
Session Start: Sun Jan 04 14:19:16 2004
Session Ident: #caretaker
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[2:19pm] * Topic is 'What's Marcus telling us?'
[2:19pm] * Set by Caretaker on Fri Oct 17 15:30:45
12> Channel Modes: +r
12> Created on Saturday, December 27th, 2003 12at 9:58am
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[5:24pm] <Caretaker> hello?
[5:25pm] <RAMiles> Hello Caretaker
[5:25pm] <Caretaker> Hi there
[5:25pm] <RAMiles> whats going on
[5:25pm] <RAMiles> Things seemed to have gotten wiped from time
[5:25pm] <Caretaker> pardon?
[5:26pm] <RAMiles> Do you know who Jake Starkey is?
[5:26pm] <Caretaker> no
[5:26pm] <Caretaker> should I?
[5:26pm] <RAMiles> or john baxter
[5:26pm] <RAMiles> yes
[5:26pm] <Caretaker> I got a bizarre email that suggested I could
come here to find out more about it
[5:27pm] <Caretaker> since then, I've been flooded with more
bizarre email
[5:27pm] <RAMiles> From us the THINK TANK
[5:27pm] <Caretaker> yes, one from a think tank 
[5:27pm] <Caretaker> i recognise at least two of the nicks here
from email addresses
[5:27pm] <RAMiles> ok
[5:28pm] <RAMiles> one should be from MAGESTEFF
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[5:28pm] <RAMiles> hey addie
[5:28pm] <RAMiles> an other from Rasputin
[5:28pm] <Addlepated> Hello.
[5:28pm] <RAMiles> we believe that some how someone has altered the
time line
[5:28pm] <Addlepated> How are you, Caretaker?
[5:28pm] <Caretaker> hold on..
[5:28pm] <RAMiles> do you know of a NRU
[5:28pm] <RAMiles> ADDIE
[5:29pm] <Caretaker> what the hell are you talking about?
[5:29pm] <Caretaker> timeline? is someone monkeying with old
project management software?
[5:29pm] <RAMiles> Things have changed, not for the better
[5:29pm] <RAMiles> NO
[5:29pm] <Addlepated> I can try to explain, but I've got a slow
link - bear with me =)
[5:29pm] <RAMiles> more like time travel
[5:30pm] <RAMiles> going back in time and changing the past to
affect the present
[5:30pm] <RAMiles> You know of Spectrum
[5:30pm] <RAMiles> right
[5:30pm] <Addlepated> Caretaker, the research that Turgenev was
conducting about time travel came to fruition, and was successfully used in
the United States.
[5:31pm] <RAMiles> and we believe cus of it, the time we are in now
has been alterd to coverup something 
[5:31pm] <Addlepated> For some reason, something has altered the
timeline we are on now - it has taken a different direction, and in this
timeline, you (Caretaker) as well as the place where the research was
conducted (New River University) are not involved.
[5:31pm] <RAMiles> or no longer exsist
[5:31pm] <Addlepated> There is another reality out there in which
you are heavily involved and concerned with the direction that the time travel
research at NRU has taken.
[5:32pm] <RAMiles> Caretaker, does HCRD mean anything to you at all
[5:32pm] <Addlepated> Whether you believe this or not is the
sticking point - I realize that what we're saying is a bit beyond credulity.
[5:32pm] <Caretaker> just a bit
[5:32pm] <Caretaker> ok, a lot
[5:32pm] <Addlepated> Is there anything we can do in order to
convince you?
[5:33pm] <RAMiles> Caretaker, think really hard... what was the
last thing you were working on
[5:33pm] <Rasputin42x69> *unidles* Hello there
[5:33pm] <RAMiles> addie, he said he recognized nicks from the emails
[5:33pm] <Addlepated> For example, I have an email that you sent
detailing your history during the cold war, if that would help convince you
that you've been in contact with us before.
[5:33pm] <RAMiles> and you referd to us as your think tank
[5:34pm] <Caretaker> i trust what I can touch and feel
[5:34pm] <Caretaker> electronic records are too easily forged
[5:34pm] <Addlepated> I have a scanned picture of a note that you
gave me in Orlando.
[5:34pm] <RAMiles> Caretaker did you get a email from Rasputin with
attached info?
[5:34pm] <Rasputin42x69> Have you recieved my email?
[5:34pm] <RAMiles> just asked that
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[5:35pm] <Caretaker> i didn't get that
[5:36pm] <RAMiles> did you get one from me CT, from a Yahoo account?
[5:36pm] <Rasputin42x69> Hrm...
[5:36pm] <Caretaker> i did receive a message from you on the 31st
[5:36pm] <RAMiles> from me?
[5:36pm] <Caretaker> from Rasputin42x69
[5:36pm] <Caretaker> the last messages I received were yesterday
[5:36pm] <Caretaker> i received 3
[5:36pm] <RAMiles> possibily mine
[5:37pm] <RAMiles> to the blackvault account right:?
[5:37pm] <Caretaker> is your name Susan?
[5:37pm] <RAMiles> nope
[5:37pm] <RAMiles> did you recieve one from ramiles00
[5:37pm] <Rasputin42x69> I fired one off earlier today.
[5:37pm] <Caretaker> unless you are logged in twice, you aren't
magesteff
[5:37pm] <Caretaker> are you aaron?
[5:38pm] <Rasputin42x69> <-- Pat
[5:38pm] <RAMiles> <-Reid
[5:38pm] <Caretaker> sorry, nothing today
[5:38pm] <Rasputin42x69> Not sure who aaron is.
[5:39pm] <Rasputin42x69> Hrm.
[5:39pm] <Addlepated> Caretaker
[5:40pm] <Addlepated> do you have a Yahoo ID?
[5:40pm] <RAMiles> caretaker does the name shift mean anything to you
[5:40pm] <Caretaker> the email I received suggested you all might
be able to help me understand it
[5:41pm] <Caretaker> so far, i'm more confused and getting concerned
[5:41pm] <Addlepated> We will certainly try - which email, and what
do you need to understand?
[5:41pm] <Rasputin42x69> Not surprised.
[5:41pm] <RAMiles> I know time travel is a hard thing to swallow,
but its a reality thats why we are here to help you
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> I received a message on 30Dec through an
anonymous remailer 
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> it said
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> Maybe I'm going crazy.
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> Maybe the coma was real.
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> Maybe Meg is right.
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> But then, who are you?
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> -j
[5:42pm] <Rasputin42x69> Has to be Jake.
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> "What is the source of your frustration?
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> Have you *raved again*?
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> *Where have all the glots gone*?"
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> Log into thegamebox chatserver/#caretaker.
[5:42pm] <Caretaker> Be yourself. Use your standard credentials.
[5:43pm] <Addlepated> "J" probably refers to Jake Starkey, and his
wife is Meg.
[5:43pm] <Caretaker> oddly, my handle from my old job was
registered here and my goof off password provided me access
[5:43pm] <Caretaker> so my curiousity is piqued
[5:43pm] <Addlepated> Raved again, and glots - do those mean
something to you?
[5:44pm] <Rasputin42x69> Hmm... Caretaker, willing to recieve a
.jpg file?
[5:44pm] <Caretaker> nothing
[5:44pm] <Caretaker> the other oddity..
[5:44pm] <Caretaker> i think my PC might have been hacked
[5:44pm] <Rasputin42x69> ?!
[5:44pm] <Caretaker> I found an address book on my desktop
[5:44pm] <Caretaker> most of the emails I've received were from
people in this address book
[5:45pm] <Rasputin42x69> Interesting...
[5:45pm] <RAMiles> can you give us the list of name in your book/
[5:45pm] <Caretaker> I run typical OTC protection, but my system
isn't hardened
[5:46pm] <Caretaker> Reid, there are hundreds of names, addresses
and emails in that list
[5:46pm] <Caretaker> until I get some hard facts, it's not going
anywhere
[5:47pm] <RAMiles> ok
[5:47pm] <Rasputin42x69> That's a good thing.
[5:47pm] <Addlepated> What facts can we give you?
[5:47pm] <RAMiles> Caretaker, doesnt it seem odd that we know so
much about you, where you worked, the work you have done?
[5:47pm] <Caretaker> No more than any good agent would discover
with the right sources
[5:48pm] <Addlepated>
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/files/559_1071814775.gif
[5:48pm] <Rasputin42x69> Ok, setting this up...
[5:48pm] <Caretaker> Those liberals at State talk to damn much too
[5:48pm] <RAMiles> caretaker does the name Acheron mean anything to
you
[5:49pm] <RAMiles> or cypher-systems?
[5:49pm] <Addlepated> Is this your handwriting:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/files/559_1068445097.jpg
[5:49pm] <Magesteff> Have you considered going and talking to Jake
Starkey in Catalina as well.
[5:50pm] <Caretaker> given the level of activity I'm seeing from
people in this group and the obvious relationship between the anonymous
message and the list, I'm wondering if there are others who might be able to
interpret the message
[5:50pm] <Caretaker> every single email I've received in the last
few days is on that list
[5:50pm] <Rasputin42x69> Nevermind, Addle just put it up.
[5:51pm] <Addlepated> It looks like "raved again" and "where have
all the glots gone" are scrambled or something
[5:51pm] <Magesteff> Caretaker, you created they list.
[5:51pm] <Caretaker> um, I'm pretty sure I didn't
[5:51pm] <Magesteff> not in this time reality, perhaps not, but you
did create it
[5:52pm] <Rasputin42x69> Technically, you'd be correct.
[5:52pm] <Addlepated> "The source of your frustration" - that might
refer to the fact that you're concerned about someone putting an address book
onto your computer
[5:53pm] <Caretaker> Listen, I'm not buying any stories about time
realities and similar hocus pocus
[5:53pm] <Caretaker> you may as well tell me the tooth fairy did it
[5:53pm] <Magesteff> If you want to take that as a new alias
Harker, sure
[5:54pm] <Rasputin42x69> Caretaker, even though you're familiar
with Turgenev field of research?
[5:54pm] <Rasputin42x69> er, Turgenev's
[5:54pm] <Caretaker> Turgenev's research was dead
[5:54pm] <Magesteff> then it was resurected
[5:55pm] <Caretaker> He confided in me that it was not feasible and
that by pulling him out, I probably saved his life.
[5:55pm] <Magesteff> That was before he met Jake Starkey.
[5:55pm] <RAMiles> does the name reggie mean anything to you
[5:55pm] <Magesteff> which eveidently hasn't happened in this frame
of reference
[5:55pm] <Caretaker> I think we aren't having the same conversation
here
[5:56pm] <Caretaker> Peppering me with random questions is useless
and probably frustrating for everyone
[5:56pm] <Rasputin42x69> Agreed.
[5:57pm] * Magesteff holds up hands and streps back
[5:57pm] <Caretaker> I'm here to see if you know anything about
this message
[5:57pm] <Caretaker> I will forward it to that list. If you haven't
sent me an email, make sure I have your address and I'll make sure you get a
copy
[5:58pm] <Caretaker> I'm under the assumption that your group is
directly related to the address book list I have
[5:58pm] <Magesteff> May I point out one thing before you go?
[5:58pm] <RAMiles> ramiles00@yahoo.com
[5:59pm] <Rasputin42x69> You'd be correct.
[5:59pm] <Magesteff> Caretaker you set the topic of this room in
October
[5:59pm] <Caretaker> someone with my handle and knowledge of my
password set it, yes
[6:00pm] <Caretaker> anyone with the ability to plant files on my
PC could easily obtain that information
[6:00pm] <Magesteff> Somehow I don't think it would be that easy to
hack your files
[6:01pm] <Caretaker> as I said, I don't have any special protection
on my computer. Everything is consumer grade software.
[6:01pm] <RAMiles> none of here have the ability or know how to do
that
[6:01pm] <Caretaker> I quit using the good stuff when I retired
[6:02pm] <Caretaker> I'm happy to forward that email to whomever
unless you have other ideas
[6:02pm] <Caretaker> as far as I'm concerned, you guys might be
part of a nice prank compliments of my former coworkers at the agency
[6:02pm] <Magesteff> I also think you should visit Jake Starkey in
Catalina AZ, he would appreciate the visit
[6:02pm] <Rasputin42x69> We wish this was a prank.
[6:03pm] <RAMiles> caretaker, you gave a few us here, ID badges to
NRU
[6:03pm] <Magesteff> and either take Jake to see Turgenev, or take
Turgenev to meet Jake
[6:03pm] <Magesteff> Then ask us if it is a prank
[6:03pm] <Rasputin42x69> Forwarding that Email would be good.
Paying Jake a visit would be a good idea as well.
[6:04pm] <Magesteff> Locating John Baxter aka Marcus Andover
[6:04pm] <Caretaker> no promises on that, but I'll do some checking
[6:04pm] <Caretaker> i'll send the email. Get back to me if anyone
can make sense of it
[6:05pm] <RAMiles> Caretaker do you have a physical address where
we can send you something?
[6:05pm] <Caretaker> eh?
[6:05pm] <Caretaker> not that I care to divulge
[6:05pm] <RAMiles> like you home address
[6:05pm] <RAMiles> how about a PO
[6:05pm] <Rasputin42x69> Prolly not a good idea,
[6:05pm] <Rasputin42x69> At least not yet.
[6:06pm] <RAMiles> could you set up a PO for us to send you stuff
[6:06pm] <Caretaker> i seem to have many of yours though
[6:06pm] <Magesteff> Caretaker you told us once: [19:01]
<Caretaker> Everything I've done for this country and for its people could be
washed away with the briefest attempt to change history. I know it sounds
horrible but the things I have done shouldn't be wiped away like a colored
sand painting.
[6:06pm] <Caretaker> interesting statement.
[6:06pm] <Caretaker> i don't recall making it
[6:06pm] <Caretaker> If you have something concrete, let me know.
[6:06pm] Caretaker «impotence@cyberpass.net» has Quit iRC (Connection
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[6:06pm] <Rasputin42x69> Hope that helped...
[6:07pm] <Magesteff> Interesting annonymus id:
impotence@cyberpass.net)
