

I think classical & a few other people have followed up on this... this sounds like archetypal Crumb, and it is easy to believe this is true, but again, as with all the Kade-related stuff, "so what?", I'm missing the "so what?" Of course, this really doesn't sound like anybody except Crumb (imo), so it should be pretty easy to verify - Fantagraphics published a multi-volume "Complete Crumb Comics". Somebody just get to a decent comic book store and start looking through the volumes around '73 (say 72-74) for a story like this.

Not sure that that has anything to do with the game, but their might actually be a clue, or meta-clue, there if this actually is true.

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another edit later Sun afternoon... Basically up to where I came in the other day... yay! Will be working on an essay about the game tonight...

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<CS> My life is always strange! I'm still getting hang ups from a phone number in South Dakota. <Wulf> really - do you have the phone#? I had forgotten about that <CS> It's a 605 number and when I google it it goes back to a Tonia something. I've deleted it. <CS> In Rapid City.

clue? anybody feel like following up on this right now?

[Grady Martin]

that's Tony Angeles's version of Twilight Time - beautiful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZocVb_edbs

one of the original Platters was named David Lynch - don't worry - i know that is OOG

[Grady Martin]

ha - this is rich - it's a coincidence, okay - it's only a coincidence

say you're driving from Los Angeles to Hovenweep

the last paved road you're likely to enjoy is U.S. Route 491, which from 1926 to 2003 was known as U.S. Route 666

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and to extend this connection further, The Tower (16) follows The Devil (15) in The Major Arcana

[Tempestdevil]

If anyone is interested.. I don't know if the song itself is relevant at all or not.. I found a crystal clear copy of Twilight Time on youtube.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqUQduCNgK4

[Grady Martin]

the square tower in brightman1.jpg may be a square tower at Hovenweep

http://www.k-state.edu/audubon/archaeoastronomy/square_tower_hovenweep_6938.jpg

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Tower functions are subject to speculation, as they have limited access, contain few windows and many have narrow slots or peepholes placed in the walls. Towers are often linked to a kiva, generally through a tunnel, suggesting they may have been used for ritual functions. The slots and doors of Hovenweep Castle, in Square Tower Group, have been shown to define an apparent solar calendar. The building is aligned so that light is channeled through openings into the building at sunset of the summer solstice, the winter solstice and the spring and fall equinox. The light falls in a predictable pattern on interior door lintals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovenweep_National_Monument

twilight time - this year summer solstice is on June 21 at 05:45 UTC

[classical]

Yo-L wrote:

I just noticed there is an "I" or "1" ( I think it's an " I ") at the left bottom of the black and white "brightman1.jpg". Maybe it's a series?

Seems very probable, especially the source code says to "wait for it here". I'll keep checking it when I remember to...

[xomunkixo]

I knew I remembered something about the native Americans. And they have that sunrise gathering every year. I wonder if that's going to coincide with that Sol theme we had?

For the wiki, I mostly want to see the blogs and contact info for each character on the character pages, but you're probably already doing that classi. Haha.

[Yo-L]

classical wrote:

There have been a few different codes in which we've had to divide by x and then do simple substitution for. Been a different number each time, but the PM seems to be fond of them. We found Bricker's email that way, as well as a code that TT sent us early on. That said, the Hazeltine Report is only as IG as the blog goes, in my opinion. Email address has been confirmed as one of the Watchers, since it did send back that map.

OK. The numbers-code is a good reason to assume that it's a watcher. The use of the map isn't clear yet. And the reply enigma send

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Always

Is still a bit too general for me. But well, I'm just a newbie.

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Did a little wiki updating: [...] other than that, what do people want most on the wiki? I'll try to get to those first.

Hurray for the update! What I would like to see on the wiki:
- A summary of the manuscript (I figured some things out from the character descriptions as well).
- A summary of the story so far, in chronological order (how it has happened, not how we/you found out about it)

These two could be combined of course. They should be pretty short and only contain the essential things (as with all good summaries ).

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It is pretty clear that "Brightman" is Alcatraz. TGATT even mentions the Native American occupation in 1971, which is something that actually happened at Alcatraz.

OK. That sounds plausible. But what to do with that info?
The Brightman got closed, so there is nothing to find there.

I just noticed there is an "I" or "1" ( I think it's an " I ") at the left bottom of the black and white "brightman1.jpg". Maybe it's a series?

[windup angel]

classical wrote:

I am also going back through Hatch's blog posts and the history of the Brightman Institute's building somewhat resembles the history of Alcatraz Prison. Which I only know about because we found that other image earlier today ... ... so maybe Brightman IS Alcatraz?

I just got up to the jumpdrive, and am on p2 of TGATT. It is pretty clear that "Brightman" is Alcatraz. TGATT even mentions the Native American occupation in 1971, which is something that actually happened at Alcatraz.


edit - haha! still reading the jumpdrive, but just really wanted to say I <3 this story!

@Yo-L - still trying to catch up, but I'm agreeing with your list with exception of Hazeltine Report. Port King's blog (TGATT) and Bricker's manuscript (also TGATT) overlap quite a bit so far, but I agree, I don't think it is possible to fully "get" the story w/out reading them. Not everything in the chats so far has been "essential", but if you skip them, you risk skipping important tidbits...

[classical]

There have been a few different codes in which we've had to divide by x and then do simple substitution for. Been a different number each time, but the PM seems to be fond of them. We found Bricker's email that way, as well as a code that TT sent us early on.
That said, the Hazeltine Report is only as IG as the blog goes, in my opinion. Email address has been confirmed as one of the Watchers, since it did send back that map.

And I would definitely recommend reading the manuscripts, for yourself and anyone else lurking. They fill in a lot of blanks and clear up a lot of confusions as far as character roles go.

Did a little wiki updating: other than general cleanup, the Brightman Oracle blog content has been added to the website, as well as that epic cluebat we got the other day, hrr hrr.
I want to do a page for the Curran ticket, as well as start making pages for each character we've had contact with so the conversations with them can be gathered... other than that, what do people want most on the wiki? I'll try to get to those first.

[Yo-L]

O man.

Just lurked myself all the way through. 40 pages is a lot. It took me maybe about 6 hours total to read the whole thread. And then I skipped the manuscripts, original Port King posts and some chats.

I think the wiki needs to be updated though. I might do it some day, but I'll be going in a minute. Real Life calls me.

So yeah, I'm definitely going to participate and/or lurk around.

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And as of about 2min ago - I received this from a Rich Adams(the_45_126_81_63_117_9SPLATyahoo.com). Please keep in mind - that this may not be related to anything here, as the email it was sent too, is used strictly for ARG's, so it may be a trailhead of some sort. If it is - I'll remove it as soon as it's verified). [...] Keep in mind - that neither of these may be related.

I believe there is only 1 reason Whatsoever that "the Hazeltine Report" is IG.
Which is that it coded using the same way: by adding the numbers up to 9's. I can't really recall other InGame codes that had this. Can someone else?


Some other stuff:
_{( I really needed to summarize some things for myself.)}
I believe these things not to be connected to the story (anymore), so they're OOG IMO:
- Hazeltine Report
- Masonry (or whatever it's called)
- Mind Control
- Blake & Duncan
- CptHolly/Holly
- Kade


Can someone tell me if it's necessary to read the entire manuscript? I get the idea that the story is really about that, and not something else.

[classical]

Here's the .mp3 file that was actually playing in the background, plus the Brightman image, just in case they decide to clean the page off now that we've finally found the dang thing.

Also: as Schwinn discovered in the chat, the image looks a helluva lot like the thing Port doodled into his book here. I am also going back through Hatch's blog posts and the history of the Brightman Institute's building somewhat resembles the history of Alcatraz Prison. Which I only know about because we found that other image earlier today ...

... so maybe Brightman IS Alcatraz?