[BlackandBlue]

Thank you for the clarification

[Wulf74]

Re: Not to armchair quarterback but...

[syntacticAtrocity]

following up on TD's theory, there is a third temple of jerusalem, aka the temple mount.

[BlackandBlue]

Not to armchair quarterback but...

[Fanysynthesis]

(sorry for posting so much xD)

^ I googled 小畜 and almost all the results had something to do with prayer sheets. Not really sheets, but more like a paper you get after you pray at a temple and you ask the gods about your luck/future/etc. Something like that? I hope I'm not wrong. xD There's nothing I can find in English, but I looked at images and this one came up:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://imgsrc.baidu.com/baike/pic/item/507c3897046bfc7e55fb96be.jpg&imgrefurl=http://baike.baidu.com/view/483238.html%3FfromTaglist&usg=__ukXwscw_e8uzhJh-9oWyJ5I5gjU=&h=370&w=447&sz=24&hl=en&start=3&sig2=Voy_tXXISh9IspYwRnyJVg&um=1&tbnid=gqZ-L9NefUBTlM:&tbnh=105&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%25E5%25B0%258F%25E7%2595%259C%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=3FJBSsv_O6PutgPb7LCfCQ

That picture with winds and a block of stripes, idk if that's of any use to us.

EDIT:

v Yep, Wulf's brother's friend sent him this email:

(I'm not sure about 卡, 手, 此, 女 because the characters are so hard to read, but the other two I think are right cause that's what I got as well).

Quote:

Mike, I couldn't translate it, so I sent it off to one of they guys I work with in China. Below is his response. Micah, This is an odd photo. I am not sure the meaning determinately. Just a guess, this is a small paper for pray for a child. 卡 康 手 奉 此 女 Should be a girl's name a word means honorific this girl 小畜 The girl's nickname This should be the Chinese culture, or Buddhism, a girl who was just born, but always cried, her eldership just thought the girl might get a scare, then they asked for this paper from shaman, the purpose is to help the baby to get rid of something that are not good for her, and baby could be health and happiness.

[Tempestdevil]

aaaaaalso, on the note of the sheet characters, I googled the "nickname" ones and I found a site about tattoos gone wrong (mostly people who were foolish enough to get the wrong chinese characters tattooed on them), but I came across this:

Quote:

The character on the left 小 means "small", "tiny" or "insignificant", and the other 畜 means "livestock" or "domestic animals". Although in the classic Chinese literature 易經 (I Ching), there is a mentioning about 小畜: Hexagram 9 is named 小畜 , "Small Accumulating". Other variations include "the taming power of the small" and "small harvest". Just what exactly the "small harvest" is about, only "Jeff" would know.

small animals seems right on the money, and it doesn't take much to assume we're talking about rabbits.

[BlackandBlue]

Just a thought on the prayer sheet characters

[Fanysynthesis]

^ Hmm, I googled 21 cubits and found this:

http://books.google.com/books?id=kqB4ZSmemnkC&pg=PA73&lpg=PA73&dq=21+cubits&source=bl&ots=3uGLmTYAxY&sig=s_XODY05zAjCV-qY4p6q2mTfIec&hl=en&ei=S1BBSsDsFYH-sgOHqfT5CA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10

Second paragraph of page 73 mentions that "According to this description, the height of the column and capital together was 21 cubits."

[Tempestdevil]

Okay, I don't know if I posted it here, but masonic structures were brought up and I figured it might be worth a shot. I haven't looked into the 21 cubits, but after me and classical got our PMs, I did some googling. It might be a stretch, but..


classical's number, 150 cubits, turns up the outer court of Solomon's Temple, or the "first" temple of Jerusalem.

Quote:

The outer or "great court" of the Temple (ḥācēr ha-gedhōlāh) opens up more difficult problems. Some regard this court as extending to the East in front of the "inner court"; others think of it as a great enclosure surrounding the "inner court" and stretching perhaps 150 cubits east of the latter.

my number, 60 cubits, turns up the measurements of Herod's Temple, or the "second" temple of Jerusalem.

Quote:

Few details are available regarding this temple of Zerubbabel. It stood on the ancient site, and may have been influenced in parts of its plan by the descriptions of the temple in Ezekiel. Slightly larger than the First Temple (60 cubits high by 60 cubits wide, Ezra 6:3)

I dunno what it means beyond the connections, though.

[syntacticAtrocity]

classical wrote:

syntacticAtrocity wrote: with regards to the perimeter puzzle, i think we are forgetting an important piece of information: the_45_126_81_63_117_9SPLATyahoo.com that is Rich Adams's email address. the 6 digits, preceded by the word "the", are intentional and most likely related to our perimeter dimensions. it's probably worth noting that Rich Adams is the author of watership down. the number sequence is most likely a literary reference from the novel and will give us context surround the perimeter. Already solved way back when the address was first used for the Hazeltine blog--the number chain is the word 'enigma' when translated.

bah. see what happens when you go away for a couple of months.

[classical]

syntacticAtrocity wrote:

with regards to the perimeter puzzle, i think we are forgetting an important piece of information: the_45_126_81_63_117_9SPLATyahoo.com that is Rich Adams's email address. the 6 digits, preceded by the word "the", are intentional and most likely related to our perimeter dimensions. it's probably worth noting that Rich Adams is the author of watership down. the number sequence is most likely a literary reference from the novel and will give us context surround the perimeter.

Already solved way back when the address was first used for the Hazeltine blog--the number chain is the word 'enigma' when translated.

[Fanysynthesis]

^ Oooh, that makes sense! So someone with the book is gonna have to do some digging? Are we supposed to email the email address after we figure out what the cubit measurements stand for though?

Wulf74 wrote:

You gave me a great idea with this, especially referencing Masonry and whatnot again. Depending on which source you use, and which conversion table you utilize, King Solomon's Temple from the Bible works out to this: 120cubits long (180ft) 60cubits wide (90ft) 33.33cubits high (50ft) I'm still looking for the perimeter of the temple for more measurements - but I suspect that's what we're dealing with. Good call Syn.

I googled "150 cubits 60 cubits 21 cubits" and King Solomon's temple came up as well, and Herod's temple. Since you were talking about the measurements of King Solomon's temple I googled it and found this:http://www.cswnet.com/~duxrow/Temple.htg/tempd.gif

I don't know if that's of any help? I'm new to actually figuring out clues in ARGs since I usually lurk, so sorry if this is useless stuff! X___x

[syntacticAtrocity]

with regards to the perimeter puzzle, i think we are forgetting an important piece of information:

the_45_126_81_63_117_9SPLATyahoo.com

that is Rich Adams's email address. the 6 digits, preceded by the word "the", are intentional and most likely related to our perimeter dimensions.

it's probably worth noting that Rich Adams is the author of watership down. the number sequence is most likely a literary reference from the novel and will give us context surround the perimeter.

[Wulf74]

jaeneul wrote:

Ohhh! The way your brother's friend deciphered it actually does make a lot of sense, I was thinking it was some kind of prayer paper as well. Chinese people usually have these prayer papers that are usually burned as to "send" it to whoever has passed away. 小畜 <--- Unless it's supposed to be one word, that's what I got from the characters in the middle as well. So is the clue we have yet to figure out just this Chinese paper? xD

Heh - I was thinking the same thing. As far as being a "key" - I don't see much of an association. But as a prayer for whom I'm assuming (I know they said not to make any more assumptions) is Jenny - it makes sense. Hopefully we'll get something to clarify a bit more since we can't seem to find anyone who can get us a solid interpretation. (hint hint, wink wink, nudge nudge.. - know what I mean?)

[Fanysynthesis]

Ohhh! The way your brother's friend deciphered it actually does make a lot of sense, I was thinking it was some kind of prayer paper as well. Chinese people usually have these prayer papers that are usually burned as to "send" it to whoever has passed away.

小畜 <--- Unless it's supposed to be one word, that's what I got from the characters in the middle as well.

So is the clue we have yet to figure out just this Chinese paper? xD