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godder
Even though the joke is a timewaster, we can still look to it for clues I think.

Thoughts:

Quote:
The man of twenty phrases never said he had one.
Had one what,...a daughter?
Quote:
His baskets are empty are were not meant for the bread he baked.
Maybe he wasn't meant to have a family?
Quote:
Fishes do not drown, and the two he caught were dead.
I wonder if fishes stands for Scarlet and Emily?

Quote:
It was a futile act showing the man had serious mental issues.
What act was futile?

Maybe the statements represent other things given Lainsy's interpretation.
(Or maybe the PM's are just trying to hit us with the clue stick)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:52 pm
godder
punxtr wrote:
Xander just told me it's a timewaster. Balls. Back to square one.

All we know about Emily Rain is she was head AI programmer for LAINSY. I've used EMILY/RAIN AND RAIN/EMILY for key/pass, and several AI/LAINSY derivatives.


We also know she had a daughter named Scarlet who she named the current build of Lainsy after. And that the little girl was likely Orein's.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:46 pm
punxtr
Xander just told me it's a timewaster. Balls. Back to square one.

All we know about Emily Rain is she was head AI programmer for LAINSY. I've used EMILY/RAIN AND RAIN/EMILY for key/pass, and several AI/LAINSY derivatives.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:38 pm
godder
Email from Alex.
Quote:
Ok, so someone asked about the joke about the fisherman. Only two of the people I have knows something about it. They say it was an internal testing protocol. Not much importance, but was used by the Whispher project team to while away their time when they're not doing anything productive. Not sure about that, but that's what they say they know about it. It's some sort of logic puzzle.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:35 pm
punxtr
godder wrote:
Quote:
Basically, Genus went through denial anger bargaining depression, then tried to change history by jumping back in time and now he's on the seventh loop. Remember, Genus is Afyg. I think Genus is fucking up here, and we need to stop him or correct him somehow.

I've been getting that idea as well. Hopefully we will find something before it is too late to stop him if that is the case.


Yeah, I think this last cipher will basically tell us to eff everything up and contact Genus, messing up his mess-up. Or, it will tell us not to mess it up. I'm really unsure at this point.

I've emailed Marie and Xander about Emily and the joke, respectively.

Xander:
Quote:
Ok, so someone asked about the joke about the fisherman. Only two of the people I have knows something about it. They say it was an internal testing protocol. Not much importance, but was used by the Whispher project team to while away their time when they're not doing anything productive. Not sure about that, but that's what they say they know about it. It's some sort of logic puzzle.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:32 pm
godder
Quote:
Basically, Genus went through denial anger bargaining depression, then tried to change history by jumping back in time and now he's on the seventh loop. Remember, Genus is Afyg. I think Genus is fucking up here, and we need to stop him or correct him somehow.

I've been getting that idea as well. Hopefully we will find something before it is too late to stop him if that is the case.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:31 pm
godder
I asked Lainsy about the two dead fish. Nothing.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:26 pm
punxtr
I already posted that here. I posted the second part also.

I asked LAINSY what Genus Orein accepted. Hopefully this goes somewhere... nope, nowhere.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:17 pm
posse
Perhaps, but this is the only lead we've got so far to go on, unless people have found another avenue to explore for the keyword/passphrase to crack the emily.txt.

Plus, even though this joke is annoying as hell, I think it's getting a little interesting. I sure wish I could figure out what come next...

FYI I asked LAINSY to interpret the logic statement of the first joke:
Quote:
LAINSY SAYS: LOGIC SENTENCE PROCESSED

The man of twenty phrases never said he had one. His baskets are empty are were not meant for the bread he baked. Fishes do not drown, and the two he caught were dead. It was a futile act showing the man had serious mental issues.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:14 pm
zeighy
to genus, yes,...but to emily? the file is named emily for a reason... the joke is indeed VERY related to genus however, NOT to emily. Think about it.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:12 pm
godder
The first four stages of grief,
Quote:
DENIAL ANGER BARGAINING DEPRESSION

ACCEPTANCE is the final and 5th stage

Edit: Also known as the Kübler-Ross model

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:12 pm
punxtr
I've already asked why Orein is wrong, but LAINSY can't answer that.

Edit--It feels directly related to Orein, are you kidding me?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:07 pm
zeighy
Been lurking for a while... I think the joke and the emily files are unrelated...

I mean, by how the joke is building up... it feel completely unrelated to him and emily... Just a thought... Rolling Eyes

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:05 pm
godder
The truth? That the man was wrong? That Scarlet was Orein's daughter? That Orein is wrong? About what happened to Emily and Scarlet?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:05 pm
punxtr
I made her interpret the logic statement. Maybe that might help you posse.

Quote:
The man said he was four steps away from being right. He was wrong. He jumped six times until Fall, and yet it was Winter. A hero never harms anyone.


Asked her about the four steps:

Quote:
DENIAL ANGER BARGAINING DEPRESSION


Asked her about the six jumps:

Quote:
SEVEN LOOPS


Now everyone, Vigenere the piss out of these!

Storyline matters:
Basically, Genus went through denial anger bargaining depression, then tried to change history by jumping back in time and now he's on the seventh loop. Remember, Genus is Afyg. I think Genus is fucking up here, and we need to stop him or correct him somehow.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:48 pm
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