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DelVillan.
Mason, I don't think this one is a normal cryptogram. It looks to be, because of some repeated letter combinations, but we don't know that. I spent quite a while on it last night, and it turns out that the _pp_______ word is just about nonexistent. "L" would have to equal "A" or "I" due to the single letter word earlier, so it'd either be "app________a_" or "ipp________i_." Which just doesn't exist.

Also, I'm not sure U=T. If it's because of the "UX" word, it's not definite, because that could also be "go," "so," "no," etc.

Many ciphers use other words or algorithms as bases when they're made. I think that "raven francis rabbit" and the cube root of pi have something to do with that. Else, why would we be given words we're already familiar with?

Also, there are a -lot- of long words here. Either this guy is using nearly straight science-jargon, this is a cipher and not a cryptogram, the cryptogram has dummy letters, or we're not even really dealing with words in our language.

ETA: If this is the file Eric has been waiting on, I'm sure he'll be able to give us some insight. Not to say that I want to wait around or that we should, but we might have to go that route. Because Eric and I aren't in contact, can anyone else email him and see what he knows about the cipher?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:58 am
Mason
So... it's a code.

Here's what I gathered in the last 2mins of looking at it.

X = O
C = P
U = T

Based on the first 4 characters being "6op 1"

And on that basis, the word that is probably the easiest to get (because of no repeat letters and double P):
LCCENOZLY
_ pp _ _ _ _ _ _

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:07 am
godson2k7
so anyone look into that file yet? Opening it in wordpad gives:

Quote:
6XC 1 GAENOFYL AENOT L IYXDC. URTHGIEZK LYZ
ZNEVESB-IXJXISZYQOZQU XHOWTHAWALGT, TWAROUFZQUATUT LQE
URZEERHTXGXIALQT. URENOZK LCCENOZLY UX FTHGIEZ
YROUFZTDYHLWAOWTQI.


raven
francis
rabbit


note that the bold character doesn't display the same here. It shows that the font is AppleSymbols while the rest in Times-Roman

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:30 am
Scribe
Sorry for the double post... Just noting that the author of the RTF is "Palmer" and the comment is "You are not expected to find it." Kloo?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:22 pm
Scribe
Bah. I'm away for 2 weeks now, but mason said I could post this IM chat he had with AA3:

Quote:

Scorpio... says:
AA3, can I help you?

The bright light says:
in the coming days perhaps
i've found a moment to catch my breath
and enjoy the ...
miracle of life.

Scorpio... says:
I see, how intriguing.
Whats in the file?

The bright light says:
not accessible - for me - sorry
all I have is heresay

Scorpio... says:
And what's the hearsay?

The bright light says:
I hear the big story is wrong

Scorpio... says:
Oh really? Big story?

The bright light says:
really.
and I trust my sources...
but you will have to confirm
like I said, I can't access it as I'm carrying it in an unusual way.

Scorpio... says:
Who are your sources?

The bright light says:
My sources RIP

Scorpio... says:
AA1/AA2?

The bright light says:
intramuscular flash drive

Scorpio... says:
That sounds complicated

The bright light says:
no, very simple
and crude
and uncomfortable
our...operation...didn't have the big budget, like they do.

Scorpio... says:
Who is 'they'

The bright light says:
I wish it were that simple
but its not

Scorpio... says:
Do you have any other contacts?

The bright light says:
outside of you? Razz
my contacts have been systematically taken off-line
which was obviously their plan for me, as well

Scorpio... says:
Where does Eric fit into all this?

The bright light says:
but I had other plans, and means.
Eric is a pawn, like the rest of us subjects
I assume.

Scorpio... says:
But whose pawn is he?
On your side, or "their" side?

The bright light says:
I doubt he could even answer that with any amount of assurance

Scorpio... says:
Interesting
c2c2?

The bright light says:
I find it interesting as well
perhaps we are more black & white-type people, you and I.

Scorpio... says:
Perhaps so

The bright light says:
I think Eric is more comfortable in the gray
or perhaps he is colour blind.

Scorpio... says:
Perhaps he is.
Do you know Nick?

The bright light says:
I have no living contact by that name.
I should go.

Scorpio... says:
What about a disposed contact?

The bright light says:
I think I'm starting to burn

Scorpio... says:
Was Nick AA1/AA2?

The bright light says:
1:52 is a great time for a margarita, don't you think?
cheerio

Scorpio... says:
I agree. Enjoy.

The bright light says:
keep your eyes peeled
figuratively, of course


Kind of confirms one suspicion I had anyway - the human genetic code is
actually a "code", probably created by "them"/c2c2. "Intramuscular flash drive" means that we're all storing something, somehow, which means someone's placed it there. And Nick suggested that any of us could be the rabbit when I bumped into him the other day.

From that, I'd assume that references to "heresay" and "the big story"
refer either to humans as being created by God (heresay being half
heresy) or humans evolving naturally. If we've been created
deliberately, I'd assume the "big story" that's wrong is evolution, and
"heresay" (i.e. against what people believe) is some kind of
"intelligent design".

Not sure if the references to Margaritas and black/white/grey/colour-blind mean anything more specific. I remember Stuart Munro saying stuff about colours too, so there's potentially something in that.

Anyway, don't solve everything before I'm back Wink Goodest luck!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:35 pm
bellymonster
Ok, so I've just had an email from AA3, simply entitled 'Disseminate.' Text below:

Aulus Agerius wrote:

Hopefully you will know what to do with this, if not, maybe Eric will. I still don't know what's in this, but I do know that certain people paid a heavy personal price so that I would have the chance to pass it on.

My 'vacation' has turned sour. Time to find a different beach with a different language.

AA3



and containing an rtf file attached below:
6op1libra-1.rtf
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:32 pm
Scribe
6op1wiki now password protected

OK, I'll bite. Eric's GTalk status says "Ignore security and it will go away", but in this case I've decided to add extra security in. The 6op1wiki at my site is now password protected, as I'm not certain if it's being monitored by Eric/AA3/them.

However, as I'm certain that unfiction is off-limits to them*, I figure posting the log-in here is ok Smile

Username: genepool
Password: codeacug
(URL: http://www.exmosis.net/6op1wiki/)

You'll obviously still need a log-in for the wiki in order to make changes. But at least this way we can control who has access to the data and thoughts we're collecting. (Info war time... I love the smell of dumpster divers in the morning.)

Will link to this post from the "failed log-in" page.

* following the forum rules, and Eric's ignorance of what we've said here.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:11 pm
DelVillan.
Mason, keep in mind that just sending mail to a character doesn't guarantee that you'll receive helpful information, or a reply at all. :) I've accepted that Eric doesn't mail me in reply, probably because I started much later than Mason/Scribe.

Regardless, I do try to assist in what ways I can. But, I can't do even the small things without information, and the only source of information we have is Eric's mail, unfortunately.

Simply put, it's my opinion that any information should be open, in whatever way people agree on. An ARG should be a drama-free team effort, and information sent through email is just as valuable as solving a puzzle. If the solution to puzzles weren't posted, everyone else would be at a loss. It's the same situation here, except we won't even be able to find the puzzle.

Still, it is entirely your decision, Mason, on where the line is drawn.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:05 pm
Scribe
An intriguing situation, of course Smile To keep things amicable (which, I think, is the best way of solving things - that is, as a group), but in order to keep the plot going, I'd recommend being *careful* about what information you post where. My own checklist currently is:

1. I'm trying to post personal info as little as possible, unless I'm sure it's in-game, or for some reason I can't chase it up. Part of this is just because I'm not sure where the TIAG/TINAG line is at times, and if I were OOG and uninvolved, I wouldn't particularly want my personal details splashed all over the internet. If necessary, I'll post pointers to people (e.g. their company profile) rather than private contact details.

2. If you're with-holding information for "character privacy" reasons, it's still plausible to inform everyone else that you're at least following something. An explanation of why you can't divulge info is better than "holding back" all info, as it were.

3. I'm assuming this forum is "safe".

4. I'm not sure if wikis and other places (e.g. blogposts) for info are safe or not. So far, judging from Eric's mails, I'm guessing they're not. I'd continue therefore to use IRC and these threads openly (although judgement call on who's in the IRC channel at the time...) Everything else - use your discretion as above, I say.

Before anyone jumps in, definitely not having a go at anyone - just attempting to help out on the line between not being able to talk to in-game characters, and not being able to talk to each other. Above all, it's looking like an intriguing game at least Smile (And slow enough for me to follow whilst still getting some work done <g>)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:47 pm
catherwood
Mason wrote:
I'll keep my contacts with Eric confidential as per his request.


We had a discussion about this in IRC last week. There is no rule that says a player *must* share with other players, but it is generally how *this* community has played games together in the past. There are always exceptions, particularly when the in-game character source specifically requests that their contact be kept secret.

You as a player can maintain that character's confidence within the ingame world (by not communicating with other characters) and *still* share the contents of that communication here in an out-of-game manner with your fellow players. This is just an option, a choice, not a requirement. If there is important information that needs to get out to all of the players, it will get out there eventually.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:01 pm
myf
Thanks for the offer, but I'm involved in other games far more than this one, and will stick to just following it in this thread. I'm not interested in becoming completely engrossed in it.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:00 pm
Mason
Well, feel free tipsila. Simply because I obviously direct it at you, doesn't make it any harsher than your constant subtle attacks at me. I guess I just have the spine to come out and say it, instead of conniving quietly in a corner.

myf, I understand how hard it is to get into ARGs once they've started rolling, and appreciate that you can't contribute until you've caught up on the ever-puzzling nature of 6op1libra. If you post or PM me your email address, I'll BCC you in on any information I receive.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:49 am
myf
Mason, you are of course quite within your rights if you want to keep communications to yourself, but as has already been said, these boards should be OOG and so anything posted here is meant to be safe and not impact on events in any way.

And yes, I'm aware that I haven't contributed to the proceedings, but I have been reading and following from the start, and would certainly appreciate it if you did continue posting emails etc. here.

If you want to pick up your ball and go home, feel free. Just don't attack people on your way out.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:24 am
tipsila
Just because I haven't had any IM conversations with a character in THIS game does not mean I am afraid to do so - and you can believe whatever you wish.

I didn't say it was you - but perhaps you have a guilty conscience?

Trout, you say? I think not. No new game information? I think you are jealous.

Also, I find your post quite offensive, Mason. It isn't the first time you have tried to belittle me, and perhaps I should bring it to the attention of a moderator, as posts such as yours above spoil the enjoyment of others that would like to play a game.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:14 am
James Stone
Wow, someone needs to go back under their bridge, eh Mason?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:10 am
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