[Wulf74]

Wow - that was some spirited discussion..

Sorry I've been out, no access to the internets the past few days, but I have landed in South Dakota and will at least be able to check in, in the evenings.

Couple of questions:
1) What are we presently working on?
2) Has anyone seen this "proof" that Rage was talking about with the Patriot?

[classical]

windup angel wrote:

the img is brightman2.jpg - which doesn't appear to be live at the moment.

Bahaha, the page loaded for me a second ago, and now it won't. I think we caught the PMs in the middle of an update :B

edit;; here's the image, by the way, since I'm sure it'll change again /back to work ok

[windup angel]

That's all clarified a few things.

And back to the game.

sandleford.html source now says:

Quote:

(!-- trying to stop a frighteningly efficient gamejack - someone is always one step ahead of us - two of six computers have been hacked - only one good defense - stay tuned --)

and the page is now titled "Moving Ever Closer"

swf is now gone & the img is brightman2.jpg - which doesn't appear to be live at the moment.


edit fixed the html tagging in my quote. also:

Quote:

but I think we need to start poking Rage and the Watchers again instead of bickering amongst ourselves

2nd that. and good luck on your finals!

later edit -

source is changed back to "watch for it here". page still titled "Moving Ever Closer", and brightman2.jpg is now live - "but She needs your help"

[classical]

... s-so, uh, getting back to the game ...

I dropped the ticket back into the mailbox today, so we'll see if that address Bricker gave me is even legit.

In the meantime, I made some high-res scans of the ticket and envelope for you guys to..I dunno, pour over how dirty my scanner bed is? :3 I blocked out my address--not that I need it all over the internets any more than it is >_<--which is a shame, because there was a good example of the addressee's handwriting in there. And I really want to note how similar the handwriting is on this envelope to the handwriting in Port's book. Seriously, I don't think this is something the PMs would overlook.

Considering this ticket was either sent by Rage himself or possibly by the Watchers pretending to be Rage, I think we need to reconsider the validity of the book itself here.

To make my case:



Think about it: if Port really did write in that book and send it to Wulf before he got sent to DC, then he also managed to obtain and send this ticket from Santa Rosa. Which, uh... doesn't make sense?

So I dunno what to make of it right now, but I think we need to start poking Rage and the Watchers again instead of bickering amongst ourselves. I'm gonna be absent for a few days here--finals are piling up--but as soon as I get a chance, I'll throw these scans onto the wiki. For now, download 'em here.

[Grady Martin]

it would be nice if Trix was an option on the bfast cereal menu

[uh, meta]

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agreeing to disagree - here's the thing about the vampire kloo bat - if it functions only as you describe (obvious on the face of it) then at that time it was absolutely unnecessary because a general agreement had already been reached to ignore the "unseemly" coincidences that occasionally pop up - another thing about the thing is that it is replete with allusions to another fictional work-in-progress available at various sites - so, to my impure way of thinking, the thing feels more like an introduction rather than an admonishment here's a quote from the email i received from Kelvin/Starr: "We are a group of ARG students from California to New Jersey researching the flow of chaotic fiction -- seeing if an open collaboration between PMs and players could actually determine the outcome of a story." * windup - that quote doesn't fit into your argument that I'm Sorry is nothing more than a glorified sudoku - it's okay with me - play on * of course it will determine the outcome - the quality of the outcome is the thing in question

sync - i resemble that remark

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[Kyra's Vengeance]

windup angel wrote:

not my job...

That, in fact, was my point. Thanks for getting it.

SA: Play nice.

[syntacticAtrocity]

if only you had someone to focus your efforts as was the case 20 forum pages ago.

bunch of ADD-ridden narcissists. =)

[windup angel]

not my job...

[Kyra's Vengeance]

windup angel said:

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I've got a pretty good idea how to solve the italicized puzzle, which is what I'd rather be doing, but instead I find myself having to point out which cans are Jolt and which are Mountain Dew. So, now, I'm just gonna suggest that people read the labels for themselves...

Well I am glad someone knows what is relevant and what is not. I find it confusing. The fact that Brian Bricker is a real person, that Wikipedia is involved...it is all one big soft drink to me.

So since you are our guide, can you tell us if "As a Man Thinketh" is Jolt or Mountain Dew? I ask because I have seen little discussion on that and yet someone put a lot of effort into creating it. Are the bible verses relevant? The underlined passages (egg?)? The photo?

Please save us some time and let us know. Thanks!

[windup angel]

I think that what we have here is a failure to communicate.

The story itself - the actual story from the PMs - the typed pages, Mountain Dew cans and Froot Loops flying out of the RV - is not really all that intricate or confusing... Say "much less confusing than Donnie Darko".

The story only looks confusing to us because other third parties have been dumping trash bags of Super Sugar Crisp and Jolt cans out along the road.

I'm suggesting that, yes, the clue bat actually gives us some litmus test to distinguish between Froot Loops & Super Sugar Crisp, and between Mt Dew & Jolt. Once you get rid of all the Jolt & Super Sugar Crisp, and can see the trail of Froot Loops & Mt Dew, the story is not really that confusing.

Frankly, the puzzles in the game are very straightforward and obvious puzzles. Grab Watership Down, correlate epigrams to chapter numbers, then convert chapter numbers to letters. Easy, pretty much every library & book store in the world will have a copy of Watership Down if somebody playing doesn't already. This was not rocket science. Grady might be right that something on those Turnage pages will be related to some future puzzle. However I suspect that if that is the case - and I already explained posts above why I don't think that is the case - it'll be pretty obvious...

I've got a pretty good idea how to solve the italicized puzzle, which is what I'd rather be doing, but instead I find myself having to point out which cans are Jolt and which are Mountain Dew. So, now, I'm just gonna suggest that people read the labels for themselves...

(edit - fixed bbcode error)

[xomunkixo]

I think most of us agreed that the clue bat was the pms telling us we're getting too caught up in other crap/oog/meta/distractions and not focusing on the obvious stuff that's at hand. Aka, we're getting too distracted.

Then again this story's so rich in distraction it's hard not to. @@

[Grady Martin]

i knew you were going to say that

[windup angel]

Grady Martin wrote:

is anyone here really pickin' up on what they're layin' down?

actually, yes

[Grady Martin]

i don't think we should take too literal a reading of the trucker idiom "keep it between the ditches," which simply means "good luck" or "drive safely" - where exactly are the "ditches" in a text like TGATT or the ambiguous "clue bat" of a few days ago? - we're looking for something in a beater RV full of dancing girls and dudes with typewriters and Dennis Hopper at the wheel? - what does that mean? - is anyone here really pickin' up on what they're layin' down?

so here's something - Brightman Institute of Mental Health is referenced in the Wikipedia article on the Works Progress Administration - here's the diff showing the article pre and post BIMH insertion, which occured on 1/21/09

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on public buildings, including the iconic Dock Street Theater in Charleston, the towering Brightman Institute of Mental Health off of the rocky Northern California coast, and the Timberline Lodge on Oregon's Mt. Hood<ref>[Kennedy, David (1999). ''Freedom From Fear'', pp. 252-253, Oxford University Press, USA</ref>; more than $1 billion on publicly owned or

no wikipedia editors have yet questioned the inclusion of Brightman

i looked inside Freedom From Fear @ amazon - no Brightman of course

[windup angel]

classical wrote:

I tried figuring this one out earlier, but all I got for a Tonia in Rapid City was the number of a notorious phone solicitor, heh.

haha! ok, not a clue - thx!


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who is in charge of the wiki. tried to go in to edit, mostly to fix some typos, and couldn't do anything. do I (userID there = windupangel) need to be approved to make edits or something??? help!