Punxtr said earlier he was thinking there were 2 or 3 trigrams or "keys". Nostromo, is having so many repeated letters (ie. III, AAAA) in the encoded message common? It seems to me that wouldn't happen very often. I've been trying all of those combinations myself and I just can't seem to find it.
One thing I found out is, that when using an enigma encoded message there used to be 2 "keys" or ring positions.
Usually a first operator would select 3 rotors (I,IV,V) and initial position for each rotor (A,K,X), a 3 letter key for the shift inside the rings (A,A,A) and some stecker positions.
A second operator would then select another 3 letter key, write it 2 times (if the second key is ABC, he would take ABCABC) and encrypt it with the enigma (result would look like PGODNY).
The message would then be encoded with the new 3 letter key/shift (A,B,C) and the (with AAA) encoded 6 letter key would be put in front of the (with ABC) encoded message and transmitted.
Thus to decrypt our message one would have to take the first 6 letters of the message, decrypt them with the initial key (A,A,A) which in our case yields SONSOT unfortunately. I then assumed (dindt check yet) that I had made an error in translating the DTMF and it was actually meant to be SONSON, SON being the key for the message and took these ring positions to try and decrypt the message. Unfortunately this did not yield a legible message for me, meaning that either the PM(s?) did not use this technique to encrypt their sentence or we might have to look for other rotor positions...
TLDR: I learned how people encrypted their stuff in WWII but did not figure out the message..
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:05 am
Nostromo
There are to many configurations.
First the Reflector: B or C
The Rotors have a special Position: Left,Middle,Right so where is 2,4,and 5
| Rotor | SP | Ring | Steckers
| II, IV, V | A, K, X | A, A, A | AN ER JK
This is all we have Notromo. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:40 am
Nostromo
I worked alot with enigma Codes and have some progs.
Without the configuration of Reflector, inner Cylinder, outer Cylinder and the Plugs its not possible to Decode.
Do we have some clues for that?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:10 am
godder
Wow, things have progressed a lot since yesterday. Great, working on the enigma code as well now. Anybody having any luck with it yet?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:26 am
godofchicken
I'm back in after a day off - this game moves STUPID fast! So we know it's the enigma encoding?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:07 am
zeighy
This one's quite hard.... We know what it is now, and yet we simply can't solve it... Still working on this one.
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:38 am
punxtr
Hmm, there are either two or three trigrams. And it could be UKW B or C. That leaves a number of combinations. Working on them...
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:32 am
duke9509
Wikipedia:
Quote:
In early Enigma models, the alphabet ring was fixed to the rotor disk. An improvement introduced in later variants was the ability to adjust the alphabet ring relative to the rotor disk. The position of the ring was known as the Ringstellung ("ring setting"), and was a part of the initial setting of an Enigma prior to an operating session.
However, wouldn't A, A, A be the default (unchanged) starting position?
however, so far based on the txt file, we need something has this rings settings... seems like most enigmas have rotors, SP (starting position) or initial position, and steckers or the plugboard... but where do we find something that has this rings? is it relevant?
Problem is, the settings on the "machine" don't match perfectly with the spreadsheet. Haven't been successful so far.
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:58 pm
punxtr
He sent me his plan to get in through the submarine docks. I'll try and figure out the enigma cipher.
Quote:
Sorry if it took long before I was able to respond. It was a busy day (or night). Of course, yes I still work. I am NOT and employee so I still work (and my staff, technicians and so forth) that announcement only applies to office workers and excludes people from special departments and assignation.
And that brings me to what our meeting has resulted in. Yes, that was a part of that. All employees (office employees) are temporarily required not to work. They will still get paid while not working (and having the time of their life) while the rest will still have to report as usual and perform needed tasks.
Also, in the meeting, I was able to discuss what has and is happening down here in the facility. They are forcing me to nuke open the facility, but refused. I asked them for at least 48 hours before they will nuke it with or without my permission. It's my asset, and yet the facility is still company property. So I'm doing my best and hoping that we can get this resolved in 48 hours. Furthermore, they required me to bring back the email services back of which we already did hours ago. The rest of the meeting was other less pressing concerns that no longer concern the problem we are facing. However, if ever I, or rather, we cannot resolve this problem in 48 hours I will be required to immediately fly back to USA before they nuke the facility. The operations will then be handled by another BOD despite my protest.
Now, I was able to speak with my facility design team and we have a plan. And it was all about something I forgot because it basically slipped out of my mind. It's a plan to use the submarine docks at level 15. It's not the easiest way, but so far it's the only way in. I have already dispatched a team that will dive in and attempt to get into the facility that way. The submarine docks slipped out of mind because this facility rarely uses it. The company only own two submarines and it's not really used. One is stationed here and another is docked in a US Naval Base (we're renting docking space) so the way in is getting into the docked submarine and they use the dock connection from the submarine into the facility. Right now we're still waiting for news about the team, they should be able to reach the sub in a few moments and they will report back when they get in.
It's a good progress happening here and I do hope we can get this done in 48 hours, or rather 45 hours by the time I send this message.
Also, my programmers were able to figure out the crypo they used on the code. We, however, do not have the necessary knowledge or tools to decode it. One of my programmers were able to figure out what that was based on the fgg klj.txt file which he says was similar to the German U-Boat Codebook used in World War II. He says the code we got from the morse code was an enigma code. However, he says he doesn't know how to decode it. he says it would be hard to decode and enigma code one if you have and enigma machine if you don't have the correct settings for the motors and plugboard. Check if Genus has left other clues on the configurations.