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posse
howardfairinthegreen is on gchat right now, so let's try to get more info from him...

ETA: Okay I'm going to post my transcript of my chat with howardfairinthegreen -- I'm not sure who I was talking to, but it sure doesn't seem to be Howard Fair:

Quote:
me: Hello Howard, is everything all right?
Sent at 10:21 AM on Monday
howardfairinthegreen: [error]
me: Twinkle twinkle little star, how I wonder what you are
Sent at 10:24 AM on Monday
howardfairinthegreen: [error] VGhvdWdoIEkga25vdyBub3Qgd2hhdCB5b3UgYXJl [error]
Sent at 10:25 AM on Monday
me: I know not what you are, either. What has happened?
Sent at 10:28 AM on Monday
howardfairinthegreen: [error] SGUgY291bGQgbm90IHNlZSB3aGljaCB3YXkgdG8gZ28= [error]
Sent at 10:30 AM on Monday
me: We may have figured that out but Howard disappeared before we could ask him more questions about the parchment.
Is there a way to find him now?
Sent at 10:32 AM on Monday
howardfairinthegreen: [error] V2hlbiB0aGUgYmxhemluZyBzdW4gaXMgZ29uZSxncmUNCldoZW4gaGUgbm
90aGluZyBzaGluZXMgdXBvbixlbg0KVGhlbiB5b3Ugc2hvdyB5b3VyIGxpdHRs
ZSBsaWdodCx3aQ0KVHdpbmtsZSwgdHdpbmtsZSwgYWxsIHRoZSBuaWdod
C5jaA== [error]
Sent at 10:34 AM on Monday
me: I may not understand about Greenwich, but I will try to help. Is there anything else I can do or that I need to know?
Sent at 10:40 AM on Monday
howardfairinthegreen: [error] help me help him do not let him study [error - server rebooting]

Right after the last response, he went offline.

FYI the coded bits:
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Base64 again, his responses were the following:
Though I know not what you are

He could not see which way to go

When the blazing sun is gone,gre
When he nothing shines upon,en
Then you show your little light,wi
Twinkle, twinkle, all the night.ch

Which, by the way, all turned out to be lines from Twinkle Twinkle Little Star


Still not sure what to do with this info now, but fun stuff!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:29 am
JehosephatDostoevsky
ooooh, awesome job. no idea where that leads us to particularly. only thing i know about 'twinkle twinkle' is it was actually mozart's first ever piece, that melody & a series of variations on it. probably of no use whatsoever, but that's the only thing i know about 'twinkle'. that, and it's the same tune for 'baa baa black sheep'

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:25 am
posse
New email

Hi, been lurking for a while but also been receiving the same emails from howardfairinthegreenSPLATgmail.com.

Got a new email today after I replied to the automated email response from Dr Geraint Clyme over the weekend (note: had to add some newlines here so the forum post wouldn't go haywire, sorry):

Quote:
[error]
MDEwMDAwMTEgMDEwMDAwMTEgMDEwMDAxMTEgMDEwMDAxMTEgMDEwMDAwMDEg
MDEwMDAwMDEgMDEwMDAxMTEgMDAwMDExMDEgMDAwMDEwMTAgMDEwMDAxMTAg
MDEwMDAxMTAgMDEwMDAxMDEgMDEwMDAxMDEgMDEwMDAxMDAgMDEwMDAxMDAg
MDEwMDAwMTEgMDAwMDExMDEgMDAwMDEwMTAgMDEwMDAxMTEgMDEwMDAxMTEg
MDEwMDAxMTAgMDEwMDAxMTAgMDEwMDAxMDEgMDEwMDAxMDEgMDEwMDAxMDAg
MDAwMDExMDEgMDAwMDEwMTAgMDEwMDAxMTEgMDEwMDAxMTEgMDEwMDAxMTAg
MDEwMDAxMTAgMDEwMDAxMDEgMDEwMDAxMDEgMDEwMDAxMDAgMDAwMDExMDEg
MDAwMDEwMTAgMDEwMDAwMTEgMDEwMDAwMTEgMDEwMDAxMTEgMDEwMDAxMTEg
MDEwMDAwMDEgMDEwMDAwMDEgMDEwMDAxMTEgMDAwMDExMDEgMDAwMDEwMTAg
MDEwMDAxMTAgMDEwMDAxMTAgMDEwMDAxMDEgMDEwMDAxMDEgMDEwMDAxMDAg
MDEwMDAxMDAgMDEwMDAwMTE=
[error]


So far I've gotten:
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Base64 decoded to binary which decodes to:
CCGGAAG
FFEEDDC
GGFFEED
GGFFEED
CCGGAAG
FFEEDDC

Which are the musical notes to Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.


Where to from here?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:15 am
draghkar
I sent a reply, and got the folllowing:

Quote:
---
This electronic mail response has been generated due to the British
Library Section O employee **Howard Fair** being unable to personally
respond.
Please do not send any future mail until this employee contacts you.
Thank you.

Dr Geraint Clyme, head of investigations.
---


We got a new character it seems..

edit
Interesting thing, and probably OOG Dr Geraint Clyme is an anagram for
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Tired Clergyman


Sent a reply to howards mailbox

Quote:
Dear Dr Geraint Clyme,

I am sure this messages reaches you, since you seem to be monitoring this account..

Please let me know what is going in with Howard, I am one of his researchers, and am slightly worried reading your message.

I hope to hear from you soon..

Draghkar

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:36 am
JehosephatDostoevsky
I got an e-mail error too, very weird...

But one thing I noticed. Draghkar, I don't know about you, but the e-mail I received was actually sent from Howard to Howard, and I was BCC'd in. Why would it be sent like that? Is Howard trying to communicate with himself or something?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:21 am
draghkar
got 2 emails from Howard, both saying [error]..

What is going on...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:28 am
reesylou
JehosephatDostoevsky wrote:
reesylou wrote:

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finding he with the
fourth letter as his name
the entrance to the green
located by the church of
the same. mother to son.
mortality to immortality.
come when the sun shines
longest at the time.
?e loi?g tying.





Theory I'm going to throw out here:

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the fourth letter of the alphabet is 'D'. Or, sounding it out, Dee... as in John Dee, the famous Elizabethan mathematician and magician? From the wiki page about him: "Dee straddled the worlds of science and magic just as they were becoming distinguishable"


Ahh. Good one! That explains the alchemical symbol.
Now we have links to Sacred Geometry and the Knight's Templar:
http://www.templarmechanics.com/templar_detail.asp?templarid=33

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:26 am
JehosephatDostoevsky
reesylou wrote:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
finding he with the
fourth letter as his name
the entrance to the green
located by the church of
the same. mother to son.
mortality to immortality.
come when the sun shines
longest at the time.
?e loi?g tying.





Theory I'm going to throw out here:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
the fourth letter of the alphabet is 'D'. Or, sounding it out, Dee... as in John Dee, the famous Elizabethan mathematician and magician? From the wiki page about him: "Dee straddled the worlds of science and magic just as they were becoming distinguishable"

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:12 am
draghkar
I was thinking a vignere, due to the randomness of characters.. but no luck so far.. can we make out the text fully? its ROT-3

I have sent a mail to howard asking if he has a UV light to get a better show of the text, but in the meantime we need to work with what we have..

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:57 am
reesylou
Attempted to get what letters I could from the parchment... some of them are tricky to distinguish because of the script used (for example b/h, i/j). Others are tricky because of the coloration.

What I have extracted is:
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cfkafkd eb tfqe qeb
clroqe ibqqbo xp efp kxjb
qeb bkqoxkzb ql qeb dobbk
ilzxqba yv qeb zeroze lc
qeb pxjb. jlqebo ql plk.
jloqxifqv ql fjjloqxifqv.
zljb tebk qeb prk pefkbp
ilkdbpq xq qeb qfjb.
?b ilf?d qvfkd.


Which is a rot (23 I think) of:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
finding he with the
fourth letter as his name
the entrance to the green
located by the church of
the same. mother to son.
mortality to immortality.
come when the sun shines
longest at the time.
?e loi?g tying.


Not sure about the last line, too hard to read.

I couldn't locate anything matching this, hopefully others have more luck.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:52 am
JehosephatDostoevsky
It's the symbol for mercury. Minz, genius idea on the cyan & magenta thing. I got the e-mail too, I zoomed in on the jpg file and you can definitely see the letters don't need to be rotated or anything, they're written forward but they don't seem to make any sense. I saw "geb" in there, so thought it might be needed to be read backwards, but other words appear to be random, such as "bixb" or "fiiloqxifqu (or v)" which to me suggests some kind of code

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:04 am
Xerorex
Oh, sorry for the double post. That's also Venus' symbol on the right? Maybe Uranus? I know it belonged to one of the planets/greek god.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:31 am
Xerorex
Minz wrote:
Well, concerning the parchment, there is some text blended into it. If it is a scan of invisible ink, we should tell Howard to try and heat it up or look at it under UV light.
If that is not an option, there is always photoshop =)
Ramping up the contrast on the Cyan and Magenta channels, I got this :


What I would say to this is try flipping the picture on certain axis. It may have been written backwards or upside down. Sort of how Da Vinci wrote it.


Also, when I ran the library error code through Base64, I got this:

"save him save me do not let them catch himsave him save me do not let them catch him"

I'll see what else I can pick up soon. Sorry that I wasn't logged in. In a hurry at the moment. :p

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:29 am
Minz
Well, concerning the parchment, there is some text blended into it. If it is a scan of invisible ink, we should tell Howard to try and heat it up or look at it under UV light.
If that is not an option, there is always photoshop =)
Ramping up the contrast on the Cyan and Magenta channels, I got this :
parchment_text_c.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   733.6KB
    60 Time(s)

Unfortunately, this file is no longer in our archives.


PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:11 am
draghkar
got the same message... possibly the missing letters give a keyword?? spell out
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eyeshere


Also got into a chat with howard:

Quote:

Howard: Are you there?
Hello??
draghkar...
Sent at 11:43 PM on Wednesday
Howard: hello??
computer hot here
me: hello, just came back home, went to a concert
Howard: just sent you mail
in library using my designated old scanner - very old...
me: I see thank you..
Howard: what concert?
me: Iron maiden..
Howard: ah metal...
me: I like their sound, its like magic when they play
Howard: society in its rawest form
so quiet here
not allowed music in this area
me: where are you at now then? the library?
Howard: yes
please read my message well - things are getting busy
despite it being quiet
me: I will do so..
Howard: share this with everyone as well, this missive as well as
me: how was your trip?
I will definitely do that, dont worry
Howard: [server error. Library contact server reboot operating.]
me: what is wrong with the library computer?
Howard: [[[[[[[c2F2ZSBoaW0gc2F2ZSBtZSBkbyBub3QgbGV0IHRoZW0gY2F0Y2ggaGlt c2F2ZSBoaW0gc2F2ZSBtZSBkbyBub3QgbGV0IHRoZW0gY2F0Y2ggaGlt]]]]]]]]
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:46 am
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