You have disconnected (6:48:02 PM) You have connected (8:22:37 PM) You have disconnected (10:29:15 PM) You have connected (10:35:36 PM) You have disconnected (11:39:12 PM) You have connected (11:39:30 PM) Ore [~Ore@ip72-197-215-139.sd.sd.cox.net] entered the room. (12:06:25 AM) Ore left the room. (12:06:41 AM) Green [~Green@221.186.207.80] entered the room. (12:12:07 AM) Green left the room. (12:12:28 AM) Green [~Green@221.186.207.80] entered the room. (12:12:38 AM) Ore [~Ore@ip72-197-215-139.sd.sd.cox.net] entered the room. (12:12:42 AM) 12:12:45 AM Blue: ok 12:12:47 AM Blue: here we go 12:12:49 AM Green: Hello Ore 12:13:14 AM Ore: i understand the translation has gone stagnant 12:13:20 AM Blue: yes Fora [~IceChat77@host-78-144-243-107.as13285.net] entered the room. (12:13:26 AM) 12:13:42 AM Fora: I'm in 12:13:54 AM Blue: first, ore 12:13:56 AM Blue: is will ok? 12:14:06 AM Ore: it is complicated 12:14:10 AM Blue: omg 12:14:24 AM Blue: are you with him? 12:14:27 AM Fora: We sent him there, if he is hurt .... 12:14:43 AM Ore: no, it is good he went there 12:14:55 AM Ore: now he knows what they can do 12:15:03 AM Ore: well, will know when he wakes up 12:15:10 AM Blue: s**t 12:15:21 AM Fora: What did you do to him? 12:15:22 AM Blue: weren't you there? 12:15:38 AM Ore: i did nothing, it was them 12:15:43 AM Ore: they met there, not me 12:15:49 AM Fora: Oh 12:15:51 AM Blue: ah ok 12:15:56 AM Blue: is his life at risk? 12:16:01 AM Green: Who in the church wears a blue cloak? 12:16:13 AM Ore: who in the church is blue? 12:16:17 AM Fora: Life 12:16:19 AM Ore: yes 12:16:19 AM Fora: Or the fourth 12:16:28 AM Ore: it was Life 12:16:52 AM Blue: ok 12:16:56 AM Fora: Were they all there? 12:17:02 AM Ore: no, only life 12:17:11 AM Fora: by himself? 12:17:15 AM Ore: herself 12:17:19 AM Blue: hmm Kora [~jain_hall@ip72-204-75-226.fv.ks.cox.net] entered the room. (12:17:21 AM) 12:17:32 AM Ore: it is a trial 12:17:42 AM Ore: the Fourth has given a prophecy 12:17:43 AM Fora: Saving Will? 12:18:01 AM Ore: he will meet each of the three Pillars, and they will bring him to his knees 12:18:10 AM Blue: the prophecy i will receive when i finally learn the phrase 12:18:18 AM Blue: ? 12:18:29 AM Fora: Is Will Special then? 12:18:39 AM Ore: he is 12:18:44 AM Fora: Have the church know about him for some time? 12:18:44 AM Ore: but he doesn't know it 12:18:49 AM Ore: they have 12:18:53 AM Ore: we have 12:18:56 AM Blue: what about Mora? 12:18:59 AM Blue: or Lizzie? 12:19:05 AM Fora: I assume that you put that new leaflet in the house 12:19:12 AM Fora: He said he thought it was a lot older 12:19:43 AM Ore: Mora is one of them too 12:19:47 AM Ore: one of the special ones 12:19:56 AM Blue: are you WITH the church or against them? 12:20:16 AM Green: It could be both, Blue.. 12:20:38 AM Blue: yeh. i guess it may be time for me to message the Fourth 12:20:45 AM Blue: but i still need Give and Free 12:21:33 AM Ore: give 12:21:44 AM Ore: the infinitive 12:21:46 AM Ore: is "nor" 12:21:52 AM Blue: nor, ok 12:22:36 AM Blue: is noromku a conjugated form? 12:22:51 AM Blue: oh, sorry 12:22:56 AM Blue: no- is future 12:23:05 AM Blue: i meant NORDI 12:23:29 AM Ore: correct 12:23:36 AM Ore: well 12:23:38 AM Blue: nordi = give? 12:23:47 AM Ore: conjugated for it/he/she 12:24:00 AM Fora: She/he/it gives 12:24:07 AM Blue: how do we conjugate for we? 12:24:28 AM Blue: just nor? 12:24:35 AM Ore: the conjugations for plural pronouns are the singular, +n 12:24:43 AM Ore: norin 12:24:50 AM Blue: nordiN? 12:24:52 AM Ore: the conjugation for i is nori 12:24:57 AM Blue: ah ok 12:25:03 AM Blue: paj nori 12:25:07 AM Fora: Are there several sets of conjugations? 12:25:17 AM Ore: singular and plural 12:25:18 AM Fora: Are are all verbs the same? 12:25:29 AM Blue: paj nori paji paaraet FREE 12:25:35 AM Ore: if you mean they all conjugate the same, yes 12:25:40 AM Fora: Ok 12:26:01 AM Ore: conjugations will be useful eventually Red [~vassago@c-76-125-33-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entered the room. (12:26:04 AM) 12:26:15 AM Ore: i = aj, verb -i 12:26:19 AM Blue: just to recall the conjugations 12:26:29 AM Ore: you = haj, verb -mi 12:26:58 AM Ore: it/he/she = oj/tusaj/tasaj, verb -di 12:27:09 AM Blue: wow 12:27:12 AM Blue: ok Romnetora [~Adium@c-76-125-33-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entered the room. (12:27:21 AM) 12:27:28 AM Ore: the plural ones are not necessarily important 12:27:51 AM Fora: ok 12:28:02 AM Blue: somehow they are 12:28:07 AM Blue: the song is all about we 12:29:18 AM Blue: do we have phaj as in the plural of haj? 12:29:51 AM Ore: rephrase your question 12:30:26 AM Blue: we have aj Green left the room (quit: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~). (12:30:36 AM) 12:30:38 AM Blue: oj, tusaj, tasaj 12:30:49 AM Blue: all singular 12:30:56 AM Ore: and haj 12:31:13 AM Blue: haj = you singular 12:31:18 AM Blue: phaj = you plural 12:31:22 AM Ore: correct 12:31:25 AM Blue: ok 12:31:30 AM Fora: ok 12:32:12 AM Fora: Do we have enough Blue? 12:32:13 AM Blue: what else do i need to learn to message the fourth? 12:32:27 AM Ore: i believe you need free 12:32:27 AM Blue: i still need Free, to finish the first phrase 12:32:30 AM Blue: yeh 12:33:01 AM Ore: what is open? 12:33:11 AM Blue: jodu 12:33:36 AM Ore: free is "holy open", pajodu 12:33:43 AM Blue: pajodu 12:33:46 AM Blue: noted 12:33:51 AM Blue: give me just a sec 12:33:55 AM Ore: the holy suffix is -ti 12:34:09 AM Fora: pa- also means holy? 12:34:16 AM Ore: correct 12:34:28 AM Blue: so here we go: 12:35:12 AM Blue: Dumio ek akimara | Paj nori paji paaraet pajodu! 12:35:20 AM Blue: this should start my convo with the Fourth 12:35:59 AM Blue: is that right, ore? 12:36:07 AM Ore: it is 12:36:11 AM Blue: but before i go down that way, i have a question 12:36:25 AM Blue: whose Paromnetiara are we translating? 12:36:35 AM Blue: Mora's? 12:36:50 AM Blue: because it's the forest story, and she was in the green group 12:37:27 AM Ore: the land does not reflect the group they are in 12:37:37 AM Blue: so whose is it? 12:37:38 AM Ore: however, you are correct 12:37:42 AM Blue: ah, ok 12:37:50 AM Blue: can i ask more questions? 12:38:09 AM Ore: i may not answer them 12:38:20 AM Blue: hmm 12:38:28 AM Ore: you may ask 12:38:29 AM Blue: i don't understand opaarin 12:38:42 AM Blue: lack of/no + person 12:38:46 AM Blue: and it's an adjective 12:39:22 AM Ore: lack of person(s) 12:39:36 AM Ore: as in, around you 12:39:42 AM Blue: alone? 12:39:44 AM Ore: yes 12:39:56 AM Blue: phew 12:40:00 AM Blue: also 12:40:10 AM Blue: aramoret = followers? 12:40:30 AM Blue: i thought maybe the people who follow the path 12:40:38 AM Blue: thus, followers 12:40:45 AM Ore: aramor = ara + mora 12:40:53 AM Blue: yes 12:40:55 AM Ore: "path stone" 12:41:10 AM Blue: road? 12:41:19 AM Ore: step or stair 12:41:29 AM Blue: ah ok, thanks 12:41:55 AM Blue: i still have one more question. do you guys want to ask your questions before i ask mine? 12:42:16 AM Fora: Nope 12:42:30 AM Blue: anyone else? 12:43:24 AM Blue: ok then 12:43:58 AM Blue: ore, as soon as i hit send here, you won't email me hidden messages. we don't have will anymore. how will we contact you? 12:44:43 AM Ore: He will return 12:44:54 AM Blue: when? 12:45:05 AM Ore: when he wakes up 12:45:09 AM Fora: Ore, is it important that Will doesn't learn that he is special? 12:45:24 AM Ore: he can never know 12:45:27 AM Fora: Ok 12:45:29 AM Ore: it would disrupt the prophecy 12:45:49 AM Blue: i'm guessing i'll receive my paromnetiara then? 12:45:50 AM Fora: Sow 12:45:54 AM Fora: 8So 12:45:58 AM Blue: when i message the Fourth? 12:46:07 AM Fora: You said there can only be 3 unfulfilled prophecies? 12:46:11 AM Ore: correct 12:46:15 AM Fora: Is yours one? 12:46:19 AM Fora: The one about Will another? 12:46:30 AM Fora: And the one Blue will recieve the last one? 12:46:36 AM Ore: Will does not have a full Paromnetiara 12:46:39 AM Blue: fora 12:46:44 AM Blue: this one we're translating is Mora's 12:46:53 AM Blue: green 12:47:03 AM Blue: joy 12:47:09 AM Fora: AHh I see 12:47:11 AM Fora: Of course 12:47:11 AM Blue: will received his, blue, life 12:47:25 AM Blue: i guess mine will be red, joy 12:47:31 AM Blue: (green is purity, my bad) 12:47:31 AM Ore: Will does not have one 12:47:41 AM Fora: Is yours Red, joy Ore 12:47:42 AM Fora: ? 12:47:53 AM Ore: his is a prophecy etched in stone from the dawn 12:48:02 AM Blue: then mine will be blue 12:48:13 AM Blue: so a prophecy is not a fate/paromnetiara? 12:48:20 AM Ore: no 12:48:32 AM Ore: Mora's is the Death Paromnetiara 12:48:33 AM Blue: is yours red, ore? 12:48:33 AM Fora: fate/paromnetiara? 12:48:33 AM Fora: [04:47] no 12:48:43 AM Fora: Madness? 12:48:58 AM Blue: i'm confused, ore 12:49:11 AM Ore: tell me how 12:49:19 AM Blue: if hers was the forest, green, purity, how could it be death? 12:49:31 AM Blue: isn't death the blue one? 12:49:49 AM Ore: the Fourth gives his Paromnetiara however he sees fit 12:49:50 AM Blue: or Life? 12:49:55 AM Blue: ahhhhh 12:49:59 AM Ore: the position in the Church does not matter 12:50:02 AM Blue: so i don't know what mine will be 12:50:15 AM Blue: i'll message them 12:50:25 AM Ore: know that Mora's will come to pass 12:50:26 AM Ore: soon 12:50:26 AM Blue: but we need to know what to do next 12:50:45 AM Blue: so hers is not fulfilled? she is alive? 12:50:59 AM Ore: yes 12:51:11 AM Ore: but her fate is drawing closer to the end 12:51:20 AM Blue: hmm 12:51:31 AM Blue: there's still another fate, right? 12:51:34 AM Blue: is it yours? 12:51:38 AM Blue: you said three 12:51:51 AM Ore: mine, hers, and yours will be the three Paromnetiaraet 12:51:56 AM Blue: ok 12:52:03 AM Ore: after Mora's is fulfilled 12:52:16 AM Blue: was yours fulfilled? 12:52:23 AM Ore: i should hope not 12:52:28 AM Ore: it ends with my death 12:52:30 AM Blue: hers cannot be either 12:52:32 AM Fora: Oh 12:52:38 AM Blue: she can't die 12:52:40 AM Fora: Is that what you are running from? 12:52:54 AM Ore: it is a reason for the secrecy 12:53:03 AM Blue: hmm 12:53:12 AM Blue: so the fates cannot be fulfilled 12:53:18 AM Ore: they will 12:53:24 AM Ore: there is no avoiding them 12:53:26 AM Blue: you can't die 12:53:28 AM Ore: but you can draw them out 12:53:30 AM Fora: When there are three, will they then be fulfilled 12:53:32 AM Fora: ? 12:53:43 AM Blue: how so, ore? 12:53:58 AM Ore: they will be fulfilled as they will be, they don't need to be fulfilled all at once 12:54:06 AM Blue: right 12:54:13 AM Blue: now 12:54:33 AM Blue: i'll get mine too 12:54:37 AM Blue: what do we do next? 12:55:00 AM Ore: yours will be relatively easy to translate 12:55:10 AM Blue: and why are the three new followers not in our group? 12:55:24 AM Blue: why has the church separated us? 12:55:41 AM Ore: the generations have nine in them 12:55:46 AM Blue: yes 12:56:02 AM Fora: But the second group of the second was not introduced to us 12:56:07 AM Fora: Unlike the first group 12:56:10 AM Ore: the Church uses them to keep followers manageable 12:56:39 AM Blue: but the first three in the second generation were introduced to us 12:56:44 AM Blue: making us 12 12:56:51 AM Ore: yes 12:57:03 AM Blue: so? 12:57:15 AM Ore: the second of the Second will be introduced with the third 12:57:15 AM Blue: shouldnt we be just 12? 12:57:21 AM Blue: ah ok 12:57:27 AM Blue: we'll eventually get to know them 12:57:34 AM Ore: indeed 12:57:37 AM Blue: are there more Chosen? 12:57:40 AM Ore: no 12:57:44 AM Blue: hmm 12:58:01 AM Blue: and no more paromnetiaraet in the near future as well 12:58:15 AM Ore: Mora's will come to pass soon 12:58:27 AM Fora: Not if we have something to say about it 12:58:32 AM Blue: so one more fate slot will be pen 12:58:35 AM Blue: *open 12:59:05 AM Ore: as soon as hers is complete 12:59:20 AM Ore: the Fourth Fate will come 12:59:20 AM Blue: but if hers is death, when it completes will she die? 12:59:49 AM Ore: each fate has elements of all three pillars 12:59:56 AM Ore: hers is focused in death 1:00:08 AM Ore: mine features death, but is not centered in it 1:00:20 AM Blue: hmm so will she die or not? 1:00:25 AM Fora: So they all end in death? 1:00:33 AM Ore: they don't have to 1:00:43 AM Blue: how do we avoid death? 1:00:53 AM Blue: and the other two for that matter 1:00:57 AM Ore: you cannot, you can only draw it out 1:01:14 AM Ore: but 1:01:20 AM Ore: you are distracting me again from my message 1:01:31 AM Fora: Which is? 1:01:35 AM Ore: Will will obtain his Fate 1:01:41 AM Ore: It will be the Fourth Fate 1:01:54 AM Fora: When he meets all three pillars? 1:02:01 AM Blue: that when mora's is complete? 1:02:11 AM Ore: He will be met first by Death, 1:02:15 AM Ore: Second by Madness, 1:02:20 AM Ore: Third by Corruption 1:02:23 AM Fora: All in the same place? 1:02:32 AM Ore: Then the Fourth will descend upon him, 1:02:48 AM Blue: hmm 1:02:57 AM Blue: what is the fourth? 1:03:03 AM Blue: the Crystalline Lord? 1:03:12 AM Ore: And He will deliver his soul 1:03:23 AM Ore: Into the world beyond 1:03:29 AM Fora: So that ends badly for Will? 1:03:36 AM Ore: thus ends the prophecy 1:04:00 AM Ore: the spectrum assumes the world beyond is death 1:04:20 AM Fora: Why do the church preach life.joy.purity 1:04:32 AM Fora: And why do you say death.madness.corruption? 1:04:51 AM Ore: they preach joy, purity, and life to gain followers 1:05:02 AM Blue: but the truth is the opposite 1:05:06 AM Blue: like a mirror 1:05:25 AM Ore: they keep the facade up to all except for the select few that are near to the Glass Beast 1:05:34 AM Fora: Like you? 1:05:39 AM Ore: like me 1:05:46 AM Fora: And surely you are the fifth pillar? 1:05:54 AM Fora: As white are you not greater than the fourth? 1:06:11 AM Ore: there was some question as to that 1:06:17 AM Ore: before my Paromnetiara was given 1:06:32 AM Ore: the Fourth sang it to me to prove he was the more powerful 1:06:52 AM Blue: but you are more powerful than him? 1:07:06 AM Ore: part of my Paromnetiara has come to pass already 1:07:13 AM Ore: thus, i am no longer 1:07:13 AM Blue: which part? 1:07:56 AM Ore: it was the first of the third verse 1:08:23 AM Blue: corruption? 1:09:25 AM Ore: yes, the first of the fulfilled was corruption 1:09:34 AM Ore: but i have spoken too much already 1:09:41 AM Blue: they've messaged me back 1:09:42 AM Fora: Corruption of your powers? 1:09:50 AM Blue: ore 1:09:57 AM Ore: Fora, yes 1:10:01 AM Blue: Ąɉ ƌăġëí ɉȯɳēőɉ ɧǟɉȋ ɳǡǵǎǐķ.  1:10:14 AM Fora: Is this why you fight the church now? 1:10:18 AM Blue: aj dagei joneoj haji nagaik 1:10:23 AM Fora: Because they made you fall? 1:10:44 AM Ore: i already knew they worked for ill before i received my Fate 1:11:00 AM Blue: what is dagei? 1:11:03 AM Fora: So what is your angle Ore? Do you want us to destroy the church? 1:11:06 AM Blue: and nagaik? 1:11:31 AM Ore: i had hoped by now enough would be given, but i suppose not 1:11:40 AM Ore: naga is the infinitive "to call" 1:11:46 AM Blue: ok 1:11:48 AM Blue: i call 1:12:35 AM Ore: dage is "have" 1:12:45 AM Blue: right 1:12:58 AM Blue: just a sec, ore, please 1:13:02 AM Blue: don't leave yet 1:13:56 AM Blue: i call seen makes no sense 1:14:38 AM Ore: joneoj is not conjugated for a pronoun 1:15:06 AM Ore: and nagaik is at the end 1:15:15 AM Blue: ah, sorry 1:15:20 AM Blue: i have seen your 1:16:06 AM Blue: i have seen your call 1:16:15 AM Ore: correct 1:16:22 AM Blue: now what 1:16:28 AM Blue: second verse? 1:17:03 AM Ore: and third and fourth 1:17:23 AM Blue: then we need your help again 1:17:26 AM Ore: then, after the Fourth's reply, the fifth 1:17:52 AM Blue: second, third and fourth all in the same message? 1:17:57 AM Ore: yes 1:18:04 AM Blue: we need more words then Fora left the room (quit: Quit: Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.). (1:18:15 AM) 1:18:45 AM Ore: i have spoken too much 1:18:52 AM Ore: Will will tell you Ore left the room. (1:19:01 AM) 1:19:02 AM Blue: well ok 1:19:06 AM Blue: lol