[JehosephatDostoevsky]

The problem is I live on pretty much the other side of London. My friends all work (I'm still studying, postgrad ftw ), so they wouldn't want to go all the way across London for something that doesn't really mean much to them after a day's work, bearing in mind that to get back to my bit of London from there, the easiest route would still be two trains and a bus. Ah well, might have to let Howard know that the meet up'd be a no-go (assuming we get confirmation that that is the right place)

[posse]

JehosephatDostoevsky wrote:

yeh, that's my thought. I would be able to go, it's a bit of a trek (even tho I'm also in London, i could still take me up to 2 hours to get there), but I don't mind that too much. But if it would be just me going, I'd probably stay away. There's a lot of weird people on the internet, and I'd rather not take unnecessary risks (even if Howard's legit, this is an open forum and you never know who might be reading it :/ )

Definitely, Jeho. Do not want you to go alone. If you could convince a friend or two to come with you, I would feel much better about the whole thing. But as you are the one that would be taking on the risk & time, of course it's up to you.

OOG: It does look like quite a trek away from London proper, and I don't know what else may be out there that you could entice your friends to join you. The Royal Botanical Gardens, perhaps?

[JehosephatDostoevsky]

yeh, that's my thought. I would be able to go, it's a bit of a trek (even tho I'm also in London, i could still take me up to 2 hours to get there), but I don't mind that too much. But if it would be just me going, I'd probably stay away. There's a lot of weird people on the internet, and I'd rather not take unnecessary risks (even if Howard's legit, this is an open forum and you never know who might be reading it :/ )

[posse]

I did send an email to confirm but haven't heard back yet.

Is there anyone that is available to go out and scout around the place? Or maybe even show up at the meeting time? Are they even open that late?

[url=http://www.mortlakeparish.org.uk/stmary's/StMary'sHome.html?../quietgardens/quietintro.html&1500]This page[/url] has another picture of the possible arch. Also there's a link to a PDF that describe exactly how to get to the church.

Of course, must stress to always be careful and to not take unnecessary risks when going to a location IRL. Won't blame anyone at all -- who really wants to be in a graveyard when it gets dark? Brrr!

[punxtr]

Reading this thread has been very interesting. Consider this trail being followed!

[JehosephatDostoevsky]

It looks good, but it is a completely different part of London to Greenwich. Of course, just because Howard works at Greenwich, that doesn't mean that the meeting place is there. Anyone e-mailed Howard to ask if that's the right place?

[booba]

Don't know if it narrows things down, as almost any church has some type of arch.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1945263

This might help:

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Mortlake appears in Domesday Book of 1086 as Mortelage.......Mortelage is thought to mean a small stream containing young salmon, referring to a fishery in the area on a former tributary of the River Thames which is now gone.

[RandomGuy26]

Just jumping in here.

The poem seems to be a further clue to the location mentioned before.
Earlier in the thread booba linked to St. Mary the Virgin's Church where Dee is supposedly buried in the churchyard. This is Dee's churchyard?
She who bore "he crowned in thorn" would be Mary, the mother of Jesus, made to wear a crown of thorns.
Since this is a church, I took the women signing their names off in threes as a reference to the three biblical Marys (Maries). However, I'm not sure this can apply to the 3 following sentences, as Mary the mother of Jesus is not considered one of those three.

[posse]

FYI, the subject of the email containing the poem was "Tīw's Locus".

Locus = Latin for location/place

Tiw's probably refers to Tiw's Day, which is where Tuesday comes from.

In other words, the poem contains Tuesday's location, i.e. where to meet on Tuesday.

According to the convo that draghkar had, the time of the meeting is sunset. This website says that sunset in London on Tuesday will be at 9:21PM.

[Zobot257]

Weird.... what does it mean?

[JehosephatDostoevsky]

poem's been sent

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When Autumn is balanced and the sun leaves the trees The ladies underneath sign their names off in threes One who is crowned in gold and horn Meets another who bore he crown-ed in thorn Young salmon dance in the river strong Dee's churchyard: the arch: at horzion long... Howard.

[draghkar]

continuation of the chat:

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are you sure it is a coincidence? Sent at 10:31 PM on Sunday me: the guy with the name of Dr Geraint Clyme who has been sending mail from your mail account is an anagram for Gerald McIntyre ring a bell? Sent at 10:33 PM on Sunday Dr Geraint.. that means... but... He resigned. Yesterday. No-one had seen him for a few days - he just emailed his resignation to BM HQ and they accepted it. Has left my department i a bit of state - but given me a bit of space as I think it was him who had the watchers on me.. Sent at 10:47 PM on Sunday me: he is the one that made us believe there was some sort of investigation going on... urged us not to contact you.. Howard: mmm... I need to think about this - I may be back on later - for now, my thanks. I'll email the rhyme shortly bye for now./ me: I wll be going to bed shortly, have a good night... looking forward to the rhyme..

[draghkar]

Just had a conversation with Howard:

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Howard: Things are moving forwards now... I'm apprehensive though of people in London being availble available* [and the watchers in the library only monitor email - not chat so I can talk freely for a bi...] bit* Sent at 10:06 PM on Sunday me: thats good, how are you feeling? Sent at 10:09 PM on Sunday Howard: Good overall - getting a little curious though - why all this attention because of that document from my great uncle - who, some say, is alive somehow... me: I think this document is the key to the green energy you are after.. green magick I mean.. Sent at 10:11 PM on Sunday Howard: I have reservations... should I, for example, go after it - if others are also interested... they have taken it - it was left in my office andwhen I came back all I found were charred remains and the broken glass - I didn't wexplain because I thought people would find it odd... not believe me... but it had been set fire to IN THE SCANNER... Sent at 10:12 PM on Sunday me: you should, go after it.. Howard: hence the crack and the removal of the document- I thought people would think me odd. Also - if people are watching me, by saying it'd been taken - well it got them off my back a bit you think? me: yes... never let the opportunity yo learn go away.. especially when it will connect you to your great uncle.. Howard: I suppose... Tuesday I go alone then - unless more than one other person can be there too... me: think of the old times, if the alchemists didnt study forbidden arts, we never would have the chemistry we have today.. I will ask my london friends to come and join you, I know of at least one that can aid.. Howard: It will be at sunset at... well... me: where? your transmission broke Howard: I will let your london friends work it out - but I'll send YOU an email with a rhyme I made up shortly... two minutes - phone going.. me: okidoki Sent at 10:17 PM on Sunday me: by the way, about the Munsell10GY error.. munsell is a color coding schema, and 10GY is a "lighter green". Sent at 10:21 PM on Sunday Howard: lighter green eh - hehe - coincidences are funny things sorry- phone call was longer than I thought me: is ok no problem

No poem yet

[nomad]

It's simple: Munsell is a colour system and 10GY is the 'lighter green' in this system, like this: http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/44C83F/. So, this whole affair just got some more green into it...

[JehosephatDostoevsky]

Well, Howard seemed to miss a little coded message of my own in the e-mail I sent him earlier today (which on the face of it appeared to be about his computer trouble, hence the beginning of his response).

But anyway, something more encouraging here re: tuesday. Like I said though, he appeared to not meet one-on-one (which is fair enough, I'm rather wary of meeting up with people you know from the internet as a general rule), so any one else playing this ARG in London?

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Jeho - thanks for the ideas - however - the only computer I can use is at work - money is very tight for me and I do not like to have anything electronic in my house for... a variety of reasons. Mainly it interferes with the energies I am learning about. However, I think I may have worked out the location you all decoded. I am still working on i - I will discuss tomorrow. It wasn't a virus at work - just a continual rebooting from something they termed "Munsell10GY error" - looked it up but think they were bluffing as couldn't find any computer codes with that error message. I am sorry I've not been in touch - I want to ensure that if I am going somewhere on Tuesday, I go to the right place. Are any of you in London [I'm assuming you're talking to others judging from previous messages] Thanks Howard

Any ideas about the 'error'?