'In my own heart the anxiety that preyed there and entered with seeming earnestness ' best describes my last conversation with Father...
Quote:
He gave me instructions on a time when I would be found alone - I feel that this may be this time... How do I contact the Intueor though...?
The quote is from Frankenstein, beginning of chapter 22. In the context of the book, it was referring to the preparations for the wedding.
Intueor actually means to gaze at, look upon, observe, or even guard. In this context, I believe he is referring to someone in particular who does these things.
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:01 pm
Lystella
I'm not exactly sure of the picture's meaning either, but in terms of the binary, I think there might be a typo.
Now that it's been found, what next? I have no clue what to do with either the picture or binary. In case you couldn't tell, I have a hard time with puzzles without any hints
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:19 pm
Lystella
inkflamewriter wrote:
How did you get that?
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
BtI in hex yields "42 74 49" in Hex and "SQ==" in Base64. The additional information that the green gave said that "I" also yielded "SQIE", so translating "SQIE" from Base64 to Hex gives "49 02 04". Combine that with the unfinished Hex from BtI, you get "42 74 49 02 04". Make that into a number string with no spaces and look up on the friendly search engine to find a photohosting site we're familiar with ^_^
My headache has faded for now - but during I realised that one leads to the next to the next. what is BtI in hex? Something to do with 10...
BtI in hex is only seven numbers, so I really don't get the connection here.
Edit: Mentioned to him in response to his tweet. I then got two DMs. Well, three, but only two showed up in email. I can't read them on Twitter, apparently, because he's not following me. Here they are:
Quote:
OOG the green sent out a message about missing bit of info on the 'I' - it'll take a bit more work but you should get ten numbers...
OOG this PM is sorry this one didn't work out so well - given the next step for you all... sorry to all players... PM
I made that first connection with the email, but that was about it. I'm kinda interested now to know how it was supposed to work. Anyway, here's the next step:
Wow...fail on my part. I spent the better part of yesterday evening reading through all three threads from the beginning and never saw it
Anyway, I have no clue with the "I", but I do know that "Bt" is an abbreviation for Baronet. There are an overwhelming number of things that "I" is the abbreviation for, but at least there's a possible first half.
Edit: I just looked at the last email I received again:
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Interesting - the loss of Forest's Father has created gaps in Forest's memory and thought patterning as well.
While we are not concerned with the thoughts of man per se, we thought you mind find these lost snippets of use:
The 'I' of the BtI that he was deliberating on is incomplete - 'I' contains much more information that becomes invisible when translated into something else.
For example, with quartz and fibre cable manipulations, I arranged on a chess board becomes SQIE rather than SQ==
Of course - man chose 0s and 1s for his computer devices being a linear creature - nature favours a more honey-sweet pattern...
The Watchman
The part I put in bold is the important part. SQ== is base64 for "I". I think we might have something if we could figure out how "I arranged on a chessboard becomes SQIE".
Also with this:
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error hex error around error symbols error translate error error error again again again error numbers error ten error x x x x x x x x x x
Otherwise seen as:
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hex around symbols translate again again again numbers ten
When we find the hex code, I bet it'll be a triple layer code. Based on the "xxxxxxxxxx" at the end (I counted ten), we're looking for a sequence of ten numbers...
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:19 am
punxtr
I already solved the Morse. Check several posts back, or I solved it in the other thread.
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:16 am
inkflamewriter
Very well written
I haven't found anything on BtI, however I was attempting to translate the morse code that runs throughout the NLE Tractors video...will try again when I'm not fuzzy-headed from lack of sleep.
Also, a couple pages back, we found capitalized letters in two different messages, GESRS and ECNAVBH. Could they still have significance? Just trying to tie up some loose ends.
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:32 am
pia ward
Here is my reasoning for choosing both Father and Forest so I will amend (since it now seems we can?????) depending on the outcome of what BtI means.
Quote:
On 8 September 2011 18:27, <piaward> wrote:
> Watchman,
>
> You have asked whether the child-golem should pay for the sins of Father. In
> an ideal world the answer would be no. Why should should the innocent pay
> the price for what the guilty have done?
>
> But we do not live in an ideal world and experience shows that children do,
> time after time, suffer the consequences of their parents unthinking and at
> times malicious actions. This is terribly unfair especially since the guilty
> enjoy the fruits of their "crimes" and for the most part die a peaceful
> death without being punished - even by their own conscience - for what they
> did.
>
> So I am going to choose what appears to be the lesser of two evils.
>
> As I have argued before, Forest is like the "robin red-breast in a cage"
> that Blake spoke of. I suppose because he is a golem that is why he is
> unnaturally attached to Father in that way. I don't see how he can live a
> normal life however - which is what he himself has expressed he wants -
> until that link is severed.
>
> When you told me not to presume your actions I in fact thought that Father's
> disappearance was a test by Father to start helping Forest with that process
> of learning to exist separately from him the way human fathers and sons do.
> This anyway is what I would ordinarily advocate for.
>
> But severing that link in this case appears rather dangerous to me. He is a
> golem and if he gets angry about this (which, to me, would be perfectly
> understandable) he could create a great deal of destruction due to being so
> unjustly separated from his Father. No one except Father appears to be able
> to control him so this scenario would only lead to his eventual destruction
> by the green anyway.
>
> And severing that link before Father explains to him why he created him and
> for what purpose seems to be unusually cruel. Forest has from the begining
> been confused about his role and place in the world and destroying Father
> prematurely in this manner would result in an end to any possibility of
> understanding what this is.
>
> I am confused about Father. But time and time again I seemed to have been
> wrong about his intentions towards Forest. He created him out of various
> body parts of soldiers which is alarming, but then he used the mind of a
> WWII hero who was a champion of the weak to serve as his reasoning
> faculties. If Father intended to create a purely vicious being then I am
> sure he would've used the brain of a dead Nazi.
>
> At the very least too, allowing Father to live with enable him to explain
> the situation he has put Forest in, and some measure of justice can be
> accomplished in this particular case. The son will perhaps understand why he
> is being punished for the sin of his Father. Children can forgive their
> parents for the most unimaginable cruelties and find the courage to bear the
> consequences if their parent gives them an opportunity to do so by
> explaining to them the reasoning behind their actions however ill-conceived
> or thoughtless.
>
> Pia
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:59 pm
ddl
I believe it is our decision. The information given is there to allow us to make an educated choice. I for one, am still questioning what choice to make...
Until we figure out BtI, I am concerned about sending my choice. I have limited internet access now, but will use what I have to try and figure it out.
About the quote: This seems to be Victor's last moment of peace. IIRC, Elizabeth dies shortly after this event.
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:24 am
inkflamewriter
My first instinct would be to say that it gives us additional background, but they are definitely pushing us toward the other choice...I don't know
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:17 am
Lystella
inkflamewriter wrote:
Thoughts?
There's one thing I'm not sure about: Are we to choose the choice that the clues point us towards, or are the clues here to provide alternate perspectives, background, etc. that would aid us in making our own decision?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:16 pm
I am thoroughly amazed...
