[SevenSonicStructures]

I guess I'm just frustrated that it took us so long to figure out something we had in front of our eyes, had this been something more obvious like deciphering a blurry barcode or a morse code sequence, I wouldn't be as bothered, since it's less "random". But whatever.

While reading the Orion wiki page, I saw this:

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The Bible mentions Orion three times, naming it "Kesil" (כסיל, literally - fool. Though, this name perhaps is etymologically connected with "Kislev", the name for the ninth month of the Hebrew calendar (i.e. November-December), which, in turn, may derive from the Hebrew root K-S-L as in the words "kesel, kisla" (כֵּסֶל ,כִּסְלָה, hope, positiveness), i.e. hope for winter rains.): Job 9:9 ("He is the maker of the Bear and Orion"), Job 38:31 ("Can you loosen Orion`s belt?"), and Amos 5:8 ("He who made the Pleiades and Orion"). In ancient Aram, the constellation was known as Nephîlā′, the Nephilim may have been Orion's descendants.[19]

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"Nephilim" (נְפִילִים) probably derives from the Hebrew root npl (נָפַל), "to fall" which also includes "to cause to fall" and "to kill, to ruin". The Brown-Driver-Briggs Lexicon gives the meaning as "giants"[1]

Giant men from the sky, interesting.

@THEREALOWINN: The only problem is that the password was capitalized. I guess it was overlooked because it was tried, but nobody thought about trying all of these passwords in lowercase.

[iRobotZombie]

wow, that is quite unfortunate XD

[THEREALOWINN]

Original poster is Dravenz

Dravenz wrote:

Hopefully there is an update. Hopefully it will provide a detail to allow us to narrow our search for the elusive password. Some of the ones I have tried with case variations in both eridu and 245409 versions of the login are below: TellAbuShahrain Tell Abu Shahrain Tell_Abu_Shahrain Eridu Mesopotamia prometheus David David1 David2 David3 David4 David5 David6 David7 David8 30.815839 (coordinates of Erudu) 45.996069 (coordinates of Erudu) 30.815839,45.996069 (coordinates of Erudu) Orion seven HD245409 245409 Sumeria LV426 LV-426 admin Admin Administrator administrator password 7sisters 7pillars bishop ash SAR245409 (Chemical used for Cancer treatment) XL765 (Chemical used for Cancer treatment) XL-765 (Chemical used for Cancer treatment) NOTE: The cancer treatment ones were out of desperation as nothing else was working and the timeline said he cured cancer. It was a stretch but was worth a try lol.

[THEREALOWINN]

THEREALOWINN wrote:

Okay I'll list what I've tried I'll keep adding as I go Eridu Mesopotamia Orion CosmicCall God Abzu Atlas extinguish fist peter SPW pleiades sevensisters sevenpillars 7sisters 7pillars starman evolve evolution bowie taurus eyeoforion H2O Water River Stream Lawrence TELawrence Fire parasite Titan Olympian Olympic Chariot Archeron LV426 Alien Mother Father Sister Brother King Queen Prince Princess Sumerian Sumeria Iraq Iran Babylon Babel Towerofbabel Zeus Bellyofthebeast Snake Serpent Life Death Trinity Eridanus Reticulum 7 seven 777 sevensevenseven seventhheaven heaven hell se7ven Foxsucks codes entered by others on the board 0560-09797 isle of skye Eilean a' Cheò david david 5 David 8 559 7996 eagle nebula m16 Pillars of Creation LV-426 Zeta 2 Archeron Acheron TellAbuShahrain Tell Abu Shahrain Tell_Abu_Shahrain Eridu Mesopotamia prometheus David David1 David2 David3 David4 David5 David6 David7 David8 30.815839 (coordinates of Erudu) 45.996069 (coordinates of Erudu) 30.815839,45.996069 (coordinates of Erudu) Orion seven HD245409 245409 Sumeria LV426 LV-426 admin Admin Administrator administrator password 7sisters 7pillars bishop ash SAR245409 (Chemical used for Cancer treatment) XL765 (Chemical used for Cancer treatment) XL-765 (Chemical used for Cancer treatment)

PAGE 29! IT's THERE! The page after contains the original poster. This is quite unfair.

[iRobotZombie]

Keeping it short and sweet, people should realise its a team effort before they copy & paste answers to PMs with the sole recognition in mind. I really really love this forum and I just can't stand cheaty people

[Dravenz]

Another name HD 245409 is known by:

V2689 Ori (K7 class star - Yep 7s again)

Not much help unfortunately as I have entered:

Ori
ori
ORI

etc....

V2689
v2689

And multiple case options for a mixture of the 2 (both Ori first and V2689 first).

[morph1138]

thebruce wrote:

ah, credit drama... there's no way to know, on the PM side, who actually produced any successful solution apart from tracking the first hit tied to a user. Beyond that, who's idea was it? I think for twitter, Movielord may have been the first to tweet it. PMs tread some potentially controversial ground when rewarding "solvers" with credit... and the community makes their own angst by desiring credit IMO, community should determine for themselves, if they desire, who gets credit, if there's no incontrovertible way to determine it. For puzzles even, what if two people on two forums come up with the right answer independently? Who gets credit? Now if the site gave people unique logins, then you could put in the solution, then they'd know at least who provided the correct answer first, and that'll tend to be the one who solved it (else how would they know?). But PP.com is anonymous access... so.. ...don't make big drama over getting credit. Everyone works as a team, so applaud whoever had a hand in it should be congratulated to whatever degree; that's the best way, imo. /soapbox

I want to be clear I don't care about credit or anything else. I was just a little pissy that I'd already tried it but on the 245409 site because the eridu one would give me weird error messages and wouldn't load last night. I'm also more than a little frustrated because I never kept track of which codes I put in which page since I've had so much trouble loading them. This ARG is actually more frustrating than fun right now.

[Yoko99]

Anyway, yeah, I agree with you, thebruce, the important is playing, and having fun all together.
I was asking about contacting PM afterwards not so much about the credit they gave, but really to try and understand what they had in mind for us.

[Yoko99]

In one myth, Orion fell in love with the Pleiades, the seven sisters, daughters of Atlas and Pleione. He started pursuing them and Zeus scooped them up and placed them in the sky. The Pleiades are represented by the famous star cluster of the same name, located in the constellation Taurus. Orion can still be seen chasing the sisters across the sky at night.

We may have to dig deeper into the Orion-Pleiades relationship.

First of all, should we make certain assumptions for the next pw?
Not written in stone, obviously but I would favor using mostly lower case and spaces from now on... mostly.

Also, what do you guys think, the url was eridu, a city, the pass was again, a city

Now we have a star, should we be looking for a star?

[SevenSonicStructures]

Yoko99 wrote:

They hinted about Weyland, the Pleiades... that's probably for the 245409 part seven, seven, seven...

Yeah, I think those clues weren't meant to be used at /eridu, now that I think about it. It just doesn't make sense.
Something about Seven associated to Orion? According to WIkipedia, there are 7 main stars in Orion:

Betelgeuse
Rigel
Bellatrix
Mintaka
Alnilam
Alnitak
Saiph

Those with 7 characters int their names are Mintaka, Alnilam and Alnitak.

[thebruce]

ah, credit drama... there's no way to know, on the PM side, who actually produced any successful solution apart from tracking the first hit tied to a user. Beyond that, who's idea was it? I think for twitter, Movielord may have been the first to tweet it. PMs tread some potentially controversial ground when rewarding "solvers" with credit... and the community makes their own angst by desiring credit IMO, community should determine for themselves, if they desire, who gets credit, if there's no incontrovertible way to determine it. For puzzles even, what if two people on two forums come up with the right answer independently? Who gets credit?
Now if the site gave people unique logins, then you could put in the solution, then they'd know at least who provided the correct answer first, and that'll tend to be the one who solved it (else how would they know?). But PP.com is anonymous access... so..

...don't make big drama over getting credit. Everyone works as a team, so applaud whoever had a hand in it should be congratulated to whatever degree; that's the best way, imo.

/soapbox

[Yoko99]

Do PM's usually come and tell us what they were thinking when ARG's end?

I wonder if we were supposed to be at the eridu part already.
If we were'nt, apart from trying random names from the trailer as directories for the url (kudos SSS), where was it supposed to have come to us from?

They hinted about Weyland, the Pleiades... that's probably for the 245409 part
seven, seven, seven...

[bigsugad]

SevenSonicStructures wrote:

m0r1arty wrote: If it's the case that it's locked out until they decide to open it then there is no point playing any more. -m0r Maybe. Or, think about it. How did we even land into /eridu? It was merely a coincidence, not a real lead. Until then, /245409 was our only clue. Maybe we ended up there sooner than they expected. Also I always type the passwords in lowercase, but I don't remember trying "Tell Abu Shahrain". I mostly focused on Sumerian words for constellations and gods. The closest I got to that name was with Shamash, which was a good lead to me, but it didn't work. I got the Winged Sun picture from pages ago based on that lead.

Playing previous args (mainly TLE) there would be a drip feed off info/access on a weekly basis and sometimes longer. They want to dangle that carrot for as long as possible, better to be harder and keep you interested than it to be easy and over in weeks. (lets face it release of the movie is still several months away)

[iRobotZombie]

He got a pat on the back for copying and pasting the URL from this post, to Prometheus twitter account for the Morse Code image puzzle too.

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[Melodyman]

Crikey. Now we have to go back and try all those passwords again this time putting spaces in.
Holy *)(&^$&^&**)