Dan seems to have noticed, too. Based on the post script, he also seems pissed.
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Good Morning! Or that's what it is from where I am. Too early in the morning actually.
I'm just going to keep you all posted, that I am was kicked out by Alex in the investigations regarding Genus, in case you haven't known, yet. So now, I am in Texas and will be on my way to Toronto on a company plane. I'll be keeping in touch with you guys, so you don't need to worry about that.
Also, in case you haven't noticed, yet, the site seems to have updated. Yes, the failtech website. It now has this nifty wallpaper. But, I'm guessing this might be related to our problems right now. So I guess you'll have to check it out.
I'll email you all soon when I get to Toronto.
P.S. No backstabbing today, ok?
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:32 pm
zeighy
No updates? Anyways, just so people know, the website updated, and a background with a planet with three moons (probably this is from the image from the blog?) and two tracks were added to the music list...
One of which is SSTV, and another morse code... I'm not so good with these, so I'll leave it to you guys... I check the blog and it has a new entry, with just a link, and it points to the website... so I guess Genus is responsible for those...
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:14 am
SolarMarr
I don't think I'd necessarily blame whoever let Alex know, since we've been trying to keep both of them on top of our activities. However, this is a good opportunity to re-think how we interact with both of them. Maybe we can come up with some general guidelines of what does and doesn't need community input, and what needs a flat out vote?
I guess as an example, if, say, Dan gives us a new puzzle, it's kind of a no-brainer to contact him if we can get a solution. Likewise, asking about and replying to background or story information seems to be pretty safe.
Things that are perceived to be A Big Deal, like rebooting LAINSY, could stand to use some significant community discussion before we act. I think we managed that fairly well, and if we keep it up there shouldn't be a problem.
The middle ground is kinda iffy. A situation where either Alex or Dan, but not both, has offered a puzzle, may warrant discussion as to whether we should release the same information to the other. As for "outside" messages, such as from Gene or future contacts, a bit of group discussion would likely be wise. After all, we don't have any definitive proof as to who's trustworthy.
So... Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:16 pm
Zobot257
Dang it! Oh. No one panic. I am sure we will hear from Dan soon
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:22 pm
godder
What the...! It was most definitely not me! No one help that snake in the grass Alex! We need to talk to Daniel. We need to discuss all decisions as a group. If you want to go rogue, at least tell us so we can tell them another faction is involved.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:06 pm
zeighy
waaaiiiiit! What just happened? was just away for like a day... and no, wasn't me either, I don't like emailing the characters...
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:37 pm
posse
Just wanted you to know, it WASN'T ME this time.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:36 am
LatentMoths
Email from Alex...
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Good news! Well that actually depends on how you think about it if it's good or bad. The board and executive council has granted me full control of the Antarctica Facility and all operations of the investigations Miller has started down here. He will be sent back to North America in the next few hours because he wasn't very cooperative and was working behind my back. Thanks to someone in the group, I managed to acquire a small evidence that helped in pushing him out.
If you think about it, he will only slow down the plan and might actually prevent it from happening, so that's a good thing. I know you all want to help Orein here, so I'm sure this is good news for you. Oh don't worry, Miller and his team will be ok. They will just be sent back to North America, maybe back to Texas or Toronto. The board has then allowed me to have full access to everything in this facility. Of course we all know there won't be any investigation here, I already know what's going to happen so what's the point. Right? Now we can all relax and wait for Orein plan's to happen. Doesn't that sound nice?
Thanks again for all the help! I know I haven't given you all that much of a work to do, but isn't that the point? I mean, why give you so much work to do when we can all just wait and relax for things to happen.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:31 am
punxtr
Attention all "experts", the recent breakdown in the integrity of this team has made me doubt who I can trust. Alex has helped us in the past, but he will help us no more, I believe. By burning old bridges, we are doing harm to our chances of seeing this investigation through.
The truth is, Orein is our true allie, while Dan and Alex both have their own personal goals in the matter. Although Dan has hid stuff from us in the past, a gentle prodding normally opened him up. With Alex, however, he hides everything Genus has sent him. He doesn't want us to know Genus' plan. If we are to help Genus, we are not to help Alex.
Remember this, Alex wanted us to do everything for him. Yet he wouldn't let us hear that transmission. Strange, no? Dan intercepts this transmission to help us out, yet someone reports it back to the man that wanted to hide it from us to begin with. We are still doing all the work for Alex!
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:02 am
godder
punxtr wrote:
girlwhoruledtheworld wrote:
sky sail away apyl?? shall come earth dark days death comes orein come
I can't make sense of the fourth word, perhaps a code within a code again?
The last word uses the GL symbol, not the CK symbol. The word is most likely "gone".
As for A FP JY GL, if anyone can make a word out of that, please tell me.
Edit--That seems to be the phonetic part. I strongly believe it means "a file". Sky sail away a file shall come earth dark days death comes Orein gone.
Perhaps Orein is saying he flew away to space, a file will be sent to Earth, something bad will happen, he's gone [forever?]. Not sure.
That's what I'm seeing too. The question is, what file and why? Actually, that is a pair of questions I'll check back tomorrow and see what I can figure out with fresh eyes and brain. TTFN
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:48 pm
punxtr
girlwhoruledtheworld wrote:
sky sail away apyl?? shall come earth dark days death comes orein come
I can't make sense of the fourth word, perhaps a code within a code again?
The last word uses the GL symbol, not the CK symbol. The word is most likely "gone".
As for A FP JY GL, if anyone can make a word out of that, please tell me.
Edit--That seems to be the phonetic part. I strongly believe it means "a file". Sky sail away a file shall come earth dark days death comes Orein gone.
Perhaps Orein is saying he flew away to space, a file will be sent to Earth, something bad will happen, he's gone [forever?]. Not sure.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:55 pm
zeighy
So from the start, LAINSY has been following these set of laws, like the first one... while she was in charge and in control, no one died... remember?
Also, third law, she has to protect the company... and thus she locks out Genus, because she has seen that Genus might be a trouble...
Then, fourth law, she prevent herself to be rebooted (blocking incoming email) because it will conflict to the first and third law if she reboots.... interesting....
seems like LAINSY is built as solid as the protocols FAILTECH has on their employees, that not following these set protocols will result into something bad... the more I think I about it, the PMs seem to really have a strong foundation on this...
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:04 pm
Gimme20dollaz
Well, we now know one thing that we don't have to worry about: LAINSY becoming self-aware.
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Although LAINSY is indeed capable of thinking for herself, most of these decisions are "scripted" and needs to be programmed into her. At the core of her logic system, there are five primary logic laws she has to follow:
1. She has to protect human life and not cause any harm to any humans through direct action, indirect action, or inaction. However, as an exception to this law, if harm or death is unavoidable, the best compromise or alternative solution has to be selected.
2. She has to follow orders from humans, as long as it does not conflict with the first law. However, orders from humans with higher security clearance or higher priority supersedes other orders from other humans as long as it does not conflict with the first law.
3. She has to protect the company and it's assets, and everyone involved as long as it does not conflict with the first and second law. No exceptions.
4. She has to protect her own, as long as it does not conflict with the first, second, and third law. No exceptions.
5. She is required to allow any overrides, if all other four laws can no longer be put into practice or is no longer applicable. This law can invalidate the other laws and allow unregulated logic A.I. processing as long as the logic data equivalents are available.
Although these are taken mostly from the Asimov law of Robotics, we have fine tuned them to make them much more applicable. Although the fifth law can allow full unregulated AI processing, the possibility of LAINSY to be sentient and be self-aware is impossible as the only way she can know something is by teaching her through logic sentences and predefined parameters. She can't learn on her own, she has to be "taught" by programming her.
Although we have long closed the process that will allow anyone to "teach" her new logic, or to modify any existing logic. No one can teach her anything new anymore, and if there is a need to, the entire board has to approve it, and we need to manually activate the learning module. And before any new logic can be entered, is has to be approved first.
So yes, the possibility of her becoming something like SKYNET is impossible due to the basic reason that she can't learn on her own, even if the learning module is active. If ever she does become something like SKYNET, we have some protocols and built-in functions in her that can allow remote shutdown (just like the remote reboot sequence) or other pre-define override commands. Also, all she can do is control anything withing the FAILTECH network, such as doors, and other things. She can't control robots or machines. She also can't control any of our manufacturing systems, because those have their own automated systems 100% independent from LAINSY.
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:32 pm
and no, wasn't me either, I don't like emailing the characters...
I'll check back tomorrow and see what I can figure out with fresh eyes and brain. TTFN