Session Start (PainfulEuphemism:silverladder): Sun Dec 09 12:45:41 2007
[12:45] *** ForumLurkerOnAIM has joined the chat.
[12:45] PainfulEuphemism: Hello again.
[12:46] PainfulEuphemism: May we have a key, please, when you have a chance?
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[12:46] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Mornin Saul, or Paul
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[12:46] waitress200699: hi
[12:46] sc4r3m0ng3rr: hello.
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[12:46] threediamondssl: (Link: http://www.silverladder.com/diamonds/3d/threeofdiamondskey12907.htm)http://www.silverladder.com/diamonds/3d/threeofdiamondskey12907.htm
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[12:46] valrikhbf: thanks
[12:46] PainfulEuphemism: Thank you, Saul.
[12:46] sc4r3m0ng3rr: thank you.
[12:46] zomghentai: hello
[12:46] threediamondssl: I am sorry about the sadness that is my week.
[12:46] ForumLurkerOnAIM: we all knew it was coming
[12:46] zomghentai: not your fault 3D
[12:46] PainfulEuphemism: It touched a nerve with me moreso than some of the other passengers, I think.
[12:46] waitress200699: we know it's not your fault
[12:47] ForumLurkerOnAIM: it's not your fault, and we thank you for the fight
[12:47] sc4r3m0ng3rr: we're sorry that your week had to be sadness.
[12:47] PainfulEuphemism: And I appreciate you fighting for us so much.
[12:47] sc4r3m0ng3rr: and like said above, it's not your fault.
[12:47] threediamondssl: euphemism, may I send you a PM briefly?
[12:47] zomghentai: ditto
[12:47] PainfulEuphemism: Yes, you may.
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[12:48] threediamondssl: It is nice to meet all of you.
[12:48] ForumLurkerOnAIM: likewise
[12:48] sc4r3m0ng3rr: likewise.
[12:48] threediamondssl: I am Saul, from Austin.
[12:48] ForumLurkerOnAIM: You know us already.. but I am Lurker from Oregon
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[12:48] PainfulEuphemism: Austin is in a state that isn't very interesting to look at when you take three days to travel across it in a car. :)
[12:48] Falcorin: Greetings...
[12:48] TA Sasuke: HEY
[12:48] ZiiONIC34: hey
[12:48] threediamondssl: Euphemism, that is correct.
[12:48] TA Sasuke: lol
[12:49] TA Sasuke: zomghentai
[12:49] PainfulEuphemism: then again, Arizona isn't much more interesting.
[12:49] zomghentai: :p
[12:49] sc4r3m0ng3rr: also true.
[12:49] PainfulEuphemism: While we're all introducing ourselves, I'm Erin from Phoenix.
[12:49] valrikhbf: Michael from Denver
[12:49] TA Sasuke: i am Dillon from California
[12:49] ZiiONIC34: so hows it going Saul?
[12:49] zomghentai: Missy from Rhode Island
[12:49] Falcorin: Sean from California
[12:49] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i am known as "e", from arizona as well.
[12:49] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Saul.. please invite Edith-Ann
[12:49] threediamondssl: what is her name on AIM?
[12:49] waitress200699: m from phoenix
[12:49] TA Sasuke: done
[12:50] ZiiONIC34: do you have a key by the way? Saul
[12:50] threediamondssl: (Link: http://www.silverladder.com/diamonds/3d/threeofdiamondskey12907.htm)http://www.silverladder.com/diamonds/3d/threeofdiamondskey12907.htm
[12:50] threediamondssl: My hands are cold.
[12:50] zomghentai: thx zii
[12:50] PainfulEuphemism: so are mine, Saul.
[12:50] Jae Staar: hello
[12:50] sc4r3m0ng3rr: mine are too.
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[12:50] ZiiONIC34: edithannaim i believe
[12:50] legatogunsmoke: hey guys
[12:50] TA Sasuke: hay
[12:50] threediamondssl: I tried it and it said she was busy
[12:50] ZiiONIC34: thanks saul just had to check
[12:51] sc4r3m0ng3rr: although, mine might be because the roommates keep it at a constant 69.
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[12:51] TA Sasuke: hi edith
[12:51] PainfulEuphemism: and mine is because my dad's too cheap to turn on the heater.
[12:51] PainfulEuphemism: hello, Edith
[12:51] EdithAnnAim: hi
[12:51] zomghentai: and mine because its freezing here >:o
[12:51] threediamondssl: Do you have any questions for me?
[12:51] zomghentai: o aim smileys are so obnoxious
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[12:51] legatogunsmoke: well. how're you doing this afternoon?
[12:51] legatogunsmoke: for starts
[12:51] threediamondssl: Tired.
[12:51] waitress200699: should we be researching the biblical references
[12:52] threediamondssl: You should research anything you feel is necessary.
[12:52] PainfulEuphemism: or was your 3point1415.htm referring to pi? :D
[12:52] threediamondssl: I applaud those asking about the briefcase.
[12:52] ForumLurkerOnAIM: 3D is IAM.. 
[12:52] PainfulEuphemism: (as that is the first four places to pi)
[12:52] threediamondssl: Yes, Pi
[12:52] zomghentai: we have been pondering the briefcase on irc
[12:52] Theravencries45: hi all
[12:52] waitress200699: what was in the briefcase?
[12:52] PainfulEuphemism: delicious Pi.
[12:52] threediamondssl: I am Saul Keys.
[12:52] ZiiONIC34: so nothing to do with exodus either Saul
[12:52] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Sulky?
[12:52] PainfulEuphemism: A last name?
[12:52] threediamondssl: I'm sorry.  I'm asking you what is in the briefcase.
[12:52] legatogunsmoke: thats new...
[12:53] PainfulEuphemism: Paperwork.
[12:53] threediamondssl: No.
[12:53] PainfulEuphemism: That's usually what's kept in a briefcase.
[12:53] waitress200699: were deuces in the briefcase?
[12:53] ZiiONIC34: are you in the briefcase?
[12:53] ForumLurkerOnAIM: I gave my guess to the briefcase in a PM.. but it wasn't replied to.. for obvious reasons
[12:53] ZiiONIC34: I AM
[12:53] ZiiONIC34: thats why the face is on fire?
[12:53] Jae Staar: I am in the breifcase?
[12:53] zomghentai: makes sense
[12:53] PainfulEuphemism: To hide the face, Zii
[12:53] PainfulEuphemism: :)
[12:53] ZiiONIC34: i realize that but why use fire also
[12:54] threediamondssl: My face can not be revealed.
[12:54] PainfulEuphemism: to tie it all together! :D
[12:54] ForumLurkerOnAIM: fire is pretty
[12:54] zomghentai: i'm with zii
[12:54] ZiiONIC34: At least so the prophet says
 I could either burn
 Or cut off my pride and buy some time
[12:54] threediamondssl: =)
[12:54] threediamondssl: A rare smile
[12:54] zomghentai: and moses was a burning bush
[12:54] threediamondssl: Well done
[12:54] zomghentai: or god rather
[12:54] zomghentai: lol
[12:54] Jae Staar: Saul, why can't you reveal your face?
[12:54] PainfulEuphemism: None of the deuces can.
[12:54] threediamondssl: Because I can not compromise the journey.
[12:54] threediamondssl: I am not a deuce.
[12:54] PainfulEuphemism: er
[12:54] waitress200699: 3d, please invite red
[12:54] PainfulEuphemism: none of the cards.
[12:54] PainfulEuphemism: I apologize
[12:55] PainfulEuphemism: "deuces" is a phrase I've used too much
[12:55] Falcorin: Hmm, seems my guess was off.  Looking too hard at it, I think.
[12:55] threediamondssl: What is red's name on here?
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[12:55] threediamondssl: is that him?
[12:55] PainfulEuphemism: Yes.
[12:55] legatogunsmoke: why burn a suitcase, saul? 
[12:55] redcti: Hello
[12:55] PainfulEuphemism: As a statement?
[12:55] legatogunsmoke: the contents of value to the journey?
[12:55] threediamondssl: Good question.  Why burn a suitcase.
[12:55] PainfulEuphemism: Is the briefcase burning a statement?
[12:55] zomghentai: when a journey has ended?
[12:55] Jae Staar: To hide something?
[12:55] PainfulEuphemism: Perhaps of the dislike for corporate america?
[12:55] threediamondssl: The contents were of value to my journey.  Destroying them was of value.
[12:55] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Korporations use briefcases
[12:55] PainfulEuphemism: Yes, they do, Lurker
[12:55] waitress200699: is the past in the briefcase?
[12:55] redcti: just what I was thinking
[12:56] threediamondssl: Waitress got it.
[12:56] legatogunsmoke: was is a burning of identity?
[12:56] threediamondssl: Wow.
[12:56] legatogunsmoke: or loss, rather
[12:56] threediamondssl: Yes.
[12:56] PainfulEuphemism: Your past.
[12:56] threediamondssl: My past.
[12:56] threediamondssl: My regrets.
[12:56] waitress200699: cool
[12:56] PainfulEuphemism: You're removing a part of your past.
[12:56] threediamondssl: My failures.
[12:56] threediamondssl: My mistakes.
[12:56] legatogunsmoke: who you UDES to be
[12:56] threediamondssl: My addictions.
[12:56] ZiiONIC34: pictures of the past things you regret?
[12:56] threediamondssl: Yes.
[12:56] ForumLurkerOnAIM: We LEARN from our PAST!..  doh
[12:56] legatogunsmoke: used*
[12:56] sc4r3m0ng3rr: you're being "born again"?
[12:56] legatogunsmoke: what have you learned from your past?
[12:56] PainfulEuphemism: The fire cleanses, the fire baptizes.
[12:56] legatogunsmoke: birth from fire!
[12:56] zomghentai: phoenix
[12:56] PainfulEuphemism: like a Phoenix, risen again from the ashes.
[12:56] legatogunsmoke: i know that term from somewhere
[12:56] threediamondssl: What have I learned from my past?  To think before acting.
[12:57] Falcorin: From Saul to the Apostle Paul?
[12:57] ForumLurkerOnAIM: but then you burned it.. 
[12:57] ForumLurkerOnAIM: lol
[12:57] threediamondssl: That momentary pleasure is often not worth the heartache of others.
[12:57] ZiiONIC34: i know that all too well
[12:57] redcti: How very true
[12:57] PainfulEuphemism: Many more people could stand to learn that lesson.
[12:57] sc4r3m0ng3rr: point well taken.
[12:57] ZiiONIC34: and have learned from those "momentary pleasures"
[12:57] threediamondssl: That just because it feels good in the moment, doesn't make it "good."
[12:57] ForumLurkerOnAIM: <-- is broke.. 
[12:57] PainfulEuphemism: ... I could stand to learn that lesson.
[12:57] threediamondssl: I don't deny myself happiness.
[12:58] PainfulEuphemism: Of course not.
[12:58] PainfulEuphemism: But it's a healthier happiness.
[12:58] Jae Staar: yes..
[12:58] threediamondssl: I deny myself selfishness.
[12:58] legatogunsmoke: so, the contents of the briefcase are your past and all that it entails
[12:58] threediamondssl: Yes
[12:58] legatogunsmoke: a birth into a new life
[12:58] threediamondssl: Yes.
[12:58] threediamondssl: But it didn't end there.
[12:58] threediamondssl: I climbed a mountain.
[12:58] PainfulEuphemism: Holy cow.
[12:58] legatogunsmoke: what happened then?
[12:58] threediamondssl: Between burning the briefcase and climbing the mountain, I spoke up.
[12:59] threediamondssl: I told people what I was enslaved by.
[12:59] PainfulEuphemism: I was all for burning a briefcase but I don't much feel like panic attacks, so I'd have to pass on the mountain.
[12:59] legatogunsmoke: you were "preaching"
[12:59] threediamondssl: No
[12:59] legatogunsmoke: if i may use that term...
[12:59] legatogunsmoke: ok
[12:59] threediamondssl: No, asking for help.
[12:59] legatogunsmoke: wrong term
[12:59] legatogunsmoke: hmm
[12:59] ZiiONIC34: I AM has sent me to you
[12:59] threediamondssl: I need help.  Often.
[12:59] ForumLurkerOnAIM: we all do
[12:59] PainfulEuphemism: Many do.
[12:59] threediamondssl: By admitting my weakness, I became stronger.
[12:59] legatogunsmoke: what do you need help with now?
[12:59] threediamondssl: Staying on the path.
[13:00] legatogunsmoke: the same path we travel now?
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[13:00] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Do you stray from the path often?
[13:00] PainfulEuphemism: hi, Michele
[13:00] threediamondssl: Yes
[13:00] threediamondssl: I do.
[13:00] threediamondssl: Sometimes I do.
[13:00] satims: hello 3D. nice to meet you
[13:00] PainfulEuphemism: Everyone does, Saul.
[13:00] satims: I am Michele
[13:00] ZiiONIC34: its hard to stay on the new path when the old one is so familiar
[13:00] Jae Staar: You need help staying on the right path?
[13:00] threediamondssl: Hello Michele.
[13:00] Theravencries45: im pretty sure everyone here will be glad to help you 
[13:00] threediamondssl: Ziionic is correct.
[13:00] ForumLurkerOnAIM: if the path is a winding one.. it can be hard..
[13:01] redcti: I have to go now. :(
[13:01] ZiiONIC34: once that old path is a part of you... it takes a hold on you
[13:01] PainfulEuphemism: bye, Red
[13:01] Jae Staar: bye red.
[13:01] sc4r3m0ng3rr: there's so much distracting you off of the path as well.
[13:01] Falcorin:  "What you need to know about the past is that no matter what has happened, it has all worked together to bring you to this very moment. And this is the moment you can choose to make everything new. Right now."
[13:01] PainfulEuphemism: nice talking to you.
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[13:01] ZiiONIC34: and you have to fight to stay off it
[13:01] threediamondssl: When I focus on the problem, the problem becomes bigger.  When I focus on the solution, the solution becomes bigger.
[13:01] satims: that is a good point of view
[13:01] satims: i should change my way of thinking
[13:01] PainfulEuphemism: Sometimes you need a friend to bring it back into perspective, Saul.
[13:01] ForumLurkerOnAIM: When you step back.. it all becomes clear
[13:01] threediamondssl: Admitting the truth can be hard sometimes.
[13:01] satims: very
[13:01] threediamondssl: Ego death is difficult.
[13:02] PainfulEuphemism: Yes.
[13:02] Theravencries45: yea 
[13:02] satims: where are you from saul
[13:02] threediamondssl: May I step away for a moment and get some water?
[13:02] PainfulEuphemism: Austin :D
[13:02] threediamondssl: I am from Austin.
[13:02] ZiiONIC34: and people sometimes no the truth before you yourself realize it
[13:02] satims: forgive me if I asked this already
[13:02] PainfulEuphemism: of course you may, Saul.
[13:02] waitress200699: yes get some water
[13:02] zomghentai: put that fire out
[13:02] threediamondssl: Please wait for me.  I need to get some water.
[13:02] Theravencries45: ok 
[13:02] satims: did he say why he doesn't have MS
[13:02] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Do not ask to step back... and refresh yourself.. we will wear you out.. it's what we do
[13:02] zomghentai: not yet
[13:02] legatogunsmoke: death, in may respects, is necessary
[13:02] legatogunsmoke: we need death, or loss, for life
[13:03] legatogunsmoke: i feel this is our lesson in a way
[13:03] Jae Staar: what did he have problems with from his past? did he mention anything?
[13:03] satims: death is still too painful for me. I have dealth with it too much
[13:03] legatogunsmoke: i was gonna ask when he got back
[13:03] PainfulEuphemism: Nothing specific, Jae, but...
[13:03] ZiiONIC34: we need pain to learn something new and change yourself
[13:03] threediamondssl: I am back.
[13:03] Jae Staar: Yeah, I see what you mean
[13:03] ZiiONIC34: wb
[13:03] legatogunsmoke: i understand michelle
[13:03] Theravencries45: wb
[13:03] PainfulEuphemism: Welcome back, Saul.
[13:03] Jae Staar: Welcome back
[13:03] zomghentai: wb
[13:03] ZiiONIC34: some high quality h2o?
[13:04] ForumLurkerOnAIM: rofl
[13:04] threediamondssl: Yes.
[13:04] Jae Staar: It was Smart Water
[13:04] sc4r3m0ng3rr: zii, you asked what i was about to.
[13:04] ZiiONIC34: haha
[13:04] sc4r3m0ng3rr: haha.
[13:04] legatogunsmoke: saul, what of your past triggered this fire of rebirth?
[13:04] ZiiONIC34: waterboy
[13:04] legatogunsmoke: what was the main catalyst
[13:04] threediamondssl: You are all as wonderful as I was told, it seems.
[13:04] threediamondssl: I watched you from afar.
[13:04] satims: thank you
[13:04] zomghentai: *blush*
[13:04] Theravencries45: thanks :-)
[13:04] PainfulEuphemism: sorry if I seemed scary at any points, Saul :)
[13:04] satims: I was wondering if you had
[13:04] threediamondssl: But was told about you by those who interacted directly with you.
[13:04] Jae Staar: :-)
[13:05] satims: why don't you have a myspace Saul?
[13:05] Jae Staar: That's a nice thing to say...
[13:05] ForumLurkerOnAIM: This is where we all wonder/ask what was said about each of us..
[13:05] ForumLurkerOnAIM: lol
[13:05] PainfulEuphemism: I know, seriously
[13:05] threediamondssl: Some of us will.  Some won't.  I have given you much more of me already than I could on a myspace page.
[13:05] PainfulEuphemism: "what did they say about superscary creepy stalker Erin?"
[13:05] satims: I think we have created a really strong group of people. 
[13:05] threediamondssl: You have.
[13:05] ZiiONIC34: a lot can be said with words and pictures 3d
[13:05] threediamondssl: Well, also I have said much in here.
[13:05] satims: it surprises me how close we have become and we never have met
[13:05] sc4r3m0ng3rr: quite true saul.
[13:05] ForumLurkerOnAIM: a picture says 1000 words
[13:06] Theravencries45: lol say here satims
[13:06] threediamondssl: satims, you are a special collection of people.
[13:06] ForumLurkerOnAIM: a motley crue
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[13:06] threediamondssl: I believe that might make Jonah Vince Neil
[13:06] satims: i just don't want your messages to be overshadowed by the choice we have to make
[13:06] ForumLurkerOnAIM: heh
[13:06] satims: :)
[13:06] canyoubemydad: Hello, everyone
[13:06] threediamondssl: I can have the occasional moment of wit.
[13:06] ZiiONIC34: haha
[13:06] PainfulEuphemism: Ha.
[13:06] satims: that is good
[13:06] zomghentai: lol
[13:06] threediamondssl: I use my pain to create.
[13:07] PainfulEuphemism: I'm about as sharp as a brick wall, Saul.
[13:07] threediamondssl: I channel it.
[13:07] PainfulEuphemism: Someone's gotta be creative.
[13:07] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i can relate entirely.
[13:07] zomghentai: pain is definitely the mother of creation
[13:07] ZiiONIC34: pain often leads to inspiration
[13:07] sc4r3m0ng3rr: that's how i write music.
[13:07] ForumLurkerOnAIM: I don't create.. I react off of other's creations...
[13:07] satims: Have you discussed the cause of your pain Saul? I was in here late
[13:07] threediamondssl: I don't seek it, but it finds me.  When it does, I make the most of it.
[13:07] threediamondssl: The cause?  Myself, often.
[13:07] zomghentai: I can relate, Saul.
[13:07] Jae Staar: The choices you make can often lead to pain...
[13:07] threediamondssl: I have been given a good mind, I fail to use it sometimes.
[13:08] ForumLurkerOnAIM: same
[13:08] PainfulEuphemism: I understand completely, Saul.
[13:08] satims: i suffered great pain recently and I didn't channel it properly. It lead to more pain. I am starting to see the light out of that now
[13:08] threediamondssl: Yes.
[13:08] threediamondssl: Deal with it when it arrives.
[13:08] threediamondssl: Don't stuff it.
[13:08] satims: i know. 
[13:08] threediamondssl: It will rear its ugly head down the road.
[13:08] ForumLurkerOnAIM: cross that bridge when you get to it
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[13:08] canyoubemydad: Do you think you should deal with stuff yet to happen?
[13:08] satims: It cause huge problems for me. I will discuss this with all of you one day.
[13:08] Theravencries45: you have such wisdom Saul
[13:08] threediamondssl: Whether you deal with it when it arrives or later, it will require that you deal with it at some point
[13:08] satims: I think I can learn a lot this week
[13:09] threediamondssl: CanYouBeMyDad, why grieve what hasn't happened?
[13:09] PainfulEuphemism: I dealt with pain and depression poorly in high school.
[13:09] threediamondssl: I did as well
[13:09] satims: me too
[13:09] PainfulEuphemism: with knives.
[13:09] canyoubemydad: I don't know some people do
[13:09] ForumLurkerOnAIM: You never know you learned something, until you have
[13:09] threediamondssl: I had no voice to speak about it.
[13:09] Jae Staar: I dealth with depression very poorly in college...
[13:09] waitress200699: I agree, deal with sadness when the time actually arises
[13:09] PainfulEuphemism: and locking myself in my room alone.
[13:09] ZiiONIC34: i turned to drug
[13:09] zomghentai: I just whine and make art.
[13:09] ZiiONIC34: s
[13:09] threediamondssl: Ziionic, many of us have.
[13:09] satims: i dealth with grief by escaping. It almost lead me to jail
[13:09] canyoubemydad: :)
[13:09] satims: i can't believe I typed that
[13:09] zomghentai: Oh and drugs.
[13:09] PainfulEuphemism: Drugs I didn't turn to
[13:10] ZiiONIC34: and sometimes you don't know that you're addicted until you become sick
[13:10] threediamondssl: Cathartic, no?  Michele?
[13:10] Theravencries45: I deal with my pain by writeing 
[13:10] ZiiONIC34: and dont know yourself
[13:10] PainfulEuphemism: I turned to other self-destructive behaviors.
[13:10] satims: i don't know
[13:10] threediamondssl: I don't think any one here thinks any less of you.
[13:10] Jae Staar: Writing became a good outlet for me.
[13:10] threediamondssl: I highly doubt they do.
[13:10] sc4r3m0ng3rr: not at all.
[13:10] zomghentai: I guess I haven't burned my suitcase yet.
[13:10] PainfulEuphemism: Nope.
[13:10] Theravencries45: me as wel jae
[13:10] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i turned to drugs, as well as hate.
[13:10] PainfulEuphemism: I'm afraid I'll burn down the house if I try to burn a briefcase :/
[13:10] legatogunsmoke: everyone seems to be letting it out. we are relating... making this more family than before
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[13:11] PainfulEuphemism: Thank you, Saul.
[13:11] Jae Staar: yes...
[13:11] Theravencries45: yea everyday it seems that we become closer
[13:11] zomghentai: o and meaningless sex
[13:11] ZiiONIC34: i dont anymore glad to say ive been clean of eveyrthing but cigarettes and occasional alcohol for at least 6 months
[13:11] PainfulEuphemism: Honestly. Thank you.
[13:11] EdithAnnAim: so the briefcase is a metaphor for the baggage we carry around from our past?
[13:11] threediamondssl: Yes.
[13:11] canyoubemydad: Thanks 3D for talking to the aces like you did I have a lot of respect for that kind of thing :)
[13:11] threediamondssl: I burned a literal briefcase as well.
[13:11] threediamondssl: Dad, you are welcome.
[13:11] EdithAnnAim: we noticed
[13:11] PainfulEuphemism: *giggle*
[13:11] PainfulEuphemism: calling Init Dad. Haha.
[13:11] Jae Staar: hehe
[13:11] Theravencries45: lol
[13:11] TA Sasuke: um saul
[13:12] TA Sasuke: wat was up with that video of the red liquid?
[13:12] threediamondssl: I had to shorten it
[13:12] waitress200699: if the real briefcase represents the metaphor briefcase to you it works better
[13:12] sc4r3m0ng3rr: saul, you've done so much for us.
[13:12] threediamondssl: TA, what do you think?
[13:12] TA Sasuke: that vid creeped me out.
[13:12] threediamondssl: Good
[13:12] ZiiONIC34: what do you think it represented
[13:12] PainfulEuphemism: It made me cry.
[13:12] zomghentai: i think i missed that
[13:12] threediamondssl: It make an impact.
[13:12] threediamondssl: It made a point.
[13:12] PainfulEuphemism: But Saul's aware of that, I'm sure.
[13:12] Theravencries45: it was sad
[13:12] legatogunsmoke: the point seems to escape me though
[13:12] Jae Staar: It was sad indeed
[13:12] ZiiONIC34: makes you feel alone
[13:12] legatogunsmoke: i must be thichk headed today
[13:13] threediamondssl: Can someone reinvite satims please
[13:13] threediamondssl: It won't let me
[13:13] waitress200699: she had to leave
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[13:13] waitress200699: she asked me to keep the log
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[13:13] waitress200699: oh
[13:13] satims: hi again
[13:13] zomghentai: satims, i
[13:13] Theravencries45: hi ;-)
[13:13] satims: I keep losin my connection today
[13:13] zomghentai: 'm sorry you're having net problems
[13:13] satims: me too
[13:13] canyoubemydad: :(
[13:13] TA Sasuke: OWWWW
[13:13] zomghentai: i know how frustrating that is
[13:13] threediamondssl: satims, I think you missed something important when you left the room.
[13:13] satims: I missed everything
[13:13] canyoubemydad: have you smacked your router yet?
[13:14] PainfulEuphemism: and it made me feel very very alone, Saul.
[13:14] satims: can someone paste it to me in a IM
[13:14] waitress200699: 3d, Nikki said to say hi for her :-)
[13:14] TA Sasuke: someone punched me in the arm today and it rly hurts bad
[13:14] threediamondssl: one moment
[13:14] Theravencries45: brb 
[13:14] TA Sasuke: k
[13:14] satims: thank you 
[13:14] canyoubemydad: TA, why did they puch you in the arm
[13:14] Jae Staar: what happened TA?
[13:14] TA Sasuke: cuz
[13:14] TA Sasuke: it wasnt serious
[13:14] legatogunsmoke: Something is still bugging me
[13:14] canyoubemydad: did you ask for it
[13:14] TA Sasuke: i just killed him
[13:14] TA Sasuke: :-D
[13:14] satims: one day I will open up. I think I cna teach a few things myself
[13:14] TA Sasuke: and then he was a zombie...
[13:14] PainfulEuphemism: What's that, legato?
[13:15] TA Sasuke: and then he punched me
[13:15] threediamondssl: hrmmm
[13:15] legatogunsmoke: Saul, if our past is the metaphor for the burning... what was really in the suitcase... physically
[13:15] canyoubemydad: I would have punched you to :)
[13:15] TA Sasuke: SHUT UP
[13:15] TA Sasuke: lol
[13:15] TA Sasuke: um
[13:15] ForumLurkerOnAIM: *goes and sits in the corner of the room, watching everyone solemnly...*
[13:15] TA Sasuke: old emails from us would be something in the bc
[13:15] PainfulEuphemism: same, Lurker. I'm trying to stay quiet
[13:15] zomghentai: solemn is a good word
[13:15] ZiiONIC34: as am i
[13:15] zomghentai: for this
[13:15] TA Sasuke: as in something from the past
[13:16] legatogunsmoke: true
[13:16] valrikhbf: same here
[13:16] legatogunsmoke: but it has to be more
[13:16] PainfulEuphemism: I should have burned my diary.
[13:16] threediamondssl: Legato, it's not what was in the briefcase.  It's what used to be in the briefcase.
[13:16] legatogunsmoke: its making a statement
[13:16] canyoubemydad: 3d what do you think about "burning man" where they create art. then set it on fire. I would think you would really like that idea, do you?
[13:16] satims: i don't know why I am reflected in the past so much today
[13:16] zomghentai: Saul, you are a wonderful card.
[13:16] legatogunsmoke: we're getting somewhere
[13:16] threediamondssl: Thank you.
[13:16] threediamondssl: CanYouBe, yes.
[13:16] ZiiONIC34: i wish you could burn memories
[13:16] threediamondssl: That appeals
[13:16] TA Sasuke: i just like fire :-D
[13:16] ZiiONIC34: rather than just material things
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[13:16] threediamondssl: zomghentai, what other name do you go by?
[13:17] zomghentai: Miss Temptation / Missy
[13:17] sc4r3m0ng3rr: but without those memories, you wouldn't be who you are today.
[13:17] satims: true
[13:17] ZiiONIC34: exactly
[13:17] legatogunsmoke: what USED to be in the briefcase then?
[13:17] threediamondssl: I use the memories to learn.
[13:17] canyoubemydad: I was in a briefcase once
[13:17] threediamondssl: It took a while though.
[13:17] zomghentai: Yes I wouldn't lose any memories.
[13:17] ZiiONIC34: i do as well 3d
[13:17] satims: they can be sometime painful memories, but I take joy in knowing I got through those times 
[13:17] sc4r3m0ng3rr: it usually does.
[13:17] satims: my life is better for irt
[13:17] zomghentai: well, except the time i walked in on my dad having sex with my stepmom
[13:17] threediamondssl: Some of us need to pick up the snake fifteen times and be bitten fifteen times to get the message
[13:17] sc4r3m0ng3rr: exactly.
[13:17] Jae Staar: yeah, satims I can relate.
[13:17] ForumLurkerOnAIM: <nbnewell> tell him sorry i missed him and I hope to catch up w/ him later in the week
[13:17] ZiiONIC34: but first i shut out the memories and focused on what would make me "FEEL BETTER" that moment
[13:18] satims: i have to hit my own rock bottom before I could make improvements
[13:18] threediamondssl:  Thank you lurker 
  
[13:18] Theravencries45: saul your right allthough that made you sound like my dad lol
[13:18] canyoubemydad: Can you still learn if you watch someone else pick up the snake 15 times?
[13:18] threediamondssl: CanYouBe, yes
[13:18] threediamondssl: Many don't have to make the mistake
[13:18] canyoubemydad: ;),
[13:18] threediamondssl: I am in love with someone who learned from others mistakes
[13:18] PainfulEuphemism: ah, love.
[13:18] satims: me too
[13:18] legatogunsmoke: tell us about your love
[13:18] Jae Staar: love is a splendid thing
[13:19] satims: he learned from mine
[13:19] sc4r3m0ng3rr: for some odd reason, not only did i get bit constantly, but i watched someone make the mistake over and over.
[13:19] sc4r3m0ng3rr: and still continued to give it a try.
[13:19] ZiiONIC34: love heals often and hurts more often i say
[13:19] threediamondssl: My love is quiet, humble, shy, and forgiving.
[13:19] threediamondssl: She is a painter.
[13:19] satims: sounds like mine
[13:19] zomghentai: Learned from others and didn't make them herself?
[13:19] threediamondssl: Yes
[13:19] threediamondssl: Didn't need to get bit to learn the lesson
[13:19] satims: yes, my fiance learned from my mistakes
[13:19] ZiiONIC34: well that is great
[13:19] canyoubemydad: Question for you 3d, Pick one of the three.  Hammer, light post, or looking out a window.?
[13:19] legatogunsmoke: she learn by watching you?
[13:19] threediamondssl: Window
[13:19] zomghentai: I wish I was more like that.
[13:19] satims: and changed because of it
[13:19] canyoubemydad: :), thought so, 
[13:20] threediamondssl: One moment.  Phone call.  I am sorry.
[13:20] sc4r3m0ng3rr: no problem.
[13:20] waitress200699: np
[13:20] Theravencries45: np
[13:20] canyoubemydad: p
[13:20] sc4r3m0ng3rr: you don't need to apologize.
[13:20] legatogunsmoke: CanYouBe... where did that question com from?
[13:20] legatogunsmoke: haha
[13:20] canyoubemydad: my GF
[13:20] ForumLurkerOnAIM: in regards to love..  (Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-KX3XuUXpc)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-KX3XuUXpc
[13:20] ForumLurkerOnAIM: *inno*
[13:20] legatogunsmoke: does it mean something if you pick a particular object?
[13:21] canyoubemydad: it does
[13:21] canyoubemydad: one sec and I will write it out.
[13:21] ZiiONIC34: haha lurker
[13:21] legatogunsmoke: ok
[13:21] ZiiONIC34: love stinks yeaheeeeyeah
[13:21] Theravencries45: lol
[13:21] satims: i used to think that
[13:21] PainfulEuphemism: It stinks and it's wonderful all at the same time
[13:21] ZiiONIC34: i know it not true when you find your true love
[13:22] PainfulEuphemism: It consumes you whole and yet leaves you cold all at the same time
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[13:22] PainfulEuphemism: you feel so complete and so completely alone
[13:22] Theravencries45: it stinks when the other person dosent have the same feelings as you towards them
[13:22] satims: i have been through that
[13:22] ZiiONIC34: been through that as well raven
[13:22] threediamondssl: I am back.
[13:22] ForumLurkerOnAIM: wb
[13:22] zomghentai: wb
[13:22] PainfulEuphemism: Or at least, that's my experience with love.
[13:22] Theravencries45: wb
[13:22] satims: are you a painter Saul?
[13:22] PainfulEuphemism: welcome back, Saul.
[13:22] threediamondssl: I am very impressed.
[13:23] threediamondssl: I paint.  I have one painting I have been working on for four years.
[13:23] threediamondssl: I keep messing with it.
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[13:23] threediamondssl: Redoing it.
[13:23] PainfulEuphemism: I've painted.
[13:23] threediamondssl: Starting over.
[13:23] ForumLurkerOnAIM: it must be 2 inches thick
[13:23] satims: I was curious what kind of art you prusue
[13:23] threediamondssl: Yes
[13:23] PainfulEuphemism: I work with colored pencils more often.
[13:23] threediamondssl: I do photography
[13:23] ZiiONIC34: what kind of painting does you love do?
[13:23] ZiiONIC34: photography is my art
[13:23] threediamondssl: My love does amazing acrylic work
[13:23] Theravencries45: cool i love photography :-)
[13:23] valrikhbf: Hooray photography!
[13:23] satims: will we see some of your art this week?
[13:23] zomghentai: If you work on a painting so long... you'll lose several paintings in the process.
[13:24] PainfulEuphemism: I'm a sham of an artist. :)
[13:24] ZiiONIC34: horray for hopefully my new digital rebel lol
[13:24] PainfulEuphemism: I call myself one, but...
[13:24] PainfulEuphemism: *shrug*
[13:24] threediamondssl: I have shown what I can show at the moment.  Some of my poetry.
[13:24] threediamondssl: My paintings are all so unfinished.
[13:24] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i dig your poetry.
[13:24] threediamondssl: Never... quite.... right
[13:24] legatogunsmoke: may we also see some of your loves work, as well?
[13:24] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Art is never done
[13:24] PainfulEuphemism: I understand that, Saul.
[13:24] threediamondssl: My love may appear somewhere down the line.
[13:24] ZiiONIC34: do you often leave things unfinished Saul?
[13:24] zomghentai: I think each bit of the process is a work of art in itself.
[13:24] Theravencries45: is your love a card?
[13:24] threediamondssl: No, I keep working on them.
[13:24] legatogunsmoke: is your love part of the decl?
[13:24] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Lady Saul is a card as well?
[13:24] threediamondssl: I set them aside for a long time.
[13:24] threediamondssl: She may be.
[13:25] waitress200699: your love is a member of the deck?
[13:25] satims: 2D made me realize how artistic I am.
[13:25] satims: i think you will to
[13:25] threediamondssl: 2D is an amazing man.
[13:25] PainfulEuphemism: I miss him terribly.
[13:25] satims: i wish I got to know him better
[13:25] Jae Staar: :-D
[13:25] threediamondssl: Domenic is a very introspective and caring man.
[13:25] satims: maybe I will if he stays
[13:25] legatogunsmoke: i didnt have the pleasure of speking with him
[13:25] PainfulEuphemism: I have an email open I've deleted and started over to him three times.
[13:25] satims: he never told us his name 
[13:25] threediamondssl: He can be private.  He opens up over time.
[13:25] threediamondssl: If given the chance.
[13:25] ZiiONIC34: sounds like me
[13:26] zomghentai: So 2D would have more to tell us if he stayed around?
[13:26] Theravencries45: yea same here lol
[13:26] satims: i think so
[13:26] waitress200699: 2d reminds me of a stern father :-)
[13:26] threediamondssl: I think he has good things to say.  People often don't care to listen.
[13:26] Jae Staar: :-)
[13:26] satims: i think 2d should stay.. my two cents
[13:26] sc4r3m0ng3rr: as do i
[13:26] threediamondssl: He doesn't sugar coat it.
[13:26] PainfulEuphemism: I tried to listen, Saul.
[13:26] sc4r3m0ng3rr: the truth can be hard to swallow.
[13:26] PainfulEuphemism: I tried to get others to listen, too.
[13:26] threediamondssl: Yes
[13:26] Theravencries45: yea that could be good sometimes sugar coating is bad
[13:26] ZiiONIC34: i sadly hadn't become a passanger yet
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[13:26] ForumLurkerOnAIM: a jagged little pill
[13:26] ZiiONIC34: so have had the chance to talk to him
[13:27] ZiiONIC34: haven't*
[13:27] PainfulEuphemism: Email him now, Zii.
[13:27] sc4r3m0ng3rr: do you know rose personally as well?
[13:27] threediamondssl: Yes
[13:27] ZiiONIC34: i think i will, but dont know where to start... my email are often short and to the point
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[13:27] PainfulEuphemism: As are his, Zii.
[13:27] zomghentai: thank you
[13:27] Theravencries45: np
[13:27] threediamondssl: If Rose were to write an autobio, I would suggest it being called "Lost In Translation."
[13:27] PainfulEuphemism: You'd be in good company.
[13:27] ZiiONIC34: i enjoyed talking to rose and her emails
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[13:28] zomghentai: haha
[13:28] waitress200699: lol
[13:28] Jae Staar: lol
[13:28] zomghentai: rose is a character
[13:28] threediamondssl: Yes
[13:28] sc4r3m0ng3rr: funny. but i see the underlying point as well.
[13:28] Jae Staar: yes she is
[13:28] threediamondssl: Very high energy
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[13:28] Theravencries45: hyperactive more like it lol
[13:28] canyoubemydad: rose is mean
[13:28] ForumLurkerOnAIM: like one of them tiny yapping puppies..
[13:28] ZiiONIC34: do you know jane personally?
[13:28] ZiiONIC34: saul
[13:29] threediamondssl: Rose is mean?
[13:29] waitress200699: some people think she is mean
[13:29] threediamondssl: I know Jane via the phone and email.
[13:29] waitress200699: she wasn't to me
[13:29] canyoubemydad: yes, having all the passengers go around disturping other peoples forums
[13:29] ZiiONIC34: jane was very nice and sweet as well
[13:29] threediamondssl: It was silliness to her.
[13:29] threediamondssl: It wasn't meant to be mean.
[13:29] EdithAnnAim: noone was forced BYB
[13:29] PainfulEuphemism: Saul, have you ever had the overwhelming feeling that you're lost in a hurricane?
[13:29] threediamondssl: I think people missed the point
[13:30] ForumLurkerOnAIM: byb?
[13:30] ZiiONIC34: she was having fun
[13:30] valrikhbf: Saul, how much of a role did religion play in your return to the path?
[13:30] threediamondssl: Painful, yes.  Like right now.
[13:30] EdithAnnAim: CYB...
[13:30] PainfulEuphemism: Same...
[13:30] threediamondssl: Valrik, ask Mike Doughty
[13:30] waitress200699: google mike doughty
[13:30] ZiiONIC34: or that you're in the eye of the hurricane and don't know how to get out?
[13:30] threediamondssl: The last thing Rose had in mind was hurting people's feelings
[13:30] valrikhbf: I don't have Mike in a chatroom.
[13:30] zomghentai: googling
[13:31] ForumLurkerOnAIM: :-)
[13:31] threediamondssl: In fact, she asked someone to tone down the language at one point.
[13:31] PainfulEuphemism: Yes, she did.
[13:31] waitress200699: we love rose
[13:31] threediamondssl: My impression of her intent was fun, and of course, chaos
[13:31] waitress200699: please don't think we don't love her
[13:31] canyoubemydad: I just didn't agree so I didn't do it. :)
[13:31] threediamondssl: Well done.
[13:31] Theravencries45: nike doughty was a rocker who  over came his addiction
[13:31] threediamondssl: You made the right choice.
[13:31] Theravencries45: mike*
[13:32] threediamondssl: What other names do I know all of you by from your MySpace pages?
[13:32] PainfulEuphemism: <-- Erin Elizabeth, formerly Aeryn
[13:32] legatogunsmoke: Legatogun[manifesto]
[13:32] Theravencries45: <----Raven
[13:32] waitress200699: analog watch
[13:32] threediamondssl: Are you watch, Erin?
[13:32] PainfulEuphemism: ... yes, I am
[13:32] ForumLurkerOnAIM: <-- -AIM
[13:32] Jae Staar: < --------- Jae
[13:32] Jae Staar: Duh.
[13:32] Jae Staar: lol
[13:32] canyoubemydad: <---init_6
[13:32] valrikhbf: <-- Michael 
[13:32] zomghentai: Miss Temptation
[13:32] ZiiONIC34: <--- ZiiONIC lol or Brandon
[13:33] EdithAnnAim: I guess I'm the boring one!  What you see is what you get!!
[13:33] legatogunsmoke: <--- im also michael...
[13:33] sc4r3m0ng3rr: <-- scaremongerR ;)
[13:33] sc4r3m0ng3rr: haha
[13:33] Theravencries45: lol edith
[13:33] ForumLurkerOnAIM: (Link: http://www.myspace.com/forumlurker)http://www.myspace.com/forumlurker
[13:33] threediamondssl: What about Falcorin and CYBMD
[13:33] PainfulEuphemism: CYBMD is Init_6
[13:33] Jae Staar: i would have never guessed forumlurker! lol
[13:33] waitress200699: falcorin is timestalker
[13:33] Falcorin:  Timestalker and Psyche
[13:33] canyoubemydad: no i am not
[13:33] canyoubemydad: <---is init_6
[13:33] ZiiONIC34: (Link: http://www.myspace.com/blarson)http://www.myspace.com/blarson
[13:33] ForumLurkerOnAIM: I am thinking about finally opening up enough to tell everyone my real name.. only 1 fellow passenger knows it
[13:34] threediamondssl: So am I correct in saying that everyone has 8,234,982 names?
[13:34] threediamondssl: (humor, again)
[13:34] PainfulEuphemism: Hahaha.
[13:34] Jae Staar: yes!
[13:34] canyoubemydad: :)
[13:34] Theravencries45: lol
[13:34] zomghentai: Haha
[13:34] EdithAnnAim: not me
[13:34] sc4r3m0ng3rr: actually, you would be correct.
[13:34] threediamondssl: Edith Ann, I know of you.
[13:34] threediamondssl: Believe me.
[13:34] zomghentai: its the internet who doesn't?
[13:34] PainfulEuphemism: Everyone knows of Edith.
[13:34] threediamondssl: A certain primate won't shut up about you.
[13:34] ZiiONIC34: haha
[13:34] EdithAnnAim: ack
[13:34] Jae Staar: lol
[13:34] Theravencries45: LOL
[13:34] canyoubemydad: lol, I am a dork, i thought CYBMD was another name in here but that is me. shakes head (god I am dumb sometimes0
[13:34] ZiiONIC34: humor again
[13:34] ZiiONIC34: see you're a funny guy
[13:34] waitress200699: all the males are in love with edith
[13:34] waitress200699: :-D
[13:34] PainfulEuphemism: (and someof the females)
[13:35] Theravencries45: lol
[13:35] ForumLurkerOnAIM: lol
[13:35] threediamondssl: You are making me smile
[13:35] EdithAnnAim: oh my
[13:35] sc4r3m0ng3rr: everyone is in love with edith?
[13:35] EdithAnnAim: boys boys
[13:35] zomghentai: How nice for edith :p
[13:35] sc4r3m0ng3rr: wow... i missed something.
[13:35] Theravencries45: you  never know edith
[13:35] Jae Staar: :-)
[13:35] Theravencries45: ;-)
[13:35] Jae Staar: edith watch out!
[13:35] PainfulEuphemism: I'm trying to lurk more in the back now.
[13:35] waitress200699: look at edith's pics scare
[13:35] waitress200699: then you'll understand
[13:35] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i've seen them.
[13:35] canyoubemydad: edith is a chick
[13:35] legatogunsmoke: theres like 6 engagement rings waiting for you edith
[13:35] EdithAnnAim: Lurker...you should introduce yourself, or let the certain someone do it....
[13:35] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i never said she wasn't beautiful.
[13:36] EdithAnnAim: Stop talking about me!!!
[13:36] ForumLurkerOnAIM: change of subject there EA?
[13:36] ForumLurkerOnAIM: lol
[13:36] EdithAnnAim: gosh
[13:36] Theravencries45: so if one doesnt work out she has a line 
[13:36] sc4r3m0ng3rr: edith 
[13:36] sc4r3m0ng3rr: edith
[13:36] sc4r3m0ng3rr: edith
[13:36] waitress200699: we love you edith
[13:36] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Ok.. Attention Please..
[13:36] PainfulEuphemism: Saul, I'm sorry.
[13:36] EdithAnnAim: legt e
[13:36] sc4r3m0ng3rr: we're done.
[13:36] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Edith-Ann has something to say..
[13:36] EdithAnnAim: YAY!
[13:36] satims: hi again
[13:36] EdithAnnAim: can I really
[13:36] zomghentai: hi satims
[13:36] ForumLurkerOnAIM: yes.. if they will listen
[13:36] PainfulEuphemism: *listening*
[13:36] satims: i can stay on until my boyfriend makes me go to the store
[13:36] satims: :)
[13:36] threediamondssl: One moment all
[13:36] EdithAnnAim: Ladies and Gentlemen
[13:36] ZiiONIC34: Saul are we overwealming you?
[13:36] EdithAnnAim: It is my extreme pleaseure to introduce to you
[13:37] EdithAnnAim: for the first time in public,
[13:37] ForumLurkerOnAIM: heh
[13:37] EdithAnnAim: Jon
[13:37] waitress200699: your love?
[13:37] PainfulEuphemism: Nice to met you, Jon :D
[13:37] EdithAnnAim: in a way waitress
[13:37] Jae Staar: Nice to meet you Jon!
[13:37] sc4r3m0ng3rr: hi Jon.
[13:37] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Hello everyone...
[13:37] Jae Staar: :-)
[13:37] zomghentai: hi Jon :-)
[13:37] satims: what???
[13:37] Theravencries45: hi Jon :-)
[13:37] PainfulEuphemism: Feels weird calling you Jon D:
[13:37] waitress200699: hi jon
[13:37] ZiiONIC34: Jon is my middle name
[13:37] PainfulEuphemism: I've known you as Lurker for so long, lol
[13:37] ForumLurkerOnAIM: yes.. it does
[13:37] satims: you two know each other?
[13:38] Jae Staar: My exboyfriend's name is Jon. 
[13:38] Jae Staar: lol
[13:38] ForumLurkerOnAIM: :P
[13:38] Theravencries45: lol
[13:38] EdithAnnAim: no, I just bullied him
[13:38] EdithAnnAim: :-)
[13:38] waitress200699: :-D
[13:38] zomghentai: haha ok 3D said one moment
[13:38] satims: sorry I am not underanding
[13:38] Jae Staar: :-D
[13:38] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Michele.. Hi, I am Jon
[13:38] satims: i got that
[13:38] ForumLurkerOnAIM: that's it
[13:38] satims: oh
[13:38] satims: lol
[13:38] threediamondssl: I am back.
[13:38] satims: hello
[13:38] Theravencries45: lol
[13:38] zomghentai: wb
[13:38] Jae Staar: Welcome Back
[13:38] PainfulEuphemism: Welcome back, Saul.
[13:38] Theravencries45: wb
[13:38] satims: i am here for a little while
[13:39] PainfulEuphemism: I feel like I'm dominating. :/
[13:39] satims: i hope you will be able to keep us straight
[13:39] Jae Staar: You're a dominatrix...
[13:39] PainfulEuphemism: ...
[13:39] waitress200699: we are easy to keep straight
[13:39] PainfulEuphemism: Not what I meant...
[13:39] Theravencries45: .....
[13:39] satims: i will start signing my emails satims/michele, if that helps
[13:39] canyoubemydad: so 3D, do you have a MS?
[13:39] threediamondssl: No.
[13:39] sc4r3m0ng3rr: good.
[13:39] canyoubemydad: ok
[13:39] Jae Staar: :-S
[13:39] threediamondssl: Some of us will.  Some won't.
[13:39] waitress200699: do you have a facebook?
[13:39] sc4r3m0ng3rr: my advice... never get one.
[13:40] canyoubemydad: facebook?
[13:40] ForumLurkerOnAIM: lol
[13:40] canyoubemydad: j/k
[13:40] Theravencries45: lol
[13:40] zomghentai: o please no
[13:40] Jae Staar: facebook bad.
[13:40] ZiiONIC34: facebook = evil
[13:40] Jae Staar: lol
[13:40] canyoubemydad: friendster?
[13:40] zomghentai: *cringes*
[13:40] Theravencries45: twitch
[13:40] threediamondssl: The contact points I have provided for myself thus far are what exists
[13:40] PainfulEuphemism: Cloudy days are depressing. I wish it would hurry up and decide to rain or get sunny.
[13:40] ZiiONIC34: okay good to know
[13:40] Theravencries45: rain is fun : D
[13:40] zomghentai: Someone doesn't have to have a profile somewhere to exist
[13:41] sc4r3m0ng3rr: watch- is it cloudy out?
[13:41] PainfulEuphemism: I took pictures for Jane when it rained during her week.
[13:41] PainfulEuphemism: Yes, Scare, it is
[13:41] canyoubemydad: lol at zomghentai
[13:41] ZiiONIC34: so have any thing exciting going on this week Saul
[13:41] sc4r3m0ng3rr: okay.
[13:41] waitress200699: don't you have windows scare?
[13:41] PainfulEuphemism: It is on my side of the city-chunk, at least.
[13:41] satims: i wish I piocked just one name for this journey
[13:41] sc4r3m0ng3rr: not right here.
[13:41] zomghentai: almost feels that way anymore
[13:41] satims: I hate to confuse new cards
[13:41] canyoubemydad: yeah,
[13:41] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i rolled out of bed and straight to the computer.
[13:41] threediamondssl: Tyring to keep up
[13:41] Jae Staar: ME TOO scare.
[13:41] ZiiONIC34: haha
[13:41] ForumLurkerOnAIM: ok.. Saul.. you have spoken with us live for a while now.. so I have to ask..   How are we? 
[13:42] PainfulEuphemism: I confused Saul for being Erin/Euphemism/analogwatch :/
[13:42] threediamondssl: Busy
[13:42] ZiiONIC34: are we overwhelming you Saul
[13:42] threediamondssl: You are busy
[13:42] threediamondssl: And active
[13:42] satims: I am Michele/satims
[13:42] canyoubemydad: not me I ate at IHOP first then came home to the computer
[13:42] satims: just two
[13:42] PainfulEuphemism: and Erin silent.... now
[13:42] threediamondssl: And I am impressed with the fact that many of you are capable of being rather introspective
[13:42] threediamondssl: It is not easy to follow Rose's week with my week.
[13:43] waitress200699: weird mix, that's true
[13:43] ForumLurkerOnAIM: I drive a stick.. it's easy for me to switch gears
[13:43] legatogunsmoke: change of pace is fine
[13:43] Theravencries45: your doing a good job so far
[13:43] zomghentai: Definitely two different planes/
[13:43] ZiiONIC34: well the cards have there own personalities and are meant to be different
[13:43] Jae Staar: Yes... way different
[13:43] ZiiONIC34: sometimes extremely
[13:43] sc4r3m0ng3rr: lurker- same. 
[13:43] sc4r3m0ng3rr: whoooo stick!
[13:43] ForumLurkerOnAIM: *highfives*
[13:43] PainfulEuphemism: I can't drive stick very well :/
[13:43] Jae Staar: me  neither.
[13:43] PainfulEuphemism: But I don't have a license, so . . . I'm not supposed to be driving. Bahahaha.
[13:43] canyoubemydad: I can :)
[13:43] PainfulEuphemism: *silence again*
[13:43] sc4r3m0ng3rr: saul, can you drive a stick?
[13:44] threediamondssl: I haven't learned
[13:44] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i recommend it.
[13:44] ZiiONIC34: nor have i sadly...
[13:44] sc4r3m0ng3rr: it's fun.
[13:44] ForumLurkerOnAIM: My mommy told me.. "If you learn how to drive a stick, you can drive anything"
[13:45] ForumLurkerOnAIM: I like to think that has deeper meanings
[13:45] ForumLurkerOnAIM: :P
[13:45] Theravencries45: lol
[13:45] zomghentai: haha
[13:45] zomghentai: I was trying not to be lewd.
[13:45] zomghentai: That's hard for me.
[13:46] ForumLurkerOnAIM: is it "hard"?
[13:46] ForumLurkerOnAIM: lol
[13:46] zomghentai: boo!
[13:46] PainfulEuphemism: *groan*
[13:46] zomghentai: XD
[13:46] ForumLurkerOnAIM: sorry.. had to
[13:46] PainfulEuphemism: Geez. our first day with Saul and we're already being perverted.
[13:46] ForumLurkerOnAIM: we gots to be ourselves
[13:46] Theravencries45: lol thats not hard with this group :-)
[13:46] canyoubemydad: (Link: http://www.petafoo.com/files/images/guinea%20pig.preview.jpg)http://www.petafoo.com/files/images/guinea%20pig.preview.jpg
[13:46] canyoubemydad: later
[13:46] waitress200699: later
[13:46] PainfulEuphemism: bye:x
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[13:46] sc4r3m0ng3rr: ThreeDiamondsSL has left the room
[13:47] sc4r3m0ng3rr: lol
[13:47] waitress200699: I still see him here
[13:47] zomghentai: what happened?
[13:47] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i know.
[13:47] sc4r3m0ng3rr: bad joke.
[13:47] ZiiONIC34: i think it was a joke
[13:47] sc4r3m0ng3rr: nm.
[13:47] ZiiONIC34: lol
[13:47] waitress200699: boo
[13:47] ZiiONIC34: this room = rose
[13:47] ForumLurkerOnAIM: !!ooB
[13:47] ForumLurkerOnAIM: Any room with all of us is like that
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[13:47] satims: sorry guys
[13:47] satims: i hate my internet
[13:48] waitress200699: i hate your internet too :-)
[13:48] Theravencries45: lol we dont blame u blame the internets
[13:48] satims: =)
[13:48] satims: i was supopsed to go but erik is still watching football
[13:48] Jae Staar: :-o
[13:48] Jae Staar: i woke up to football.
[13:48] Theravencries45: lol darn football ruins everything j/k
[13:48] zomghentai: ew football
[13:49] Jae Staar: Saul?
[13:49] threediamondssl: Yes
[13:49] zomghentai: We've lost focus.
[13:49] Jae Staar: I have to admit something
[13:49] Jae Staar: I didn't think you'd be so open with us. But I'm glad you are
[13:49] satims: me too
[13:50] sc4r3m0ng3rr: as am i.
[13:50] Jae Staar: My first impression was strange...
[13:50] Theravencries45: me too
[13:50] zomghentai: Me too, very much so.
[13:50] sc4r3m0ng3rr: thanks saul.
[13:50] satims: I am happy
[13:50] zomghentai: This is as much as I've felt since I became a passenger.
[13:50] waitress200699: I am happy, a lot of people are sad
[13:50] satims: i wouldn't say sad.. I would say reflective
[13:50] PainfulEuphemism: You forced me to look at a part of myself I'm not proud of.
[13:50] Jae Staar: Yes, thank you. Your site, was kind of scary. I hope that doesn't offend you. lol. I think I missed the sybolism the first time around. 
[13:50] ForumLurkerOnAIM: <-- is a skeptic, and thinks Saul HAS to be so open with us because he's the new guy..    (I don't really think that too much, but it kind of makes sense)
[13:50] PainfulEuphemism: Oh, what the heck, Arizona!!
[13:50] satims: me too erin
[13:50] valrikhbf: email to Mike Doughty: Sent.
[13:50] PainfulEuphemism: I asked you to choose sun or rain and you chose BOTH
[13:51] Jae Staar: Mike Doughty????
[13:51] waitress200699: yes
[13:51] threediamondssl: Thank you Jae
[13:51] PainfulEuphemism: I'm looking out my window at sunshine and rain
[13:51] EdithAnnAim: its snowing again here!!
[13:51] EdithAnnAim: weird
[13:51] satims: it is so cold here
[13:51] satims: freezing rain
[13:51] Theravencries45: its the aliens makeing it snow
[13:51] Theravencries45: :-D
[13:52] ZiiONIC34: wow i've been so lazy today... i dont even know if its cold here or not
[13:52] PainfulEuphemism: But Saul, you made me look at a part of myself, a part of my past, that I am not proud of, a part I've tried repeatedly to bury... and I think what you've shown me is telling me I shouldn't bury it.
[13:52] threediamondssl: There you go.
[13:52] threediamondssl: Sort it out.
[13:52] satims: i don't think you should either erin
[13:52] threediamondssl: Even though some may not be sortable.
[13:52] satims: i had an experience like that
[13:52] PainfulEuphemism: Well, no.
[13:52] satims: if I ignore it and pretend it didn't happen, It may happen again
[13:52] Theravencries45: its good to look at the past but not live in it
[13:53] zomghentai: For me, its thinking that maybe I should be focused more on burning the suitcase.
[13:53] PainfulEuphemism: My past is repeatedly being pushed down into the mud, and repeatedly being spat on as I lay there bleeding.
[13:53] legatogunsmoke: i wanna burn a suitcase now
[13:53] PainfulEuphemism: I can't exactly sort that.
[13:53] satims: i think you remember what happeed to celebrate the fact that you got past it
[13:53] satims: does that make sense
[13:53] ZiiONIC34: but you can pick it up out of the mud and clean it off
[13:54] satims: 2 years ago I thought I would be dead today
[13:54] satims: honestly
[13:54] PainfulEuphemism: I've got... like, psychologist-quality issues.
[13:54] satims: i had no future
[13:54] Jae Staar: wow michele....
[13:54] threediamondssl: "Consequence of 2005"
[13:54] threediamondssl: Anyone notice that page?
[13:54] satims: it is really heavy
[13:54] PainfulEuphemism: Yes.
[13:54] sc4r3m0ng3rr: yes
[13:54] satims: i will discuss it someday.
[13:54] satims: I am not ready
[13:54] ZiiONIC34: if i continued on the "path" i was on i probably would be dead today
[13:54] threediamondssl: I sympathize with you all more than you realize
[13:54] threediamondssl: Michele, Watch, etc.
[13:55] satims: anyway, I honestly thought I would be dead. I knew I owuld be
[13:55] threediamondssl: "Consequence of 2005" page points to something.
[13:55] satims: i can't believe I am here.. 
[13:55] threediamondssl: I was at the same place Michele
[13:55] satims: it is a good think
[13:55] threediamondssl: at the same time
[13:55] satims: :)
[13:55] satims: really?
[13:55] satims: have you discussed your issue
[13:55] threediamondssl: Mine?
[13:55] satims: yes
[13:55] threediamondssl: With many people.
[13:55] PainfulEuphemism: In 2005 I was stuck in a dead-end relationship that ended violently and depressingly in 2006... and that's why I should've burned my diary.
[13:55] threediamondssl: On here?
[13:55] satims: I mean with us
[13:56] threediamondssl: I've made vague mentions.
[13:56] Jae Staar: wow...
[13:56] Theravencries45: know matter what you have done your a cool guy saul
[13:56] Jae Staar: Same with me Watch....
[13:56] satims: well you can share anyting with us if it would help you
[13:56] threediamondssl: ty
[13:56] satims: i hope no one thinks less of me
[13:56] PainfulEuphemism: No, Michele.
[13:57] Falcorin:  My doctor's currently helping me with self-esteem and ego issues...
[13:57] sc4r3m0ng3rr: not at all.
[13:57] satims: i am good person who made bad choices
[13:57] PainfulEuphemism: Everyone's made bad choices.
[13:57] sc4r3m0ng3rr: yeah.
[13:57] Theravencries45: yea 
[13:57] PainfulEuphemism: And we here, we all have so much in common.
[13:57] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i've made some REALLY REALLY bad choices.
[13:57] satims: that is what I meant by how we choose to deal with our pain.
[13:57] satims: I choose the wrong path
[13:57] ZiiONIC34: we all have made bad choices
[13:57] satims: but to be honest, my life is better for it
[13:57] ZiiONIC34: at some points in our lives
[13:57] PainfulEuphemism: How can I think any less of you when I've participated in self-destructive behavior for years and years?
[13:57] satims: we are all a lot alike.
[13:58] ZiiONIC34: i think mine is too michelle
[13:58] satims: funny how we all found ech other
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[13:58] zomghentai: I'
[13:58] Theravencries45: yea thats whats so cool about this we all are like familt now
[13:58] PainfulEuphemism: You have Lurker to thank for me being here.
[13:58] zomghentai: I'm so utilitarian.
[13:58] PainfulEuphemism: horse, hi
[13:58] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i don't believe it's coincidence.
[13:58] horseamongst: rh
[13:58] threediamondssl: No
[13:58] satims: i still wonder how 2C found me
[13:58] horseamongst: this is
[13:58] PainfulEuphemism: ah.
[13:58] threediamondssl: Not chance
[13:58] Theravencries45: neither do i scare
[13:58] legatogunsmoke: everyhting happens for a reason
[13:58] zomghentai: I'm wondering who made the worst choices.
[13:58] Jae Staar: yes, 
[13:58] ZiiONIC34: i dont even know how i came to be here lol
[13:58] Theravencries45: here we go with the destiney stuff lol
[13:58] Jae Staar: things happen for a reason
[13:59] ForumLurkerOnAIM: it's not a competition
[13:59] sc4r3m0ng3rr: satims- remember, you asked how they found you? when you weren't any part of the group.
[13:59] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i think there's something more to that.
[14:00] Falcorin:  Is it wrong of me to say that I feel like I connect better with this community than with almost my entire family?
[14:00] ForumLurkerOnAIM: nope.. I don't talk to my family
[14:00] threediamondssl: No, it is nice to have somewhere to feel connected
[14:00] horseamongst: i hope there is no 'fate'
[14:00] Jae Staar: ...
[14:00] horseamongst: i think i come back here for some reason on sundays even though i feel like its wasted often
[14:01] ZiiONIC34: there is fate but we decide the paths to take to get there
[14:01] threediamondssl: can someone else try inviting satims
[14:01] PainfulEuphemism: I think there's a fate, but I think it's malleable
[14:01] Theravencries45: aggred zii
[14:01] threediamondssl: Fate is malleable due to free will.
[14:01] sc4r3m0ng3rr: saul, do you mind if i send a PM real quick?
[14:01] threediamondssl: Please do.
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[14:01] satims: thanks.. last time I swear
[14:01] ZiiONIC34: wb
[14:01] horseamongst: like dominos
[14:01] PainfulEuphemism: Don't worry about it, Michele.
[14:01] satims: my boyfriernd wants to leave
[14:02] satims: scare I saw what you wrote.
[14:02] Jae Staar: lol. football game still? 
[14:02] satims: i agree.. there is more to do with it I think
[14:02] satims: it is still all so weird to me how they found me
[14:02] horseamongst: you can't go halfway with it. there is free will, or there are determined events.
[14:02] PainfulEuphemism: The choices you make lead you to determined events.
[14:03] Theravencries45: like flipping a coin?
[14:03] satims: some evening when everyone is up for a heavy story, I will hold story time
[14:03] PainfulEuphemism: That's what I believe.
[14:03] ForumLurkerOnAIM: choose your own adventure game
[14:03] horseamongst: what's saying that your choices weren't predetermined by other events?
[14:03] ForumLurkerOnAIM: left door, or right door
[14:03] satims: it might do me good to talk about it
[14:03] satims: if anyone is willing to listen
[14:03] zomghentai: I have to be going. 
[14:03] Theravencries45: i am more than willing to listen
[14:03] PainfulEuphemism: My story just comes out as a boo-hoo pity party, so I won't be sharing, I don't think.
[14:03] waitress200699: bye zomg
[14:03] PainfulEuphemism: bye, Missy
[14:03] PainfulEuphemism: :D
[14:03] Jae Staar: bye zomg
[14:03] zomghentai: bye see you all soon
[14:03] Theravencries45: bye miss
[14:03] horseamongst: storytelling party?
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[14:04] satims: a heavy storytelling party
[14:04] horseamongst: is that what this is?
[14:04] satims: tissue required
[14:04] satims: not now.. sometime
[14:04] horseamongst: okay, shoot
[14:04] satims: not now
[14:04] PainfulEuphemism: Not right now.
[14:04] horseamongst: ?
[14:04] threediamondssl: Not a pity party... one of the steps in healing yourself
[14:04] PainfulEuphemism: I don't want people telling me it's a pity party.
[14:05] PainfulEuphemism: So I likely won't share.
[14:05] horseamongst: i'm just wondering if story telling is what we're doing today
[14:05] EdithAnnAim: Saul, can you talk to us about the journey??
[14:05] satims: it isn't a pity party Erin to share how you feel
[14:05] threediamondssl: My journey
[14:05] threediamondssl: Or this journey
[14:05] EdithAnnAim: yes
[14:05] ForumLurkerOnAIM: both
[14:05] threediamondssl: In December of 2005, I spoke up.
[14:05] threediamondssl: In December of 2005, I climbed a mountain.
[14:05] threediamondssl: In January of 2006, I took huge steps to heal.
[14:06] threediamondssl: It has been a work in progress since then.
[14:06] satims: have you been able to continue to heal?
[14:06] threediamondssl: This journey?
[14:06] threediamondssl: So much to it.
[14:06] threediamondssl: I have been, satims.
[14:06] satims: me too
[14:06] threediamondssl: Sometimes I misstep however.
[14:06] PainfulEuphemism: Life itself is a work in progress/
[14:06] threediamondssl: What is vague now will be made clear on 11/11/08.
[14:07] threediamondssl: All the questions unanswered will be answered.
[14:07] satims: i know
[14:07] waitress200699: cool
[14:07] satims: i take comfort in that
[14:07] Theravencries45: i think everyone missteps now and then but it dosent make you less of a person if you do we all make mistakes
[14:07] ForumLurkerOnAIM: there are always more questions
[14:07] threediamondssl: You will get a session with the Aces where you can go, "What about that one time..."
[14:07] sc4r3m0ng3rr: wow.
[14:07] Jae Staar: :-o
[14:07] sc4r3m0ng3rr: sweet.
[14:07] satims: i thnk as long as you learn from mistakes, you can be forgiven by those you hurt
[14:07] threediamondssl: "How about when {insert card} said...."
[14:07] Theravencries45: lol i always like those sessions
[14:07] satims: cool
[14:08] threediamondssl: Satims is correct.
[14:08] threediamondssl: I have been forgiven.
[14:08] satims: me too
[14:08] threediamondssl: "The millionth second chance"
[14:08] EdithAnnAim: we will do it in person too :-)
[14:08] sc4r3m0ng3rr: oh no...
[14:08] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i have to leave.
[14:08] PainfulEuphemism: aw, Scare
[14:08] satims: i think we might have a lot in common Saul
[14:08] Theravencries45: bye scare
[14:08] PainfulEuphemism: can I ask you something, Scare?
[14:08] ForumLurkerOnAIM: later scaryspice..  drive safe
[14:08] threediamondssl: Goodbye Scare
[14:08] horseamongst: cool. if i make it a year, maybe i'll say 'oh, so it's been like talking and giving things to a statue, sure' or 'oh, it matters that i do anything here afterall. cool.'
[14:08] threediamondssl: nice to have met you
[14:08] sc4r3m0ng3rr: sure watch.
[14:08] EdithAnnAim: bye scare
[14:08] sc4r3m0ng3rr: you as well saul.
[14:08] PainfulEuphemism: Did you block your number when you called me? :P
[14:08] satims: if we want to talk about it, you know where I am.
[14:09] sc4r3m0ng3rr: i do it every time i call anyone.
[14:09] sc4r3m0ng3rr: it's habit.
[14:09] sc4r3m0ng3rr: sorry.
[14:09] PainfulEuphemism: it's okay, haha.
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[14:09] PainfulEuphemism: I was just wondering.
[14:09] I Love Pedobear: :3
[14:09] Theravencries45: lol
[14:09] waitress200699: loli is that you?
[14:09] PainfulEuphemism: yes
[14:09] I Love Pedobear: no! >:-D
[14:09] satims: lol
[14:09] waitress200699: hi loli
[14:09] I Love Pedobear: hello loves
[14:09] Jae Staar: :-)
[14:09] Jae Staar: hi loli
[14:09] Theravencries45: LOLI !!
[14:10] PainfulEuphemism: but Saul, thank you so, so much.
[14:10] PainfulEuphemism: Honestly.
[14:10] sc4r3m0ng3rr: later
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[14:10] waitress200699: later
[14:10] I Love Pedobear: jeez, i was just asleep, not gone forever
[14:10] Theravencries45: lol 
[14:10] Theravencries45: yea Saul dont be afraid to email me i am allways happy to listen :-D
[14:10] satims: me too.. 
[14:10] I Love Pedobear: who is saul?
[14:10] horseamongst: i wont
[14:11] satims: I have to go. I am losing my connection again
[14:11] PainfulEuphemism: 3D
[14:11] Jae Staar: 3D
[14:11] I Love Pedobear: :O
[14:11] I Love Pedobear: oh
[14:11] satims: the router lights are fading
[14:11] Theravencries45: nOoO not that satims
[14:11] satims: bye everyone
[14:11] I Love Pedobear: saul you can email me, too! we can talk about unicorns!
[14:11] threediamondssl: Sorry I am trying to keep up
[14:11] Theravencries45: bye
[14:11] PainfulEuphemism: bye, Michele.
[14:11] satims: yes, it is tragic
[14:11] I Love Pedobear: ilumichele
[14:11] Jae Staar: bye
[14:11] waitress200699: bye
[14:11] satims: nice talking to you Saul. I sent you an IM.
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[14:12] satims: bye
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[14:12] ForumLurkerOnAIM: ?
[14:12] waitress200699: wow this is weird
[14:12] Theravencries45: I have to go clean now lol nice to meet you Saul looking forward to talking to you again
[14:12] threediamondssl: Bye for now
[14:12] waitress200699: later raven
[14:12] I Love Pedobear: :-( everyone's leaving as i come in
[14:12] horseamongst: so, saul
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[14:12] waitress200699: it's not because of you loli :0
[14:13] horseamongst: does it matter if we do what we're told to here or not? or is it nothing
[14:13] I Love Pedobear: i bet it's because of me
[14:13] I Love Pedobear: ;D
[14:13] threediamondssl: Are you Loli?
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[14:13] I Love Pedobear: yes, i am loli
[14:13] horseamongst: we seem to keep doing tasks and nothing comes out of it
[14:13] horseamongst: it seems pointless
[14:13] horseamongst: is it?
[14:13] threediamondssl: Horse, what is upsetting you?
[14:13] I Love Pedobear: one of the points is to find enjoyment in art, if you're talking about SL as a whole
[14:14] horseamongst: this is rh. i can find art elsewhere, that i can interact with, and get something from
[14:14] threediamondssl: Everyone is going to get something different out of it.  If you get nothing, it is a waste of time for you.
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[14:14] Jae Staar: oooh
[14:14] horseamongst: i feel like i would be better off painting without this. i'll make something, or go out of my way, and there is nothing, no feedback, anything
[14:14] ZiiONIC34: thx Saul
[14:14] horseamongst: i get more feedback from nikki or fe.
[14:15] threediamondssl: What is the problem?  I am confused.
[14:15] threediamondssl: I just showed up today and someone is angry with me?
[14:15] I Love Pedobear: sigh
[14:15] horseamongst: i'm not angry.
[14:15] threediamondssl: Is this about the folding?
[14:15] horseamongst: i'm just asking.
[14:15] threediamondssl: Anger is coming across.
[14:15] threediamondssl: You seem angry.
[14:15] horseamongst: i don't know anything about cards. no, i guess you haven't heard about me then
[14:15] threediamondssl: If it is a waste of time for you, perhaps it is not for you.  I am sorry.
[14:16] Jae Staar: :-\
[14:16] horseamongst: i'm not saying it's a waste of time - i'm asking if it is.
[14:16] threediamondssl: Can someone bring me up to speed please?
[14:16] PainfulEuphemism: Only you can decide if it is.
[14:16] horseamongst: if there will ever be any point
[14:16] ZiiONIC34: i dont know whats going on either
[14:16] Jae Staar: I don;t know as well...
[14:16] threediamondssl: If you haven't seen several points already, you've missed a lot.
[14:16] horseamongst: unless we'll get a point on 11/11/08
[14:16] PainfulEuphemism: Only YOU can decide if it has a point, Rhe.
[14:16] PainfulEuphemism: Only YOU can decide if it's not a waste of time.
[14:16] PainfulEuphemism: Only YOU can decide if you want to continue.
[14:16] PainfulEuphemism: Not us, not the deck.
[14:16] ZiiONIC34: i've learned so much from being here just 2 weeks or so
[14:16] waitress200699: it's only rh that is having the problem saul, nobody else :-)
[14:17] I Love Pedobear: i have too, rhe
[14:17] valrikhbf: don't forget the bit about forest fires.
[14:17] horseamongst: will we ever recieve feedback for the stuff we do? the things we create?
[14:17] I Love Pedobear: so maybe you're doing it wrong
[14:17] threediamondssl: If you haven't seen several points already, you are not going to see any point at any time.
[14:17] threediamondssl: Who is not giving feedback?
[14:17] horseamongst: i feel like i'm throwing stuff at statues
[14:17] PainfulEuphemism: I've received feedback
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[14:17] threediamondssl: Who is not getting feedback?
[14:17] PainfulEuphemism: Loli's received feedback
[14:17] PainfulEuphemism: Lisa has
[14:17] PainfulEuphemism: Jake has
[14:17] horseamongst: i certainly have recieved 'oh thanks'
[14:17] threediamondssl: We have used art on the site, on the ms
[14:17] threediamondssl: Do you know how many passengers there are?
[14:17] horseamongst: sure.
[14:17] threediamondssl: And how much time is devoted to them?
[14:18] horseamongst: an email could help here and there.
[14:18] ForumLurkerOnAIM: No.. How many passengers are there.. really?  ballpark it?
[14:18] threediamondssl: I... I don't know what to say
[14:18] horseamongst: a response. the only time i get a response is when i'm a bitch.
[14:18] threediamondssl: Thank you all.  It's been fun.
[14:18] horseamongst: so i guess i'm bratty child syndroming it.
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