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[2008-04-26 09:50:44] <AtionSong> Okay, I guess logging is on now
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[2008-04-26 09:50:53] <randomeis> yo
[2008-04-26 09:51:00] <AtionSong> yo
[2008-04-26 09:51:13] <AtionSong> good to see that chat works
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[2008-04-26 09:51:41] <Cortana> I'll come look in, but I am rarely of much help
[2008-04-26 09:51:58] <AtionSong> that's okay - you never know when inspiration will strike
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[2008-04-26 09:52:24] <AtionSong> hellow
[2008-04-26 09:52:32] <varin> hello :)
[2008-04-26 09:52:52] <randomeis> #puzzlecrunch can be our decoy the one we put in the greet in uF
[2008-04-26 09:52:59] <randomeis> then we can send people here
[2008-04-26 09:53:35] <AtionSong> smart ;-)
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[2008-04-26 09:55:01] <randomeis> varin can you update the #unfiction greet with it?
[2008-04-26 09:55:21] <varin> oh yeah... I suppose I could
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[2008-04-26 09:58:14] <AtionSong> hello
[2008-04-26 09:58:44] <enaxor> hello
[2008-04-26 09:59:10] <randomeis> someone call grumpyboy i get the feeling we'll need our resident code robot
[2008-04-26 09:59:43] <enaxor> heh
[2008-04-26 09:59:50] <enaxor> I haven't seen him in ages
[2008-04-26 10:00:16] * varin sends out a psychic call to grumpyboy
[2008-04-26 10:00:29] <varin> he can *feel* when we need him
[2008-04-26 10:00:32] <AtionSong> well, I have 10:00, so it should be any minute now
[2008-04-26 10:00:44] <AtionSong> mm! reload the front page!
[2008-04-26 10:00:47] <enaxor> like the bat signal only it's a frowny face
[2008-04-26 10:00:48] <randomeis> are either of these him? https://twitter.com/tw/search/users?q=grumpyboy
[2008-04-26 10:01:15] <randomeis> first puzzle?
[2008-04-26 10:01:16] <AtionSong> You can log in now!
[2008-04-26 10:01:33] <varin> I dont think that's him.  Isn't he in China?
[2008-04-26 10:01:45] <AtionSong> Hello, Puzzlers...
[2008-04-26 10:01:45] <AtionSong> 
[2008-04-26 10:01:45] <AtionSong> With great regret, we've again had to cancel the scheduled puzzles. It seems disaster always knows exactly when to strike and disrupt our puzzling plans. First there was Calvin's kidnapping, then his murder, and most recently his android brother's arrival. This time, our poor uncle Joseph Palasky was taken from us.
[2008-04-26 10:01:45] <AtionSong> 
[2008-04-26 10:01:45] <AtionSong> In retrospect, we probably shouldn't have joked with him so much. After all, it was clear he was going senile. (But, honestly, would you really expect him to try eating all his money?) Even if we did did convince him that leprachauns were trying to steal it all... Not even Kobayashi could eat all $42 million. Poor Uncle Blue...
[2008-04-26 10:01:45] <AtionSong> 
[2008-04-26 10:01:45] <AtionSong> Luckily, our uncle was a generous and caring man. Even in the heights of his senility, old Blue always remembered that we loved puzzles. As a final parting gift, he left us an "E-will" in the form of twelve puzzles. We've been racking our brains over this for a few days now to no avail. Puzzlers, will you help us?
[2008-04-26 10:01:45] <AtionSong> 
[2008-04-26 10:01:45] <AtionSong> Please remember, contacting us before, during, and after the competition is highly encouraged. Keep us updated on your progress, and keep checking this space for hints throughout the day!
[2008-04-26 10:01:45] <AtionSong> 
[2008-04-26 10:02:46] <AtionSong> The puzzles are here: http://www.puzzlecrunch.org/ewill/
[2008-04-26 10:03:16] <Cortana> those are all movie references in the opening paragraphs
[2008-04-26 10:03:36] <Cortana> well, some of them
[2008-04-26 10:04:03] <Cortana> left column looks like actors, no?
[2008-04-26 10:04:06] <randomeis> were any of you able to login?
[2008-04-26 10:04:07] <varin> yep
[2008-04-26 10:04:11] <Cortana> Jude Law, PS Hoffman
[2008-04-26 10:04:18] <varin> Dustin Hoffman
[2008-04-26 10:04:19] <Cortana> Adam Baldwin, Kevin Pollak
[2008-04-26 10:04:23] <varin> Viggo Mortenson
[2008-04-26 10:04:23] <AtionSong> Vigo Mortenson
[2008-04-26 10:04:29] <AtionSong> Douglas Adams
[2008-04-26 10:04:30] <Cortana> Michael Douglas?
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[2008-04-26 10:04:33] <Cortana> last names
[2008-04-26 10:04:38] <Cortana> Guy Pearce?
[2008-04-26 10:04:39] <AtionSong> oh gotcha
[2008-04-26 10:04:46] <CS-Guest524> k i made it i guess
[2008-04-26 10:04:53] =-= CS-Guest524 is now known as natas
[2008-04-26 10:05:22] <randomeis> it could be any number of baldwins
[2008-04-26 10:05:30] <AtionSong> so there are four sets of two celebrities: Jude Law/ Dustin Hoffman
[2008-04-26 10:05:30] <Cortana> true
[2008-04-26 10:05:39] <Cortana> but I am thinking that with the reference to Kobayashi?
[2008-04-26 10:05:43] <AtionSong> etc.
[2008-04-26 10:05:44] <Cortana> it's Usual Suspects
[2008-04-26 10:06:05] <AtionSong> Could there be hidden words in the intro paragraph? it did say there was a meta-puzzle
[2008-04-26 10:06:07] <Cortana> which makes it Stephen Baldwin
[2008-04-26 10:07:15] <Cortana> so, can we start to puzzle out which actor combos we're looking at?
[2008-04-26 10:07:25] <Cortana> I bet we're looking for movies on the left column
[2008-04-26 10:07:30] <varin> yeah, Kevin Pollak was in Usual Suspects
[2008-04-26 10:08:20] <varin> Cromwell and Pearce were in LA Confidential
[2008-04-26 10:08:22] <AtionSong> That makes sense Cortana
[2008-04-26 10:08:40] <AtionSong> Both with Kevin Spacey
[2008-04-26 10:08:44] <AtionSong> could that be the answer?
[2008-04-26 10:09:02] <AtionSong> ugh, nope. too easy
[2008-04-26 10:09:08] <varin> Viggo and Douglas were in A Perfect Murder
[2008-04-26 10:09:11] <natas> 3rd puzzle is "Foot" "Down" "Side"  "Top"  wshat does that mean?
[2008-04-26 10:09:17] <Cortana> Vigo Mortenson and Michael Douglas were in A Perfect Murder
[2008-04-26 10:09:26] * Cortana self-trouts
[2008-04-26 10:10:15] <Cortana> I heart huckabees has Jude Law and Dustin Hoffman
[2008-04-26 10:10:17] <natas> that's not the correct answer but that is what the word grouping point me to
[2008-04-26 10:10:18] <varin> Jude and DUstin in I Heart Hucka...
[2008-04-26 10:10:29] <AtionSong> natas, how did you get side and down?
[2008-04-26 10:10:46] <natas> side
[2008-04-26 10:10:55] <natas> is becuase the words are palindromes
[2008-04-26 10:11:00] <natas> the middle letters 
[2008-04-26 10:11:02] <natas> check it
[2008-04-26 10:11:06] <varin> ah middle
[2008-04-26 10:11:12] <natas> down
[2008-04-26 10:11:18] <natas> is the doubled letters
[2008-04-26 10:11:24] <natas> correct?
[2008-04-26 10:11:25] <AtionSong> dotcha
[2008-04-26 10:11:32] <AtionSong> *gotcha
[2008-04-26 10:11:44] <natas> but I'm stuck here
[2008-04-26 10:11:53] <AtionSong> on top also, the end letters are "AHA" :-)
[2008-04-26 10:12:01] <natas> i c
[2008-04-26 10:12:17] <natas> Tea.... OH,  Pea
[2008-04-26 10:12:23] <natas> prounced... it spells top
[2008-04-26 10:12:27] <natas> that's why i said top
[2008-04-26 10:12:53] <natas> *prounounced  grr I can't spell today
[2008-04-26 10:12:54] <AtionSong> oh, I went with the first letters going down...which I guess both work
[2008-04-26 10:13:09] <varin> oh and foot is gotten from the first and last letters
[2008-04-26 10:13:26] <natas> foot down side top
[2008-04-26 10:13:34] <natas> Still lost
[2008-04-26 10:14:53] <randomeis> you know i think the way these things work , if we win this we have to put on next years
[2008-04-26 10:15:11] <natas> count me in
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[2008-04-26 10:15:43] <RandomJaz> Howdy
[2008-04-26 10:15:47] <Fencer_> khello
[2008-04-26 10:15:49] <AtionSong> Anybody tried connect the dots on the second one?
[2008-04-26 10:15:50] <RandomJaz> Sorry I'm late
[2008-04-26 10:15:50] <randomeis> yo
[2008-04-26 10:15:51] <AtionSong> :-)
[2008-04-26 10:15:54] <Fencer_> me too
[2008-04-26 10:15:57] <Fencer_> forgot it was starting
[2008-04-26 10:15:59] <Fencer_> my first time here
[2008-04-26 10:16:12] <RandomJaz> Any luck with the puzzles as of yet?
[2008-04-26 10:16:15] <Fencer_> what about destegging the dot images?
[2008-04-26 10:17:09] <AtionSong> So just a recap of the movies: We have 1. I Heart Huckabees, 2. A Perfect Murder, 3. Usual Suspects, 4. LA Confidential
[2008-04-26 10:17:21] <Fencer_> movies?
[2008-04-26 10:17:24] <Fencer_> what movies?
[2008-04-26 10:17:27] <Cortana> left column
[2008-04-26 10:17:29] <Cortana> actor pairs
[2008-04-26 10:17:34] <Fencer_> oh of course
[2008-04-26 10:17:35] <randomeis> were they books first?
[2008-04-26 10:17:37] <Cortana> they're movies they've been in together
[2008-04-26 10:17:46] <Cortana> Usual Suspects is an original work, I believe
[2008-04-26 10:17:49] <Fencer_> no answers from that, though?
[2008-04-26 10:18:44] <enaxor> maybe they have something in common like same producer/director
[2008-04-26 10:19:03] <Fencer_> one sec
[2008-04-26 10:19:10] <Fencer_> i'm going to try to desteg that image
[2008-04-26 10:19:39] <Cortana> you do that.
[2008-04-26 10:19:44] <varin> writers and directors are different
[2008-04-26 10:19:51] <Fencer_> what?
[2008-04-26 10:19:55] <Fencer_> has it already been done?
[2008-04-26 10:20:23] <Cortana> I wonder if we're looking for a second common element between movie pairs?
[2008-04-26 10:20:36] <Cortana> (sorry, I think steganography is not a likely solution.)
[2008-04-26 10:20:46] <Fencer_> oh
[2008-04-26 10:20:48] <Fencer_> my bad
[2008-04-26 10:21:05] <Cortana> no, it's fine, you go ahead, there might be something in there
[2008-04-26 10:21:25] <Cortana> Usual Suspects and LA confidential (3&4) share Kevin Spacey
[2008-04-26 10:21:34] <AtionSong> does anybody know a place to search for movie connections? Can't find a way on IMDB
[2008-04-26 10:22:17] <Cortana> I think it's going to have to be human meta-analysis for now
[2008-04-26 10:22:18] <RandomJaz> Yeah, there is apower search on IMDB, no cast or crew in common for all four films
[2008-04-26 10:22:18] <Fencer_> hmmm
[2008-04-26 10:22:54] <AtionSong> Huckabees and Perfect murder run 107 minutes ;-)
[2008-04-26 10:23:03] <Fencer_> eight
[2008-04-26 10:23:09] <Fencer_> maybe has something?
[2008-04-26 10:23:17] <Fencer_> one plus seven is eight?
[2008-04-26 10:23:20] <Fencer_> or one/seventh
[2008-04-26 10:23:29] <Cortana> 107 + Kevin Spacey.
[2008-04-26 10:23:33] <Fencer_> i dunno, i'm guessing random shit here
[2008-04-26 10:23:56] <randomeis> thats cool Fence it is a natural part of brainstorming
[2008-04-26 10:24:06] <Fencer_> darn. camerashy gave me nothing
[2008-04-26 10:24:33] <Cortana> so, maybe 107 minutes, with kevin spacey in it?
[2008-04-26 10:24:52] <AtionSong> by the by, could there possibly be any clues in http://www.puzzlecrunch.org/_images/andy.jpg?
[2008-04-26 10:25:00] <Fencer_> one sec
[2008-04-26 10:25:35] <RandomJaz> Third column, third section are all palindromes
[2008-04-26 10:25:46] <varin> it's Se7en
[2008-04-26 10:25:51] <Cortana> hah
[2008-04-26 10:25:53] <Cortana> of course.
[2008-04-26 10:25:58] <Fencer_> se7en?
[2008-04-26 10:26:02] <varin> yep
[2008-04-26 10:26:03] <AtionSong> OMG!
[2008-04-26 10:26:04] <varin> The movie
[2008-04-26 10:26:05] <AtionSong> nice work
[2008-04-26 10:26:06] <AtionSong> !
[2008-04-26 10:26:12] <Fencer_> yay!
[2008-04-26 10:26:20] <randomeis> before i go too far along did you guys login?
[2008-04-26 10:26:26] <Fencer_> to what?
[2008-04-26 10:26:28] <randomeis> or was that pop up a fluke?
[2008-04-26 10:26:39] <randomeis> a login popped up when things changed
[2008-04-26 10:26:40] <Cortana> I didn't get a login
[2008-04-26 10:26:41] <varin> I refreshed and the login went away
[2008-04-26 10:26:43] <Fencer_> dude, check this out
[2008-04-26 10:26:50] <randomeis> ok just making sure i didn't miss a step
[2008-04-26 10:27:20] <varin> so how do they know who solves first?  I'm guessing there's a step at the end to take care of that?
[2008-04-26 10:27:29] <Cortana> yeah, I guess so
[2008-04-26 10:27:29] <randomeis> that's a clue board
[2008-04-26 10:27:30] <enaxor> I didn't login, but I'm only here for fun
[2008-04-26 10:27:40] <RandomJaz> third column first set, all start and end with the same letters
[2008-04-26 10:27:45] <Fencer_> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2cojzpe&s=3
[2008-04-26 10:27:57] <Fencer_> that's what you get when you input se7en
[2008-04-26 10:28:17] <AtionSong> do you guys see the image piece?
[2008-04-26 10:28:18] <Cortana> we have several directional clues for right-side
[2008-04-26 10:28:23] <Cortana> (I do)
[2008-04-26 10:28:27] <AtionSong> I'm e-mailing them to let them know our progress
[2008-04-26 10:28:28] <Fencer_> me too
[2008-04-26 10:28:54] <Cortana> what are the four blocks on the left?
[2008-04-26 10:28:57] <Cortana> TOP is on bottom,
[2008-04-26 10:29:00] <Cortana> Side is #3
[2008-04-26 10:29:02] <Cortana> Foot is #1
[2008-04-26 10:29:04] <natas> WE FIGURED THAT PART CORTANA
[2008-04-26 10:29:06] <Cortana> what's #2?
[2008-04-26 10:29:07] <natas> oops
[2008-04-26 10:29:09] <natas> sorry for the caps
[2008-04-26 10:29:10] <Cortana> caps, my friend.
[2008-04-26 10:29:11] <Fencer_> jeez natas
[2008-04-26 10:29:13] <Fencer_> lol
[2008-04-26 10:29:17] <varin> two is down
[2008-04-26 10:29:20] <natas> I wasn't yelling
[2008-04-26 10:29:22] <Fencer_> wait, what
[2008-04-26 10:29:24] <Cortana> foot down side top?
[2008-04-26 10:29:27] <natas> my caps button got stuck for a second
[2008-04-26 10:29:29] <varin> yeah
[2008-04-26 10:29:29] <Fencer_> where are you talking about?
[2008-04-26 10:29:30] <natas> sorry
[2008-04-26 10:29:32] <natas> lol
[2008-04-26 10:29:34] <RandomJaz> i got foot down side top too
[2008-04-26 10:29:36] <Cortana> right side puzzle, Fencer
[2008-04-26 10:29:36] <Fencer_>  i see
[2008-04-26 10:29:38] <natas> down side top foot
[2008-04-26 10:29:57] <enaxor> don't know much about this stuff, but the dots is a png image, doesn't that mean you can do layers?
[2008-04-26 10:30:16] <Cortana> I think png files are one-layer
[2008-04-26 10:30:19] <AtionSong> In the Image, I'm seeing:
[2008-04-26 10:30:23] <Fencer_> i got foot and top
[2008-04-26 10:30:26] <Fencer_> but not side and down
[2008-04-26 10:30:46] <RandomJaz> down is from every double letter set in the second set
[2008-04-26 10:30:49] <AtionSong> at? wh...he Madam neve[r]...e guilty one was a...h the work of Blet...rticularly with a Br...
[2008-04-26 10:30:55] <Fencer_> of course
[2008-04-26 10:31:06] <Cortana> down - double letters, side - palidrome senter
[2008-04-26 10:31:07] <RandomJaz> side is the middle letter of each of the palindromes
[2008-04-26 10:31:08] <Cortana> er
[2008-04-26 10:31:08] <Cortana> center
[2008-04-26 10:31:36] <Cortana> particularly is the ...rticularly
[2008-04-26 10:32:02] <Fencer_> hey!
[2008-04-26 10:32:05] <Fencer_> the piece looks like a
[2008-04-26 10:32:07] <Fencer_> CLUE board!
[2008-04-26 10:32:12] <Fencer_> like the game
[2008-04-26 10:32:31] <AtionSong> hey, you're right!
[2008-04-26 10:32:37] <AtionSong> image name: cwyno.png
[2008-04-26 10:32:42] <Fencer_> it's the living room with colonel mustards starting space on it
[2008-04-26 10:32:54] <Fencer_> one sec
[2008-04-26 10:32:55] <randomeis> not quotes from the movie
[2008-04-26 10:33:07] <Fencer_> quotes from Clue
[2008-04-26 10:33:08] <Fencer_> ?
[2008-04-26 10:33:22] <AtionSong> cwyno + ROT-16 = smode... (?)
[2008-04-26 10:33:26] <RandomJaz> foot down side top, is there a word that can go before or after all of those, I have been trying under and anything else I could think of
[2008-04-26 10:33:45] <Fencer_> oh yeah
[2008-04-26 10:33:50] <Fencer_> those prefix puzzles
[2008-04-26 10:33:59] <varin>  foothill downhill
[2008-04-26 10:34:04] <varin> hilltop
[2008-04-26 10:34:06] <varin> hillside
[2008-04-26 10:34:11] <Fencer_> of course!
[2008-04-26 10:34:13] <Fencer_> hill
[2008-04-26 10:34:14] <RandomJaz> hill it is
[2008-04-26 10:34:15] <Fencer_> smodehill?
[2008-04-26 10:34:21] <randomeis> woot
[2008-04-26 10:34:22] <Cortana> http://www.puzzlecrunch.org/ewill/j_pz3.html
[2008-04-26 10:34:24] <randomeis> 2 down
[2008-04-26 10:34:30] <Fencer_> got it!
[2008-04-26 10:34:32] <varin> woot
[2008-04-26 10:34:36] <enaxor> nice varin
[2008-04-26 10:34:43] <AtionSong> W00t!
[2008-04-26 10:34:52] <Fencer_> ...of them...ough it...osive...obeyed ev....physics...
[2008-04-26 10:34:55] <Fencer_> the new piece
[2008-04-26 10:35:04] <Fencer_> which also is like a clue board
[2008-04-26 10:35:10] <varin> oh, down at the bottom!
[2008-04-26 10:35:16] <Cortana> first paragraph of the new will is American Gothic
[2008-04-26 10:35:17] <AtionSong> tojud.png
[2008-04-26 10:35:18] <Fencer_> yup!
[2008-04-26 10:35:25] <Fencer_> wait
[2008-04-26 10:35:30] <Fencer_> trying to desteg the files
[2008-04-26 10:35:43] <Fencer_> but camerashy downloaded and now i can't find it
[2008-04-26 10:35:54] <randomeis> i think the image names are part of the meta puzzle
[2008-04-26 10:36:14] <Cortana> second is the Fall of the House of Usher
[2008-04-26 10:36:41] <Cortana> third is American Gothic again
[2008-04-26 10:36:47] <AtionSong> there's supposed to be a background image at _images/bg.png, but I can't find it
[2008-04-26 10:37:06] <Cortana> more poe in 4
[2008-04-26 10:37:13] <Fencer_> all poe novels?
[2008-04-26 10:37:15] <Fencer_> poems, i mean
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[2008-04-26 10:37:34] <varin> Last one is Usher too
[2008-04-26 10:37:37] <varin> hey Rowan!
[2008-04-26 10:37:39] <Rowan> hihi
[2008-04-26 10:37:50] <Cortana> so, it's Usher/American Gothic...
[2008-04-26 10:37:53] <Fencer_> hi rowan!
[2008-04-26 10:37:58] <Fencer_> usher and american gothic
[2008-04-26 10:38:02] <Fencer_> what do they have in common?
[2008-04-26 10:39:11] <varin> so are they all Usher except for 1 and 3?
[2008-04-26 10:39:33] <Cortana> oh wait
[2008-04-26 10:39:34] <Cortana> no
[2008-04-26 10:39:36] <Cortana> they're all Usher
[2008-04-26 10:39:52] <varin> Rowan: Column one is 
[2008-04-26 10:39:56] <RandomJaz> yeah, been trying date of first publish and such but not hit it yet
[2008-04-26 10:39:56] <Fencer_> se7en
[2008-04-26 10:39:59] <Fencer_> third is hill
[2008-04-26 10:40:00] <varin> hehe
[2008-04-26 10:40:01] <Cortana> Fall of the House of Usher was IN the anthology called American Gothic
[2008-04-26 10:40:02] <Fencer_> second....
[2008-04-26 10:40:04] <Fencer_> well....
[2008-04-26 10:40:17] <AtionSong> I've gotten responses from the Big Enchilada Team - they wish us good luck and tell us to keep up the good work!
[2008-04-26 10:40:23] <Fencer_> yay!
[2008-04-26 10:40:25] <Fencer_> thanks Ation!
[2008-04-26 10:40:43] <Fencer_> i've been running all the sites through CameraShy, and like Cortana predicted, nothing came up.
[2008-04-26 10:40:50] <Fencer_> so no stegonagraphy yet.
[2008-04-26 10:41:26] <randomeis> whats our word count on the lines
[2008-04-26 10:41:47] <Fencer_> what do you mean?
[2008-04-26 10:42:40] <Fencer_> oh nvm i see
[2008-04-26 10:43:18] <Cortana> 63 / 75 / 70 / 33 / 55 / 67 / 68 / 23
[2008-04-26 10:43:30] <Fencer_> 458 in the entire thing
[2008-04-26 10:43:34] <Cortana> 453
[2008-04-26 10:43:46] <Fencer_> huh
[2008-04-26 10:43:52] <Fencer_> microsoft wored gives me 458
[2008-04-26 10:44:01] <Fencer_> close enoguh though
[2008-04-26 10:44:05] <AtionSong> I tried connecting the dots on the image - it doesn't look like that's going to do anything
[2008-04-26 10:44:47] <Fencer_> does it mean anything that they forgot to add a space in the words 'his malady'?
[2008-04-26 10:44:55] <Fencer_> right now it looks like 'hismalady'
[2008-04-26 10:45:53] <enaxor> whats with the "-" in the paragraphs
[2008-04-26 10:46:18] <Fencer_> what do you mean?
[2008-04-26 10:46:52] <Rowan> there are a lot of dashes
[2008-04-26 10:46:57] <Fencer_> huh
[2008-04-26 10:47:06] <Fencer_> they dont show up in my screen
[2008-04-26 10:47:23] <Rowan> 4 paragrah: A letter, however, had lately reached me in a distant part of the country--a letter from him--which, in its wildly importunate nature, had admitted of no other than a personal reply.
[2008-04-26 10:47:39] <Fencer_> looks normal to me
[2008-04-26 10:47:44] <Fencer_> :P
[2008-04-26 10:48:11] <Cortana> the original is full of them
[2008-04-26 10:48:15] <Rowan> okay
[2008-04-26 10:48:15] <Cortana> http://www.bartleby.com/195/10.html
[2008-04-26 10:48:38] <natas> joseph "blue" palasky has a myspace page, but alas, it's the one from the movie "Old School"  as i figured
[2008-04-26 10:48:52] <RandomJaz> the sections are from paragraphs 5, 2, 30, 2, 32, 35, 44 and 30 respectively
[2008-04-26 10:48:53] <Fencer_> yeah, Poe does that a lot I think
[2008-04-26 10:49:02] <Fencer_> fibonnaci?
[2008-04-26 10:49:10] <AtionSong> I'm looking at the image with the blue squares, and I checked the red and green values on the squares in the first row:
[2008-04-26 10:49:15] <AtionSong> 3-5 0-6 5-6 1-4 4-2 3-3 6-0
[2008-04-26 10:49:19] <AtionSong> mean anything to anyone?
[2008-04-26 10:49:24] <Rowan> why do they have a black background image yet also have the background set to black?
[2008-04-26 10:49:59] <Rowan> you guys got the numbers out the background?
[2008-04-26 10:50:02] <Fencer_> -2 -6 -1 -3 2 0 6 when you subtract them all together Ation
[2008-04-26 10:50:09] <varin> Rowan: no
[2008-04-26 10:50:12] <Rowan> hang on
[2008-04-26 10:50:30] <Rowan> lsClab4tEk
[2008-04-26 10:50:35] <Fencer_>  -4
[2008-04-26 10:50:37] <Fencer_> what rowan?
[2008-04-26 10:50:50] <Fencer_> ket4blacksi
[2008-04-26 10:51:06] <AtionSong> what are those strings?
[2008-04-26 10:51:13] <Rowan> on the j_pz3.html page, there is a background png
[2008-04-26 10:51:16] <AtionSong> right
[2008-04-26 10:51:22] <AtionSong> I couldn't get to it
[2008-04-26 10:51:33] <Rowan> http://www.puzzlecrunch.org/ewill/_images/bg.png
[2008-04-26 10:51:36] <Fencer_> there is?
[2008-04-26 10:51:40] <Rowan> yes
[2008-04-26 10:51:50] <Fencer_> not stegged, that's for sure
[2008-04-26 10:51:53] <AtionSong> ah - that's the issue, I was going to http://www.puzzlecrunch.org/_images/bg.png
[2008-04-26 10:51:56] <Rowan> open that up in like Paint, change the color of most of it
[2008-04-26 10:51:59] <Rowan> and you get a string of letters
[2008-04-26 10:52:10] <AtionSong> CLUE IN IT!
[2008-04-26 10:52:13] <Fencer_> which are IsClab4teK
[2008-04-26 10:52:14] <Rowan> l s C L a b 4 t E k
[2008-04-26 10:52:19] <Fencer_> Backwards--
[2008-04-26 10:52:38] <randomeis> boo first level changing puzzle of the day and i miss it
[2008-04-26 10:52:41] <randomeis> those are my faves
[2008-04-26 10:52:44] <Fencer_> Is C Lab For Tech?
[2008-04-26 10:52:49] <Fencer_> maybe
[2008-04-26 10:53:08] <Cortana> has to relate to our content, Fencer
[2008-04-26 10:53:08] <randomeis> we've had 4 images so far right?
[2008-04-26 10:53:13] <AtionSong> not base 64, I can tell you that
[2008-04-26 10:53:17] <AtionSong> ÖÀ‹i¾-
[2008-04-26 10:53:18] <randomeis> or the meta puzzle
[2008-04-26 10:53:22] <Fencer_> wtf?
[2008-04-26 10:53:24] <Fencer_> oh
[2008-04-26 10:53:35] <Fencer_> meh w/e
[2008-04-26 10:55:21] <Fencer_> so IsCLab4tEk must relate to the Usher/American Gothic thing somehow....
[2008-04-26 10:55:37] <varin> Is the first character a 1 or l?
[2008-04-26 10:55:43] <AtionSong> I would guess a key, but the 4 makes that a little harder...
[2008-04-26 10:55:50] <Fencer_> or an |
[2008-04-26 10:55:53] <Fencer_> or an l
[2008-04-26 10:55:54] <Rowan> might be a 1
[2008-04-26 10:55:59] <AtionSong> 1
[2008-04-26 10:56:03] <Fencer_> either 1 or l or I or |
[2008-04-26 10:56:07] <AtionSong> I contrasted it in Photoshop, and it's pretty obvious
[2008-04-26 10:56:12] <randomeis> it is 1
[2008-04-26 10:56:13] <Fencer_> 1 or i or L or |
[2008-04-26 10:56:17] <Fencer_> okay thanks
[2008-04-26 10:56:24] <Fencer_> sorry just ignore my babbling :P
[2008-04-26 10:56:35] <randomeis> "1sCLab4tEk"
[2008-04-26 10:56:36] <Rowan> sorry - i just woke up and my eyes arent that good yet
[2008-04-26 10:56:54] <Fencer_> no worries ^_^
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[2008-04-26 10:57:14] <Cortana> Ones See Lab For 't Ek ?
[2008-04-26 10:57:20] <Fencer_> hey-- an anagram of 1sCLab4tEk gives us
[2008-04-26 10:57:23] <Fencer_> Blackest
[2008-04-26 10:57:35] <Cortana> blackest 14?
[2008-04-26 10:57:38] <Cortana> 14 blackest?
[2008-04-26 10:57:47] <varin> hrm
[2008-04-26 10:57:59] <natas> it's not an I it's a 1
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[2008-04-26 10:58:11] <Fencer_> none of those work
[2008-04-26 10:58:17] <natas> oops
[2008-04-26 10:58:28] <natas> i gotta remember to scroll
[2008-04-26 10:58:31] <natas> lol
[2008-04-26 10:58:40] <Fencer_> i know-- but if you remove the numbers from it and rearrange it it gives you blackest
[2008-04-26 10:58:45] <Rowan> or bLaCkEst
[2008-04-26 10:58:51] <Fencer_> but neither 14 blackes or Blackest 14 work
[2008-04-26 10:59:00] <Fencer_> is this thing case sensitive?
[2008-04-26 10:59:04] <Rowan> could be 41 as well
[2008-04-26 10:59:04] <Cortana> the word blackest isn't in the paragraph 14
[2008-04-26 10:59:09] <randomeis> how long has there been a second clue piece under the 2nd puzzle?
[2008-04-26 10:59:16] <randomeis> am i that blind?
[2008-04-26 10:59:27] <natas> huh?
[2008-04-26 10:59:28] <Fencer_> that came when we solved the third one
[2008-04-26 10:59:36] <Fencer_> or the first part of the third one
[2008-04-26 11:00:12] <Fencer_> (btw, the anagram could also be Black Set-- that's the only other one that made sense to me
[2008-04-26 11:00:13] <randomeis> i guess i had my screen scrolled up too much
[2008-04-26 11:00:21] <Rowan> fencer - dunno if its case sensitive, but i'm just trynig to cover all bases
[2008-04-26 11:00:36] <Fencer_> yeah
[2008-04-26 11:00:44] <Fencer_> i tried all of them and none worked 
[2008-04-26 11:00:46] <Fencer_> sorry
[2008-04-26 11:00:59] <AtionSong> there are now hints:
[2008-04-26 11:01:04] <Fencer_> we might be on the right track though....
[2008-04-26 11:01:09] <Fencer_> oh good!
[2008-04-26 11:01:11] <AtionSong>     *  9:00am - Left Puzzle 1 : What do they have in common?
[2008-04-26 11:01:11] <AtionSong>     * 9:00am - Center Puzzle 1 : I was born in July.
[2008-04-26 11:01:11] <AtionSong>     * 9:00am - Right Puzzle 1 : What do they have in common?
[2008-04-26 11:01:11] <AtionSong> 
[2008-04-26 11:01:28] <Cortana> Star signs?
[2008-04-26 11:01:36] <AtionSong> so does center have to do with fireworks?
[2008-04-26 11:01:38] <Fencer_> July star signs!
[2008-04-26 11:02:52] <randomeis> crap will we need to do something like this "http://www.astrology-reading.com.au/Queen_Elizabeth.jpg"
[2008-04-26 11:02:58] <Fencer_> neither Cancer nor Leo worked btw
[2008-04-26 11:03:18] <AtionSong> randomeis - maybe the reverse of that?
[2008-04-26 11:03:24] <Fencer_> what IS that?
[2008-04-26 11:03:46] <varin> astrology chart
[2008-04-26 11:03:59] <Fencer_> yeah, but what's with all the angles
[2008-04-26 11:04:12] <Cortana> star chart.
[2008-04-26 11:04:26] <Fencer_> i'm gonna let you guys handle that one....
[2008-04-26 11:04:31] <AtionSong> oh, we're trying to figure out whose star chart it is
[2008-04-26 11:04:47] <Cortana> right
[2008-04-26 11:04:56] <Fencer_> oh
[2008-04-26 11:05:05] <Fencer_> whose star chart it is on the PuzzleCrunch page?
[2008-04-26 11:05:12] <Cortana> http://www.puzzlecrunch.org/ewill/_images/dots.png
[2008-04-26 11:05:59] <enaxor> do you see those hints on the puzzlecrunch page?
[2008-04-26 11:06:03] <Fencer_> no
[2008-04-26 11:06:05] <Fencer_> sorry
[2008-04-26 11:06:20] <AtionSong> F5
[2008-04-26 11:06:21] <Fencer_> what hints do you mean?
[2008-04-26 11:06:51] <AtionSong> go to puzzlecrunch.org homepage
[2008-04-26 11:06:58] <enaxor> [09:01] <AtionSong>     *  9:00am - Left Puzzle 1 : What do they have in common?
[2008-04-26 11:07:24] <Fencer_> oh okay duh :P
[2008-04-26 11:07:27] <AtionSong> lol, now they're all corrected with 11:00
[2008-04-26 11:07:33] <enaxor> ty
[2008-04-26 11:07:36] <Fencer_> there are thousands of people who are born in july though!
[2008-04-26 11:08:20] <randomeis> http://astrologer.coolmaxhot.com/astrology-ephemeris.htm
[2008-04-26 11:08:29] <randomeis> maybe we can use that?
[2008-04-26 11:09:39] <varin> FYI: All of the blues in the blue square are different 
[2008-04-26 11:09:44] <AtionSong> yeeah
[2008-04-26 11:10:36] <randomeis> hmm maybe we need RGB or CYMK numbers from them
[2008-04-26 11:10:53] <varin> I have the RGB's written down
[2008-04-26 11:11:05] <Fencer_> what r they?
[2008-04-26 11:11:13] <Rowan> i keep wanting to stare at the dots like a magic eye
[2008-04-26 11:11:17] <Fencer_> lolz
[2008-04-26 11:11:20] <Fencer_> i could never do those
[2008-04-26 11:11:38] <Fencer_> so we've pretty much given up on the third puzzle then?
[2008-04-26 11:11:43] <varin> do you really want me to type them all out in here?
[2008-04-26 11:11:45] <Fencer_> or dd i miss something?
[2008-04-26 11:11:46] <Fencer_> no.
[2008-04-26 11:11:46] <AtionSong> could there be any significance to Joseph "Blue" Palasky? i.e. blue puzzle?
[2008-04-26 11:11:50] <Fencer_> i'll go get them
[2008-04-26 11:12:08] <varin> Joseph Blue Palaksy was in Old School
[2008-04-26 11:13:18] <Cortana> we're moving around, Fencer, it's not that we've given up, but back-burnered it
[2008-04-26 11:13:29] <Fencer_> kthx
[2008-04-26 11:13:45] <Cortana> this is a common event in the face of multiple puzzles
[2008-04-26 11:13:50] <Cortana> take advantage of new information, etc.
[2008-04-26 11:16:28] <Fencer_> grr
[2008-04-26 11:16:36] <Fencer_> can't figure out how to get the values of the blue puzzle
[2008-04-26 11:16:55] <varin> download the colorpicker Addon for Firefox
[2008-04-26 11:17:13] <Fencer_> i've....got internet explorer T_T sorry
[2008-04-26 11:17:17] <Fencer_> it's okay, don't worry about it
[2008-04-26 11:17:21] <Fencer_> i'll find one myself ^_^
[2008-04-26 11:17:25] <varin> well, there's your problem right there ;P
[2008-04-26 11:17:26] <Cortana> get firefox? :D
[2008-04-26 11:20:48] <varin> ok, there's a pattern to the blues
[2008-04-26 11:21:18] <AtionSong> really? neat
[2008-04-26 11:21:51] <varin> gonna put this in a google doc
[2008-04-26 11:22:01] <Fencer_> thanks man
[2008-04-26 11:22:09] <AtionSong> btw, I superimposed the clue pieces on the actual clue board, if it means anything:
[2008-04-26 11:22:10] <AtionSong> http://iwiime.googlepages.com/clueboard.jpg
[2008-04-26 11:22:12] <Cortana> which blues, the dots, or the squares?
[2008-04-26 11:22:25] <Cortana> nicely, done, Ation!
[2008-04-26 11:22:26] <varin> the squares, sorry
[2008-04-26 11:22:41] <varin> oh nice ationSong!
[2008-04-26 11:22:51] <Fencer_> sweet, ation!
[2008-04-26 11:22:55] <randomeis> very cool
[2008-04-26 11:23:01] <enaxor> nice
[2008-04-26 11:23:25] <AtionSong> thanks! interestingly, the board is for Cluedo, not Clue - meaning it's a non-American edition
[2008-04-26 11:23:30] <AtionSong> but maybe that's just me
[2008-04-26 11:23:40] <Fencer_> Cluedo?
[2008-04-26 11:23:49] <Fencer_> that's a funny name :P
[2008-04-26 11:23:54] <AtionSong> it's the non-american name for Clue
[2008-04-26 11:24:07] <Fencer_> yeah, I got that :P
[2008-04-26 11:24:08] <Fencer_> doesn't really make sense though because isn't this done by MIT?
[2008-04-26 11:24:29] <Fencer_> ooooh i have firefox now
[2008-04-26 11:24:31] <Fencer_> w00t for tabs!
[2008-04-26 11:24:35] <Rowan> university of illinois at urbana-champagne
[2008-04-26 11:24:49] <Fencer_> still in america though :P
[2008-04-26 11:27:40] <AtionSong> can somebody remind me of the texts in the right column puzzle?
[2008-04-26 11:27:52] <randomeis> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pNki1ZdyK3G9Jl304AohZNA&hl=en
[2008-04-26 11:27:56] <Cortana> it's all the Fall of the House of Usher, Ation
[2008-04-26 11:28:05] <randomeis> going through and getting all the color info fro the blue box
[2008-04-26 11:28:24] <Fencer_> thank you
[2008-04-26 11:28:27] <varin> I've got all the RGB codes, randomeis
[2008-04-26 11:28:40] <varin> will have google doc in just a few
[2008-04-26 11:29:05] <Fencer_> still new to this-- what does H and S mean?
[2008-04-26 11:29:05] <randomeis> ah ok
[2008-04-26 11:29:15] <Fencer_> wait nvm
[2008-04-26 11:29:21] <Fencer_> hue and saturation right?
[2008-04-26 11:29:32] <randomeis> i think so
[2008-04-26 11:30:17] <Fencer_> what do those numbers at the end mean-- under the column '#'?
[2008-04-26 11:30:22] <Cortana> hue, saturation, brightness
[2008-04-26 11:30:35] <Cortana> they're binary values, 1-256
[2008-04-26 11:30:38] <Fencer_> sorry for all the questions :P
[2008-04-26 11:30:41] <Fencer_> thanks
[2008-04-26 11:30:42] <Cortana> (well, decimal expressions of binary)
[2008-04-26 11:30:55] <Fencer_> yeah, i was gonna say
[2008-04-26 11:31:00] <Fencer_> they actually look like hexcodes to me
[2008-04-26 11:31:18] <natas> supposing the letters in the background DOES mean "blackest",  how do we decide which is blackest?
[2008-04-26 11:31:30] <Fencer_> uh
[2008-04-26 11:31:30] <AtionSong> the blackest 14 words?
[2008-04-26 11:32:07] <Rowan> poe wrote about a black cat
[2008-04-26 11:32:39] <Fencer_> did he write the Black Cat & the Fall of the HOuse of Usher in the same year?
[2008-04-26 11:33:10] <natas> I anagramed them and the only reasonable answers was blackest or black set 
[2008-04-26 11:33:11] <Rowan> 1843 / 1839
[2008-04-26 11:33:33] <Fencer_> trout, natas :P even though we're not in UF right now
[2008-04-26 11:33:40] <Fencer_> already got that
[2008-04-26 11:34:15] <natas> whatever fencer. try to help out
[2008-04-26 11:34:24] <Cortana> lol
[2008-04-26 11:34:26] <Cortana> pwned.
[2008-04-26 11:34:27] <Fencer_> sorry :P
[2008-04-26 11:34:30] <Fencer_> i am sorry.
[2008-04-26 11:35:06] <Rowan> wonder if it has to do with what bits were taken from the house of usher
[2008-04-26 11:35:20] <Fencer_> i am trying to help out. but since i can't seem to do anything here, i don't want to be a burden on you guys.
[2008-04-26 11:35:24] <natas> I'm not familiar at all about Poe or usher....
[2008-04-26 11:35:40] <varin> here are the RGB's for the blue square - http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfg4vhcf_8frx8wffz
[2008-04-26 11:35:42] <natas> I'll try to work on the other ones right now sorry
[2008-04-26 11:35:45] <varin> Feel free to figure out the CYMK
[2008-04-26 11:35:47] <Rowan> i have a copy of most of his work
[2008-04-26 11:35:55] <Fencer_> thanks varin
[2008-04-26 11:36:13] <varin> CMYK rather
[2008-04-26 11:36:29] <AtionSong> great job Varin!
[2008-04-26 11:37:28] <varin> The R's and G's are 0-6
[2008-04-26 11:38:05] <varin> The B's are one of 17 different numbers :/
[2008-04-26 11:39:24] <AtionSong> hmm...the number patterns don't look familiar to me...any thoughts?
[2008-04-26 11:39:48] <varin> Does this mean anything to anyone? 32 97 99 100 101 103 104 105 108 109 110 111 114 115 116 118 119
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[2008-04-26 11:41:20] <AtionSong> nope. not hex...
[2008-04-26 11:41:26] <RandomJaz> what have I missed, have we had any solves since the hill solve?
[2008-04-26 11:41:31] <varin> nope
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[2008-04-26 11:42:01] <cather|away> how long will this run?
[2008-04-26 11:42:02] <Cortana> off to shower and then get lunch
[2008-04-26 11:42:03] <Cortana> bbiab
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[2008-04-26 11:42:09] <natas> just today
[2008-04-26 11:42:12] <natas> i believe
[2008-04-26 11:42:14] <cather|away> right, but how late?
[2008-04-26 11:42:20] <natas> not sure
[2008-04-26 11:42:23] <varin> I'm guessing until someone wins
[2008-04-26 11:42:24] <cather|away> i'll be gone for the next 6-8 hours
[2008-04-26 11:42:30] <cather|away> oh well, good luck!
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[2008-04-26 11:43:17] <AtionSong> anyone have any luck with the horoscope map?
[2008-04-26 11:43:19] <natas> I've tried fireworks, firecrackers, fourth of july, independence, america, united states,  I'm gonna keep randomly guessing as usual.
[2008-04-26 11:43:42] <natas> what horoscope map?
[2008-04-26 11:43:52] <AtionSong> the one you're trying to randomly guess for :-)
[2008-04-26 11:44:01] <natas> oh
[2008-04-26 11:44:05] <AtionSong> it's the horoscope map for a specific day in July
[2008-04-26 11:44:11] <AtionSong> we need to figure out who was born on that day
[2008-04-26 11:44:12] <natas> oh
[2008-04-26 11:44:19] <RandomJaz> what day is it though?
[2008-04-26 11:44:30] <natas> born on the fourth of july
[2008-04-26 11:45:09] <AtionSong> we don't know that it's july 4th, do we?
[2008-04-26 11:45:26] <varin> We don't know that it's a horoscope map for sure, do we?
[2008-04-26 11:45:34] <randomeis> nope just a guess
[2008-04-26 11:45:42] <varin> ah ok, thought I missed a hint
[2008-04-26 11:45:58] <natas> we know jack
[2008-04-26 11:46:24] <AtionSong> ah well, I'm going to shower. be back soon.
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[2008-04-26 11:50:33] <Rowan> well, the usher passages are all over the place
[2008-04-26 11:50:36] <Rowan> and one even repeats
[2008-04-26 11:51:36] <varin> repeats in the book?
[2008-04-26 11:51:43] <RandomJaz> which is the repeated section?
[2008-04-26 11:51:44] <Rowan> no
[2008-04-26 11:51:52] <Rowan> He roamed from chamber to chamber with hurried, unequal, and objectless step. The pallor of his countenance had assumed--if possible--a more ghastly hue
[2008-04-26 11:52:05] <Rowan> its in the 3rd paragraph
[2008-04-26 11:52:15] <Rowan> and then by itsself at the end (on thep uzzle page)
[2008-04-26 11:53:02] <RandomJaz> hmm, may be something in it?
[2008-04-26 11:53:08] <RandomJaz> probably not though
[2008-04-26 11:53:39] <Rowan> and snippet 2 comes right after snippet 4 in the actual text
[2008-04-26 11:57:14] <randomeis> wikipedia says that real books are mentioned in the fall of the house of usher
[2008-04-26 11:57:25] <randomeis> are they anywhere near our snippets?
[2008-04-26 11:58:46] <Rowan> not near the first couple
[2008-04-26 11:59:11] <Rowan> mostly the books mentioned are in one big block
[2008-04-26 11:59:18] <randomeis> kk
[2008-04-26 11:59:36] <Rowan> in paragraph 27. the closets snippet comes from paragraph 33
[2008-04-26 11:59:49] [INFO] You are no longer marked as away.
[2008-04-26 11:59:54] <varin> totally random: a raven is sometimes called the blackest bird
[2008-04-26 12:00:02] <Rowan> the snippets are from Paragraphs 5, 2, 31, 2, 33, 36, 47, 31
[2008-04-26 12:00:32] <AtionSong> New hints!
[2008-04-26 12:00:35] <AtionSong> # 12:00pm - Center 1 : Uncle Palasky was such a star gazer
[2008-04-26 12:00:35] <AtionSong> # 12:00pm - Left 2 : Consider breaking it down into a few primary components
[2008-04-26 12:00:35] <AtionSong> # 12:00pm - Center 2 : Ah, when video games only let you move in four directions...
[2008-04-26 12:00:35] <AtionSong> # 12:00pm - Right 2 : A military man would understand the long and short of it
[2008-04-26 12:00:35] <AtionSong> 
[2008-04-26 12:00:57] <Rowan> morse code
[2008-04-26 12:01:06] <AtionSong> ah!
[2008-04-26 12:01:12] <AtionSong> that's what the double dashes are for!
[2008-04-26 12:01:32] <Rowan> i had thought of that before, but then cort said they were in the original and i dropped it
[2008-04-26 12:01:35] <randomeis> too bad we didn't have Bernard here ^_^
[2008-04-26 12:01:37] <enaxor> but someone said they were in the actual text
[2008-04-26 12:01:51] <enaxor> ditto what rowan said
[2008-04-26 12:01:56] <Rowan> they could have picked those passages out for that specific reason
[2008-04-26 12:02:04] <Rowan> but long and short + military = morse in my mind
[2008-04-26 12:02:12] <enaxor> and the rreason for the repeat
[2008-04-26 12:02:19] <AtionSong> five periods in the first paragraph, no dashes
[2008-04-26 12:03:11] <Rowan> its gonna be numbers
[2008-04-26 12:03:17] <Rowan> its all 5 symbols
[2008-04-26 12:03:42] <AtionSong> .... = 5
[2008-04-26 12:03:55] <AtionSong> second p I got ...--
[2008-04-26 12:04:04] <randomeis>                     .           .       .               .         . 
[2008-04-26 12:04:05] <randomeis>  .     .                                              .             --          
[2008-04-26 12:04:05] <randomeis>                       .     .       .            .              -           
[2008-04-26 12:04:05] <randomeis>              --   --              . 
[2008-04-26 12:04:05] <randomeis>        .                  .        --             -         
[2008-04-26 12:04:05] <randomeis>            -                 .              .       .                 . 
[2008-04-26 12:04:05] <randomeis>          -                   -              .                .         .  
[2008-04-26 12:04:08] <randomeis>            .       -- --    
[2008-04-26 12:04:13] <Rowan> 53492671
[2008-04-26 12:04:29] <Rowan> doesnt work tho as an answer
[2008-04-26 12:05:04] <enaxor> maybe how we order the graphic
[2008-04-26 12:05:12] <Rowan> to letter: ecdibga or ecdizga
[2008-04-26 12:05:39] <AtionSong> how are we figuring out spacing of letters
[2008-04-26 12:07:00] <randomeis> ........--....-----...----....--....---- 
[2008-04-26 12:07:07] <randomeis> sorry forgot to take out spaces
[2008-04-26 12:08:25] <AtionSong> tried to separate using 1 and 4
[2008-04-26 12:08:31] <AtionSong> . .... . ..-- . ...- - ---. . .--- - .... - -... . ----
[2008-04-26 12:08:36] <AtionSong> "EHEEVTEJTHTBE"
[2008-04-26 12:09:06] <Rowan> i dunno - i just think its too much of a coincidence that its 5 symbols per paragraph
[2008-04-26 12:09:41] <Rowan> i mean, they left dashes and periods out on purpose
[2008-04-26 12:09:58] <AtionSong> so 53492671?
[2008-04-26 12:10:01] <AtionSong> what does that mean?
[2008-04-26 12:10:15] <Rowan> i dunno
[2008-04-26 12:10:50] <Rowan> but if you wanna try to parse the raw morse into letters - have fun :)
[2008-04-26 12:11:17] <AtionSong> hexidecimal 53492671 = SI&q  ... (?)
[2008-04-26 12:11:27] <varin> hehe, I did something wrong.  I got 08492671
[2008-04-26 12:12:24] <natas> i got the same as ation
[2008-04-26 12:12:31] <Rowan> did you switch -s for .s varin?
[2008-04-26 12:12:32] <natas> but how does it fit with the letters from the background?
[2008-04-26 12:12:35] <Rowan> because ----- is 0
[2008-04-26 12:12:38] <Rowan> and ..... is 5
[2008-04-26 12:12:46] <varin> ah, yeah I did
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[2008-04-26 12:13:02] <Rowan> there are 10 background letters and 8 morse numbers
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[2008-04-26 12:14:29] <enaxor> 8 is missing from the number set
[2008-04-26 12:15:10] <varin> so somebody go find a poe sentence with ---..  ;)
[2008-04-26 12:17:54] <Rowan> at least we're on the right track now (with all the puzzles)
[2008-04-26 12:18:04] <varin> so with the new clue, I think RGB is the right direction
[2008-04-26 12:18:19] <natas> we are missing 0 and 8
[2008-04-26 12:18:23] <natas> like 2008?
[2008-04-26 12:18:27] <natas> no luck though
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[2008-04-26 12:18:44] <randomeis> hey sin
[2008-04-26 12:18:51] <Sin_Vraal> alright, so how much have you gotten anyway
[2008-04-26 12:18:59] <Sin_Vraal> i haven't been paying attention to the boards
[2008-04-26 12:19:06] <Rowan> umm... did anyone try ascii codes?
[2008-04-26 12:19:09] <varin> http://www.puzzlecrunch.org/ewill/
[2008-04-26 12:19:12] <Rowan> on the blues?
[2008-04-26 12:19:15] <Sin_Vraal> yea i see that varin.
[2008-04-26 12:19:33] <varin> I started too, but with the "primary" in the clue I stopped figuring it mean red, green, blue
[2008-04-26 12:19:36] <Sin_Vraal> why ascii, did anyone see the hints?  It's very clear what they're suggesting is what randomeis was asking about
[2008-04-26 12:19:39] <varin> er, I strarted to
[2008-04-26 12:19:57] <Rowan> because the 32s are really nicely spaced?
[2008-04-26 12:20:03] <varin> grrr, can't type
[2008-04-26 12:20:18] <Sin_Vraal> 12:00pm - Center 1 : Uncle Palasky was such a star gazer 
[2008-04-26 12:20:25] <Sin_Vraal> i assume that's the one you're talking about
[2008-04-26 12:20:41] <Rowan> umm.. no
[2008-04-26 12:20:45] <Sin_Vraal> oh then i'm wrong.  grin.
[2008-04-26 12:20:46] <varin> oh no, we're talking about the blue square
[2008-04-26 12:20:47] <varin> hehe
[2008-04-26 12:20:59] <AtionSong> I like the idea of putting them in order: http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dfg4vhcf_8frx8wffz
[2008-04-26 12:21:01] <Sin_Vraal> ok then, i'm behind :D
[2008-04-26 12:21:09] <Rowan> i used to be so good at it
[2008-04-26 12:21:10] <Rowan> hang on
[2008-04-26 12:21:10] <Sin_Vraal> is wherever you'r eat posted?
[2008-04-26 12:21:13] <varin> You need to enter "se7en" on the left puzzle
[2008-04-26 12:21:20] <varin> And you need to enter "hill" on the right puzzle
[2008-04-26 12:21:24] <Rowan> it is ascii - so lemme do it quickly
[2008-04-26 12:21:32] <AtionSong> I think its the blue values that matter - we just need to figure out what they mean
[2008-04-26 12:21:52] <varin> go Rowan... go Rowan!
[2008-04-26 12:22:09] <randomeis> i'm getting the wife to fire up her laptop w/ the full version of PS in case it is CYMK
[2008-04-26 12:23:21] <Rowan> what word beceomes longer when a letter is removed
[2008-04-26 12:23:39] <Rowan> ation - yes, if you look at varin's ordering, you take the ascii value
[2008-04-26 12:23:43] <Rowan> and you get "what word beceomes longer when a letter is removed"
[2008-04-26 12:23:48] <varin> yay!
[2008-04-26 12:23:55] <Rowan> sorry - i should have looked at it when you first put it up
[2008-04-26 12:23:59] <Rowan> but i was on the poe i think
[2008-04-26 12:24:21] <varin> lounger
[2008-04-26 12:24:21] <AtionSong> smile
[2008-04-26 12:24:32] <Rowan> oh, and its supposed to be 'becomes' there
[2008-04-26 12:24:35] <AtionSong> take out s, and it become a mile
[2008-04-26 12:24:41] <randomeis> woot
[2008-04-26 12:24:50] <Rowan> yay varin
[2008-04-26 12:25:05] <varin> I just sneak and get the final answer after you guys do the hard stuff ;)
[2008-04-26 12:25:16] <AtionSong> or lounger? take out u, and it becomes lounger
[2008-04-26 12:25:36] <Rowan> strifey should really be here
[2008-04-26 12:25:45] <varin> yeah, where is strifey?
[2008-04-26 12:25:50] <Rowan> probably with emily
[2008-04-26 12:26:19] <enaxor> smile is the answer to the left column
[2008-04-26 12:26:35] <varin> odd...lounger worked for me
[2008-04-26 12:26:41] <varin> two answers?
[2008-04-26 12:26:49] <enaxor> smile didn't work for me
[2008-04-26 12:27:17] <AtionSong> LOUNGER
[2008-04-26 12:27:19] <AtionSong> works
[2008-04-26 12:27:57] <varin> who was putting together the clue board?
[2008-04-26 12:28:01] <AtionSong> me
[2008-04-26 12:28:05] <AtionSong> just a sec
[2008-04-26 12:28:11] <Sin_Vraal> clue board?  
[2008-04-26 12:28:16] <varin> ok, just wanted to make sure the person doing it was still here :)
[2008-04-26 12:28:35] <varin> After some of the puzzle are solved we get portions of a Clue game board with text
[2008-04-26 12:28:42] <varin> http://iwiime.googlepages.com/clueboard.jpg
[2008-04-26 12:29:15] <Rowan> column 1, puzzle 3 reminds me of like taking the first letters from (songs/poems/books) and strining them together
[2008-04-26 12:29:50] <AtionSong> updated
[2008-04-26 12:30:11] <AtionSong> RESPONSE FROM BIG ENCHILADA: Nice job!  You're progressing right alongside many other teams.   Keep it up!
[2008-04-26 12:30:30] <Sin_Vraal> heh did you register or something?
[2008-04-26 12:30:32] <varin> That star one is irking me
[2008-04-26 12:31:09] <AtionSong> ghvin.png
[2008-04-26 12:31:13] <AtionSong> screaming, "I'm
[2008-04-26 12:31:13] <AtionSong> who circled Jup
[2008-04-26 12:31:13] <AtionSong> bathrooms
[2008-04-26 12:31:13] <AtionSong> den boy cherished
[2008-04-26 12:31:13] <AtionSong> leave his sight.
[2008-04-26 12:31:13] <AtionSong> Knight o
[2008-04-26 12:31:13] <AtionSong> d drink w
[2008-04-26 12:31:24] <Sin_Vraal> did y'all figure out the fall of the house of usher one?
[2008-04-26 12:31:36] <Rowan> whats that fron action?
[2008-04-26 12:31:45] <Rowan> ok - the new clue piece. never mind
[2008-04-26 12:32:25] <AtionSong> does anybody have any ideas on the new left-hand puzzle?
[2008-04-26 12:32:32] <Rowan> column 1, puzzle 3 reminds me of like taking the first letters from (songs/poems/books) and strining them together
[2008-04-26 12:32:38] <Sin_Vraal> nobody answered me - did anyone figure out something on the Usher puzzle
[2008-04-26 12:32:40] <Sin_Vraal> the one on the right
[2008-04-26 12:32:49] <Rowan> there are 2 things on the usher puzzle
[2008-04-26 12:32:53] <Sin_Vraal> right
[2008-04-26 12:32:56] <Sin_Vraal> a background and the text
[2008-04-26 12:32:58] <Sin_Vraal> i can take it one more step
[2008-04-26 12:32:59] <Rowan> right
[2008-04-26 12:33:01] <Rowan> sure
[2008-04-26 12:33:06] <varin> go for it
[2008-04-26 12:33:15] <Sin_Vraal> thebackground has some letters and numbers on it
[2008-04-26 12:33:18] <Rowan> we know
[2008-04-26 12:33:25] <Sin_Vraal> and i know if you take the punctuation in the text it spells out an order of numbers from 1-9 (without 8)
[2008-04-26 12:33:38] <Rowan> yes...
[2008-04-26 12:33:44] <varin> right
[2008-04-26 12:33:49] <Sin_Vraal> ok, so you got that far.  see this is why i'm asking
[2008-04-26 12:33:59] <Sin_Vraal> i am playing catch up with you cuz i was doing them by myself :P
[2008-04-26 12:34:07] <Rowan> i would have explained, but you kept on talking
[2008-04-26 12:34:15] <Sin_Vraal> i do that
[2008-04-26 12:34:22] * varin throws some cookies into the room
[2008-04-26 12:35:28] <Sin_Vraal> what if one orders the string background by the order suggested by the morse
[2008-04-26 12:35:38] <Sin_Vraal> leaving the positions alone that weren't covered
[2008-04-26 12:38:49] <Rowan> bbiab - lunch
[2008-04-26 12:40:19] <randomeis> what page is it pulling the 3rd left puzzle from?
[2008-04-26 12:42:43] <natas> i still can't figure out the middle one,  it definitly is some sort of star grouping, I'm guessin by the hint. and also has to do with july.  I googled July constellations and came up with ten choices, all of which didn't work
[2008-04-26 12:43:30] <AtionSong> it's a horoscope map
[2008-04-26 12:44:20] <AtionSong> http://www.psychicguild.com/reports/3.jpg
[2008-04-26 12:45:30] <enaxor> the hint says break it into a few primary components, to me that means red yellow blue dots
[2008-04-26 12:45:46] <AtionSong> no, that's for the old left puzzle
[2008-04-26 12:45:50] <AtionSong> we already solved that one
[2008-04-26 12:46:33] <enaxor> oh nm
[2008-04-26 12:46:43] <enaxor> i see that now
[2008-04-26 12:48:09] <natas> transposing as suggested by sin_Vraal,  I get bLakC4ts,  which means black cats as the fireworks,  but it doens't work for me
[2008-04-26 12:48:16] <natas> I've tried black cats
[2008-04-26 12:48:18] <natas> blackcats
[2008-04-26 12:48:24] <natas> blackc4ts
[2008-04-26 12:48:29] <natas> anyone else?
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[2008-04-26 12:49:03] <randomeis> those are the same letters as the background in the other puzzle right?
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[2008-04-26 12:49:21] <AtionSong> for middle, http://www.0800-horoscope.com/birthchart.php <can give you the star map for any day
[2008-04-26 12:49:56] <varin> The star one is "Aquarius"
[2008-04-26 12:50:12] <natas> yes
[2008-04-26 12:50:16] <randomeis> woot!
[2008-04-26 12:50:17] <natas> random
[2008-04-26 12:50:22] <natas> oh good
[2008-04-26 12:50:25] <natas> man i was way off
[2008-04-26 12:50:32] <Rogi> Hi, all.  Sorry for the tardiness.
[2008-04-26 12:50:42] <varin> I *think* you connect the dots and get 11 of the 12 zodiac constellations
[2008-04-26 12:50:53] <AtionSong> how wow, easier than we though
[2008-04-26 12:50:54] <AtionSong> t
[2008-04-26 12:50:55] <enaxor> nice
[2008-04-26 12:51:03] <varin> I think the missing one is Aquarius, but I just entered all 12 until I got the right one
[2008-04-26 12:51:10] <natas> crap i got the 3rd
[2008-04-26 12:51:13] <AtionSong> did anybody get a clue piece? I didn't
[2008-04-26 12:51:16] <natas> blakc4ts
[2008-04-26 12:51:20] <natas> for the 3rd
[2008-04-26 12:51:23] <varin> (and I didn't solve that one... a mysterious stranger helped me)
[2008-04-26 12:51:27] <natas> i was enterint the answer in the wrong place
[2008-04-26 12:51:31] <varin> haha
[2008-04-26 12:51:33] <Rogi> How for in are you?
[2008-04-26 12:51:34] <varin> yay natas!
[2008-04-26 12:51:41] <natas> man i feel slow
[2008-04-26 12:51:48] <Rogi> *far
[2008-04-26 12:51:52] <AtionSong> http://www.puzzlecrunch.org/ewill/pman.mov
[2008-04-26 12:52:12] <natas> great solve on the middle one even with my muddling things up
[2008-04-26 12:52:18] <Rogi> Oh noes. Multimedia content.  I'm screwed!
[2008-04-26 12:52:40] <varin> Do you need to be caught up, Rogi?
[2008-04-26 12:52:50] <Sin_Vraal> where'd the pacman come from ation
[2008-04-26 12:52:54] <Sin_Vraal> i mean where on the screen did you find it
[2008-04-26 12:53:12] <Rogi> Today's a nightmare for me.  So I'll just be a puzzle grunt when possible.
[2008-04-26 12:53:16] <AtionSong> alt text for the image
[2008-04-26 12:53:23] <Sin_Vraal> which image
[2008-04-26 12:53:29] <varin> middle one
[2008-04-26 12:55:12] <enaxor> it's the dot in the grid
[2008-04-26 12:55:31] <Sin_Vraal> what is the dot on the grid
[2008-04-26 12:55:49] <varin> do we follow pacman's path on our grid?
[2008-04-26 12:55:51] <RandomJaz> http://www.puzzlecrunch.org/ewill/pman.mov
[2008-04-26 12:55:52] <enaxor> in the word grid on the center puzzle
[2008-04-26 12:56:07] <enaxor> under the H
[2008-04-26 12:56:16] <Sin_Vraal> oh the movie is
[2008-04-26 12:56:20] <enaxor> yes
[2008-04-26 12:56:27] <RandomJaz> I can't play it, what does it show?
[2008-04-26 12:56:38] <AtionSong> izmdc.png
[2008-04-26 12:56:41] <Rogi> Still loading, for me.
[2008-04-26 12:56:43] <AtionSong> best
[2008-04-26 12:56:43] <AtionSong> alth[ough]
[2008-04-26 12:56:43] <AtionSong> expl
[2008-04-26 12:56:43] <AtionSong> [th]e machine
[2008-04-26 12:56:43] <AtionSong> ly those of
[2008-04-26 12:56:43] <AtionSong> 
[2008-04-26 12:56:43] <varin> pacman eating dots around the maze
[2008-04-26 12:58:02] <AtionSong> http://iwiime.googlepages.com/clueboard.jpg <two pieces fit together
[2008-04-26 12:59:51] <natas> the red letters from puzzle 3 are cpvatdtuvtrc but i make no sense from them
[2008-04-26 13:00:14] <AtionSong> Pacman's moves: LDLDRURURDRURULURULDLULDRDRDRURU
[2008-04-26 13:00:30] <Sin_Vraal> i checked again.  14 LDLDRURURDRURULURULDLULDRDRDRURU01
[2008-04-26 13:00:39] <Sin_Vraal> ok they match
[2008-04-26 13:00:48] <Sin_Vraal> good job
[2008-04-26 13:00:58] <AtionSong> *high five
[2008-04-26 13:01:10] <RandomJaz> so where does packman start from?
[2008-04-26 13:01:16] <randomeis> the dot i imagine
[2008-04-26 13:01:18] <Sin_Vraal> where he always starts from
[2008-04-26 13:01:40] <AtionSong> I tried that, but got random letters:
[2008-04-26 13:02:38] <AtionSong> HGCZNRWJMGTIRIOPEQABGRR... and it falls apart for the rest after there
[2008-04-26 13:02:50] <Sin_Vraal> no hints btw
[2008-04-26 13:03:00] <Sin_Vraal> how do they know people are on 'teams' tho heh
[2008-04-26 13:04:10] <AtionSong> any progress on the 3rd right puzzle?
[2008-04-26 13:04:26] <RandomJaz> did poe get solved?
[2008-04-26 13:04:54] <AtionSong> not yet
[2008-04-26 13:05:23] <enaxor> yes
[2008-04-26 13:05:36] <randomeis> yeah it was solved RandomJaz
[2008-04-26 13:05:41] <AtionSong> where?
[2008-04-26 13:05:54] <randomeis> blakc4ts
[2008-04-26 13:05:57] <enaxor> [10:51] <natas> blakc4ts
[2008-04-26 13:06:00] <Rowan> aww, no 1pm hints
[2008-04-26 13:06:08] <AtionSong> ah, missed it!
[2008-04-26 13:06:15] <randomeis> we're doing too good for our own good
[2008-04-26 13:06:20] <enaxor> sorry
[2008-04-26 13:07:35] <natas> i started from the dot and got "gcznrcjhgmitiesrqgrricsjilstiepa" but it didn't work either
[2008-04-26 13:08:03] <Rogi> Does PM always have the "1600" reference in the beginning? I can't find the game at neave.com
[2008-04-26 13:08:34] <AtionSong> board updated: http://iwiime.googlepages.com/clueboard.jpg
[2008-04-26 13:08:40] <AtionSong> two more pieces fit together
[2008-04-26 13:09:40] <AtionSong> ? what
[2008-04-26 13:09:40] <AtionSong> own fact that th[w]
[2008-04-26 13:09:40] <AtionSong> 		The
[2008-04-26 13:09:40] <AtionSong> ner's channel	wit
[2008-04-26 13:09:40] <AtionSong> mom's		par
[2008-04-26 13:09:40] <AtionSong> there is a spoon".
[2008-04-26 13:09:52] <AtionSong> vsprk.png
[2008-04-26 13:10:26] <Rowan> i dont think you need to type it all out if we have it in an image we can read
[2008-04-26 13:11:15] <AtionSong> just trying to help
[2008-04-26 13:13:52] <varin> The text on the right is from The Pit and the Pendulum
[2008-04-26 13:15:08] <natas> 0553004371-numbers from the 3rd puzzle
[2008-04-26 13:15:22] <natas> cpvatdtuvtrc- letters from 3rd puzzle
[2008-04-26 13:15:29] <varin> red letters - cpvatdtuvtrc
[2008-04-26 13:15:32] <varin> heh
[2008-04-26 13:16:14] <natas> gotta giftwrap a present.  brb
[2008-04-26 13:23:15] <AtionSong> OSSEOOAEYI = vowels CPVATDTUVTRC = consnants ?
[2008-04-26 13:23:24] <AtionSong> wait...never mind
[2008-04-26 13:25:30] <Sin_Vraal> the 7 was a T, anyway
[2008-04-26 13:28:37] <AtionSong> hmm...roll call for those still paying attention
[2008-04-26 13:28:42] <enaxor> [11:15] <natas> 0553004371-numbers from the 3rd puzzle <--- your missing a 1 after the first three
[2008-04-26 13:28:59] <enaxor> your=you're
[2008-04-26 13:29:05] <natas> thank you
[2008-04-26 13:29:19] <enaxor> glad I could help with something lol
[2008-04-26 13:30:37] <AtionSong> COPSVSAETIDOTOUAVETTRIC
[2008-04-26 13:31:24] <enaxor> there is also a 1 after the four
[2008-04-26 13:31:51] <enaxor> 0055310041371
[2008-04-26 13:32:11] <varin> hehe Ation.  I was just doing the same thing
[2008-04-26 13:32:16] <varin> like a pendulum
[2008-04-26 13:32:21] <AtionSong> lol
[2008-04-26 13:32:41] <enaxor> rail fence
[2008-04-26 13:32:47] <AtionSong> so COPSVSAETIDOTOUAVITERTCI
[2008-04-26 13:33:06] <AtionSong> Tou a vitertci - isn't that Italian? :-)
[2008-04-26 13:33:41] <varin> where is the 1 after the 4, enaxor?  
[2008-04-26 13:34:07] <enaxor> in the word intens1ty 
[2008-04-26 13:34:13] <Rowan> the numbers i have are 055310041371
[2008-04-26 13:34:14] <varin> oh, I see it now.
[2008-04-26 13:34:19] <varin> <--- blind apparently
[2008-04-26 13:34:35] <Rowan> i dont see two 0s at the front
[2008-04-26 13:36:13] <varin> me neither, I see 055310041371
[2008-04-26 13:40:37] <AtionSong> has anybody had any luck with the other two puzzles, or are we at a standstill?
[2008-04-26 13:41:10] <Rowan> i wonder if you move the letters back and forth based on the numbers
[2008-04-26 13:41:25] <Rowan> like c +- 0 = c
[2008-04-26 13:41:40] <Rowan> p +- 5 = u or k
[2008-04-26 13:42:47] <AtionSong> v +- 5 = q or a
[2008-04-26 13:43:36] <Rogi> Where is the numbers puzzle?
[2008-04-26 13:43:49] <natas> last one
[2008-04-26 13:43:50] <Rogi> And does it hint at the periodic table?
[2008-04-26 13:43:50] <Rowan> column 3 #3
[2008-04-26 13:43:53] <Rogi> i.e:
[2008-04-26 13:43:54] <natas> 3rd one
[2008-04-26 13:43:55] <Rogi> B-I-Ne-Be-Al-Lu
[2008-04-26 13:44:03] <natas> hmm
[2008-04-26 13:44:06] <Rowan> not that i see
[2008-04-26 13:44:30] <Rowan> unless i'm missig something
[2008-04-26 13:44:36] <Rogi> Okay
[2008-04-26 13:45:00] <Rogi> I'm pretty lost, here.
[2008-04-26 13:45:15] <Rogi> "3rd one" means?
[2008-04-26 13:45:25] <Rowan> http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/pit.html
[2008-04-26 13:45:32] <Rowan> 3rd column, 3rd puzzle
[2008-04-26 13:45:52] <Rogi> "oleo"
[2008-04-26 13:45:54] <Rogi> ?
[2008-04-26 13:46:10] <Rowan> oleo doesnt work
[2008-04-26 13:46:44] <Rogi> My grandmother always called margarinr, "oleo".
[2008-04-26 13:46:54] <Rogi> *margarine
[2008-04-26 13:46:55] <Rowan> i have no ideawhat youare talking about
[2008-04-26 13:47:00] <Rowan> where are you getting margarine?
[2008-04-26 13:47:13] <varin> oh, I just remembered you were in my dream last night Rowan
[2008-04-26 13:47:24] <Rowan> lol - should i be scared/
[2008-04-26 13:47:28] <varin> hehe, maybe
[2008-04-26 13:47:47] <varin> We were eating at a restaurant in an airport and they were trying to serve us ferret
[2008-04-26 13:47:56] <Rowan> ack!
[2008-04-26 13:47:59] <varin> it was disgusting
[2008-04-26 13:49:12] <natas> i have a ferret named nemo
[2008-04-26 13:49:20] <natas> crackhead ferret5
[2008-04-26 13:49:48] <AtionSong> Rowan, tried your idea
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> c +- 0 = c
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> p +- 5 = u or k
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> v +- 5 = q or a
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> a +- 3 = d or x
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> t +- 1 = s pr u
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> d +- 0 = d
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> t +- 0 = t
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> u +- 4 = y or q
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> v +- 1 = u or w
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> t +- 3 = w or q
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> r +- 7 = y or k
[2008-04-26 13:49:52] <AtionSong> C +- 1 = d or b
[2008-04-26 13:49:53] <Rogi> I'm still trying to find a 3rd puzzle.  Let alone a 3rd column.
[2008-04-26 13:49:53] <natas> how does oleo fit in?
[2008-04-26 13:50:18] <varin> Rogi: which puzzles do you see?
[2008-04-26 13:50:23] <Rogi> oleoi was just the 3rd entry of the 3rd column on the ewill page.
[2008-04-26 13:50:29] <Rowan> btw - this si where we are: http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/answers.html
[2008-04-26 13:50:43] <Rogi> *oleo.
[2008-04-26 13:50:49] <Rogi> Can't type, today.
[2008-04-26 13:51:26] <Rowan> we're past that puzzle rogi
[2008-04-26 13:52:38] <AtionSong> wait, have we or haven't we solved column 3 puzzle #3?
[2008-04-26 13:52:42] <Rowan> there are 3 puzzles on the page at one time. we're calling them columns because when you solve one, you get a new one
[2008-04-26 13:53:12] <Rowan> so the third puzzle on the page when you start out. the first answer is hill. the second answer is blakc4ts. and now we're on the 3rd puzzle
[2008-04-26 13:53:12] <AtionSong> right, so the I WAS sick... puzzle - have we solved it yet?
[2008-04-26 13:53:17] <AtionSong> oh, okay
[2008-04-26 13:53:18] <Rowan> so that would be column 3, puzzle 3
[2008-04-26 13:53:22] <AtionSong> yes
[2008-04-26 13:53:26] <AtionSong> gotcha
[2008-04-26 13:53:28] <Rowan> no, we have not solved it
[2008-04-26 13:53:31] <AtionSong> gotcha
[2008-04-26 13:53:45] <Rowan> but rogi isnt caught up and i'm trying to explain our vocab
[2008-04-26 13:53:55] <AtionSong> it all makes sense now
[2008-04-26 13:57:06] <Rowan> i'm not sure my theory of +- pans out, because you cant really make anything with the end letters
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[2008-04-26 13:58:26] <Rowan> the long strings of letters are annoying me
[2008-04-26 13:59:41] <randomeis> Left puzzle 3: speeches maybe?
[2008-04-26 14:00:02] <Rowan> speeches, poems, books, songs...
[2008-04-26 14:00:14] <Rowan> i'm guessign its the first letter of each line/word
[2008-04-26 14:00:16] <varin> well, they're not Sherlock Holmes books
[2008-04-26 14:00:38] <AtionSong> Hints: 2:00pm - Center 2 : Does the yellow man seem to have any favorite points of interest?
[2008-04-26 14:01:57] <randomeis> ppppppower pelets?
[2008-04-26 14:02:21] <varin> and ghosts?
[2008-04-26 14:03:47] <varin> and fruit
[2008-04-26 14:04:53] <Rowan> i'm drawing out his progress on the grid
[2008-04-26 14:04:54] <Rowan> one second
[2008-04-26 14:07:10] <Rowan> http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/pacman.png
[2008-04-26 14:07:19] <Rowan> he doesnt cross his path at all
[2008-04-26 14:09:13] <randomeis> if you squint it kinda looks like ET
[2008-04-26 14:09:44] <Rowan> lol
[2008-04-26 14:11:52] <AtionSong> i've tried all kinds of superimpositions and rotations, but none of them seem to produce anything usable
[2008-04-26 14:12:29] <Rogi> Maybe a url? The "httpwww"pattern works out with substitution.
[2008-04-26 14:12:58] <AtionSong> how?
[2008-04-26 14:13:48] <Rogi> Just number of pellets in a direction.  What numbers do you get?
[2008-04-26 14:14:01] <Rowan> i didnt count pellets
[2008-04-26 14:14:08] <Rogi> i.e: 5 7 7 10 4 4
[2008-04-26 14:15:17] <Rogi> Gah! NM.
[2008-04-26 14:15:32] <AtionSong> what?
[2008-04-26 14:15:41] <Rowan> i think he was counting wrong
[2008-04-26 14:15:50] <Rogi> Don't know where I got the "10".
[2008-04-26 14:16:07] <Rowan> i dont see how you got 5 for the first number :)
[2008-04-26 14:16:32] <AtionSong> I got 7 4 6 4
[2008-04-26 14:16:41] <AtionSong> i still think that that has merit though
[2008-04-26 14:16:59] <Rowan> i would say 7 3 5 3 .. but still same basic idea
[2008-04-26 14:17:46] <AtionSong> that depends on whether we're counting pellets total or pellets eaten, doesn't it?
[2008-04-26 14:18:38] <Rogi> Could be 1-4-6-6-3-3-3-4-...
[2008-04-26 14:18:58] <Rogi> Don't see where you get 7 for the first one.
[2008-04-26 14:19:00] <Rowan> yeah, but you should still be able to see a pattern if you're just one off
[2008-04-26 14:19:18] <Rowan> he goes left 7 pellets
[2008-04-26 14:19:27] <Rowan> before turning left to eat 3 more pellets
[2008-04-26 14:19:53] <Rogi> The yellow ghost?
[2008-04-26 14:19:54] <Rowan> or going down
[2008-04-26 14:19:59] <Rowan> oh , 'm talking pacman
[2008-04-26 14:20:04] <Rogi> Ahh.
[2008-04-26 14:20:13] <Rogi> I think the hint points to yellow.
[2008-04-26 14:20:14] <Rowan> i didnt map the yellow ghost
[2008-04-26 14:20:19] <Rowan> (pacman is yellow)
[2008-04-26 14:20:32] <Rowan> you want the yellow ghost done?
[2008-04-26 14:20:47] <Rogi> PacMan's aqua on my screen.
[2008-04-26 14:20:59] <Rowan> he's yellow
[2008-04-26 14:21:04] <randomeis> 055310041371 the numbers in the I'm Sick puzzle
[2008-04-26 14:21:06] <Rowan> and the 'yellow' ghost is actually orange
[2008-04-26 14:21:24] <randomeis> maybe a phone number and extension?>
[2008-04-26 14:21:26] <Rowan> random: and the letters aer cpvatdtuvtrc
[2008-04-26 14:21:30] <Rowan> s/aer/are
[2008-04-26 14:25:57] <randomeis> an nevermind it starts at 201 in the US
[2008-04-26 14:31:19] <AtionSong> any new thoughts on right puzzle #3?
[2008-04-26 14:33:00] <Rowan> nope
[2008-04-26 14:33:26] <AtionSong> any thoughts besides just text between each other?
[2008-04-26 14:40:12] <Rowan> if its books for 1.3 - jules verne is the only one that published in all 4 years
[2008-04-26 14:40:21] <Rowan> but he only did one  book in 1903
[2008-04-26 14:40:39] <Sin_Vraal> sherlock holmes published in all 4 years
[2008-04-26 14:40:49] <Sin_Vraal> er -was- published
[2008-04-26 14:40:52] <randomeis> row check holmes i think
[2008-04-26 14:41:02] <randomeis> *checked
[2008-04-26 14:41:07] <Sin_Vraal> then she's smoking crack, cuz i got his anthology here, and all 4 years are there
[2008-04-26 14:41:35] <varin> I checked the individual works to see if the letters matched
[2008-04-26 14:42:03] <varin> the first letters of each paragraph
[2008-04-26 14:42:04] <Rowan> i cant see one for 1893 for holmes (at least not on wiki)
[2008-04-26 14:42:23] <Sin_Vraal> rule #1, ignore wikis
[2008-04-26 14:42:46] <Sin_Vraal> http://www.sherlockian.net/canon/index.html
[2008-04-26 14:44:01] <Rowan> then since you have the anthology, you can check to see if the letters match
[2008-04-26 14:44:47] <Sin_Vraal> match what
[2008-04-26 14:44:58] <Sin_Vraal> you can use that site i gave you to find the texts each online too ftw
[2008-04-26 14:45:04] <Rowan> the strings of letters, either to lines or words
[2008-04-26 14:45:05] <Sin_Vraal> i've already tried matching stuff
[2008-04-26 14:45:21] <enaxor> three of the lines have X's in them, not sure what words would be used
[2008-04-26 14:46:07] <varin> but most of those links are dead vraal... 221bakerstreet.org is better (although you'll have to cross reference the dates)
[2008-04-26 14:46:08] <enaxor> and a couple Z's and Q's
[2008-04-26 14:46:35] <randomeis> sherlock holmes is the answer
[2008-04-26 14:46:57] <Rowan> nice to know we figured it out without figuring it out
[2008-04-26 14:47:05] <randomeis> 1.4 is some kind of found art
[2008-04-26 14:47:09] <varin> ha
[2008-04-26 14:47:44] <varin> it's just sherlock holmes?  That figures.  
[2008-04-26 14:48:13] <AtionSong> nice work everyone!
[2008-04-26 14:48:22] <varin> title of the new pic is iSpyy.jpg
[2008-04-26 14:49:51] <AtionSong> http://iwiime.googlepages.com/clueboard.jpg <updated
[2008-04-26 14:50:12] <Rogi> On 2.2, Did anyone else get: "HGCZNRCJHGMITIESRQGRRICSJILSTIPA" for the moves?
[2008-04-26 14:50:49] <AtionSong> HGCZNRWJMGTIRIOPEQABGRR was how I started out
[2008-04-26 14:51:45] <Rogi> You'd have to go 2 right to get the "W".
[2008-04-26 14:53:45] <AtionSong> can anybody guess who Stockholm's golden boy is?
[2008-04-26 14:54:08] <AtionSong> Big Enchilada response: Great to hear it.  You're making great progress :)
[2008-04-26 14:54:57] <Sin_Vraal> did that come from ation, stockholm's golden boy
[2008-04-26 14:55:06] <Sin_Vraal> er where did
[2008-04-26 14:57:13] <Rowan> i would guess alfred nobel to be associated with stockholm
[2008-04-26 14:57:23] <Sin_Vraal> where did that question come from
[2008-04-26 14:57:25] <AtionSong> putting two of the clue pieces together, you get:
[2008-04-26 14:57:35] <AtionSong> Stockholm's golden boy cherished...
[2008-04-26 14:57:35] <AtionSong> ...never letting it leave his sight.
[2008-04-26 14:58:11] <Rowan> for the ispy i have the following: 3 cds, 5 spoons, 8 push pins, 4 cheese-its, 7 pennies, 6 paperclips, 2 pens, 6 bottlecaps, 2 pairs of earbuds, and 1 piece of paper
[2008-04-26 14:58:36] <varin> I have 9 pennies
[2008-04-26 14:58:53] <Rowan> okay you're right. 9 pennies
[2008-04-26 14:59:15] <varin> The rest of mine match though
[2008-04-26 15:00:30] <AtionSong> for the beer caps. there are 2 sam adams, Dos Equis, Mike's Hard Lemonade, and two unknowns, yes?
[2008-04-26 15:01:21] <varin> looks like it
[2008-04-26 15:02:16] <enaxor> I have 1 paper, 2 pens, 2 earbuds, 3 cd, 4 cheez its, 5 spoons, 6 bottle caps, 7 paper clips, 8 tacks, and 9 pennys
[2008-04-26 15:02:37] <Sin_Vraal> i don't see 7 clips
[2008-04-26 15:02:51] <varin> that's what I have too enaxor
[2008-04-26 15:03:05] <Sin_Vraal> yes, i found my missing one
[2008-04-26 15:03:07] <Rowan> yeah, 7 paper clips
[2008-04-26 15:03:07] <AtionSong> I agree, 7.
[2008-04-26 15:03:37] <AtionSong> hmm... pens and earbuds... otherwise i'd guess to plug in the digits
[2008-04-26 15:03:58] <randomeis> clear thumbtacks, now that is evil
[2008-04-26 15:03:59] <Rowan> unless you can find another cheeseit
[2008-04-26 15:04:08] <Rowan> oh wait - no that wouldtn work
[2008-04-26 15:04:19] <Rogi> 4 earbuds?
[2008-04-26 15:04:49] <enaxor> I meant 2 sets
[2008-04-26 15:04:54] <Rowan> yeah, but you'd still have an issue with 4 earbuds and 4 cheezits
[2008-04-26 15:05:02] <Rogi> true.
[2008-04-26 15:05:20] <AtionSong> omg, i think it's an optical illusion
[2008-04-26 15:05:26] <AtionSong> try to trace the earbuds cords
[2008-04-26 15:06:49] <AtionSong> the lower earbuds, there's no jack. one earbud it connected straight to the other
[2008-04-26 15:07:00] <AtionSong> the red spoon in the lower right corner covers it up
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[2008-04-26 15:07:37] <varin> All of mine connect okay
[2008-04-26 15:09:25] <randomeis> all items that have a sort of a standard size?
[2008-04-26 15:09:35] <randomeis> or area
[2008-04-26 15:09:58] <AtionSong> New hints!
[2008-04-26 15:10:00] <AtionSong> # 3:10pm - Center 2 : Consider drawing a map of our hero's path
[2008-04-26 15:10:00] <AtionSong> # 3:10pm - Right 3 : If you've found the numbers, you're in good position, and the image is the key.
[2008-04-26 15:10:23] <varin> bah, we already drew a map
[2008-04-26 15:10:41] <randomeis> the image name has 2 ys
[2008-04-26 15:10:49] <AtionSong> what image?
[2008-04-26 15:11:06] <Rowan> i didnt know there was an image with Right 3
[2008-04-26 15:11:21] <varin> i didn't either
[2008-04-26 15:12:12] <varin> oh wait, is that right 2 they're talking about?
[2008-04-26 15:12:26] <varin> blakc4ts
[2008-04-26 15:12:26] <AtionSong> well, it says right three...
[2008-04-26 15:12:37] <Rowan> i think they are talking about right 2
[2008-04-26 15:13:16] <AtionSong> I'm asking them righ tnow
[2008-04-26 15:14:45] <Rowan> the pacman map again: http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/pacman.png
[2008-04-26 15:15:25] <AtionSong> They've changed it on the homepage to say Right 2. THat might mean that we're ahead of the curve!
[2008-04-26 15:16:45] <Rowan> woo
[2008-04-26 15:17:01] <AtionSong> So to recap, thepacman clues have been: 1. Ah, when video games only let you move in four directions..., 2. Does the yellow man seem to have any favorite points of interest?, and 3. Consider drawing a map of our hero's path
[2008-04-26 15:17:38] <Rowan> reminds me of the stupid logowriter puzzle
[2008-04-26 15:21:00] <Rowan> haha i got right 4
[2008-04-26 15:21:02] <Rowan> psycho
[2008-04-26 15:21:20] <varin> hrm?
[2008-04-26 15:21:22] <Rowan> 13 - item 1, 3rd letter
[2008-04-26 15:21:33] <Rowan> 51 - item 5, 1st letter
[2008-04-26 15:21:42] <varin> oh, the left one
[2008-04-26 15:21:44] <varin> yay!
[2008-04-26 15:21:46] <Rowan> oh sorry
[2008-04-26 15:21:52] <Rowan> i was too excited :)
[2008-04-26 15:24:17] <Rowan> so we're over halfway through now
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[2008-04-26 15:30:39] <AtionSong> w00t!
[2008-04-26 15:30:42] <AtionSong> w00t!
[2008-04-26 15:30:47] <varin> woot?
[2008-04-26 15:30:59] <varin> woot what?
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[2008-04-26 15:32:50] <Rowan> hi apb
[2008-04-26 15:32:55] <APB> hi
[2008-04-26 15:33:09] <APB> i'm afraid i'm way behind...
[2008-04-26 15:33:11] <Rowan> current solutions are: http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/answers.html
[2008-04-26 15:33:19] <Rogi> Hi, Avon.
[2008-04-26 15:33:27] <Rowan> and there are some working files in that puzzle directory
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[2008-04-26 15:34:02] <Rowan> current solutions are: http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/answers.html
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[2008-04-26 15:34:18] <Rowan> current solutions are: http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/answers.html
[2008-04-26 15:34:27] <AtionSong> Hmm... Rowan, stop spamming...
[2008-04-26 15:34:36] <AtionSong> oh, nm
[2008-04-26 15:34:38] <AtionSong> srry
[2008-04-26 15:34:46] <Rowan> well, if you want people to be behind...
[2008-04-26 15:34:48] <APB> oh good, i can help
[2008-04-26 15:34:51] <AtionSong> BTW, we've completed a phrase now, very enigmatic
[2008-04-26 15:34:53] <AtionSong> The inventor of Turner's channel
[2008-04-26 15:34:53] <AtionSong> never moved out of mom's
[2008-04-26 15:34:53] <AtionSong> basement, where "there is a spoon".
[2008-04-26 15:34:55] <Rowan> or you could add stuff to the topic since you are the only op
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[2008-04-26 15:35:19] <APB> you're at the white square with with the letters?
[2008-04-26 15:35:24] <Rowan> yes
[2008-04-26 15:35:29] <Rowan> there is a mov associated with it
[2008-04-26 15:35:31] <APB> ok, found the video?
[2008-04-26 15:35:33] <APB> good
[2008-04-26 15:35:41] <AtionSong> would Turner's channel be CNN?
[2008-04-26 15:35:42] <Rowan> http://www.puzzlecrunch.org/ewill/pman.mov
[2008-04-26 15:35:54] <Phil> TNT i'd think
[2008-04-26 15:35:54] <Rowan> and this is the map: http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/pacman.png
[2008-04-26 15:36:03] <APB> every time you cross a letter twice, take the letter
[2008-04-26 15:37:00] <Control> AtionSong: you should register this room
[2008-04-26 15:37:02] <varin> he never crosses his path
[2008-04-26 15:37:08] <Phil> hmm, video wont work
[2008-04-26 15:37:33] <AtionSong> How would I register it?
[2008-04-26 15:38:11] <Control> type: /cs register #unficcrunch <PASSWORD> <DESCRIPTION>
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[2008-04-26 15:38:46] <Rowan> you dont need to register it for such a short time
[2008-04-26 15:38:51] <Rowan> jsut add a topic
[2008-04-26 15:39:03] <AtionSong> And how would I do that?
[2008-04-26 15:39:10] <Rowan> actually..
[2008-04-26 15:39:21] =-= Rowan has changed the topic to ``http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/answers.html''
[2008-04-26 15:39:29] <AtionSong> There we go.
[2008-04-26 15:39:33] <Rowan> i forget its not +t at the beginning
[2008-04-26 15:39:37] <Rogi> Cchristie
[2008-04-26 15:39:42] <Rogi> -C
[2008-04-26 15:39:50] <Rowan> nice rogi
[2008-04-26 15:39:53] <Rowan> and apb
[2008-04-26 15:40:00] <Rogi> That was APB
[2008-04-26 15:40:01] <AtionSong> I think that the passage I put up refers to "The Matrix". It was produced by Warner Brothers, a production company owned by Ted Turner, and "there is a spoon" is a quote from the movie. What that means, who knows.
[2008-04-26 15:40:06] <varin> ah nice
[2008-04-26 15:40:15] <varin> stupid pacman
[2008-04-26 15:40:35] <Rogi> And good job on psycho, Ro.
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[2008-04-26 15:40:56] <Phil> any thoughts on the third puzzle's level 3 problem?
[2008-04-26 15:41:01] <Phil> the Poe passage?
[2008-04-26 15:41:30] <Rowan> my thought was take the letters and move forward or backward depending on the number
[2008-04-26 15:41:42] <Rowan> like c +-0 = c
[2008-04-26 15:41:52] <Phil> yeah, could be
[2008-04-26 15:41:57] <Rowan> p +- 5 = u/k
[2008-04-26 15:42:07] <Rowan> but i cant get anything close to words
[2008-04-26 15:42:43] <Rowan> honestly, these puzzles havent been too hard so far, so i would guess we might be over thinking
[2008-04-26 15:43:50] <Phil> i wonder if it actually has somethign to do with Poe
[2008-04-26 15:44:03] <Rogi> There's not as much "work" for a given puzzle as there was on the fall contest.
[2008-04-26 15:46:04] <randomeis> i think the meta puzzle will be the fun one
[2008-04-26 15:47:31] <Rowan> rogi: maybe thats  why its only a 1 day one
[2008-04-26 15:52:28] <Rowan> any thoughts on the column of numbers/
[2008-04-26 15:52:46] <Phil> what column?
[2008-04-26 15:52:55] <Rowan> center 3
[2008-04-26 15:53:03] <Phil> wait, you got pacman?
[2008-04-26 15:53:09] <Rowan> yes - christie
[2008-04-26 15:53:09] <varin> I thought maybe a cryptogram, but there are only two repeats
[2008-04-26 15:53:50] <AtionSong> how did you get pacman Rowan?
[2008-04-26 15:54:07] <Rowan> [16:35] <APB> every time you cross a letter twice, take the letter
[2008-04-26 15:55:28] <AtionSong> nice
[2008-04-26 15:55:40] <AtionSong> clue board updated
[2008-04-26 15:59:06] <Rogi> I keep wanting to Mod(26) the damn numbers.
[2008-04-26 16:00:52] <AtionSong> # 4:00pm - Center 3 : This puzzle is really quite elementary.
[2008-04-26 16:00:52] <AtionSong> # 4:00pm - Right 3 : If you can't figure it out, feel free to aks or something.
[2008-04-26 16:00:52] <AtionSong> 
[2008-04-26 16:01:09] <Phil> periodic table for the numbers then
[2008-04-26 16:01:09] <Rowan> okay - so peridic table
[2008-04-26 16:03:07] <varin> white in library with candlestick
[2008-04-26 16:03:37] <AtionSong> doesn't work...
[2008-04-26 16:03:48] <varin> it's what the numbers translate to
[2008-04-26 16:03:53] <AtionSong> see above
[2008-04-26 16:04:04] <Rowan> but still - its gotta be important
[2008-04-26 16:04:06] <Phil> Cluedo
[2008-04-26 16:04:17] <varin> i know :)  The periodic table numbers = white in library with candlestick
[2008-04-26 16:05:02] <Phil> i like that puzzle, it's a clever one without being technical
[2008-04-26 16:05:08] <Rogi> What's it called in Clue when you actually accuse someone?
[2008-04-26 16:05:14] <AtionSong> what's white's title
[2008-04-26 16:05:17] <AtionSong> Mr?
[2008-04-26 16:05:20] <Rowan> mrs
[2008-04-26 16:05:51] <randomeis> i bet the answer is communism 
[2008-04-26 16:06:10] <Rowan> lol
[2008-04-26 16:06:25] <Rowan> sadly no :)
[2008-04-26 16:06:33] <AtionSong> it's not accusation Rogi
[2008-04-26 16:06:45] <Rowan> "feel free to aks or something"  <-- aks or ask?
[2008-04-26 16:07:41] <AtionSong> they've updated the clues, but left in that "error", so i'm guessing its okay
[2008-04-26 16:08:53] <randomeis> no dice w/ the movie
[2008-04-26 16:09:03] <randomeis> it was only used in the hall and the study
[2008-04-26 16:09:28] <AtionSong> I asked whether the spelling error was intentional. Response from Big Enchilada: That's an interesting thought.  :-)
[2008-04-26 16:10:49] <AtionSong> I tried anagramming numbers and red letters... http://www.oneacross.com/cgi-bin/search_anagram.cgi?i=2&p0=&c0=&p1=OSSEIOOAIETICPVATDTUVTRC&c1=&s=Go+2
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[2008-04-26 16:11:11] <Rowan> the wiki page has this as an example: "I suggest it was Mrs. White, in the Library, with the Rope." 
[2008-04-26 16:11:41] <Rogi> It's not "Blunt force trauma" ;)
[2008-04-26 16:11:45] <varin> hehe
[2008-04-26 16:11:49] <varin> it's not suggestion
[2008-04-26 16:11:49] <Rowan> lol
[2008-04-26 16:12:15] <varin> bah
[2008-04-26 16:12:27] <varin> it's "white in library with candalstick"
[2008-04-26 16:12:43] <Rowan> haha
[2008-04-26 16:13:00] <AtionSong> wait, what?
[2008-04-26 16:13:11] <Rowan> there's not an EL element
[2008-04-26 16:13:12] <Rowan> thats why
[2008-04-26 16:13:19] <AtionSong> Ah!
[2008-04-26 16:13:24] <Rowan> nice varin
[2008-04-26 16:13:26] <AtionSong> stupid inability to read...
[2008-04-26 16:13:34] <Phil> is it wrong that i can understand that new chunk of text without thinking?
[2008-04-26 16:13:38] <varin> my brain corrected the mispell without me knowing it :D
[2008-04-26 16:13:40] <Phil> stupid leetspeak
[2008-04-26 16:14:11] <Phil> what was the "catalyst" for the puzzle as a whole?
[2008-04-26 16:14:12] <Cortana> leetspeak makes my brain go ouchie
[2008-04-26 16:14:36] <Rowan> i wonder if this might go with the right 3
[2008-04-26 16:14:44] <Rowan> and isntead of red letters, capital letters
[2008-04-26 16:14:55] <Rowan> </thinking out loud>
[2008-04-26 16:15:14] <Phil> maybe
[2008-04-26 16:15:49] <Phil> ...it occurs to me that the entire back of the image we are working to reveal is a bloody Cluedo board
[2008-04-26 16:15:56] <Phil> why didnt i notice that before?
[2008-04-26 16:19:19] <Rowan> this is what you get if you remove the lowercase letters
[2008-04-26 16:19:20] <Rowan> P O 0 03P3 9 C OR  22 N. C0 0 4 A 0 7 N   D4Y  6? S0O 0 1  8  7 D 5, A6. R, 0 0 E 3   6E  6   L2  1. N0 0 54   A,   C 2   H 15 O  S. S0 0 3 CR E7E 0 N  1  7? A , 0  IS 2   9 L E5,  22 8? 'T  0  0 3' I  , 8 C  7K   8E7  T ?
[2008-04-26 16:20:02] <enaxor> wow you guys are amazing
[2008-04-26 16:20:06] <Rogi> POPCORN CANDY
[2008-04-26 16:20:10] <Rogi> etc.
[2008-04-26 16:20:25] <Rogi> SODA
[2008-04-26 16:20:41] <Rogi> REEL NACHOS
[2008-04-26 16:20:53] <Phil> snacks?
[2008-04-26 16:20:59] <Rogi> Movies
[2008-04-26 16:21:01] <Rogi> ?
[2008-04-26 16:21:29] <Phil> nope, how odd
[2008-04-26 16:21:42] <Rowan> POPCORN CANDY SODA REEL NACHOS SCREEN AISLE TICKET
[2008-04-26 16:21:42] <Phil> not Cinema either
[2008-04-26 16:21:49] <Cortana> what are the numbers?
[2008-04-26 16:21:53] <Rowan> one second
[2008-04-26 16:22:03] <Rogi> brb
[2008-04-26 16:22:27] <Phil> definately show related
[2008-04-26 16:23:15] <Rowan> 0 033 9220 0 40 746 0 0 1875 60 03 66 21 0 0 54 2150 0 37 0 17 0 2 9522 8 00 38 7 87  (the spaces are kinda arbitary)
[2008-04-26 16:30:32] <varin> I've got to pick up some dinner... bbiab
[2008-04-26 16:33:24] <Rogi> So: 0 oee ezzo o a0 tab o o ibts bo 0e bb zi o o sa siso o et o it o s aszz b oo eb t bt
[2008-04-26 16:33:46] <Rogi> er: o oee ezzo o ao tab o o ibts bo oe bb zi o o sa siso o et o it o s aszz b oo eb t bt
[2008-04-26 16:36:32] <Rowan> ooh eee ooh ahh ahh ting tang walla walla bing bang
[2008-04-26 16:36:43] <Rowan> sorry :)
[2008-04-26 16:36:44] <APB> lol
[2008-04-26 16:36:51] <enaxor> lol
[2008-04-26 16:36:57] <Rogi> I actually started to check that.
[2008-04-26 16:37:35] <Rowan> come on boys and girls. 3 main puzzles left
[2008-04-26 16:37:40] <enaxor> 4 items are food 
[2008-04-26 16:37:46] <Rogi> Imo guess it's a 26 character substitution with doubled numbers.
[2008-04-26 16:38:03] <Rogi> er, 23 characters.
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[2008-04-26 16:39:11] <Rogi> Gah! 28.  I'm really off, today.
[2008-04-26 16:42:16] <Rowan> btw - it's not 'what are things in a movie theater'
[2008-04-26 16:44:28] <Rogi> If taking the numbers in pairs:
[2008-04-26 16:44:58] <Rogi> 00 33 92 20 04 07 46 00 18 75 60 03 66 21 00 54 21 50 03 70 17 02 95 22 80 03 87 87
[2008-04-26 16:45:07] <Rogi> And assigning letters, in order:
[2008-04-26 16:45:19] <Rogi> It looks like:
[2008-04-26 16:45:21] <Rogi> A  K  U  H  D  E  L  A  G  R  O  C  P  I  A  N  I  M  C  Q  F  B  V  J  S  C  T  T
[2008-04-26 16:51:56] <Rowan> i need another hint
[2008-04-26 16:54:37] <Rowan> 'To be or not to be' is a question, but can you think of the best answer to it?  <-- maybe we have to figure out the answer to that question?
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[2008-04-26 16:56:00] <enaxor> I tried b movie and bee movie earlier
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[2008-04-26 17:05:01] <APB> Right 3 : Try converting from one to the other before you asc
[2008-04-26 17:05:06] <enaxor> new hint for right puzzle 5:00pm - Right 3 : Try converting from one to the other before you asc 
[2008-04-26 17:05:22] <Rogi> ASCII?
[2008-04-26 17:05:39] <APB> another misspell of "ask" i think
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[2008-04-26 17:08:58] <varin> you guys haven't solved them all yet?  ;)
[2008-04-26 17:09:13] <Rogi> 3 to go and the meta.
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[2008-04-26 17:09:48] <AtionSong> Right 3 : Try converting from one to the other before you asc
[2008-04-26 17:09:56] <rosmar> ascii makes sense
[2008-04-26 17:09:56] <ex> gah I couldn't remeber the room name
[2008-04-26 17:10:56] <rosmar> although im not sure how you actually work it
[2008-04-26 17:18:22] <rosmar> this is a strifey puzzle
[2008-04-26 17:22:50] <Rogi> ASCII proper doesn't seem to work out.
[2008-04-26 17:23:14] <Rogi> Doing pairs and using the element numbers almost gives something:
[2008-04-26 17:23:15] <Rogi> 05 53 10 04 13 71
[2008-04-26 17:23:15] <Rogi> B  I  Ne Be Al Lu
[2008-04-26 17:24:24] <rosmar> of course, it might also depend on how you read it
[2008-04-26 17:24:35] <rosmar> you can split the letters and numbers
[2008-04-26 17:24:41] <rosmar> or you can read them the way they appear in the text
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[2008-04-26 17:25:11] <Rogi> You mean like just doing 1337 conversion: osseiooaieti
[2008-04-26 17:25:16] <Rogi> ?
[2008-04-26 17:26:20] <Rowan> no not even that
[2008-04-26 17:26:34] <Rowan> i mean, you have the red letters cpvatdtuvtrc
[2008-04-26 17:26:40] <Rowan> the numbers 055310041371
[2008-04-26 17:26:44] <Rowan> you can look at they separately like that
[2008-04-26 17:27:04] <APB> or c0p55vat31d004tu1v37t1rc?
[2008-04-26 17:27:13] <Rowan> or, if you go through the text, its more like c0p55vat31d004tu1v37t1rc
[2008-04-26 17:32:10] <Rowan> sadly tho - i am really betting that strifey could see the missing piece of this in like 2 seconds
[2008-04-26 17:37:22] <Rowan> i'll hang out for one more clue - then i think i'll go get dinner
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[2008-04-26 17:52:24] <murph89> eh sorry to barge in but i googled and found a thread saying people were going here to work on the puzzlecrunch
[2008-04-26 17:52:40] <Cortana> yep
[2008-04-26 17:52:53] <Cortana> we're kinda stumped on puzzles center 3 and right 3 right now
[2008-04-26 17:53:18] <murph89> ive been working with another group so if you don't want us getting hints i dont mind being asked to leave
[2008-04-26 17:53:20] <Rogi> Center 4
[2008-04-26 17:53:28] <murph89> but we're stuck on 2,2,3
[2008-04-26 17:53:32] <murph89> :(
[2008-04-26 17:53:49] <Cortana>  oops, sorry Rogi
[2008-04-26 17:54:19] <Rowan> we're fairly open
[2008-04-26 17:54:25] <Rowan> just as long as you share as well
[2008-04-26 17:54:38] <murph89> yeah ill be sure to share any insights
[2008-04-26 17:54:57] <Rowan> our answers are in the url in the topic
[2008-04-26 17:55:19] <Rowan> i can explain most of them :)
[2008-04-26 17:57:14] <Rowan> i've become frustrated
[2008-04-26 17:57:19] <Rowan> and i do not work will frustrated
[2008-04-26 17:57:53] <Rowan> and now its raining
[2008-04-26 17:58:17] <APB> same here
[2008-04-26 17:58:58] <Rowan> oops - that was supposed to be well not will
[2008-04-26 17:59:00] <Rowan> i also cant type
[2008-04-26 17:59:44] <Rowan> yay new clues
[2008-04-26 17:59:47] <Rowan> and we're behind
[2008-04-26 17:59:57] <Rowan> # 6:00pm - Right 3 : Up the river with just one oar (an exclusive oar)
[2008-04-26 17:59:57] <Rowan> # 6:00pm - Left 4 : It 'tens' to be the case that the number of objects matters
[2008-04-26 17:59:57] <Rowan> # 6:00pm - Meta : Curie, Galileo, Newton, Nobel, Oppenheimer, Turing
[2008-04-26 17:59:57] <Rowan> # 6:00pm - Meta : Bombe, Dynamite, Gravity, Nuclear Bomb, Radium, Telescope
[2008-04-26 17:59:57] <Rowan> # 6:00pm - Meta : Bar, Basement, Bathroom, Car Hold, Laboratory, The Matrix
[2008-04-26 18:00:07] <Rowan> i dont even get that
[2008-04-26 18:00:14] <varin> ok, so someone's already working on the meta
[2008-04-26 18:00:23] <Phil> science for the meta
[2008-04-26 18:00:55] <Rowan> oh - its already been solved :)
[2008-04-26 18:00:56] <Phil> i see, each bit of meta matches to a scientist
[2008-04-26 18:00:59] <Rowan>    1.  5:47pm, Team Geekspotting (Vicki Bitters, Dave Carlisle, Bert Johnson, Toni Johnson, Peter Schlicting)
[2008-04-26 18:01:01] <varin> exclusive oar = exclusive OR?
[2008-04-26 18:01:34] <Rogi> I'm sure that's what they mean, but I have no clue how to implement it.
[2008-04-26 18:01:50] <varin> do we take a letter from one or the other?
[2008-04-26 18:02:01] <varin> Like a pendulum swinging between the two
[2008-04-26 18:06:34] <AtionSong> OPSAIDTAVERI
[2008-04-26 18:06:37] <AtionSong> ?
[2008-04-26 18:06:40] <Rowan> i dunno. i need strifey for this type of puzzle
[2008-04-26 18:07:36] <AtionSong> 6:10pm - Right 4 : You show more character by attaining new heights :(
[2008-04-26 18:10:12] <Rowan> haha i got a clue for center 4
[2008-04-26 18:10:13] <Rowan> If you have the popcorn string, try using the method you used to split up those terms to similarly split up another set of different characters...
[2008-04-26 18:11:27] <AtionSong> wait, do you have the answer?
[2008-04-26 18:11:58] <Rowan> no - we have just part of it
[2008-04-26 18:12:13] <Rowan> the popocrn aisle reel string..
[2008-04-26 18:13:28] <AtionSong> 0033922
[2008-04-26 18:13:28] <AtionSong> 0040746
[2008-04-26 18:13:28] <AtionSong> 0018756
[2008-04-26 18:13:28] <AtionSong> 0036621
[2008-04-26 18:13:28] <AtionSong> 0054215
[2008-04-26 18:13:28] <AtionSong> 0037017
[2008-04-26 18:13:28] <AtionSong> 0295228
[2008-04-26 18:13:28] <AtionSong> 0038787
[2008-04-26 18:13:28] <AtionSong> 
[2008-04-26 18:16:13] <varin> bleh
[2008-04-26 18:16:27] <ex> they are imdb I think
[2008-04-26 18:16:46] <ex> 0033922 is mr and mrs smith
[2008-04-26 18:17:09] <Rowan> nice
[2008-04-26 18:17:42] <varin> hitchcock movies?
[2008-04-26 18:17:59] <ex> the second one is rope
[2008-04-26 18:18:14] <varin> 3rd is champaign
[2008-04-26 18:18:35] <varin> 5th is psycho
[2008-04-26 18:19:04] <ex> Aventure malgache (1944) fourth
[2008-04-26 18:19:22] <varin> 6th Lifeboat
[2008-04-26 18:19:29] <Rogi> Elastic Affair
[2008-04-26 18:19:33] <Rogi> Notorious
[2008-04-26 18:19:44] <Rogi> (Last 2)
[2008-04-26 18:20:05] <ex> mr capeplen
[2008-04-26 18:21:08] <Rowan> is that the answer ex?
[2008-04-26 18:21:12] <ex> no
[2008-04-26 18:21:45] <Rowan> okay, so we have: mr & mrs smith / rope / champaign / aventure malgache / psycho / lifeboat / elastic affair / notorious
[2008-04-26 18:21:49] <ex> damn I lost the page
[2008-04-26 18:22:05] <ex> try charlie
[2008-04-26 18:22:16] <Rowan> nope
[2008-04-26 18:22:59] <Rogi> Hans?
[2008-04-26 18:23:19] <Rogi> Nope
[2008-04-26 18:23:44] <AtionSong> tried Sir Alfred Hitchcock, not it...
[2008-04-26 18:24:01] <APB> and a joseph in there too doesn't work
[2008-04-26 18:24:09] <APB> his middle name*
[2008-04-26 18:24:26] <Rowan> first letters spell out: mr caplen
[2008-04-26 18:24:28] <Rowan> but thats not it
[2008-04-26 18:24:53] <AtionSong> did Hitchcock do any films about movies?
[2008-04-26 18:25:25] <Rowan> oh - another hint for R3
[2008-04-26 18:25:33] <Rowan> I'm trying to understand what you're saying, so apologies if I have it wrong. Are you having trouble finding some way to implement the XOR operation itsefl, or set up the parameters that will be used in the XOR?
[2008-04-26 18:25:37] <Rowan> If the former, there are likely plenty of applets to help with this, in the case of the latter, you might want to try converting both the letters and the numbers into one similar format (see the 'asc' clue).
[2008-04-26 18:29:20] <varin> ok, i have no idea what that means
[2008-04-26 18:29:53] <Rowan> i think we have to convert the letters and numbers into ascii
[2008-04-26 18:30:01] <Rowan> and then do something with XOR
[2008-04-26 18:30:29] <varin> i hate puzzles that have random steps
[2008-04-26 18:31:46] <ex> its' mr caplan
[2008-04-26 18:32:18] <ex> the answer for center
[2008-04-26 18:32:35] <varin> yay ex!
[2008-04-26 18:32:54] <Rowan> i hate when they randomly take second word letters
[2008-04-26 18:33:02] <ex> me too
[2008-04-26 18:33:15] <AtionSong> yeah
[2008-04-26 18:33:42] <ex> thanks to ationsong listing the numbers like that
[2008-04-26 18:34:13] <AtionSong> it was actually just based on Rowan's idea
[2008-04-26 18:34:29] <ex> and thanks to rowan too
[2008-04-26 18:35:13] <Rowan> okay new clue for R3
[2008-04-26 18:35:18] <Rowan> So we've seen people today try to implement the XOR in a variety of ways: XOR'ing each letter (in ascii) with each number (in decimal), XOR'ing each letter (in ascii) with the letter of the alphabet corresponding to each number, etc.
[2008-04-26 18:35:28] <Rowan> The key is to make sure that both parameters to the XOR are in the same format (like the latter example, unlike the former). However, think about what would be the easiest method of solving this problem if you had to do it writing a computer program;
[2008-04-26 18:35:32] <Rowan> were this the case, converting numbers to their letters in the alphabet would be a pretty ugly solution. In this case, simpler is better :) Hope that helps
[2008-04-26 18:37:41] <Rowan> i woudl say, convert letters to ascii
[2008-04-26 18:37:45] <Rowan> convert numbers to ascii
[2008-04-26 18:37:48] <Rowan> then XOR
[2008-04-26 18:38:33] <Rowan> i dunno. this is a strifey or a j5 puzzle
[2008-04-26 18:41:15] <ex> I don't understand XOR 
[2008-04-26 18:41:22] <Rowan> neither do i
[2008-04-26 18:41:52] <Phil> XOR is a logical function that you normally use with binary
[2008-04-26 18:42:13] <Phil> also in circuits but those are rubbish anyway
[2008-04-26 18:42:31] =-= Rowan has changed the topic to ``Working: www.puzzlecrunch.org/ewill/ | Answers: www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/answers.html | Clues to the Pit puzzle: http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/pit.html''
[2008-04-26 18:43:02] <Rowan> it comes up in puzzles every now and then, but i never really understand the solves
[2008-04-26 18:43:12] <Phil> an XOR states that if the calculation is 0 and 1 then the answer is 1
[2008-04-26 18:43:19] <Phil> if the calc is 1 and 1 it's 1
[2008-04-26 18:43:29] <Phil> if it's 0 and 0 it's zero
[2008-04-26 18:43:30] <Rowan> and if its 0 & 0 its 0
[2008-04-26 18:43:34] <Rowan> i get that part
[2008-04-26 18:43:42] <Phil> sorry, 1 and 1 is zero
[2008-04-26 18:43:54] <Phil> if the two dont match, it's true, if they do match, it's false
[2008-04-26 18:44:59] <Phil> and if you think XOR is bad, you havent seen anything
[2008-04-26 18:45:13] <AtionSong> Quote from The Big Enchilada: I think the converting to ASCII and XOR'ing is a great idea :)
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[2008-04-26 18:45:27] <natas> ok
[2008-04-26 18:45:37] <AtionSong> Oh, also we're allowed multiple final guesses for the meta answer, they say
[2008-04-26 18:45:39] <natas> how can i help.
[2008-04-26 18:45:48] <natas> i had to go to a birthday party
[2008-04-26 18:46:06] <Phil> i'll convert/XOR it if you like
[2008-04-26 18:46:24] <Phil> been a while though
[2008-04-26 18:48:24] <Rowan> so we're supposed to convert it like this (see the bottom) http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/pit.html
[2008-04-26 18:48:26] <Rowan> ?
[2008-04-26 18:49:02] <Phil> something like that
[2008-04-26 18:49:37] <Phil> though i suspect there's a step before that (clue 2)
[2008-04-26 18:50:58] <Phil> what the step is, i dont know
[2008-04-26 18:51:53] <Rowan> okay - numbers to letters to ascii step: http://www.wonderweasels.org/puzzles/pit.html
[2008-04-26 18:52:54] <AtionSong> I've figured out the "who" to the meta puzzle
[2008-04-26 18:53:03] <Phil> problem i'm having is: what set of data do i use for the boolean true?
[2008-04-26 18:53:13] <varin> who?
[2008-04-26 18:53:28] <ex> yes, who?
[2008-04-26 18:53:29] <Phil> if i dont have a true side, i cant do a XOR
[2008-04-26 18:53:37] <AtionSong> It's Turing
[2008-04-26 18:53:38] <Rowan> you want me to ask?
[2008-04-26 18:54:07] <ex> great ation
[2008-04-26 18:54:17] <AtionSong> I wonder if murph89 heard that...
[2008-04-26 18:54:41] <Phil> Turing? bah
[2008-04-26 18:55:31] <murph89> eh i dont think i can do anything, i just seeing how figure out these things
[2008-04-26 18:55:34] <ex> so can you XOR the ascii letter string against the ascii number string?
[2008-04-26 18:56:05] <Phil> i dont think that would work, you normally XOR with two identical types of data
[2008-04-26 18:56:18] <Phil> sorry, data structure
[2008-04-26 18:56:32] <ex> than after converting the numbers to letters?
[2008-04-26 18:56:56] <Phil> see, i was thinking that until i couldnt find a letter for the number 0
[2008-04-26 18:57:02] <Rowan> o
[2008-04-26 18:57:04] <ex> 099 112 118 097 116 100 116 117 118 116 114 099 against 111 115 115 101 105 111 111 097 105 101 116 105
[2008-04-26 18:57:33] <Rowan> i think you have to convert from l337
[2008-04-26 18:58:49] <Phil> from the combined number/letter string?
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[2008-04-26 18:59:54] <Rowan> i dont think the combined string is anything. i just put it in my notes in case
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[2008-04-26 19:06:25] <AtionSong> ah well, looks like we haven't placed top 3
[2008-04-26 19:07:25] <Rowan> ahh well
[2008-04-26 19:08:04] <Rowan> i didnt really expect us to anyway :)
[2008-04-26 19:08:18] <varin> we were doing good until those last couple
[2008-04-26 19:10:03] <Omega> we's racin'? oh man! *hurries*
[2008-04-26 19:10:07] <varin> now that I'm looking at the meta puzzle, I'm guessing we can solve it without those last pieces.  Or at least narrow it down to a couple of guesses
[2008-04-26 19:10:33] <Rowan> not any more omega :)
[2008-04-26 19:10:41] <Rowan> the top 3 got prizes ;)
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