It would amuse me highly if the guy behind XKCD was involved in this somehow, that is by far my favorite webcomic, the only other one that comes close is a softer world, anyways, i think it was just to flesh him out, geeks like XKCD, so let's have our geek like XKCD, alot of background went into this site, whoever was working on this did alot of planning, it looks like it could be fun when it gets moving, i need to start reading Nate's blog, i dislike most on general principal but i can justify this as for an ARG so it's all good.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:15 pm
alexbutterfield
Positronic matrix
I also found this choice of phrase in his blog interesting - seems like yet another link to AI.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:05 pm
Agent Lex
He also confirms that the twitter is he, but it's unlikely to update soon.
FWIW, about XKCD - that site has been around for YEARS, and is well known and well loved by geeks large and small
It just makes sense that Nate would dig it, and makes him "more real".
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:34 pm
alexbutterfield
Holomovement
Mousekinn wrote:
Quote:
There is such a thing called the Holomovement, a metaphysical concept involving enlightenment in man's consciousness...It's a pretty interesting concept the more I read into it, but it may be just a coincidental tie in to the name of the company.
That can't be coincidence. You wouldn't call the company Holomove if you wanted people to ignore holomovement.
I've got to say though, it sounds way over my head.
About the XKCD comics, I looked into that site briefly and it seemed too well formed to have been manufactured. I got the impression it had been linked to from Nate's blog just to bulk up Nate's blog. Like the Onion video. (re: that onion video: I checked it again, it seems the Scarlet ads are embedded (I could be wrong), and what's more it seems like the content is out of place. That is the advert has more relevance to the game than the fake news content. pretty funny skit though. I'm not throwing my weight behind an LG (whoever that is) funded ARG, but it's a possibility.)
Having gone on that tangent - the bio for the comic artist does seem quite coincidental at the very least. But maybe the PMs deliberately found a site to link t that had an author who worked for Langley. If this ex-Langley physicist had been in a band, maybe they'd have linked to his band's site - if you follow me. Although it seems too coincidental, maybe it's supposed to - a bit of a red herring.
Code Writer Nate - of course, what an idiot I am. I was never good at reading license plates.
Edit:
this might seem obvious but I just want to make sure I'm on the same page as everyone else here seeing that this is my first ARG.
We are trying to uncover a mystery that we don't really know what it is. But it's probably something to do with the disappearance of Dr. Gough.
Nate is our in. He has a blog which gives us eyes inside the offices of Holomove, and a place to get responses. He also seems to have conflicting ideas with Holomove - their campaign about Scientific Anarchy conflicts with his love for coding based on its logic and reasoning (which he mentions a few times in his blog). At the same time Nate seems, well not naive, as he doesn't know he's in-game, but from our perspective he certainly isn't living the conspiracy theory.
Are we supposed to try and connect with him and rouse him into action to find things out for us?
Also what about these packages people were sent? Which in-game character sent these? Or are we supposed to overlook that and just use them as a starting block? If a character sent them, if Dr. Gough sent them, that would coincide with the theory that Dr. Gough knew he was going to disappear, and this is a clue to alert us to a mystery, just as the bogus crossword is.
Also - i don't think it's been mentioned, and it doesnt really matter, but it seems that players were sent these packages with different portions of the memo blacked out, if we are supposed to take that as in-game context then it's clearly an effort to get a group of puzzle solvers to look into what ever mystery you are alerting them to. rather than just getting one consiracy theorist to do your work, you get a group hooked instead. Also was the holomove sticker sent out in different pieces (that add up to a whole) because the piece on page one of this thread is not the whole as seen on c-net.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:26 pm
Ignu5
Greg wrote:
So a guy who used to work for the government in a research center now draws comics admired by Nathan who works for a company started by a guy who worked for 2 research centers... Now THAT's a coincidence.
I'd say that in itself was nothing, but he's got a link on his site to another which again goes into holomovemnet...
Interesting spec, but I highly doubt that xkcd has anything to do with this. They've been an ongoing webcomic for a long time now.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:26 pm
Greg
I don't think this is about surface. In his blog, Nathan was talking about the hiring process and the puzzles. He mentioned that there were rumors of a developers challenge in the works and then he said about the company "They are trying to out Microsoft Microsoft and out Google Google."
Put that phrase into Google, and the battle of Microsoft and Yahoo starts coming in, including some about google forcing Microsoft to go after Yahoo. I 'm not going to say its Yahoo, but I think it's too coincidental that the M-Y battle is finally over, and then Holomove is launched...
Also, when Nathan is talking about New Year's Resolutions in his blog, one of his items is "Do something with all my photos". So that may explain Twitter.
Finally, I don't know if this is posted somewhere else already, but I ran a whois of the domain for the comic Zealous Config on Nathan's site, it shows the registrant of xkcd.com as DomainsByProxy.com the servers listed are NS1.SCIESNET.NET & COLOBUS.ISOMERICA.NET
EDIT: I was checking out the about section on xkcd, the guy describing himself as the owner has a section called who are you?
Quote:
I'm just this guy, you know? I'm a CNU graduate with a degree in physics. Before starting xkcd, I worked on robots at NASA's Langley Research Center in Virginia. As of June 2007 I live in Massachusetts. In my spare time I climb things, open strange doors, and go to goth clubs dressed as a frat guy so I can stand around and look terribly uncomfortable. At frat parties I do the same thing, but the other way around.
So a guy who used to work for the government in a research center now draws comics admired by Nathan who works for a company started by a guy who worked for 2 research centers... Now THAT's a coincidence.
I'd say that in itself was nothing, but he's got a link on his site to another which again goes into holomovemnet...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:15 am
konamouse
I was thinking about "Surface" also about two days into this but couldn't remember what it was called.
Whatever this is, I'm enjoying the lurk mode (even though no one has answered my email about my job interest - I think that is just a means to judge activity and gather more contact information - maybe there will be some outward contact in a few more days after the buzz has garnered more new people).
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:12 am
intersect
With the thoroughness these guys, I'd doubt almost anything they do is a coincidence. Good find!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:15 am
mousekinn
I mentioned this yesterday in IRC, but I thought I'd bring it up here, too, due to Alex's post regarding Reverse Haptics.
There is such a thing called the Holomovement, a metaphysical concept involving enlightenment in man's consciousness.
"Holomovement is a metaphysical concept invented by David Bohm describing his visual description of the 'fabric of reality', implying 'undivided wholeness in flowing movement' [1]. The holomovement is the underlying flow (of possibly not yet defined qualities related to thought, matter and energy) in which reality (or the possible realities) can be experienced. The prefix 'holo' combines the reference to 'holistic' with the dimensional depth of the concurrent influencing worlds or flows, that like in a hologram project reality in the interference patterns of its 'substructure'."
It's a pretty interesting concept the more I read into it, but it may be just a coincidental tie in to the name of the company.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:10 am
Agent Lex
Re: CodeWtrN8
alexbutterfield wrote:
however, just a thought, but the onion news clip on nathan's blg is bookended with LG Scarlet ads. One of them featuring a kung fu heroin 'Scarlet'. which rang some bells about Eliza's hobbies of martial arts. you dont think this is a tie in with that somehow do you?
I doubt it. I don't think you'd be able to control which ads bookend the Onion video, it's just whatever they put up there.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:15 am
OwnD
Re: CodeWtrN8
alexbutterfield wrote:
I've been reading through the CodeWrtN8 blog.
(how are people reading that by the way? I see it as code writer N8, not sure what the N8 means)
Code Writer Nate - as in Nathan
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:11 am
alexbutterfield
CodeWtrN8
I hope this isnt bad ARG etiquette to just write down everything I think because that's what I'm doing.
I've been reading through the CodeWrtN8 blog.
(how are people reading that by the way? I see it as code writer N8, not sure what the N8 means)
Checking his youtube videos, etc.
It seems his cubicle mate is Jay. He's got a thing for Eliza, another colleague. His boss George doesn't like him filming him, in fact most everyone seems a little apprehensive about being filmed at work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zdfwVUlpRg
This clip introduces Eliza, who is a big fan of Your Vegas, too. I assume the music in the background is Your Vegas. Here's the wiki on them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Vegas
weird, i'm from Leeds and I've never heard of em. But perhaps whoever is behind this ARG are plugging them. They are signed to Universal for what its worth.
is seen from an alternate angle in another video titled: Re: Sergey from Coyote Point. Wasn't sure what this means, but Sergey Katsov is a tech for Coyote Point Systems who work behind the scenes for Interop. Which is no help at all. I really don't understand why this video is up twice. It's clearly not real, the characters are clearly actors, but what's the point of it? No idea.
http://youtube.com/user/interopguy
He also works with Smiling lady, Chris Stile, the receptionist I think.
T - is working on something 'top secret' for nathan.
Tawni and Clarice are reading Dirty Dishes magazine.
John
'John-Paul' from france
Noel who seems to have a thing with John Paul.
I read a couple places that people think maybe Microsoft are behind this ARG because of it's production values. Not knowing much about ARGs I wouldnt want to proclaim anything, but these videos of his offices are packed with Macs, I cant imagine any microsoft funded campaign showcasing macs exclusively. however, just a thought, but the onion news clip on nathan's blg is bookended with LG Scarlet ads. One of them featuring a kung fu heroin 'Scarlet'. which rang some bells about Eliza's hobbies of martial arts. you dont think this is a tie in with that somehow do you?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:55 am
ares5000
making a multi touch table is actually pretty easy now that there's a bunch of open-source software. i've got a small setup like that to use with Virtual DJ
im confused though because Surface has already been "launched"