Transcendental number
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In mathematics, a transcendental number is a real or complex number which is not algebraic, that is, not a solution of a non-zero polynomial equation, with rational coefficients.
The most prominent examples of transcendental numbers are π and e. Only a few classes of transcendental numbers are known, and proving that a given number is transcendental can be extremely difficult.
Transcendental number
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In mathematics, a transcendental number is a real or complex number which is not algebraic, that is, not a solution of a non-zero polynomial equation, with rational coefficients.
The most prominent examples of transcendental numbers are π and e. Only a few classes of transcendental numbers are known, and proving that a given number is transcendental can be extremely difficult.
Dang it! I was just in the process of figuring that out and you just barely beat me to it! That was fun though! Good work!
Thanks for rotating it Sylvia, I know I wouldn't have figured it out without it.
[EDIT] I wish I had figured out how to use the cryptogram solver, I was sitting here doing the whole thing on paper!
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:37 pm
yellowcard
I used a cryptogram solver and got two possible "solutions" when the diagram is rotated 90deg counterclockwise:
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The first one included the word "pun" instead of fun, so I think the second one is most likely closest to the solution. I'm guessing that proper names may be throwing the complete thing off.
"USE THE ABOVE
NUMBER
TRANSCENDENTAL
ANDOTNET
WWWDOTBUTLERM
SARK
THIS IS NECES
HAVING FUN
WORTHLESS
NOTHING
GIBBERISH"
Oh, hey! How about this?
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With 90deg clockwise rotation:
GIBBERISH
NOTHING
WORTHLESS
HAVING FUN
THIS IS NECESSARY
WWWDOTBUTLERMANDOTNET
TRANSCENDENTAL
NUMBER
USE THE ABOVE
EDIT: I think they meant "WWWDOTBULLERMANDOTNET"
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:29 pm
Sylvia
I only get that there are 20 letters in it. but I could be wrong.
The image, as it was, was sort of hard to follow. So, I rotated it 90 degrees and got this to work with.
Code:
L M E K B E G H S J E
R L Q H E P
K P G R M I E R D E R K G V
G R D S K R E K
Z Z Z D S K H L V V E P Q
M G P Y
K B C M C M R E I E M
B G J C R A F L R
Z S P K B V E M M
R S K B C R A
A C H H E P C M E
Next I took the rotated image and flipped it vertically and got this to work with:
Code:
G I B B E V I J H
R S K H I R G
W S V K H P E J J
H A M F R G F L R
K H I J I J R E C E J
J A V Y
W W W D S K B L P P E V Q
A R D S K R E K
K V A R J C E R D E R K A P
R L Q B E V
L J E K H E A B S M E
hiding2.JPG
Description
rotated 90 degrees
Filesize
65.46KB
Viewed
291 Time(s)
hiding3.JPG
Description
rotated 90 degrees then flipped vertically
Filesize
52.16KB
Viewed
282 Time(s)
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:00 pm
Doug52392
yellowcard wrote:
Lunsford wrote:
does anyone know where to begin with this one? what kind of "message" does this look like to you guys?
There appear to be exactly 26 possible symbols. I'm cooking a late lunch, so I can't give much attention to this at the moment.
If there are 26 letters in it, it's most likely similar to the message we were stuck on a few weeks ago. I have to do something now, but I'll be back on in an hour to take a closer look at it.
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:51 pm
Lunsford
looking at this "glyph" i think that on the seventh row, the first three characters are www??? maybe redirecting to a website... only makes sense with three characters in a row.. and it kinda looks like it in a weird ancient way...
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:46 pm
yellowcard
Lunsford wrote:
does anyone know where to begin with this one? what kind of "message" does this look like to you guys?
There appear to be exactly 26 possible symbols. I'm cooking a late lunch, so I can't give much attention to this at the moment.
But anyone can create there own code using the # and X so these may not help.
So we have to figure out what letter of the alphabet each symbol represents.
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:41 pm
Musicluver315
Reminds me of an old, simple code. You have two tic-tac toe boards, First without dots, then with. Then you have two Xs one w/o dots one with. Each space is given a letter, usually in ABC order.
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:36 pm
Lunsford
does anyone know where to begin with this one? what kind of "message" does this look like to you guys?
I'm back from Christmas vacation and everything looks cool so far. I think Sylvia's really onto something with the whole Steve/JB thing. It makes sense that Steve is truly dead and that JB is posing as Steve.
Hey all. I just noticed this trailhead last night and read all 50 pages. I haven't had a chance to watch any of the videos yet, but intend to tonight.
Anyway, I live in Iowa City, just south of Cedar Rapids, which is why this caught my attention. My wife is from CR and my in-laws live there. Even trippier, my boss's husband works at Duane Arnold in Palo. After reading everything, I don't know that you actually need any ground truth information for this campaign, but feel free to PM me if you need any information about the local flavor.
Oh, and just a little useless FYI - the Cedar Rapids newspaper is the Gazette (no Daily Chronicle around here AFAIK) and even though it's spelled Tripoli, it's pronounced tri-PO-luh (I have no idea why).