
Session Start: Tue Jun 28 00:00:00 2005
Session Ident: #heist
[00:00] <Diandra> if you ever get a chance to hang with her and/or her boyfriend/musician Jamie, do it
[00:00] <celina63> oh crap... I forgot Christian got badly cut by The Slasher last season
[00:01] <Diandra> You guys know that Julian McMahon's dad was, at one time, the prime minister of Australia?
[00:01] <celina63> oh really?
[00:01] <celina63> I didn't know that
[00:01] <Diandra> yes : )
[00:01] <celina63> you know who else was on my list for a LONG time... but now I just feel kinda weird about him?
[00:01] <celina63> Kevin Costner
[00:01] <Diandra> who?
[00:02] <Diandra> ahhh
[00:02] <catherwood> he has had some appealing roles
[00:02] <Diandra> never met him either
[00:02] <celina63> I mean, I love him... but he also makes me upset
[00:02] <Diandra> choosing crappy film roles?
[00:02] <celina63> no, not so much that
[00:02] <celina63> his love life choices
[00:03] <Diandra> ahhh
[00:03] <celina63> man has NO taste
[00:03] <celina63> and runs out on his wife and kids with some "Waterworld" bimbo
[00:03] <varin> I saw Costner.  He had a premiere in Sheboygan
[00:03] <celina63> but... "Field of Dreams" and "For Love Of The Game" tug at my heartstrings  :-)
[00:04] <celina63> premire for what movie?
[00:05] <varin> it came out a year or two ago... something to do with the Old West or soemthing
[00:06] <varin> I didn't even know he was going to be there and I was walking down the street with the stroller and here comes Costner on a stagecoach.
[00:06] <Diandra> hahhaha
[00:06] <celina63> oh, it wasn't The Postman, was it?
[00:06] <catherwood> Tombstone?
[00:06] <Diandra> that's a funny visual
[00:07] <celina63> i kinda liked that one too
[00:07] <celina63> even though it was Waterworld on Land
[00:07] * catherwood is too lazy to IMDB
[00:07] <xnbomb> lol
[00:07] <catherwood> i liked him in Tin Cup
[00:07] <celina63> oh yeah
[00:07] <varin> ah Open Range
[00:07] <celina63> ah
[00:07] <celina63> "Dad... wanna have a catch?"
[00:07] * celina63 goes drip drip
[00:07] <varin> they premiered in WI, because Herb Kohler was in it and he's some big WI politician or something
[00:08] <varin> or he's just rich 
[00:17] <catherwood> returning to the flash audios for a moment... "oh yeah, you're right, virgil, i'm behing the Uffizzi heist" is a new clip to me
[00:18] <catherwood> behind^ , that is, but whose voice is that?
[00:18] <xnbomb> we've heard it a lot of times ... it is Ian speaking to Virgil, and he is being sarcastic
[00:19] <xnbomb> some nutjob looped it seven times and voicemailed it to Nisha seven nights in a row
[00:19] <catherwood> thanks.  I haven't listened to every audio clip in the email directories, so these are new to me
[00:19] <xnbomb> no problem ... that one's a classic
[00:19] <catherwood> in fact, is every audio clip in the flash simply stuff you've all heard before, just processed?
[00:20] <xnbomb> i haven't heard any sound in there we haven't heard before
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[00:20] <xnbomb> and that goes for most of the source imagery too ... there is some new stuff, but a lot of old stuff
[00:20] <xnbomb> of course the 'annotation' gives it meaning and makes it interesting
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[00:21] <catherwood> this drives me nuts, i'm getting new images even now
[00:21] <xnbomb> i wonder just how many there are
[00:21] <xnbomb> is it possible to generate something like that on the fly?
[00:22] <xnbomb> they seem to have composition and meaning to them
[00:22] <xnbomb> at least in some cases ... maybe not all I suppose
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[00:28] <HitsHerMark> weeeeeee
[00:28] <HitsHerMark> hello?
[00:28] <xnbomb> hi
[00:29] <HitsHerMark> what did I miss?
[00:30] <xnbomb> um, some Kevin Costner talk, then it went quiet, then back to Heist minutiae
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[00:30] <xnbomb> o-kay
[00:30] <Diandra> heh heh
[00:30] <catherwood> technology
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[00:46] <janemcg> from the darkness the future passed
[00:48] <xnbomb> again? ;-)
[00:48] <catherwood> you're looking at the flash images?
[00:48] <catherwood> "the future" is nisha, has she passed from the darkness?
[00:49] <janemcg> w3hoops
[00:49] <janemcg> lol
[00:49] <janemcg> catherwood, lovely interpretation
[00:49] <janemcg> sorry, the flash stuff is reminding me of twin peaks
[00:49] <xnbomb> well, I suppose we'll see on Wednesday, when Virgil makes his big play for her
[00:50] <janemcg> from the darkness of future past
[00:50] <xnbomb> heh, I was comparing Virgil's inscrutability to David Lynch stuff the other day
[00:50] <janemcg> oh good. :)
[00:50] <janemcg> I feel less tangential then!
[00:51] <xnbomb> and the imagery is very apropos ... we have found hidden Virgil dirs called /the_future and /darkplace
[00:51] <janemcg> exactly
[00:51] <janemcg> the subject of this chat is so twin peaks. /heart death:future /darkplace hidden:secrets
[00:52] <catherwood> we'll be needing "perfect courage" soon
[00:52] <janemcg> okay I'm off to drink vodka and watch a dutch musical about a "retirement home" populated entirely by young people
[00:52] <catherwood> or that creamed corn stuff ;)
[00:52] <janemcg> omg perfect courage
[00:52] <janemcg> catherwood knows newsies AND perfect courage
[00:52] <catherwood> thank The Stone
[00:53] <catherwood> i'd say "enjoy" in Dutch, but i've misplaced my dictionary
[00:53] <janemcg> ja zuster! ne zuster! talk to you all in later daze, as I used to say when I was in 8th grade and a horrible misfit :)
[00:53] * celina63 tries perfect/courage on /console
[00:53] <celina63> lol
[00:53] <celina63> bye Jane!
[00:53] <celina63> I'll wave atcha Wednesday  :-)
[00:54] <janemcg> good luck! i'll be wtaching!
[00:54] <jamesi> hey jane, bye jane, good luck jane
[00:55] <janemcg> hey jamesi! ciao fo rnow
[00:56] <xnbomb> enjoy
[00:56] <xnbomb> see ya later
[01:00] <celina63> ok, bedtime
[01:00] <celina63> talk to you all alter
[01:00] <celina63> later too
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[01:10] <catherwood> i'm up to almost 60 images now
[01:10] <Rowan> i have 65 or so at work
[01:10] <catherwood> are they on your weaselsite?
[01:11] <Rowan> yes
[01:11] <Rowan> all but 4
[01:11] <catherwood> i want to thumbnail them too, for my index.  I should start that project now...
[01:11] <Rowan> i cheated and downloaded some software
[01:11] <catherwood> i still haven't captured the DJ one
[01:11] <Rowan> i have it at work
[01:11] <Rowan> it didnt update when i was leaving
[01:13] <Rowan> night
[01:13] <xnbomb> gnight
[01:18] <xnbomb> 3 files, 3 puzzles ... I feel like I know something about them, but can't solve any of them
[01:28] <xnbomb> prsnttntimes.txt looks like it picks letters from the 12 letter names in prsnttnmusic.txt, and the title is designed to draw attention to either vowels or consonants ... but what then
[01:30] <xnbomb> i can use the times to pick letters by rounding down, up or to the nearest hour, which gives me 3 8-letter strings to chose from
[01:35] <xnbomb> sciencework.txt looks to be run length encoded by the elements' common names (otherwise why put Ag in the midst of a bunch of elements that start with S, and Au beside Gs etc.), but then what
[01:35] <xnbomb> it looks like it could be base-5 to base-36 again, but either I've made an error, or it isn't that
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[01:36] <xnbomb> homework.txt ... the common names again?
[01:36] <xnbomb> netspliterino
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[01:38] <xnbomb> hmm, that was a short one
[01:40] <xnbomb> sciencework.txt seems likely to be binary (since there are 48 elements) and could provide a binary password for ppics.zip, homework is shorter, maybe ASCII for ppics2.kgb
[01:51] <catherwood> i've made 55 thumbnails for my index page, amazing that there are still more for me to gather
[01:52] <xnbomb> its a lot of images and they are nicely put together
[01:53] <catherwood> 1 sec
[01:53] <catherwood> http://catwood.leftbrained.org/ArtHeist/photogallery.htm  are any of those new to you?
[01:54] <catherwood> (or repeats on the page?)
[01:54] <xnbomb> i don't think I've seen 1-29 before
[01:56] <catherwood> i'll have to steal a few of Rowan's set of 64
[01:56] <xnbomb> the rest, I couldn't say ... although there is one with weird sideways colored stripes from a jpeg error that I don't see there
[01:57] <enaxor> 1-29 is from one of Ians DJ gigs
[01:58] <xnbomb> i meant new as in hadn't seen in these compendia or in the flash before
[01:58] <xnbomb> but, thanks ... I had no idea where it was from either
[01:58] <enaxor> that's what I get for not scrolling back or paying attention :)
[01:59] <enaxor> I'm still vegging out after the wedding
[02:00] <xnbomb> congrats btw, I assume it went well
[02:00] <enaxor> thanks, it was great
[02:00] <enaxor> soooo glad it's over and done
[02:01] <xnbomb> yeah, that's one of the funny things about weddings ... so much of the happiness is a result of relief
[02:01] <enaxor> yep
[02:02] <enaxor> tomorrow hopefully I'll be able to catch up on all the latest happenings in heist
[02:02] <catherwood> whoops, i do see a dupe on my own page
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[02:09] <HitsHerMark> hi all
[02:09] <xnbomb> hi hhm
[02:10] <xnbomb> since your last visit, talk of /darkplace images and my futile musings on remaining puzzles
[02:10] <HitsHerMark> are there any new emails on ian net
[02:10] <xnbomb> not that i've seen of late
[02:10] <HitsHerMark> cool
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[02:42] <xnbomb> well, that's enough tilting at windmills more one day
[02:42] <catherwood> added 15 of Rowan's to my set of 54...
[02:42] <catherwood> and yes, i need to go to bed now
[02:42] <xnbomb> great, thanks for putting that together
[02:42] <xnbomb> me too, gnight
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[09:35] <j5> hmm, a clue about the plants?
[09:36] <nawoR> ok - thumbnails have been updated again
[09:36] <j5> is it a noob or a........plant? har dee har
[09:36] <j5> ty row
[09:36] <j5> how many are we up to now?
[09:37] <nawoR> i have 68
[09:37] <nawoR> but i think cather has some that i dont have
[09:38] <j5> you should add it to the subject (if there's room)
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[09:39] <j5> would it kill ya?.....oh
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[09:45] <j5> morning scrapple
[09:45] <ScrappyDoo> morning J
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[10:10] <enaxor> this is prolly trout, but nisha is calling for help from the coachella 5
[10:11] <j5> oh?
[10:11] <enaxor> http://iannet.lastresortretrieval.com/nisha/secret/mailinbox/0179.html
[10:11] <j5> I haven't seen that
[10:11] <nawoR> neither have i
[10:11] <enaxor> whew, not trout
[10:11] <nawoR> but i usually wait until someone else posts stuff :)
[10:11] <j5> well, there's the consolation mission :)
[10:12] <enaxor> and she wants HHM to keep Ian under check
[10:12] <j5> lol
[10:12] <nawoR> *sigh* if only i was in LA I could watch out for Ian
[10:12] * nawoR curses her bad luck
[10:12] <enaxor> :(
[10:13] <j5> damn my geographical kismet
[10:13] <nawoR> well i know jane and kiyash can't make it
[10:13] <j5> correct
[10:13] <nawoR> Coachella 5 - Nisha Needs You! http://tinyurl.com/cdr6q | Thumbnails: http://www.wonderweasels.org/heist/darkplace/images/ | /heart death:future  /darkplace hidden:secrets /mind synapse:tatumthink /forthcoming expediency:newconceptualization | Need to catch up? http://www.stolena3.com
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[10:14] <nawoR> crap
[10:14] <j5> oops
[10:14] <nawoR> /topic #heist Coachella 5 - Nisha Needs You! http://tinyurl.com/cdr6q | Thumbnails: http://www.wonderweasels.org/heist/darkplace/images/ | /heart death:future  /darkplace hidden:secrets /mind synapse:tatumthink /forthcoming expediency:newconceptualization | Need to catch up? http://www.stolena3.com
[10:14] <nawoR> oh son of a bitch
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[10:14] <j5> phine call too: http://iannet.lastresortretrieval.com/nisha/001445.html
[10:14] <ScrappyStudyingBlah> lol
[10:15] <enaxor> oh phone call must have just been posted
[10:15] <j5> phine phone call :)
[10:16] <enaxor> very phine call
[10:16] <j5> I got 404 on it
[10:17] <j5> nm
[10:18] <nawoR> somone gonna post these to uf?
[10:19] <enaxor> I'll post to updates
[10:19] <j5> ty ex
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[10:23] <j5> morning sphinx
[10:23] <missphinx> morning j5
[10:24] <missphinx> checking updates
[10:24] <j5> updates complete
[10:24] <j5> restarting system
[10:24] <missphinx> all systems go
[10:24] <Lou|work> also, calling the Coachella 5!
[10:25] <Lou|work> Nisha's inbox
[10:25] <Lou|work> woo
[10:25] <j5> heya Lou, woo indeed
[10:25] <Lou|work> hey j5
[10:25] <missphinx> I guess Jane can't go, from last night - how's she doing?
[10:26] <j5> sounded busy
[10:26] <j5> which is good :)
[10:26] <enaxor> shoot uf, just went down
[10:27] <enaxor> I don't know if my post went through
[10:27] <j5> oh
[10:27] <missphinx> well, save the text if you can
[10:28] <enaxor> I think I copied it in time
[10:29] * missphinx goes to look at google earth press
[10:29] <missphinx> that's what the husband has been busy with
[10:30] <enaxor> posted
[10:30] <j5> is an earth press for making earth coffee?
[10:30] <enaxor> my hubby's been busy buying google stock
[10:30] <missphinx> Yes. Natural coffee extracted from the soil of richest jamaica
[10:30] <missphinx> your hubby is smart
[10:31] <j5> it's pretty expensive atm
[10:31] <enaxor> he'd of been much smarter is he listened to me a few months ago ;)
[10:31] <missphinx> I was supposed to buy some, but I am lame.
[10:32] <missphinx> j5 - the earth thing is a free version of the satellite image viewing software
[10:32] <j5> ah, ok
[10:34] <enaxor> http://desktop.google.com/download/earth/index.html
[10:34] <enaxor> I think that is where you can dl it
[10:34] <missphinx> yep :)
[10:34] <missphinx> I'm wondering if I should write scapegoat
[10:35] <j5> you think he was going to give us hidden:secrets as our reward?
[10:35] <missphinx> oh....duh
[10:35] <j5> btw, now we know why we had to solve the whole cube.
[10:35] <missphinx> why?
[10:36] <j5> the 4 date error messages had clues to user/pass for mind/heart
[10:36] <j5> not that they helped much :/
[10:37] <missphinx> yes.
[10:38] <missphinx> I wonder how long it would have taken us to try /mind /heart
[10:38] <missphinx> I guess if there are other directories, well scapegoat would have mentioned it
[10:44] <enaxor> wow google earth is awesome
[10:48] <Hellion> eh, its ok
[10:48] <Hellion> for some reason it won't zoom in on gainesville
[10:49] <enaxor> we have local treasure hunts around here and you can add layers for park
[10:49] <enaxor> s
[10:49] <enaxor> so it's good see where the parks are and what they look like
[10:50] <Hellion> I found my house back in boca... totally awesome
[10:50] <enaxor> I heard that keyhole(I think thats what its called) is really good too, but not free
[10:50] <missphinx> Yes it rocks. For $20 you get more features. 
[10:51] <missphinx> It'll be a good game tool.
[10:51] <enaxor> and with keyhole you can change how you view
[10:51] <Hellion> ?
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[10:54] <enaxor> hellion, I heard you can change the view point to see it from almost ground level
[10:54] <enaxor> but not sure about that
[10:54] <Hellion> oh wow
[10:55] <missphinx> yeah, you can fly in from ground level and it goes sort of 3-d
[10:55] <enaxor> you can change the tilt in google, but you don't seem to get 3d image
[10:55] <Hellion> interesting
[10:55] <missphinx> try the grand canyon or something
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[10:57] <missphinx> some areas don't have as high resolution
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[10:59] <nawoR> alas - my house is right in the middle of an area that hasn't been fully scanned
[11:01] <j5> atlas?
[11:06] <Hellion> same here Rowan
[11:09] <Tien_Le> is anyone even remotely interested in seeing War of the Worlds?  Those have to be the least exciting trailers known to mankind.
[11:09] <missphinx> WoW - agree
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[11:10] <missphinx> hi celina  - looks like you're going to be busy during the party :)
[11:12] <celina63> WOOO!
[11:12] <celina63> I need to email Nisha and tell her I've got her back  :-)
[11:12] <j5> what will you be doing?
[11:12] <celina63> Since I know Jane won't be able to be there
[11:12] <celina63> I'm not one of the Coachella 5... but I can help in place of Jane  :-)
[11:13] <j5> buy a pink wig then
[11:13] <j5> :)
[11:13] <missphinx> You're C5+
[11:13] <celina63> so what is it... nisha@lastresortretrieval.com?
[11:13] <missphinx> yep - Nisha@LastResortRetrieval.com from lrr
[11:16] <celina63> hmmm
[11:16] <celina63> how to sign... as me in here, or as me in SA3?
[11:16] <nawoR> or put both
[11:16] <j5> y
[11:17] <celina63> ok, email sent
[11:17] <celina63> I guess it's a good thing that the spouse isn't accompanying me, then  :-)
[11:17] <celina63> he thought it was just going to be like what I did in Huntington Beach - a dinner thing to meet people
[11:18] <nawoR> lol
[11:18] <celina63> but when I told him I would more than likely be participating in the actual game (I told him it would be like the final act of a play), he was like "Uh... yeah, you can go do that, I'll watch on the webcam"  :-D
[11:18] <j5> well, at least he will watch you
[11:19] <Tien_Le> I think that's sweet.
[11:19] <nawoR> did your wife just nod and say 'have a good time dear'?
[11:19] <j5> yep
[11:19] <Tien_Le> smile
[11:19] <j5> she hasn't even listed to the mission audio
[11:20] <j5> listened
[11:20] <Tien_Le> ARG spouses are pretty understanding for the most part.
[11:20] <j5> ah well
[11:20] <j5> yes, thankfully
[11:20] <Tien_Le> Look at Steve's family.  They have to be very forebearing
[11:20] <j5> no doubt
[11:20] <enaxor> my spouse calls all of you my "outerspacepeoplefriends"
[11:20] <Tien_Le> lol
[11:20] <j5> lol
[11:21] <celina63> my ARGSpouse just thinks I'm weird  :-)
[11:21] <celina63> and you're all "those online people"
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[11:21] <nawoR> the joys of being single ;)
[11:21] <nawoR> hi cassandra
[11:21] <Tien_Le> amen
[11:21] <j5> you're all "my puzzle friends"
[11:21] <cassandra> heya
[11:21] <Diandra> OMG...you guys are...real?
[11:22] <Tien_Le> lol
[11:22] <j5> hiy casandra
[11:22] <j5> +s
[11:22] <nawoR> i am a figment of my imagination
[11:22] <j5> no dia, we aren't
[11:22] <Diandra> whrew
[11:22] <Diandra> scared me for a sec
[11:22] <enaxor> morning dia
[11:22] <celina63> we're figments of your WAY overactive imagination
[11:22] <j5> it's the LSD talking again, 
[11:22] * Tien_Le has never met cassandra before
[11:22] <Diandra> morning ex
[11:22] <Tien_Le> Hey D
[11:22] <Diandra> hello TL
[11:23] <j5> hi D hi
[11:23] <Tien_Le> how's Honey?
[11:23] <cassandra> I'm not usually on chat during work ;)
[11:23] <Diandra> she's healing, thanks...starting to get some hair back, but not in one spot : (
[11:23] <Tien_Le> how-do-you-do?
[11:23] <cassandra> very well, thanks -and yourself?
[11:23] <Diandra> hoping that spot fills in eventually
[11:24] <Tien_Le> I am pretty well, thank you.
[11:24] <nawoR> wow - i'm still seeing stuff in the pics i hadn't noticed
[11:24] <Tien_Le> yes, bald spots on dogs are bad.
[11:24] <Diandra> i wanted to bring her to ARGFest, but I don't think that's going to be possible now
[11:25] <Diandra> this would have been her second fest
[11:25] * celina63 listens to the new recorded call
[11:25] <celina63> geeze, Ian
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[11:25] <celina63> then again, Nisha treats him like a little by
[11:25] <celina63> boy
[11:25] <Tien_Le> who takes care of her when you're away?
[11:26] <Tien_Le> yes, the Nisha/Ian relationship is a rocky one...one-sided if you ask me.
[11:26] <nawoR> maybe we can hook HHM and Ian up at the party
[11:26] <Diandra> well right now I am watching a maltese while the owners are away in Europe...they will take Honey when they get back so I can go to NYC and points beyond
[11:26] <Tien_Le> Nisha is almost as self-absorbed as Virgil
[11:26] <Tien_Le> ah, that works out nicely
[11:26] <Diandra> yes, we trade
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[11:27] <nawoR> bye cassandra
[11:27] <Diandra> i will also have a chihuahua over the long weekend
[11:27] <celina63> Dia, awww... no Honey?
[11:27] <Diandra> 3 dog night
[11:27] <celina63> HA
[11:27] <j5> spec: nisha monitors the situation until such time as she needs to barge in and save the day
[11:27] <Tien_Le> ooo, friends for Honey...she must enjoy that
[11:28] <Diandra> i doubt it Celina...I won't be going home for about a month once I leave for the Fest, so I'd have to keep honey with me and it's a lot of flying
[11:28] <Tien_Le> j5: agreed
[11:28] <celina63> Dia, do you take her in the cabin with you, when she flies with you
[11:28] <celina63> ?
[11:29] <Diandra> otherwise I would definitely. she's welcome at my hotel and I hear the Penn is pet-friendly, too
[11:29] <Diandra> yes...never in cargo!
[11:29] <celina63> that's cool  :-)
[11:29] <celina63> I always wanted to take my cats flying with me... and then I rememeber how they are in the CAR
[11:29] <Diandra> actually, she only flies first class
[11:29] <Diandra> lol
[11:30] <celina63> As does Mommy, I assume  :-)
[11:30] <Diandra> well i can't let her sit up there all by herself!
[11:30] <Tien_Le> giggle
[11:31] <Diandra> she came to dinner in Orlando at the Fest
[11:31] <Diandra> she went from lap to lap
[11:31] <j5> lap surfing?
[11:32] <Diandra> until Scrappy Do showed up...she was like, "OOOOHH! A life-sized stuffed animal!"
[11:32] <Tien_Le> anyone ever have trouble with the K-lite codec?
[11:32] <ScrappyStudyingBlah> wha? i'm a life sized stuffed animal?
[11:32] <Diandra> Lazarus Long has a pic of her hi-5ing Scrappy
[11:33] <j5> lol
[11:34] <Diandra> in other words, she had the proper reaction for a 3 yr old human child. Must be all the Fisher-Price toys she has
[11:34] <Diandra> people walk in my house and think i have a toddler
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[11:34] <j5> you do
[11:34] <j5> only a four legged one
[11:34] <Diandra> i suppose so
[11:35] <Diandra> my doghter
[11:35] <enaxor> lol
[11:35] <j5> badum chee
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[11:36] <Diandra> seriously...she has a piano, a vending machine, a ball dispenser, and more
[11:37] <Tien_Le> well, at least you don't have to worry about her having an eating disorder or running away from home.
[11:37] <Diandra> this is true
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[11:39] <j5> methinks some solves are pending on SA3
[11:39] <celina63> yeah, we need to get cracking on SD6 before tomorrow
[11:40] * nawoR gets out her whip
[11:40] <j5> ooh, baby
[11:40] <celina63> w00t!
[11:40] * nawoR straps on her high heeled leather boots
[11:40] <celina63> still... nothing back from scape
[11:41] <celina63> makes me wonder
[11:41] <celina63> is he in trouble?
[11:41] <celina63> I'm tempted to PM
[11:41] <celina63> but he hasn't responded to other PMs, so...
[11:41] <j5> he has to think of something
[11:41] <j5> maybe console :)
[11:43] <Lou|work> hey, right now, we're trying to find the 4th directory that will lead us to the last piece of that hand written note, right?
[11:43] <j5> nope
[11:43] <Lou|work> or do we only have 2 pieces?
[11:44] <Lou|work> what are we doing, then?
[11:44] * Tien_Le waves to Lou
[11:44] <Lou|work> hi TL
[11:44] <j5> chatting
[11:44] <Lou|work> LOL
[11:44] * xnb[o]mb is now known as xnbomb
[11:44] <Lou|work> good point
[11:44] * Lou|work slaps j5 around with a smoked salmon
[11:44] * xnbomb asked for some on a bagel
[11:44] * j5 eats the salmon
[11:45] <celina63> Lou, considering either solving /console, or perhaps solving the rest of SD6
[11:45] <celina63> and wondering what happened to Scapegoat
[11:45] <Lou|work> oh, console is the last directory?
[11:45] <celina63> yeah
[11:45] <celina63> but more than likely just another error page
[11:45] <celina63> but still... uncompleted
[11:45] <xnbomb> 3 puzzles left on SD6, look like they should be not too hard ... but yet ...
[11:47] <xnbomb> we also haven't done anything with those six strings of binary, assuming we are supposed to do something with them
[11:47] <j5> well, too  many for 5-bit innit?
[11:47] <j5> unless we don't use the last Ian card
[11:47] <j5> because it's suspect
[11:48] <xnbomb> yeah, that's totally unresolved and unresolvable
[11:49] <Diandra> what was that about taking a piece from each group and rearranging? like taking the first characters from each binary and stringing those together, then the second, then third, etc.
[11:49] <j5> that was one of the journal solves
[11:49] <Diandra> well perhaps it applies here
[11:49] <Diandra> you know how these cards like their themes
[11:50] <j5> yep
[11:50] <Diandra> go get 'em j-5
[11:50] <j5> can't busy
[11:50] <j5> +,
[11:51] <Diandra> yyou have 3 more days there...afraid to get fired?  lmao
[11:51] <j5> I have to present my systems to the rest of the team
[11:51] * varin is now known as v[a]rin
[11:51] <xnbomb> ah yes, the transfer of knowledge exercise
[11:51] <j5> and I have some integrity, not much mind you, but some
[11:51] <j5> barely
[11:51] <j5> ok, I'm lying
[11:52] <Diandra> screw the team! where were they when you needed help before?!
[11:52] <j5> help finding a job?
[11:52] <j5> :D
[11:52] <Diandra> right!
[11:52] <j5> lol
[11:52] <celina63> j5, what do you do?
[11:52] <celina63> programmer?
[11:52] <j5> no, infosec
[11:53] <celina63> ah
[11:53] <j5> but for the most part babysit appliances
[11:53] <celina63> funny... just now taking a course on IA
[11:53] <Diandra> you still have 3 days for that...we have a deadline of tomorrow
[11:53] <j5> I have a debrief with my manager today
[11:53] <j5> and drinking later
[11:53] <j5> so....
[11:53] <Diandra> we are your team!
[11:53] <celina63> or, Information Assurance Awareness
[11:54] <j5> beers > puzzles :)
[11:54] <celina63> ooo drinking
[11:54] <celina63> true... I always think better when drunk  :-)
[11:54] <celina63> or perhaps I'm just more intuitive or something
[11:54] <xnbomb> less inhibited by convention and logic
[11:54] <xnbomb> that might actually help with these puzzles
[11:55] <j5> damn your conventional logic
[11:55] <Diandra> okay, j-5...just let xnbomb solve it then
[11:55] <Diandra> : )
[11:55] <j5> will do
[11:56] <j5> or you....
[11:56] <xnbomb> I will keep trying, but I'm afraid I've used all the ideas that make sense to me already
[11:56] <celina63> I don't think my job would be appreciative of me getting wasted at work just to solve puzzles  :-)
[11:56] <j5> maybe not
[11:56] <j5> it makes for a long day, let me tell you
[11:57] <j5> now who can help me unsecure this linux box?
[11:57] <j5> I locked it down and forgot what I did to it :)
[11:57] <xnbomb> hmm, maybe I'll count letters from the right instead of the left in prsnttn
[11:58] <j5> I tried using the :55 as multiples of 5 with a AEIOU lookup
[11:58] <j5> an^
[11:58] <celina63> j5, reinstall  :-)
[11:58] <xnbomb> interesting
[11:58] <celina63> nuke and pave
[11:58] <j5> yep
[11:58] <j5> let them worry about it :)
[11:59] <j5> it's just remote access
[11:59] <j5> everything else is fine
[11:59] <xnbomb> take out the network card and hit it with a mallet a couple of times
[11:59] <j5> lol
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[12:09] <missphinx> The sad truth is that work does get in the way. Multitasking can only go so far :)
[12:09] <j5> true indeed
[12:09] <missphinx> I see you guys later.
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[12:09] <j5> and I can't handle distractions worth a damn
[12:10] <celina63> I PMed scape to ask if he's ok, we'll see if I get a response
[12:11] <xnbomb> maybe emile finally caught up with him
[12:11] <celina63> yeah
[12:12] <Ariock> how many of the C5 are going to be able to go?
[12:12] <xnbomb> hhm will be there, dunno about any others
[12:12] <Ariock> yikes
[12:12] <xnbomb> perhaps the mysterious Laura?
[12:13] <Ariock> did missphinx get in touch with Jane or Kiyash?
[12:13] <celina63> Jane was here last night, she can't make it
[12:13] <xnbomb> jane was in here last night, but to answer your question, I dunno
[12:13] <celina63> I've emailed Nisha, volunteering to help in Jane's stead  :-)
[12:13] <Ariock> if J knows, K does
[12:13] <celina63> and I'm pretty sure Kiyash is going
[12:14] <j5> no
[12:14] <nawoR> no, kiyash can't make it either
[12:14] <j5> I think she said he isn't
[12:14] <celina63> oh!
[12:14] <celina63> my mistake
[12:14] <Diandra> i spoke to Jane last night...she doesn't have time to fly or drive there by tomorrow. She in SF, the mission is in LA
[12:14] <Ariock> damn.
[12:14] <Diandra> no for J&K unfortunately
[12:15] <xnbomb> note to Nisha:  contact C5 earlier
[12:15] <Diandra> anyone heard from CSKane?
[12:15] <Ariock> are you in LA, celina?
[12:16] <Ariock> for some reason I thought you were East Coast
[12:16] <celina63> I'm in San Diego, driving up for the event
[12:16] <Ariock> yo, etc
[12:18] <Diandra> I just messaged Kane. Maybe he can sub for one of the Coachella 5.
[12:18] <j5> good idea
[12:19] <j5> smg said he was in, correct?
[12:19] <celina63> if Kane can, and doesn't have an invite, I have a "guest" I can bring
[12:19] <j5> kane has an invite
[12:19] <celina63> cool
[12:22] <j5> system fixed, whew
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[12:22] <celina63> yay!  Now get to work solving puzzles  :-)
[12:22] <j5> um, presentation in 1 hour, then manager debrief
[12:23] <j5> then beer
[12:23] <j5> so no
[12:23] <celina63> woo, beer
[12:23] <j5> plus I have to wipe my files :)
[12:24] <celina63> oh, your "files"
[12:24] <celina63> I saw something else there for a sec
[12:24] <j5> yes
[12:24] <j5> flies?
[12:25] <j5> celina!
[12:25] <celina63> heehee
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[12:30] <j5> morning ariock :P
[12:30] <Ariock> good morning
[12:30] <Ariock> good morning
[12:31] <Ariock> how are you?
[12:31] <j5> fine, how have you been?
[12:31] <Diandra> nivra...are you here?
[12:32] <Ariock> all right.  I was just trying to figure out if I could zip out for argfest and to see a friend, but I don't think it's gonna happen
[12:32] <Diandra> awww
[12:32] <Diandra> make it happen!
[12:32] <j5> ditto
[12:32] <Ariock> you aren't going?
[12:32] <Diandra> Dash better go
[12:32] <Ariock> because that was going to be a possible part of my plan, to share with you.
[12:33] <Ariock> not that I am now...
[12:33] <Ariock> dang it
[12:33] <Ariock> I need more vacation days
[12:33] <j5> sorry to hear ariock
[12:33] <celina63> HHM's email to Nisha posted on LRR
[12:33] <j5> dash is going, ditto to the awww
[12:34] <Ariock> ah
[12:34] <Ariock> thanks.
[12:34] <xnbomb> "its a tragically hip place" ... heh
[12:34] <Ariock> and thank you Diandra
[12:34] <Diandra> for what I do not know, but you are welcome
[12:35] <xnbomb> well, I gotta say I'm impressed ... hhm is fairly critical there, and yet there it is, posted
[12:37] <celina63> yes
[12:37] <celina63> I thought so too
[12:37] <Tien_Le> guano twins?
[12:37] <celina63> I wasn't sure who that was
[12:37] <celina63> HHM has a way of making a name for herself in these games  :-)
[12:37] <xnbomb> "batshit crazy" is the reference I think
[12:37] <celina63> HAHA
[12:38] <Tien_Le> ah
[12:38] * Tien_Le thinks of that as an insult to bats
[12:39] * Tien_Le is still wildly in love with Batman Begins
[12:42] * celina63 still hasn't heard from Nisha regarding her volunteer offer
[12:42] <celina63> not that I'm impatient or anything  :-)
[12:42] <j5> wow, that was critical of HHM, and understandable
[12:43] <celina63> I assume the "other lady" she "worked for" was Melissa/SP
[12:43] <j5> y
[12:43] <Tien_Le> she's skeptical...can't blame her.
[12:44] <Tien_Le> and not overly impressed with Nisha, I gather...again, can't blame her.
[12:44] <j5> yeppers
[12:44] <Diandra> reply from Kane: he will be there with a guest. He's not too fond of Nisha but will contact her regarding the mission. 
[12:44] <Tien_Le> while Nisha seems to have an 'affect' on men, it doesn't translate to women
[12:45] <j5> nope
[12:45] <j5> meow..ffft..ffft 
[12:45] <j5> :p
[12:45] <Tien_Le> giggle
[12:45] <celina63> lol
[12:46] <celina63> I guess I'm immune, but I haven't met her
[12:46] <celina63> so
[12:46] <celina63> I think she treats Ian like a little boy instead of a partner
[12:46] <celina63> but that's all
[12:46] <celina63> she seemed to be OK during the Chicago mission, right?
[12:46] <Tien_Le> besides blathering at Gunter?
[12:47] <Tien_Le> I'm jaded...just haven't seen evidence that she is as good at her job as we're meant to believe
[12:48] <j5> Virgil has more background info as a character than either Nisha or Ian
[12:48] <j5> at least as presented
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[12:49] <celina63> hey Cath
[12:49] <Tien_Le> great work on the images, Cath
[12:49] <xnbomb> and it's all set up for the Ouroboros ending ... all make believe by Virgil, who has had us playing his game?
[12:49] <Tien_Le> Virgil is definitely more believable as the character he's presented.
[12:50] <catherwork> Rowan, did you upload any more pics?  I took 15 of yours last night, making almost 70 total
[12:51] <catherwork> gah, work meeting in 5 mins, must focus, back later
[12:52] <catherwork> oh, where can i learn what Ourobouros is?  i mean in relation to this story?  
[12:52] <celina63> Electronic Ouroboros on VKOC
[12:53] <celina63> http://www.virgilkingofcode.com/ouroboros.html
[12:53] <Tien_Le> later
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[12:54] <catherwork> thanks, what is it? a series of essays?  more peeks into the dark mind of Virgil?
[12:54] <j5> description of the concept
[12:54] <celina63> just one essay
[12:54] * catherwork MUST avoid these temptations 
[12:54] <celina63> lol
[12:55] <catherwork> bye!
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[12:55] <celina63> print it out and read it in the bathroom  :-D
[12:55] <celina63> ok, meeting time, bbl
[12:57] <nawoR> cath - yes, all of my pics are up now
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[13:07] <j5> off to prep, bye guys
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[13:10] <Xuratu> The SHOCKING CONCLUSION is coming soon . .!
[13:11] <Hellion> hey Xu, did you decide how to get your game going?
[13:11] <Xuratu> I did.
[13:12] <Hellion> how're you going to do it?
[13:13] <Xuratu> Now if I told you, it'd hardly be fair.
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[13:14] <Hellion> ok, cool. I figured you'd say that.
[13:14] <Xuratu> Well, what do you expect? ^ ^;
[13:15] <Hellion> iunno...
[13:16] <Hellion> well, good luck with the game.
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[13:20] <enaxor> another tidbit from worry to nisha
[13:22] <nawoR> i like hhms email
[13:23] <Xuratu> http://iannet.lastresortretrieval.com/nisha/secret/mailinbox/0181.html
[13:23] <nawoR> so emile has been spying on ian
[13:23] <nawoR> err, virgil
[13:23] <nawoR> 'my plans! my dreams!
[13:23] <Xuratu> Hahah.
[13:24] <Xuratu> I'd kinda like to see what's on Virgil's PC>
[13:24] <nawoR> someone needs to warn ian that emile is on to him
[13:24] <enaxor> me too
[13:24] <enaxor> tell him rowan
[13:24] <nawoR> i cant email from work
[13:25] <enaxor> oh
[13:25] <nawoR> gmail is blocked for me, and i dont really like using my work email addy for game stuff
[13:25] <enaxor> I would but it just disappears into the black hole
[13:25] <enaxor> j5, you do it
[13:26] <enaxor> ack, he's gone
[13:27] <Diandra> i thought HHM was supposed to be watching Ian
[13:28] <Xuratu> Why don't you do it, enaxor?
[13:28] <Hellion> Rowan, do you have a thumb drive?
[13:28] <Xuratu> I'm Virgil's glossy fangirl/boy, so I certainly can't. :P
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[13:29] <nawoR> thumb drive?
[13:30] <Nick_> i can e-mail ian
[13:30] <Nick_> if nobody else has yet.
[13:30] <Hellion> yeah. A small flash drive for transferring files from one computer to another
[13:30] <xnbomb> go for it
[13:30] <nawoR> no
[13:30] <Hellion> hm
[13:30] <nawoR> why?
[13:31] <enaxor> I was just writing one
[13:31] <Hellion> you could install a portable distribution of thunderbird, run it off there, and use it to use gmail at work
[13:31] <enaxor> is it his home computer that virgil is worried about
[13:31] <Hellion> assuming the wouldn't block gmail's pop3 server...
[13:31] <Hellion> anyways, just wondering
[13:31] <nawoR> gmail is completely blocked by firewalls
[13:32] <Hellion> that's annoying
[13:32] <nawoR> yes
[13:32] <Diandra> I messaged HHM  lol
[13:33] <xnbomb> and funny too ... "Do not use your corporate email for personal matters, do not access your personal email at work, do not think about personal matters while at work ... "
[13:33] <Diandra> She needs to report back to Nisha as she's supposed to be keeping an eye on Ian.
[13:33] <nawoR> she already wrote to nisha
[13:33] <Diandra> she wrote to Nisha that Ian is at Virgil's?
[13:34] <nawoR> you know - had they bought me a ticket out there, i would have gladly watched ian all day
[13:34] <nawoR> no - i dont think she has the ability to go look for him right now
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[13:34] <Diandra> hahaha
[13:35] <Diandra> well HHM is gonna be in trouble with Nisha unless she reports this!
[13:35] <missphinx> reports ?
[13:35] <xnbomb> didn't worry send this to Nisha?
[13:35] <nawoR> ya, worry reported in
[13:35] <nawoR> maybe hhm is worry! :o
[13:35] <nawoR> heeheh
[13:35] <xnbomb> ?!
[13:36] <xnbomb> that would explain so much ;-)
[13:36] <nawoR> she probably just didnt like the way myke was jerking her around
[13:36] <nawoR> so she offed him
[13:36] <missphinx> Then she hooked up with emile. He's paying her to stalk.
[13:36] <nawoR> then since oak screwed up the whole zombie mime taping she taught him a lesson
[13:36] <Hellion> what about gunter?
[13:37] <xnbomb> geeze, we better stay on her good side
[13:37] <nawoR> he needed to be put out of his misery
[13:37] <missphinx> Mercy kill.
[13:37] <nawoR> well - just look at her name
[13:37] <xnbomb> lol
[13:37] <nawoR> not a happy go lucky name
[13:37] <celina63> Fear HHM
[13:37] <celina63> lol
[13:37] <nawoR> plus that avatar of hers
[13:37] <celina63> oh, and I've returned
[13:37] <celina63> btw
[13:37] <nawoR> who knows what she's looking at
[13:37] <celina63> lol
[13:38] <enaxor> I wrote to Ian, told him they know about him but that virgils home computer might make a good acquisition
[13:38] <missphinx> celina, have you heard back who you get to stalk yet? Will maybe? :)
[13:39] <missphinx> or has Nisha figured out that Will is here.
[13:39] <celina63> not yet
[13:39] <celina63> haven't heard back at all
[13:40] <missphinx> maybe you should mail ian and offer to help him instead (unless you already have)
[13:40] <celina63> no, I'll wait
[13:40] <celina63> don't want to play TOO many sides against the other  :-)
[13:41] <celina63> at least not yet
[13:42] <celina63> or, the online characters hate me  :-)
[13:42] <celina63> no response from Scapegoat either
[13:42] <missphinx> I don't get responses either.
[13:42] <enaxor> I think we all feel that way celina
[13:43] <enaxor> xnbomb needs to send more emails to fill up the blackhole, so they start to overflow and reappear
[13:44] <xnbomb> heh
[13:44] <xnbomb> they're probably coming out in another universe
[13:44] <enaxor> heh
[13:44] <missphinx> :)
[13:45] <missphinx> the universe of filtered email
[13:50] <xnbomb> well, I suppose we're not supposed to know where Virgil's house is, so he must be enlisting a different kind of help
[13:50] <celina63> yeah, Emile's gonna send the Goons after Ian
[13:51] <xnbomb> that would be an interesting move, quite revealing
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[13:51] <xnbomb> of course, we could always think that somehow the goons just managed to catch up with him out of the blue
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[13:52] <nawoR> you know - it does make you wonder if emile really has been looking after virgils house
[13:52] <nawoR> OR if he knows because he is CG
[13:52] <xnbomb> works that way too
[13:52] <missphinx> Emile sounds awfully nervous about it.
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[13:53] <nawoR> there are so many ways you can read all of this - its so great
[13:53] <missphinx> And I really doubt Emile thinks that Ian is going to "plant evidence" - he's playing Virgil.
[13:53] <xnbomb> approximating real life ... causation is an illusion ... a narrative is whatever you choose to construct that helps make sense of it all, but it is no way unique or correct
[13:54] <Diandra> Virgil Tatum & Naoko Wu
[13:54] <Diandra> 721 Third Street
[13:54] <Diandra> Brentwood, CA 94513
[13:54] <Diandra> 925-516-2371
[13:54] <Diandra> Brentwood/Byron [East Contra Costa]
[13:54] <nawoR> ya, but is there really a house there
[13:54] <xnbomb> from the death certificate?
[13:54] <xnbomb> or the insurance letter
[13:54] <Diandra> it was in my notes
[13:55] <Diandra> from something in Virgil's stuff
[13:55] <xnbomb> I wonder about the phone number ... somebody wanna try?
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[13:55] <enaxor> google maps shows it to be in a park
[13:56] <nawoR> probably a standard voice mail
[13:56] <Diandra> yes, i had that too ex...but wasn't sure if there was a house at the edge of that park
[13:56] <Xuratu> Busy signal.
[13:56] <Xuratu> I'll try again in a bit.
[13:56] <nawoR> lol
[13:57] <nawoR> doesn't he have call waiting?
[13:57] <enaxor> lol
[13:58] <missphinx> It would be pretty funny if this is the one place that we were supposed to figure out, but we just assumed it was like the rest 
[13:58] <nawoR> hehe
[13:58] <missphinx> Ian and Will are sitting there waiting.
[13:58] <nawoR> for someone to show up and give them cookies
[13:59] <Lou|work> number's busy
[14:01] <Diandra> it's weird that Emile tells Virgil he can't go alone...yet he says he already has someone there watching.
[14:01] <Diandra> Then he wouldn't be alone
[14:01] <Diandra> DIH!
[14:02] <Diandra> DOH!
[14:02] <missphinx> ?
[14:02] <missphinx> He wants Virgil out of the house so he can grab his computer?
[14:02] <Diandra> Emile said he's had someone watching Virgil's house for weeks
[14:03] <Diandra> Emile doesn't want to grab VIrgil's computer
[14:03] <Diandra> I think you are mixed up Sphinx
[14:03] <missphinx> :) I know that
[14:03] <missphinx> So what does Emile want?
[14:03] <nawoR> to get ian out of the way?
[14:04] <Diandra> he makes it sound like he want's to help Virgil
[14:04] <Diandra> however, if he's behind this, it could be a set-up
[14:04] <Diandra> my original point was what emile said to virgil made no sense
[14:05] <xnbomb> well, hopefully something will happen to someone (other than Ian) and we'll have less suspects ;-)
[14:05] <nawoR> unless Emile is CG - and he just told virgil that he's been wathching the house as an excuse
[14:05] <Diandra> hahaha
[14:05] <nawoR> i really think Ian needs to be the hero here
[14:06] <xnbomb> not too bright, but heart in the right place ... I can live with that
[14:06] <nawoR> if only to give himself a little credibility
[14:06] <celina63> what a tangled web we weave, when we practice to decieve
[14:07] <Diandra> well he could certainly use more practice, that's fo sure
[14:07] <Lou|work> ok, I called the number, and a woman answered
[14:07] <Lou|work> but I just hung up
[14:07] <Diandra> oooh
[14:07] <xnbomb> you're playing with 'em Lou :-)
[14:07] <Lou|work> although, (forgive the racial stereotyping) she sounded asian
[14:08] <nawoR> hideko!
[14:08] <Diandra> Naoko is alive!
[14:08] <missphinx> Naoko
[14:08] <xnbomb> Naoko?
[14:08] <missphinx> :)
[14:08] <Lou|work>  xnbomb: playing with who?
[14:08] <nawoR> someone needs to call back and ask if its the Tatum residence
[14:08] <xnbomb> you know ... 'them'
[14:08] <missphinx> and then what
[14:08] <Diandra> or the Wu residence : )
[14:08] <nawoR> ask when virgil will be home
[14:08] <Diandra> get olut...get out now!
[14:09] <Diandra> and leave the computer
[14:09] <nawoR> hehehe
[14:09] <missphinx> I still think Emile wants to get into Virgil's computer :)
[14:09] <nawoR> if only to look at his nisha pr0n
[14:09] <Diandra> i think Emile wants to get in Virgil's pants
[14:09] <Diandra> I mean head
[14:09] <missphinx> Maybe it's Scapegoat. He promised us more stuff, but he has to get it off of Virgil's drive first.
[14:10] <missphinx> :)
[14:10] <celina63> Google has that number belonging to "Gilberto Nares" in Brentwood
[14:10] <Diandra> scapegoat is an asian woman
[14:10] <missphinx> Nares? As in "nose"?
[14:10] <celina63> 1914 Little John Way, Brentwood
[14:10] <celina63> so I would think OOG
[14:10] <xnbomb> geeze, if they used a real number that didn't belong to them ... shame
[14:10] <nawoR> do you remember where you found that number?
[14:11] <nawoR> all the others have been their own numbers
[14:11] <Diandra> not specifically...documents in Virgil's stuff
[14:11] <Diandra> you mapped that stuff out, right?
[14:12] <Diandra> here http://www.virgilkingofcode.com/naoko/photos/mex_tix.jpg
[14:13] <xnbomb> hmm
[14:13] <Diandra> my/wife of course
[14:14] <celina63> the 721 3rd St is just down the road from where Google says the number belongs
[14:14] <missphinx> I didn't see a Gilberto Nares, but Gilbert Nares is a judge in San Diego
[14:14] <celina63> and not *in* a park, but right next to one
[14:14] <celina63> and true... Google's phonebook could be out of date
[14:14] <missphinx> google maps are off
[14:15] <missphinx> often
[14:15] * Diandra wonders if the PMs are saying "whoops" on the phone number right now
[14:15] <nawoR> heh
[14:15] <xnbomb> it was probably just a quick decision back when they were fabricating that plane ticket
[14:16] <nawoR> maybe
[14:16] <missphinx> 925 is an area code in the SF bay area
[14:16] <missphinx> As a matter of fact, it was a clue in that East Bay Express minigame
[14:17] <nawoR> if i could call long distance, i'd call and ask if this was the tatum residence
[14:17] <xnbomb> I have it as being in Alameda and Contra Costa counties
[14:18] <missphinx> Yes, exactly. So why would a guy in Brentwood have his phone in Concord?
[14:18] <Diandra> i said that originally
[14:18] <Diandra> with the info in parens
[14:18] <Diandra> [East Contra Costa]
[14:19] <missphinx> sorry Dia I missed that
[14:19] <Diandra> s'ok
[14:19] <xnbomb> hmm ... which Brentwood
[14:20] <missphinx> oh never mind, it's the east bay brentood
[14:20] * missphinx goes duh and drools
[14:20] <xnbomb> so TatumThink is in the bay area ...
[14:20] * xnbomb smacks himself in the head
[14:21] <nawoR> then why have a party in santa monica?
[14:21] <Diandra> i guess virgil moved
[14:21] <missphinx> But Virgil lives in Southern California
[14:21] <missphinx> Maybe Naoko moved?
[14:21] <xnbomb> I dunno, but if we're meant to believe Virgil lives there, he can hardly commute all that far regularly
[14:21] <nawoR> well, the tickets are made out in Naoko's name
[14:22] <nawoR> maybe she lived up there for a w hile
[14:22] <missphinx> but there's the other thing with that address
[14:22] <missphinx> that envelope
[14:22] <xnbomb> and the death certificate
[14:22] <xnbomb> when they did live together, they lived there
[14:23] <xnbomb> or ... there is a third street in the other Brentwood ... and someone royally screwed up with the zip code
[14:23] <nawoR> maybe that's the old place
[14:23] <nawoR> the estate he bought back
[14:24] <missphinx> are we going to try the number again?
[14:24] <Diandra> it's still odd that they'd choose a live phone number
[14:24] <nawoR> i agree
[14:24] <nawoR> all the others have been theirs
[14:25] <nawoR> ooh - new email; at nishas
[14:25] <nawoR> from Virgie
[14:25] <nawoR> something about coachella
[14:25] * Xuratu GIVES CHASE
[14:25] <Xuratu> Virgie!!
[14:25] <nawoR> its a kt607
[14:25] <xnbomb> what the heck?
[14:25] <Diandra> i don't get it
[14:25] <missphinx> It's the Coachella SD card?
[14:25] <nawoR> this is odd to say the least
[14:26] <nawoR> how did he get his hands on it?
[14:26] <nawoR> unless...
[14:26] <nawoR> ian's emailing from inside his house
[14:26] <missphinx> don't tell me - more puzzles
[14:26] <nawoR> only 3 files
[14:26] <xnbomb> ktg7 ?
[14:26] <nawoR> yep
[14:27] <Diandra> are they dupes or new ones?
[14:27] <missphinx> the arclight.jpg is protected
[14:27] <nawoR> and an arclight picture
[14:27] <Xuratu> Crap.
[14:27] <nawoR> new files
[14:27] <nawoR> the ktg looks longer than the others
[14:27] <missphinx> yeah
[14:27] <nawoR> there's also a locked kgb file
[14:27] <missphinx> and are there any puzzles for clues?
[14:27] <nawoR> no
[14:27] <nawoR> thats it
[14:27] <nawoR> 3 files
[14:28] * Xuratu goes to work on the binary.
[14:28] <missphinx> that's what I though
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[14:28] <missphinx> good idea Xuratu
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[14:28] <xnbomb> long binary says original baudot
[14:29] <missphinx> which is a code
[14:29] <xnbomb> indeed
[14:29] <xnbomb> shorter piece is the same length as all the others
[14:29] <Xuratu> Shorter piece is really wild.
[14:30] <Xuratu> ¨øªA6
[14:30] <nawoR> The original Baudot code became known as the International Telegraph Code No. 1
[14:30] <xnbomb> possibly use it in combination with the old ones, or apply baudot type decoding to it and all the others
[14:30] <missphinx> handy that landlord posted the set earlier
[14:31] <Xuratu> How are these passwords put onto these files?
[14:31] <Diandra> HHM just messaged me that she was on her way to Viceroy
[14:31] <nawoR> go go hhm
[14:31] <Diandra> I told her Ian prolly isn't there right now
[14:31] <Xuratu> HHM kicks ass. <3
[14:31] <nawoR> what do you mean xuratu?
[14:32] <Xuratu> arclight.jpg is passworded -- how so?
[14:32] <Xuratu> What did the PMs use to password it?
[14:32] <nawoR> we dont know
[14:32] <Diandra> prolly the answer is in the binary files
[14:32] <missphinx> Okay, I just called 9255162371
[14:32] <nawoR> did you say anything?
[14:32] <xnbomb> you mean inside the zip ... like all the others, find a password in some accompanying files
[14:33] <missphinx> some little girl answered and I asked "Is Virgil available?" she goes ....who...? I said "I think I have the wrong #" she said "bye" :)
[14:33] <Diandra> awww
[14:33] <Xuratu> D'oh, I should've told you.
[14:33] <xnbomb> cute ... and shame
[14:33] <Xuratu> Same thing happened to me. ^ ^;;
[14:33] <nawoR> lol
[14:33] <missphinx> oh hell.
[14:33] <missphinx> :)
[14:33] <Xuratu> "Is Virgil Tatum there?" "No." "Must have the wrong number." "...oh..." "Well, bye." "Bye."
[14:33] <missphinx> little girl?
[14:34] <Xuratu> Yep.
[14:34] <Xuratu> Sounded really clueless, really ... tired.
[14:34] <Diandra> the PMs should send her a Treo
[14:34] <enaxor> I don't see the file with arclight pic
[14:34] <Diandra> lol
[14:34] <missphinx> Poor little girl.
[14:34] <xnbomb> inside insurance.zip
[14:35] <enaxor> but if this is the coachella card, why is the journal entry numbered 395
[14:35] <Diandra> HHM is confused...she sent me back a "huh?"
[14:35] <xnbomb> its a perfectly sensible question, and I can't think of a perfectly sensible answer
[14:36] <missphinx> HHM is going to be really pissed off at Nisha if Ian was at Virgil's house all along.
[14:36] <Xuratu> Dia: Explaining about "Virgil"'s e-mail?
[14:36] <Diandra> i did
[14:36] <Xuratu> Thought so.
[14:36] <missphinx> Is she far from the hotel?
[14:37] <enaxor> http://iannet.lastresortretrieval.com/ian/001439.html
[14:37] <enaxor> I think ian got us the card
[14:37] <enaxor> he's at virgils
[14:37] <missphinx> Man, if I were HHM and there was nothing at the hotel.
[14:37] <celina63> ooo that would be cool
[14:38] <celina63> if Ian is on Virgil's computer
[14:38] <nawoR> yes it would
[14:38] <enaxor> theres a link in the chat
[14:38] <enaxor> but it won't work
[14:38] <xnbomb> thats not bad ... not at all
[14:38] <enaxor> new easter egg
[14:39] <xnbomb> there's that card swipe Rowan :-)
[14:39] <nawoR> yay easter egg
[14:39] <nawoR> why didnt i see that the first time
[14:39] <enaxor> yep
[14:40] <nawoR> oh - cuz i didnt go look at ians side
[14:40] <celina63> enaxor, which chat... the latest between Ian and CG?
[14:40] <celina63> oh, a NEW IRC chat
[14:40] <missphinx> !!!!!!
[14:41] <missphinx> !!!!
[14:41] <xnbomb> damn!
[14:41] <nawoR> and todays binary reads: @~
[14:41] * missphinx tries not to spoilerize
[14:41] <nawoR> damn phone keeps ringing
[14:41] <Xuratu> Google says: Gilberto Nares, (925) 516-2371, 1914 Little John Way, Brentwood, CA 94513 
[14:41] * nawoR goes to watch
[14:42] <celina63> oh man, he's got the new iMac
[14:42] <missphinx> well, he would
[14:42] <xnbomb> G5, wasn't it
[14:42] <nawoR> i think i like him in blue
[14:42] <enaxor> poor Ian!!
[14:42] <missphinx> where the hell is Will?
[14:42] <Xuratu> Hotel suite.
[14:42] <nawoR> oh - maybe is black
[14:42] <celina63> GAH!
[14:42] <celina63> xn, could have been... saw the screen and thought it was the new iMac
[14:42] <nawoR> ACK! my sound died!
[14:43] <xnbomb> well, that certainly clears a couple of things up
[14:43] <nawoR> oh there it goes
[14:43] <missphinx> I sure hope they have something waiting for HHM at the hotel.
[14:43] <Xuratu> Oh, no. .my Virgil!
[14:43] <missphinx> I'm just thinking about what I'd do in her place :)
[14:43] * Xuratu is somewhat heartbroken.
[14:44] <xnbomb> original baudot was a 5-bit code ... hmm
[14:44] <celina63> Dia, page HHM and tell her what happened
[14:44] <Diandra> i'm on the phone with her
[14:44] <nawoR> my baby!!!
[14:44] <Diandra> what does she need to know
[14:44] <nawoR> someone needs to get ahold of nisha
[14:44] <enaxor> someone has to tell Nisha about Ian
[14:44] * Xuratu will cry over Virgil while nawoR cries over Ian. :(
[14:44] <Xuratu> Nobody wins!
[14:44] <celina63> Ian was at Virgil's house and was caught
[14:44] <missphinx> Ian is indisposed at Virgil's place
[14:45] <nawoR> virgil is sooooo lucky i'm not gonna be there tomorrow
[14:45] <xnbomb> who does Nisha actually accept mail from ... hhm
[14:45] <missphinx> however if she's close she should continue on - Will could be there? something could be there?
[14:45] <enaxor> remeber roger likes to play with knives
[14:45] <Xuratu> Nisha *has* accepted e-mail from me. .
[14:45] <nawoR> she has to save him!
[14:45] <celina63> xn, you're right... G5
[14:45] <missphinx> Nisha accepts mail from HHM
[14:45] <xnbomb> well ... go to it Xuratu
[14:45] <enaxor> tell her to see if will star is regiestered
[14:45] <Diandra> Nisha is due to call HHM in a couple hours...she's not supposed to be at the hotel until after 3pm (pacific)
[14:45] <missphinx> Oh.
[14:46] <missphinx> But she was going now?
[14:46] <missphinx> sigh.
[14:48] * Xuratu fired one off to Nisha.
[14:49] <nawoR> ok - i updated the forums
[14:49] <nawoR> want me to do sa3 as well?
[14:49] <missphinx> sure if you're in the mood
[14:49] <nawoR> ok
[14:50] <celina63> is there any way to get in touch with Will?
[14:50] <celina63> he's supposed to have Ian's back
[14:51] <xnbomb> slacker DJ ... probably record shopping
[14:51] <enaxor> that's why I thought HHM should see if will is registered at hotel
[14:51] <missphinx> He doesn't have his email linked on his forum - and I doubt he's reading pms
[14:51] <missphinx> I think HHM needs to wait until she hears from Nisha.
[14:51] <celina63> his email is on his site, but not sure out IG it is
[14:51] <xnbomb> nice house BTW, Virgil
[14:52] <celina63> yeah, it's pretty sweet
[14:52] <celina63> should have the party THERE, lol
[14:52] <celina63> that way *we* could hack the computer
[14:52] <celina63> haha
[14:53] <Diandra> okay...done talking with HHM
[14:53] <Diandra> here's the plan
[14:53] <Diandra> she's gonna head up toward Santa Monica after lunch to wait for Nisha's call
[14:54] <Diandra> that way she'll be in the area if she has to be somewhere immediately
[14:54] <Diandra> she will call me when she hears from Nisha
[14:54] <Xuratu> Sounds good.
[14:54] <missphinx> Good!
[14:54] <Diandra> so I can let you guys know what's up
[14:54] <Diandra> then she'll call me as she can
[14:54] <Diandra> I will let her know about anything new
[14:54] <celina63> meanwhile, we should get cracking on that file
[14:54] <celina63> since Ian won't be able too  :-(
[14:55] <celina63> we can tell her who Arclight is!
[14:55] <enaxor> sounds good
[14:55] <missphinx> We should post in the puzzles section on sd3 - was that what you were going to do, Rowan?
[14:55] <nawoR> i posted in the main section
[14:56] <Diandra> sd3? or sa3?
[14:56] <nawoR> i'll also post in puzzles
[14:56] <missphinx> sa3 - sorry
[14:56] <missphinx> Nice post about the pig, Rowan :)
[14:56] <nawoR> heh
[14:56] <xnbomb> im working on it ... original baudot should be 5-bit, so I'm a little confused
[14:59] <celina63> isn't "@~" an "emoticon" for a rose?
[14:59] <celina63> just struck me like that  :-)
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[14:59] <strifey> Yay, Ian got puncheded
[15:00] <Diandra> huh?
[15:00] <strifey> oh sorry, wanted to tease nawoR
[15:00] * strifey was kicked by nawoR (BASTARD)
[15:00] <xnbomb> nice
[15:00] <nawoR> :)
[15:00] <missphinx> whoa :)
[15:00] <missphinx> mod power!
[15:00] <nawoR> hehehe
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[15:00] <celina63> HAHAHA
[15:00] <strifey> <3
[15:01] * nawoR hands strifey a cookie
[15:01] <celina63> ok, so @~ doesn't open anything
[15:01] <nawoR> well, i'm guessing it refers to the fact that ian emailed nisha
[15:02] * strifey punches Ian too :-p
[15:02] <strifey> Whens the last party thing
[15:02] <celina63> tomorrow night
[15:02] <missphinx> There's some rather confusing information out there about Baudot codes...
[15:03] <celina63> where does it say "original baudot"?
[15:03] <xnbomb> i'm assuming they are serious about original baudot and not murray
[15:03] <enaxor> Rowan, I keep having to delete my posts
[15:03] <xnbomb> the long binary string in ktg07
[15:03] <nawoR> if you decode the long binary in the ktg text
[15:03] <nawoR> lol sowwy!
[15:03] <celina63> oh ok
[15:03] <enaxor> lol
[15:03] <missphinx> yeah, I would guess, xnbomb
[15:03] <celina63> I don't have a kgb thing so have never seen any of those
[15:04] <missphinx> seen any of what?
[15:04] <nawoR> ktg is text
[15:04] <xnbomb> they're not in kgb
[15:04] <celina63> oh wait... the long one says the short one is original baudot
[15:04] <celina63> I gotcha
[15:04] <missphinx> kgb's have resulted in pictures
[15:04] <xnbomb> presumably yes ... I'll try both orders and reversing the bits I suppose ... so far its garbled nonsense
[15:06] <xnbomb> thats working with a single ktg and taking each 5 bits as a letter
[15:06] <xnbomb> i suppose i should assume all seven must be used together
[15:07] <Xuratu> Virgil's so cool in the easter egg.
[15:07] <nawoR> i think it would be a safe bet
[15:07] <nawoR> virgil is an ass in the easter egg :)
[15:07] <missphinx> do you have an automatic decoder thing, xnbomb?
[15:07] <xnbomb> no, just scratching it out
[15:07] <nawoR> it looks like ian has gotten some sun - his face is all red
[15:08] <Xuratu> Maybe that's his impending dea--
[15:08] <xnbomb> maybe I should write one ... this is tedious and error prone
[15:08] <nawoR> hey!
[15:08] * Xuratu holds up a Virgil mask to defend herself.
[15:08] <missphinx> I found a table of the numbers and was hoping you weren't doing it by hand
[15:08] <missphinx> I saw a perl script somewhere too
[15:09] <xnbomb> reading downwards, the first char looks to be a / which is perhaps encouraging
[15:09] <enaxor> is this what we should be using?  http://home.austin.rr.com/kinghome/signpage/baudot.html
[15:09] <nawoR> and you know what - that color just isn't flattering to Trent
[15:09] <nawoR> who the hell wears pink anyway?
[15:09] <missphinx> pimps
[15:10] <nawoR> he's supposed to be a thug, not a pimp
[15:10] <Xuratu> Prettyboys. 
[15:10] <xnbomb> not sure if that is murray or original ... they are very similar
[15:10] <Xuratu> And Trent isn't pretty enough for pink. Don't get me wrong, he seems like he'd be a charming young man in the proper setting, but pink just isn't for him.
[15:11] <celina63> I've tried decoding by hand, and I get YOURSTLP
[15:12] <strifey> What are we string to decode?
[15:12] <xnbomb> which way are you going and which version are you using?
[15:12] <strifey> er, trying?
[15:12] <celina63> I was using this table: http://rabbit.eng.miami.edu/info/baudot.html
[15:12] <celina63> and sadly didn't notice which way I was going  :-)  I'll redo
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[15:12] <xnbomb> me too ... original at the bottom?
[15:13] <nawoR> 1010100011111000101010100100000100110110 ktg07
[15:13] <nawoR> oops
[15:13] <celina63> no, I was using the first table
[15:13] <nawoR> not what i wanted to do
[15:13] <nawoR> http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=170640#170640
[15:13] <nawoR> strifey - that has all 7 codes
[15:13] <celina63> I'll try again with Original (duh)
[15:13] <xnbomb> no, I like yours better :-)
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[15:14] <celina63> some are the same forward and backward
[15:15] <xnbomb> baudot palindromes
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[15:17] <xnbomb> so many ways to generate gibberish
[15:18] <strifey> I dont get it
[15:18] <missphinx> I'm looking more for decoders but just see tty stuff
[15:19] <celina63> it also has to be Common (rather than reverse) because there is no 10100 in Revers
[15:19] <celina63> +e
[15:19] <xnbomb> we have 7x40, so we do have a total number of bits divisible by 5
[15:19] <celina63> at least, not in original
[15:20] <xnbomb> sure there is ... its a -
[15:21] <missphinx> U?
[15:21] <xnbomb> on the reverse side sphinx
[15:21] <celina63> xn, a "-" in reverse is 11001, not 10100
[15:22] <celina63> or, I'm reading this table ALL wrong
[15:22] * missphinx nods slowly :)
[15:22] <xnbomb> thats in figs, not ltrs
[15:22] <celina63> but we haven't recieved a key to flip from letters to numbers
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[15:22] <nawoR> how about this page? http://groups.msn.com/ctoseadogs/baudotcode1.msnw
[15:22] <celina63> the Common has an "End" shift
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[15:24] <xnbomb> well, anyhow ... all 32 possible combos are in all sets, since they are numbered 0-31
[15:25] <chippy> strangeness in #uf
[15:25] <missphinx> what kind of strange?
[15:26] * catherwork /joins strange
[15:26] <chippy> nothing really
[15:26] <strifey> Strange for a chatroom that centers around BBQ and boobs?
[15:26] <xnbomb> flippin' idiots
[15:26] <enaxor> the key to flip from numbers to letters is encoded, isn't it
[15:27] <chippy> i know strifey...
[15:27] <xnbomb> yes enaxor
[15:27] <xnbomb> they think mysteryjones is some character just because he has jones in his name ... *sigh*
[15:28] <missphinx> Yes, just like you're a bomb because you have bomb in your name.
[15:28] <strifey> he's been around forever
[15:28] <catherwork> and were they on his case for chatting as a character?
[15:29] <nawoR> are we placing the ktg codes one op top of the other and reading down?
[15:29] <xnbomb> and if we do, do we  use six or seven of them ... lots of variables
[15:29] <nawoR> or are we still guessing
[15:29] <missphinx> can't go down because there are more than 5 now, right?
[15:29] <xnbomb> until we get it produce something other than gibberish, we are guessing
[15:30] <nawoR> well, unles you went up to the next line
[15:30] <xnbomb> unless you wrap around, which I agree would be dumb
[15:30] <strifey> its 7x40?
[15:30] <xnbomb> yeah
[15:30] <nawoR> which code was was the coachella one?
[15:30] <missphinx> last
[15:30] <nawoR> no, the original coachella
[15:30] <xnbomb> i guess we're calling it the seventh line
[15:30] <nawoR> nisha supposedly 'got' the coachella card from gunter
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[15:30] <xnbomb> oh boy ... we can swtich some around ... more variables
[15:31] <missphinx> Todd's got "retrieved" info on his SD threads
[15:32] <missphinx> SD3 was from Washington DC - that's the Gunter one?
[15:32] <nawoR> i believe so
[15:34] * celina63 's head asplode from baudot
[15:34] <xnbomb> yeah, I'm thinking of writing software since there are so many ways to try it, and it is so annoying to do by hand
[15:35] <celina63> here's what's confusing me
[15:35] <celina63> Common has an END shift
[15:35] <celina63> Reverse has a LTRS shift
[15:35] <celina63> so cool, in Reverse with numbers until the letters shift, then BZ
[15:35] <celina63> but... the first "number" is (nat), which means depends on the nationality
[15:35] <celina63> ::: head asplode :::
[15:36] <strifey> Why can't these people use RSA like normal folk
[15:36] <xnbomb> it really should be 'original, common order'
[15:36] <missphinx> they said "original"
[15:36] <xnbomb> the only question in my mind is if we need to reverse the bits
[15:36] <celina63> but with common, what would we do with the END shift?
[15:36] <celina63> that means the END of the transmission
[15:36] <xnbomb> hopefully we won't across one if we are reading it correctly
[15:37] <celina63> unless it's two different passwords or something
[15:37] <xnbomb> +run
[15:37] <xnbomb> does ktg7 stand on its own, or do we use them all together?
[15:37] <missphinx> <-- probably couldn't help much on a weekend, certainly can't now
[15:38] <enaxor> http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=170654#170654
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[15:38] <catherwork> "free your mind"?
[15:38] <nawoR> nice job nhasarnd
[15:39] <celina63> that last one was what I almost came up with
[15:39] <celina63> but that was using revised
[15:39] <strifey> first one is Illusion
[15:40] <missphinx> yay for nick
[15:40] <nawoR> but what the hell does it mean? :)
[15:40] <strifey> not cllusion, but yay him
[15:40] <catherwork> artifice was a password somewhere?
[15:40] <Diandra> one of the Virgil directories
[15:40] <missphinx> http://deaddrop.us/wiki/index.php/EvilCube
[15:40] <nawoR> gunter:artifice was an error code login
[15:40] <xnbomb> yeah, that's Murray, Reversed ... dinks!
[15:40] <Diandra> from the cube
[15:40] <nawoR> lol xnbomb
[15:41] <celina63> dammit
[15:41] <missphinx> so it's not original baudot?
[15:41] <xnbomb> no
[15:41] <missphinx> f that s
[15:41] <celina63> well, "yourself" doesn't decode arclight.jpg
[15:41] <celina63> might work on the .kgb
[15:41] <missphinx> did the original code work as a pass?
[15:41] <celina63> no
[15:41] <celina63> it was garbage
[15:42] <catherwork> the only unopened directory now is /console/, right?
[15:42] <missphinx> yes
[15:42] <nawoR> yes
[15:42] <strifey> im confused :-/
[15:42] <enaxor> me too
[15:42] <enaxor> yourself might work with console
[15:42] <celina63> I don't think these are /console passwords
[15:43] <nawoR> none of those work on the kgb
[15:43] <catherwork> just something within the last SD batch, then
[15:43] * catherwork has no idea what is left to be solved
[15:43] <xnbomb> nick's wrong about the C too, it is an I at the beginning
[15:44] <celina63> yeah
[15:44] <celina63> cath, /console, and the files we just got from Ian
[15:44] <celina63> (from Virgil's machine)
[15:44] <catherwork> "just" got, as in today?
[15:44] <celina63> yeah, like an hour ago
[15:44] <catherwork> ooooo, i'm finally caught up!
[15:44] <Diandra> first letters IF ART LY...beginning similar to his post above where he decoded previously
[15:44] <catherwork> and now i have to go back to work! :(
[15:45] <strifey> I Fart?
[15:45] <Diandra> If art
[15:45] <Diandra> lol
[15:45] <Nick_> did i goof one of the decodes?
[15:45] <Diandra> just the first letter
[15:45] <Diandra> Illusion
[15:46] <xnbomb> nice job Nick!
[15:46] <Nick_> fixed the post
[15:46] <missphinx> yes, YAY!
[15:46] <Diandra> but look at your old decode, nick. Starts similarly
[15:46] <Diandra> If art
[15:47] <Diandra> of course we didn't have the entire thing then
[15:47] <Nick_> the i fart decode... but that was 5 bit colums reading down... 
[15:47] <Diandra> right
[15:47] <Nick_> this was just splitting the 40 bit strings l->r every 5 chars.
[15:47] <Diandra> interesting, hmmm?
[15:47] <Nick_> i guess i could try doing colums too to see if it does something, but it seems that would be quite hard to craft
[15:48] <celina63> nick, same here
[15:48] <Diandra> that was before we had the entire message, right?
[15:48] <Nick_> right, that was just ktg 1-5
[15:48] <Diandra> it best not be another cube!
[15:48] <celina63> I came close to "yourself" on the last one we just got, but the long string says to use Original
[15:48] <celina63> however, Original doesn't convert to anything
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[15:49] <clalonde> hey everyone
[15:50] <Nick_> i think it was origional baudot rather than any of the later telegraph codes
[15:50] <strifey> The one you decrypted with was the Murray code
[15:50] <strifey> not Baudot
[15:51] <nawoR> http://groups.msn.com/ctoseadogs/baudotcode1.msnw
[15:51] <xnbomb> or call it Revised Baudot if you'd like
[15:51] <Diandra> so the question is...how does this help us?
[15:51] <nawoR> it matches up with that page
[15:52] <Diandra> what are we doing with these words?
[15:52] <xnbomb> well, water under the bridge
[15:52] <Diandra> illusion, fragment, etc.
[15:52] <celina63> reminds me of A.I.  :-)
[15:52] <celina63> the seven program words
[15:53] <Diandra> yes celina?
[15:53] <celina63> I always thought the files on the SD cards were used to decode the other files on the SD cards
[15:53] <celina63> and never the twain shall meet
[15:53] <missphinx> except for the ktg were never used for that
[15:53] <Diandra> so now what?
[15:53] <Diandra> anybody ?
[15:54] <nawoR> well - these ktg things have to be for something
[15:54] <nawoR> otherwise - why put the 7th in with the key to decode it
[15:54] <Diandra> that's what i mean : )
[15:54] <Diandra> what are we missing?
[15:54] <nawoR> we have the 2 files on the new coachella that have *no* puzzles for us
[15:54] <celina63> grrr, something *has* to open that arclight picture
[15:54] <xnbomb> i assume they open the new files somehow
[15:55] <nawoR> none of the words open up the kgb
[15:55] <Nick_> i had always assumed that the ktg's would be something together... like the grand "drink your ovaltine" solve... but the answer doesn't seem all that interesting thus far
[15:55] <missphinx> I looked for "If art" in the hidden virgil files but ddin't see anything
[15:55] <Diandra> they are all 8 letter words
[15:55] <Diandra> grid time
[15:56] <missphinx> Go Diandra
[15:56] * catherwork asks about CyberGosse entering Virgils house??
[15:56] <catherwork> no the other way around?
[15:56] <xnbomb> you mean Ian?
[15:56] <catherwork> DJH4X: about to go in virgil's de-luxe home 
[15:56] <catherwork> yeah, i'm still lagging a bit
[15:57] <catherwork> maybe i should go read some update threads
[15:57] <missphinx> go for the link in the irc file
[15:57] <nawoR> theres an easteregg in that chat cath
[15:57] <nawoR> answers some question
[15:57] <nawoR> poses others
[15:57] * catherwork watches the clock run out on lunch break
[15:57] <nawoR> ok - we still haven't finished with SD 6 yet, have we?
[15:58] <nawoR> maybe there's something in the files we haven't  unlocked that will help us
[15:58] <xnbomb> now, I've been grinding away at the three remaining puzzles, unsuccessfully
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[15:58] <nawoR> hey dash
[15:58] <dashcat> Hey Rowan
[15:58] <clalonde> as have I - there doesn't seem to be any intstructions on the 3 remaining in SD6
[15:59] <enaxor> Dash!
[15:59] <dashcat> Ex!
[15:59] <xnbomb> clalonde, prsnttn one look like they should be easy ... 12 letter song names, times to select letters ... but ... ?
[15:59] <xnbomb> 48 elements suggest maybe binary ... for a six char key
[15:59] <missphinx> and homework and sciencework should mean something
[16:00] <xnbomb> the plants in homework ... name lengths or common name something?
[16:00] <dashcat> My kremlin free trial has run out and doesn't work anymore
[16:00] <xnbomb> there are three unlocked files left, so they either each stand on their own, or one yields two passwords
[16:00] <xnbomb> it probably will still decode dash, mine does
[16:01] <dashcat> I tried it and it doesn't
[16:01] <xnbomb> hmm
[16:02] <clalonde> xn -  I know I've played with that a lot, I tried rearranging in regards to length of time, tried anagrams, etc. no luck - I also tried numeras math combos w/ the periodic table/melting points one, as well as checking to see whether the elements could be used to spell out any of the words in the plants/presentation files w/o luck
[16:02] <catherwork> Rowan, pm me, please
[16:03] <xnbomb> i tried an even/odd code on atomic numbers for binary
[16:03] <xnbomb> no dice
[16:03] <clalonde> one thing that caught my eye on the plants was that a new user on the A3 forums indicated that the first plant is the only non North American - in their first post - it seemed to scream PM to me, but it didn't help me much
[16:04] <xnbomb> ooh, interesting
[16:04] <missphinx> Yeah. That plant does somewhat stick out.
[16:04] <missphinx> however so did calochortus coeruleus - I couldn't find a common name
[16:05] <enaxor> xnbomb did you use the melting points for binary?
[16:05] <xnbomb> what was that first one ... the split-leaf Germanium
[16:05] <clalonde> see the post here: http://forum.stolena3.com/index.php?showtopic=152
[16:05] <clalonde> very last post by iwants6
[16:05] <missphinx> geranium - although pelargonium is a plant name itself
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[16:05] <xnbomb> sorry geranium ... now I mixing elements and plants
[16:06] <missphinx> maybe we should
[16:06] <xnbomb> yeah
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[16:07] <xnbomb> argon is in pelargonium
[16:07] <xnbomb> but ... thats about it for that
[16:07] <catherwork> calochortus is a star-tulip (and my brain says Will Star)
[16:08] <Nick_> i just checked to see if reading off the 7 bit colums for the KTG's as 7-bit ascii would get us anything and the first 5 chars are 1Za(: so i'm guessing that's not the right direction
[16:08] <missphinx> but it's a specific calochortus
[16:08] <xnbomb> a blue one apparently
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[16:09] <j5> wow, 33 people
[16:09] <catherwork> Calochortus coeruleus = Blue Star-tulip http://elib.cs.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?stat=BROWSE_IMG&query_src=photos_browseimgs_plant_sci&where-genre=Plant&where-taxon=Calochortus+coeruleus
[16:09] <enaxor> wb j5
[16:09] <j5> ty
[16:09] <j5> sounds like a solve in progress
[16:09] <missphinx> oh yay - thanks cather
[16:09] <missphinx> how did I not see that?
[16:09] <catherwork> anytime
[16:09] <Nick_> changing the LSB-MSB bit order gave F-C P so that looks no good either.
[16:09] <catherwork> need any others?
[16:10] <nawoR> j5 - new easteregg at ians
[16:10] <j5> cool
[16:10] <enaxor> so they are all flowering plants?
[16:10] <celina63> and email from "Virgil" to Nisha
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[16:11] <Nick_> another virgil e-mail?
[16:12] <missphinx> blue star tulip OR beavertail grass
[16:12] <enaxor> we had the flower movie in an earlier sd card
[16:12] <celina63> Nick, not exactly.  Watch the easter egg
[16:13] <xnbomb> yeah, loads of flower references ... someone was a trained botanist or something
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[16:13] <celina63> big 'un
[16:13] <celina63> woah
[16:14] <j5> woohoo
[16:14] <celina63> welcome back everyone
[16:14] <Nick_> that was fun
[16:14] <celina63> wild ride!
[16:14] <xnbomb> frig
[16:14] <missphinx> is SI the netsplit detector or a person?
[16:14] <ScrappyStudyingBlah> a person with a script, it looks like
[16:14] <missphinx> ah...
[16:14] <missphinx> nm
[16:15] <celina63> SI is a player
[16:18] <j5> what does the binary convert to on the lates EE?
[16:18] <j5> latest
[16:19] <missphinx> which binary? the ktg?
[16:19] <j5> no, in the filename
[16:19] <nawoR> @`
[16:19] <celina63> the long string converts to "original baudot"
[16:19] <nawoR> err
[16:19] <celina63> oh
[16:19] <nawoR> @~
[16:20] <j5> tyvm
[16:20] <celina63> latest EE?
[16:20] <j5> updating my post
[16:20] <missphinx> easter egg
[16:21] <celina63> ah
[16:21] <missphinx> j5spk
[16:21] <j5> :)
[16:21] <celina63> sorry, my brain hurts
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[16:22] <celina63> well, one thing... the Coachella 5 should feel better
[16:22] <j5> 30 minutes to beer :)
[16:22] <celina63> seems like it was planned for them to have not been able to retrieve that SD card at the time
[16:22] <j5> ah
[16:23] <xnbomb> or a clever rewrite, either way
[16:23] <celina63> or else we would have known who arclight is back then
[16:23] <celina63> however, we still don't know, and it's TAUNTING ME
[16:23] <missphinx> well, we haven't seen the file yet
[16:23] <xnbomb> well ... i don't really believe there was a card with ktg07 in that audi then
[16:23] <missphinx> It could be a balloon drawing :)
[16:23] <j5> true
[16:23] <celina63> "yooo hooo... pic of arclight here... but yer too DUMB to look at it, HAHAHA"
[16:24] <enaxor> it appears all the plants have flowers with the possible exception of the elm
[16:24] <missphinx> I take it you're still not getting your pm's answered, celina :D
[16:24] <celina63> NO
[16:24] <celina63> everyone hates me
[16:24] <xnbomb> we don't hate you :-)
[16:24] <Xuratu> PROTIP: When planning a heist, don't put a picture of your smiling mug on the plans. 
[16:25] <Nick_> that's ok. I've sent ian like 6 e-mail messages and he hasn't posted any of them... has he read that last one, he might not be in the spot he's in now.
[16:25] <xnbomb> lol
[16:25] <enaxor> I warned him too
[16:25] <missphinx> We all did.
[16:25] <missphinx> Serves him right if he gets beat up again.
[16:26] <missphinx> I'm back to my "maybe they will all die spectacularly and gorily at the end" theory
[16:26] <j5> you wish :)
[16:26] <celina63> just as long as I don't get any on me
[16:26] <celina63> :-)
[16:26] <celina63> I'll be in my nice work clothes
[16:26] <missphinx> Will probably won't die - you can stand behind him.
[16:26] <xnbomb> how can we possibly tell nisha how we know what happened to Ian and who that email is really from ... we can't
[16:27] <missphinx> well, you could send it as an attachment
[16:27] <missphinx> and say you found it lying around - the easteregg I mean
[16:28] <missphinx> I bet it would go into the blackhole filter though
[16:28] <xnbomb> yeah, someone videoed the whole thing and we got to watch it
[16:28] <missphinx> One could say that Worry sent it.
[16:28] <Xuratu> I just said that we "have reason to believe".
[16:28] <xnbomb> heheh
[16:28] <missphinx> Oh good, you already took care of it.
[16:29] <nawoR> you could say we managed to hack into his video surveillance
[16:29] <Xuratu> Vague means never have to explaining meta loopholes.
[16:29] <xnbomb> actually, any of those do fine
[16:29] <nawoR> and get a good pic of virgil with trent and roger
[16:29] <nawoR> it worked with the goons in the elevator
[16:29] <Xuratu> I'm not sure if she'd believe us.
[16:29] <celina63> so the Easter Eggs are not to be discussed with characters?
[16:29] <missphinx> HHM can tell her on the phone.
[16:29] <celina63> I mean, they know we're in their systems, right?
[16:29] <xnbomb> i suspect she'll be incommunicado til tomorrow night, saves a lot of troubble
[16:29] <nawoR> celina - yes but the easter eggs are for us
[16:30] <xnbomb> and they present certain problems in terms of the game reality
[16:30] <nawoR> since no one is actually following them around in character with a camera
[16:30] <celina63> ok.  That's a "rule of play" I missed  :-)
[16:30] <missphinx> The characters only see what they want to - like sometimes stuff on sa3 is seen, but not usually
[16:30] <celina63> yeah... or if they were, they have some nice camera equipment  :-)
[16:30] <xnbomb> and a crack editing and foley team
[16:30] <nawoR> hehe
[16:30] <nawoR> and someone who can do music on the fly
[16:31] <celina63> Will Star, DJing in the background
[16:31] <missphinx> He was too busy DJing to watch Ian's back.
[16:31] <Diandra> HHM said she was going to report to Nisha that the goons got Ian and ask what the plan is.
[16:32] <xnbomb> geeze, I hope Nisha is ready to hear that if she picks up the phone
[16:32] <celina63> it would be really spectacular if we could crack that arclight pic in time for that
[16:32] <enaxor> I should've had will come through Portland on his way to LA, he could've dj'd for the wedding
[16:32] <celina63> oh hey, that's right! How did that go?
[16:32] <enaxor> great and glad it's over :)
[16:33] <Diandra> well, seeing Virgil with the goons it's pretty obvious he's involved
[16:33] <missphinx> :) congrats enaxor
[16:33] <enaxor> ty
[16:33] <clalonde> well, the other possibility is that Emile sent the goons over to help virgil
[16:33] <clalonde> after all he's been watching him
[16:33] <celina63> that was my thought
[16:33] <xnbomb> yeah, unless there is something very different in arclight.jpg, it doesn't matter much
[16:33] <j5> yes, congrats from me as well, enaxor
[16:33] <missphinx> that's a good possibility
[16:33] <Diandra> i don't know what to do with the decoded words. there are seven of them, so it can't be 8 x 8
[16:34] * nawoR looks at the stupid music puzzle
[16:34] <celina63> oh, I see what your saying
[16:34] <celina63> but, since we can't use the EE as proof, that .jpg might provide it
[16:34] <xnbomb> point
[16:34] <xnbomb> brilliant really
[16:34] <Diandra> i've googles and can't come up with anything
[16:34] <xnbomb> a puzzle with some actual motivation and consequences
[16:35] <nawoR> hehe
[16:35] <nawoR> solve the puzzle - save ian
[16:35] <celina63> don't... AND HE DIES HORRIBLY
[16:35] <celina63> yay, choices
[16:35] <nawoR> *sob*
[16:35] <missphinx> HHM is at 3:00 - so that's about 1 hr 20 minutes
[16:35] * missphinx looks at words
[16:36] * missphinx looks at everything else sitting here
[16:36] <missphinx> Sorry Ian
[16:36] <Nick_> *
[16:36] <j5> hey nick, you know you had the decode all along right?
[16:37] <xnbomb> yeah, i don't like his odds
[16:37] * Diandra slaps j5 around a bit with a large trout
[16:37] * celina63 is still a bit annoyed by the "original baudot"
[16:37] <celina63> BECAUSE IT WASN'T
[16:37] <xnbomb> unless ... it is original baudot in some other direction ... doubtful though
[16:37] <celina63> I tried in both directions
[16:37] <Nick_> J5, but i was just so sure that it was going to be in colums because that's the only way we would have to wait until we had all the files before we could find the solve
[16:37] <Diandra> If art
[16:37] <j5> right dia
[16:37] <xnbomb> second line reading down would be LRR
[16:38] <Diandra> we went thru this in your absence j-5
[16:38] <xnbomb> celina, so did I
[16:38] <j5> well, then don't freaking trout me id I wasn't here :P
[16:38] <j5> if*
[16:38] <nawoR> i dunno - the page i found with original baudot seemed to match up
[16:38] <Nick_> how do you do the fancy little IRC actions?
[16:38] <Diandra> too bad. suck it up
[16:38] <j5> anyway... :)
[16:38] <nawoR> ./me
[16:38] <xnbomb> that page is not original baudot ... read the middle paragraph
[16:39] <xnbomb> well, one of those paragraphs anyhow
[16:39] <missphinx> apparently people get confused with baudot quite often
[16:39] <j5> anyone check for directories?
[16:39] <Diandra> i did
[16:39] <Diandra> none
[16:39] <j5> ty
[16:39] <Diandra> not with those 7 words anyway
[16:39] <Diandra> feel free to try combos for console though
[16:39] <Nick_> i checked vkoc/<word> none worked
[16:40] <nawoR> ok
[16:40] <missphinx> Besides which, Nisha should damn well believe whatever HHM tells her.
[16:40] <Diandra> i mean artifice was in the cube and used to access a directory previously
[16:41] <Diandra> why does everything come back to the freakin' cube?
[16:41] <Nick_> ok and what's up with the snippets of building pictures... Unless one of the unencrypted files has something interesting that was just a bunch of fluff
[16:41] <j5> it haunts us with its evil
[16:41] <missphinx> those building pics bug me too.
[16:41] <xnbomb> it must be shot into the sun
[16:42] * celina63 rigs the launch pad
[16:42] * missphinx readies the straps to hold emile and virgil under the rockets
[16:42] <Nick_> it seems like there are so many unanswered questions with what 30 hours to go?
[16:43] <xnbomb> well, they answered the big one ... unless Virgil simply took Emile's word that the goons are just two security guys
[16:43] <celina63> a fun post-game PM chat this will be  :-)
[16:44] <missphinx> Ignoring stuff like why the building pics were in the files, they could end it pretty easily
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[16:44] <enaxor> could the binary from ktg be used as baudot also
[16:44] <celina63> I don't think so.  Virgil looked *way* comfortable with those guys
[16:45] <Nick_> the "origional baudot" binary?
[16:45] <enaxor> yes
[16:45] <clalonde> right about now Virgil could also look way comfortable in a straight jacket :)
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[16:47] <xnbomb> interesting enaxor ... it is 120 chars, so divisible by eight and five, although making it work for both, seems unlikely to be possible
[16:47] <enaxor> true
[16:47] <Nick_> i'll look really quick
[16:48] <enaxor> just a thought
[16:48] <enaxor> and why are they always in a utility folder and why called ktg
[16:49] <xnbomb> good camouflage?
[16:50] <Nick_> first letters are PQWNDW<FigureShift> so i don't think it's baudot
[16:50] <enaxor> guess not
[16:51] <xnbomb> it was nearly impossible anyhow
[16:51] <j5> king technology group is an encryption company
[16:51] <j5> fwiw
[16:51] <celina63> Utility folder because they are what's used to unencrypt the other files
[16:51] <nawoR> how far did anyone get with the music puzzle in SD 6?
[16:51] <xnbomb> 12 letter song names, times to identify letters?
[16:51] <xnbomb> that's it really
[16:51] <j5> yep
[16:51] <nawoR> ok
[16:51] <j5> got a bunch of consonants
[16:52] <xnbomb> i've tried it six ways and got gibberish each time
[16:52] <clalonde> yup, I also tried playing around with a base5 decode (as I thought that was the theme of the card at first)
[16:52] <xnbomb> there is also the question of whether or not the filename having the vowels removed from presentation means something
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[16:52] <j5> I bet it does
[16:52] <clalonde> I had looked at that a bit, the two e's an a i and o are removed
[16:53] <j5> that's the path I've been trying anyway
[16:53] <j5> right
[16:53] <enaxor> did you try using the times as a 24hr clock?
[16:53] <j5> no
[16:53] <xnbomb> they are all sub 12, but that's a good idea ... how?
[16:53] <nawoR> i've been doing on a 12 hour clock
[16:53] <j5> there are 12 chars per line
[16:53] <enaxor> I'm just throwing out idea
[16:53] <enaxor> s
[16:53] <j5> hmmmm
[16:54] <j5> hour hand, second hand
[16:54] <enaxor> hmm each letter different position
[16:54] <nawoR> ya, but its gibberish
[16:54] <j5> minute hand*
[16:55] <j5> how many do we have again? 8?
[16:55] <nawoR> depending on whether you take the closest letter for the hour hand, you can get a couple of different ones
[16:55] <xnbomb> 8 times, 8 song names
[16:55] <nawoR> yes
[16:55] <nawoR> but nothing i've done makes sense yet
[16:56] <j5> the minutes are increments of 5
[16:57] <nawoR> ya, the minutes aren't hard to map
[16:57] <j5> so, 60/5 ==12
[16:57] <nawoR> its the hours around 9:55 and 11:55
[16:57] <xnbomb> hmm
[16:57] <xnbomb> is a :00 the first char?
[16:57] <j5> I would say, yes
[16:57] <nawoR> if i go in order, and use the closest letter thi sis what i get (h:m) - de ae gd on ty tt ik ts
[16:57] <j5> oh! 0 indexed?
[16:58] <xnbomb> 12, 2, 3, 2, 1, 4, 12, 2
[16:58] <enaxor> and the second to last time is longer as is the second to last song, on the lists
[16:58] <xnbomb> or :00 could be last
[16:58] <nawoR> whats the 12,2,3... from?
[16:58] <j5> I think I did that xnbomb
[16:59] <xnbomb> converting seconds as j5 describes
[16:59] <j5> minutes
[16:59] <xnbomb> yes
[17:00] <j5> I did do that, divided by 5 and used as an index, 00=no letter though
[17:00] <j5> no, wait
[17:00] <nawoR> but if you map it around a clock - something is gonna be at the 00 tho
[17:00] <j5> yes
[17:01] <xnbomb> either first char or last i think
[17:01] <j5> so, wrap each line around
[17:01] <j5> and pick the hour/minute combo
[17:01] <j5> based on minutes/5?
[17:01] <nawoR> i did tht
[17:02] <nawoR> but if its that - i'm doing it wrong
[17:02] <nawoR> wait wait wait
[17:02] <nawoR> hang on
[17:02] <nawoR> fucking phoe
[17:02] <nawoR> shit hang on 2 seconds
[17:02] <j5> lol
[17:03] <missphinx> I see Rowan and I see myself (but with less phones) :)
[17:04] <nawoR> alright - lemme try something on the zip
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[17:04] <nawoR> YES!
[17:04] <nawoR> 'differentstrokes'
[17:04] <j5> woo!
[17:04] <missphinx> !!!!
[17:04] <enaxor> yay!
[17:04] <clalonde> nicely done
[17:04] <j5> kgb?
[17:04] <nawoR> first letter starts on the 1
[17:04] <nawoR> ya, kgb
[17:05] <j5> nice Row
[17:05] <nawoR> i solved one!
[17:05] <missphinx> YAY!!!
[17:05] <clalonde> damn, 8 images post html convert
[17:05] <nawoR> looks like ths heist was costing almost 2mil
[17:06] <j5> wow
[17:06] <nawoR> ok - i just gotta figure out where i messed up on this
[17:06] <nawoR> cuz i first got diffrenestrtokes
[17:06] <nawoR> i'll post as soon as i get a decent explanation
[17:07] <j5> the vowels are the same ones missing
[17:07] <j5> ieeoe
[17:07] <missphinx> :) :) :)
[17:07] <Diandra> damn...i missed stuff
[17:08] <j5> stuff missed you back di
[17:08] <Diandra> argh!
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[17:08] <clalonde> hey anyone notice that Earthcross is one of the suppliers?
[17:08] <Diandra> will someone post whatever happened on UF?
[17:08] <j5> with the solve for music?
[17:08] <xnbomb> dammit
[17:08] <j5> I think that's Rowan's baby
[17:09] <xnbomb> how'd it work?
[17:09] <Diandra> what did it net us?
[17:09] <missphinx> She just got it, give her a couple minutes :)
[17:09] <nawoR> its basically a clock cipher
[17:09] <j5> we got the bill
[17:09] <nawoR> first letter starting at 05
[17:09] <j5> I don't like it
[17:09] <xnbomb> sweet
[17:09] <j5> but ok
[17:09] <nawoR> the bill or the puzzle?
[17:10] <Diandra> are we closer to opening arclight in any way?
[17:10] <xnbomb> one less thing for me stare at
[17:10] <j5> don't think so
[17:10] <j5> dia
[17:10] <Diandra> what a?
[17:10] <xnbomb> nope ... probably from the ktg solve, which we are not anywhere near I don't think
[17:11] <Diandra> so what was all the binary then? I guess i am confused
[17:11] <xnbomb> me too
[17:12] * j5 wonders if Iwill is also in baudot
[17:12] * j5 shudders
[17:13] <missphinx> oh jesus
[17:13] <missphinx> I don't think it would be possible to spell out words and make a picture that detailed at the same time.
[17:13] <j5> sure it would
[17:13] <missphinx> However I have no idea about which I speak.
[17:14] <j5> that site takes any input
[17:14] <j5> there's a site that makes those pics sphinx
[17:14] <missphinx> oh okay
[17:14] <j5> you can do random chars or input a string to make a pic
[17:14] <missphinx> hm.
[17:15] <j5> heading out
[17:15] <j5> GL everyone
[17:15] <xnbomb> it was divisible by 5
[17:15] <missphinx> laters
[17:15] <xnbomb> ack
[17:15] <xnbomb> later j5
[17:15] <celina63> see ya j5
[17:15] <missphinx> he drops that on us, then leaves :)
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[17:15] <celina63> haha
[17:15] <nawoR> ahh, i see what i did
[17:16] <nawoR> i got a little too exicited when i was converting my letters
[17:16] * nawoR goes to write up her post
[17:16] <celina63> so, what got solved while I was pretending to work?
[17:16] * xnbomb feels foolish for not taking note of minutes divisible by 5
[17:17] <enaxor> so the only two things left for pw's are the homework docs?
[17:17] <nawoR> as soon as i realized that all the songs had 12 letters - i figured it had to be some sort of clock code
[17:17] <xnbomb> well, yes ... but the minutes, not the hours
[17:18] <xnbomb> ack
[17:19] <nawoR> you actually do minutes:hours
[17:19] <xnbomb> oh okay, even better
[17:20] <Nick_> another building pic
[17:20] <missphinx>  does it shed any light on previous building pics?
[17:21] <Nick_> nor really
[17:21] <Nick_> not
[17:21] <clalonde> it just looks like two more pieces of the same building
[17:21] <missphinx> maybe it's a building in LA or SD instead of Italy (where I was looking)
[17:21] <celina63> do we have a compiled picture?
[17:21] <Nick_> anyone want to p-shop that into the rest of the collection?
[17:22] <celina63> if it's in SD I may recognize it
[17:22] <missphinx> somebody compiled some of them somewhere
[17:22] <Nick_> i think todd has all the other parts posted as one image, so this one should drop right in.
[17:22] <missphinx> one here - http://forum.stolena3.com/index.php?showtopic=76&st=15
[17:23] <celina63> yeah, that's just like 3 of them
[17:23] <celina63> I've seen one where there are ALOT
[17:25] <celina63> ok, I was wrong.
[17:25] <celina63> there are some pasted together under "The Big Picture" but it's not ALL of them
[17:25] <clalonde> image003.jpg would fit nicely on the left hand side, I'm not sure where image004.jpg would go but we're still missing a bit chunk of the bottom right of the image
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[17:26] <clalonde> might we still need SD8?
[17:27] * xnbomb looks towards the heavens
[17:27] <Nick_> we still have a few more encrypted files
[17:27] <clalonde> true - maybe they're in teh ppics
[17:27] <missphinx> I mean, it doesn't seem like having the whole building would be that useful?
[17:27] <missphinx> unless it's the part with the name of the building
[17:27] <clalonde> unless there is a sign indicating an name
[17:28] <celina63> I've been trying to find a pic of the Uffizi
[17:28] <clalonde> exactly
[17:28] <celina63> but I'm more wondering if it isn't the warehouse or storage area in San Diego that is holding the paintings
[17:28] <Nick_> is it the hotel that the party is at?
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[17:29] <nawoR> http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=170679#170679
[17:29] <celina63> Nick, don't think so
[17:29] * nawoR goes to post to sa3
[17:30] <celina63> looking at this pic: http://www.vacationidea.com/florence/gallery/uffizi_Gallery2.html and comparing to one of the snippets here: http://forum.stolena3.com/index.php?showtopic=75
[17:30] <celina63> it *could* be the Uffizi
[17:30] <nawoR> ooh - todd updated the front page again
[17:30] <missphinx> yes
[17:30] <missphinx> there's your sunburnt baby
[17:31] <nawoR> someone should give him some sunscreen
[17:31] <celina63> lol
[17:31] <celina63> ah... so does this make the EE "in game" enough to tell Nisha about it?
[17:31] <xnbomb> heh
[17:31] <nawoR> todd always mentions the easter eggs
[17:32] <nawoR> you can try - hard to say what she'll do tho
[17:32] <missphinx> HHM is talking to her in ... 25 minutes - we'll see what the answer is
[17:32] <celina63> yeah
[17:32] <celina63> damn
[17:32] <clalonde> argh, gotta run - and just when lots of good stuff is going down - ttyl
[17:32] <clalonde> bye
[17:32] <celina63> see ya
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[17:33] <Nick_> it doesn't appear that any combo of the KTG words are the u/p for console
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[17:35] <tomtom> Oh..Its been so long..
[17:35] <celina63> so what is in expenses.kgb?
[17:36] <celina63> just another piece of the building?
[17:36] <missphinx> I think she said something about $2 million
[17:36] <tomtom> What did I miss?
[17:36] <tomtom> \
[17:37] <missphinx> a solve from SD6
[17:37] <celina63> tomtom, some serious stuff
[17:37] <celina63> I'd hit the forums, easier
[17:37] <missphinx> when did you last check, tomtom?
[17:37] <nawoR> on the 3rd page it gives the total for how much the heist was costing
[17:37] <nawoR> ok - maybe not $2mil
[17:37] <celina63> oh hi Rowan, thought you'd run away  :-)
[17:37] <nawoR> more like $1.2
[17:37] <tomtom> I'll go check
[17:37] <nawoR> i read it wrong
[17:37] <missphinx> that's all?
[17:37] <nawoR> no - i was posting
[17:37] <missphinx> that's cheap!
[17:37] <xnbomb> differentstrokes ... heh
[17:38] <nawoR> gunter was supposed to get 70k
[17:38] <nawoR> poor gunter
[17:38] <xnbomb> geeze, he needs to learn to negotiate better ... well, too late now
[17:38] <nawoR> wilfred was getting 68k
[17:38] <tomtom> Was Virgil's party today or tomorrow?
[17:38] <missphinx> tomorrow, tomtom
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[17:40] <xnbomb> and trent $32000, come on?!
[17:41] <nawoR> roger doesnt get as much as trent
[17:41] <nawoR> hehe
[17:41] <xnbomb> i total cost of $1.3 M is a bargrain really
[17:41] <missphinx> I guess Virgil has never been known for treating his employees well or fairly.
[17:41] <nawoR> how sad - i dont know who wilfred is
[17:41] <nawoR> i suppose i could go look it up
[17:41] <nawoR> but i'm lazy
[17:42] <missphinx> You've done enough for one day, Rowan. Kick your feet up and relax.
[17:42] <celina63> Wilfred is just a name
[17:42] <celina63> one of the people involved in the heist
[17:42] <nawoR> ya - but why's he getting so much?
[17:42] <nawoR> he's getting more than erdleman
[17:43] <missphinx> his looks ain't it - http://www.stolena3.com/archives/Wilfred_S.jpg
[17:43] <celina63> Wilfred is the coordinator for the team
[17:43] <nawoR> ahh ok
[17:43] <nawoR> thanks
[17:43] <missphinx> http://www.stolena3.com/archives/SD4sixxsix_page2.jpg
[17:43] <celina63> as noted in the SD5 file Jobs_pg1.jpg
[17:44] <xnbomb> and he can get up on a roof ... that's got to be worth something
[17:44] * missphinx nods at xnbomb
[17:44] <celina63> lol
[17:44] <missphinx> Trent wears the pink but can't climb a ladder worth beans
[17:45] <xnbomb> lol
[17:45] <xnbomb> he throws a decent right though
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[17:45] <missphinx> It's his fear of heights. He's fine as long as he doesn't get more than a few feet off the ground.
[17:45] <celina63> has anyone tried the ktg file solves on ppics.zip, or ppics2.kgb?
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[17:46] <xnbomb> j5 said he tried them
[17:46] <nawoR> we've solved all the ktg files
[17:46] <tomtom> So..what is http://www.wonderweasels.org/heist/darkplace/images/ about?
[17:46] <nawoR> oh - nevermind iread that wrong
[17:46] <tomtom> Where did that come from?
[17:46] <nawoR> from darkplace
[17:46] <celina63> tomtom, from /darkplace
[17:46] <nawoR> hence the url name
[17:46] <celina63> lol
[17:46] <tomtom> Wait..What?!
[17:46] <missphinx> http://virgilkingofcode.com/darkplace
[17:47] <tomtom> Ahah
[17:47] <celina63> damn.  Doesn't make sense that the ktg file solves wouldn't work on stuff on the card
[17:47] <missphinx> username: hidden password: secrets
[17:47] <tomtom> Thanks
[17:47] <missphinx> have fun :)
[17:47] <celina63> turn your sound down before opening  :-)
[17:47] <xnbomb> yeah
[17:47] <xnbomb> they have to somehow, we need to do something with them
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[17:52] <tomtom> What is going on with that? Virgil is weird. >.<
[17:52] * xnbomb gives tomtom the understatement of the year award
[17:53] <celina63> HAHA
[17:53] <celina63> no doubt
[17:53] <tomtom> I would like to thank Vir...Wait...Is that good?
[17:53] <xnbomb> can be, it's not bad
[17:55] <celina63> HHM call with Nisha in approx. 2 min
[17:56] * xnbomb puts on his thinking cap and hopes for a miraculous idea
[17:56] <Xur[a]tu> Go Go HHM! Dance Dance Dance!!
[17:56] <Xur[a]tu> 1UP!
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[17:57] <tomtom> HHM?
[17:57] <xnbomb> nah, whatever it is, its going to take us a little longer
[17:58] <dashcat> Ok I just tried using differentstrokes in the Kremlin box and the file just won't open
[17:59] <xnbomb> bummer ... it is right / does work
[18:00] <xnbomb> just tried 'original baudot' in insurance.zip, just in case
[18:00] <nawoR> on expenses.kgb dash?
[18:00] <dashcat> I know but my Kremlin expired and I can't open the ktg encrypted files anymore
[18:00] <dashcat> Aye Rowan
[18:00] <nawoR> mine has expired and i can open it
[18:01] <dashcat> Kgb I meant
[18:01] <nawoR> did you try uninstalling and reinstalling?
[18:01] <dashcat> Well that isn't fair 
[18:01] <dashcat> hehe
[18:01] <dashcat> Yes I did
[18:02] <nawoR> i dunno - i've had mine since the beginning so its well passed expired, yet i can still use it
[18:02] <celina63> tomtom, HHM == HitsHerMark
[18:02] <celina63> on location at Nisha's request
[18:02] <nawoR> lot of good it'll do her
[18:02] <chippy> yay for more easter eggs!
[18:02] <nawoR> since ian is now dangliing by his ankles over an alligator pit
[18:02] * celina63 thinks it would be way too funny if HHM ended up being a PM
[18:02] <xnbomb> i'd bet on trunk of car, maybe even an A3
[18:03] <nawoR> it does have a lot of trunk space
[18:03] <xnbomb> but frankly, that big black thing they drive would be more comfortable
[18:04] <nawoR> ok - i'm off
[18:04] <nawoR> i'll play with the homework stuff when i get home
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[18:04] * missphinx checks Wil''s board - nada
[18:06] <celina63> has anything been done with sciencework.txt?
[18:07] <xnbomb> nothing fruitful, but we have noticed some things
[18:07] <xnbomb> 48 elements suggests it could be binary
[18:07] <celina63> I was looking to see if homework.txt could be "mapped" to sciencework.txt
[18:07] <xnbomb> the elements seem clustered by common name (i.e. Au beside some Gs, AR in the midst of Ss etc.)
[18:08] <celina63> but doesn't seem so
[18:08] <xnbomb> only difficulty there is we have two files left
[18:08] <xnbomb> i think we need each of sciencework and homework for ppics.zip and ppics2.kgb
[18:08] <xnbomb> so I'm operating on the notion they stand on their own
[18:09] <celina63> ok
[18:09] <celina63> switching gears slightly... what was in the Coachella journal file?
[18:09] <celina63> is that the building pic?
[18:09] <xnbomb> er, I may have missed that ... did we get it open, and how?
[18:10] <celina63> maybe we didn't...
[18:10] <celina63> I guess j5 tried opening it with "yourself" but it didn't wokr
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[18:10] <celina63> work, either
[18:11] <celina63> wb Scraps
[18:11] <xnbomb> i was out of the room for maybe 2 minutes, and when I came back Rowan had solved the clock code and clalonde was talking about building fragments
[18:11] <missphinx> c'mon Todd, post the files for us non-kremlin people
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[18:11] <ScrappyDoo> yo yo
[18:12] <celina63> well, Rowan's solve opened up a file on SD6
[18:12] <xnbomb> yup, got that
[18:12] <missphinx> she maybe said something about more than one image in it
[18:12] <celina63> it doesn't make sense to me that any of the files on SD6 would do anything for the Coachella files, since they were *supposed* to be recovered prior to SD6
[18:12] <celina63> so it must stand alone somehow
[18:13] <missphinx> she must have got journal
[18:13] <Nick_> i posted expenses.doc to UF for the kremlin-chalanged
[18:13] <celina63> thanks Nick
[18:13] <Nick_> +l
[18:13] <missphinx> nm it was SD6 - I am confuzed
[18:13] <xnbomb> heh, I was just uploading :-)
[18:13] <celina63> it is confuzelling
[18:13] <xnbomb> but that's better
[18:13] <dashcat> Thanks for the files
[18:14] <xnbomb> no the coachella files really need to come from the .ktg solve
[18:14] <celina63> and clalonde figured out the ktg files
[18:14] <xnbomb> but, I see your point
[18:14] <xnbomb> it makes no sense to think the arclight.jpg was on the coachella SD card
[18:15] <celina63> unless it's NOT a pic of arclight
[18:15] <celina63> just information on said person
[18:15] <celina63> or contact info
[18:15] <missphinx> there are 8 pictures in the doc file
[18:15] <xnbomb> its just called arclight, so yeah, could be anything really
[18:16] <celina63> sphinx, which card?
[18:16] <missphinx> expenses.doc - some of them look like duplicates
[18:16] <missphinx> I saved as html
[18:16] <xnbomb> the two sizes thing again?
[18:17] <Nick_> i think the dup images is an artifact of the resizing the image in word and such. 
[18:17] <missphinx> yeah - so there are really 5...but the tiny one is probably just a placesaver for hiding the building one
[18:18] <xnbomb> ah, the building is in there somewhere ... the header again probably ... OK
[18:19] <missphinx> it looks like it's on the side of one of the expense files - tiny image
[18:19] <missphinx> unless that's just what html-izing it did
[18:20] <celina63> wow, really tiny piece of the building puzzle in there
[18:21] <xnbomb> diandra, any word from HHM?
[18:22] <Diandra> not yet...she's due to call in 35 mins or so
[18:22] <xnbomb> thanks
[18:22] <Diandra> anytime : )
[18:23] <Xuratu> "Dear Nisha Claus: I've been very very very good this year, so for Virgil Day, I want a brand-new Treo. Or at least an Audi. Love, Xu"
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[18:24] <Nick_> me too!
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[18:25] <celina63> lol
[18:25] <Xuratu> XD
[18:26] <ARGonaut> hllo?
[18:26] <xnbomb> hello
[18:26] <ARGonaut> are you a producer?
[18:26] <missphinx> yes.
[18:26] <xnbomb> of what precisely?
[18:26] <ARGonaut> really?
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[18:26] <ARGonaut> a movie producer/
[18:26] <xnbomb> no
[18:27] <xnbomb> why do you ask, if I may ask?
[18:27] <ARGonaut> my name is jaye ahllford and i have to interview a producer for my school project
[18:27] <xnbomb> hmm, you may be in the wrong place
[18:27] <ARGonaut> jaycee Hallford
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[18:27] <missphinx> This is a game forum.
[18:27] <missphinx> er chat.
[18:27] <ARGonaut> what?
[18:27] <missphinx> Games.
[18:27] <missphinx> We play games.
[18:27] <ARGonaut> o, what kind of games
[18:27] <xnbomb> we do not make movies, not customarily
[18:28] <missphinx> these ttypes of games: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/index.php
[18:28] <ARGonaut> do you know anything about the film buisness?
[18:28] <xnbomb> Alternate Reality Games ... thus the ARG in your ARGonaut
[18:28] <ARGonaut> do you think you know enough about films?
[18:28] <missphinx> Not enough for your school report.
[18:28] <xnbomb> for what exactly?
[18:29] <ARGonaut> I want to be  aproducer when i grow up, so I have to interview one
[18:29] <xnbomb> to help you, probably not
[18:29] <missphinx> You might want to try asking around some film sites.
[18:29] <ARGonaut> do you know any?
[18:29] <missphinx> AFI
[18:29] <ARGonaut> can you chat thre?
[18:30] <ARGonaut> there*
[18:30] <missphinx> I seriously doubt you are going to find open chat rooms for producers on the internet but...
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[18:31] <ARGonaut> so you can't hepl me?
[18:31] <missphinx> Have you tried aint it cool news?
[18:31] <missphinx> that's about film
[18:32] <missphinx> http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/
[18:32] <xnbomb> well, we're trying to think of some suggestions
[18:32] <missphinx> they have a chat room
[18:32] <missphinx> I think
[18:32] <Diandra> how did you get here ARGonaut?
[18:33] <xnbomb> the $64K question :-)
[18:33] <ScrappyDoo> ooo ooo i know this one!  Okra!
[18:33] <ARGonaut> thanks, ill try that one know. thanks again
[18:33] <missphinx> welcome!
[18:33] <xnbomb> good luck
[18:34] <xnbomb> announcer voice:  "I'm sorry Scrappy, the answer was collard greens"
[18:34] <ScrappyDoo> oh damn!
[18:34] * ScrappyDoo smacks forehead
[18:35] <xnbomb> is #heist the default channel on that client these days?
[18:35] <ScrappyDoo> no, #uf is
[18:35] <xnbomb> hmm
[18:35] <ScrappyDoo> he's in there too :)
[18:35] <Diandra> ARGo is in three channels
[18:35] <missphinx> ah
[18:36] <Xuratu> She clicked the link from #uf
[18:36] <Diandra> i probably could help, but I'm not about to start giving out Hollywood phone numbers  LMAO
[18:36] <missphinx> Gee, Diandra, why NOT?
[18:37] <Diandra> i don't know...perhaps I still want to work in that town?
[18:37] * celina63 wonders... doesn't TTY use baudot?
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[18:37] <celina63> like, what you connect your phone to?
[18:37] <missphinx> yes, baudot is some kind of tty thing
[18:37] <missphinx> ham radio too er - I was skimming
[18:38] <celina63> I'm seeing lots of ASCII -> baudot converters and vice versa... but all hardware, no software
[18:38] <celina63> gah
[18:38] <missphinx> antique hardware
[18:38] * celina63 growls in frustration
[18:39] <missphinx> I was looking for a converter too
[18:39] <celina63> ktg07 *has* to open either the journal or the pic
[18:39] * Diandra waits for someone to say "When I grow up I want to be a Playboy bunny, so I have to interview one. Can you help?"
[18:39] <xnbomb> lol
[18:39] <missphinx> :D
[18:40] <celina63> why, would you volunteer?  :-D
[18:40] <ScrappyDoo> When I grow up, I want to be a Playboy bunny. My mom says I should talk to one first before doing it though.  Can anyone help?
[18:40] <Diandra> Sure, let me give you the number for Hef's newest girl, Kendra. She won't mind.
[18:40] <ScrappyDoo> sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
[18:40] <celina63> lol
[18:41] <missphinx> Wait! I'm a bunny! I can tell you all you need to know!
[18:41] <Diandra> hahaha
[18:41] <ScrappyDoo> oh yey1
[18:41] <missphinx> First you need to grow boobies!
[18:41] <dashcat> Is it possible that instead of using the words from the baudot as passwords we use the binary for each word?
[18:41] <celina63> tried that, at least on the arclight file
[18:42] <xnbomb> you mean, convert the words to ascii binary, and use those?
[18:43] <Diandra> can i just buy them instead, sphinx?
[18:43] <celina63> oh, like Alc's solve for messages.zip?
[18:45] <Diandra> got to go for a bit. I'll come back when I hear from HHM.
[18:45] <celina63> ok
[18:45] <Nick_> something interesting... the journal files have been in order thus far, but we skip from 387 on sd6 to 395 on sd7
[18:46] <Nick_> and it's only a 1kb file
[18:46] <celina63> I was wondering if perhaps the Coachella SD was "out of order" 
[18:46] <xnbomb> it may itself contain a pass or hint or somesuch
[18:46] <celina63> which is why it was (last minute) scripted to fail
[18:50] * varin is now known as v[a]rin
[18:51] <Nick_> wasn't HHM going to call nisha at 3:00pst?
[18:52] <xnbomb> yep, and we get our report at 4-ish
[18:52] <xnbomb> assuming other matters don't interfere ;-)
[18:54] <Nick_> so i don't think that we can do anything else with the ktg binary data... it'd be too hard to craft the bits such that they decode baudot and something else. Seems like we need to do something with the words.
[18:54] <xnbomb> makes sense to me
[18:55] <xnbomb> free your mind is the phrase that comes to mind
[18:55] <Nick_> liberate yourself?
[18:56] <ScrappyDoo> have they been channeling En Vogue?
[18:56] <xnbomb> heh
[18:56] <ScrappyDoo> because perhaps the rest will follow
[18:56] <ScrappyDoo> you can be color blind.
[18:56] <ScrappyDoo> don't be so shallow
[18:57] <xnbomb> works for me
[18:57] <ScrappyDoo> glad to have helped ;)
[18:58] <celina63> where do you see "free your mind"?
[18:58] <xnbomb> i don't literally, I am musing in a thematic sense
[18:58] <celina63> ah
[18:59] <missphinx> looked for relevant use of "free" in the hidden files but didn't see anything
[18:59] <celina63> if we had another word, it could be another magic (or evil) cube
[18:59] <missphinx> all I can think of is "and your ass will follow"
[18:59] <xnbomb> lol
[19:01] <missphinx> arclight is an 8 letter word
[19:02] <Diandra> HHM has spoken to Nisha
[19:02] <Rowan> and????
[19:02] <tomtom> and??
[19:02] <ScrappyDoo> Nisha likes Funyuns
[19:02] <celina63> lol
[19:02] <Diandra> she is going to be doing something within the next hour or two
[19:02] <celina63> it's a KLOO
[19:02] <celina63> oh HHM?
[19:02] <Rowan> hhm is? or nisha is?
[19:02] <Diandra> Nisha told her the less she says about it, the better
[19:02] <celina63> ok
[19:02] <Diandra> HHM
[19:03] <missphinx> Is she at the hotel now?
[19:03] <Rowan> watch hhm has to take on trent and roger
[19:03] <Diandra> I believe HHM is in the general vacinity of Santa Monica
[19:03] <Diandra> she said when she told Nisha Ian was in trouble, Nisha swore : )
[19:03] <xnbomb> sekrit!
[19:04] <missphinx> Oh good. Nisha believed her :)
[19:04] <celina63> ooo naughty Nisha
[19:04] <Diandra> and that's all I've got
[19:04] <Rowan> that bitch keeping secrets from us :)
[19:04] <missphinx> Thank you so much, Diandra (and HHM)!
[19:04] <Diandra> HHM will call me when she's done with her...mini mission
[19:04] <celina63> shoulda had HHM tell Nisha to answer my bloody email
[19:04] <celina63> lol
[19:04] <Diandra> you're welcome
[19:05] <celina63> btw, "original" is 8 letters as well
[19:05] <Diandra> i'm going to make dinner. I'll be back when I have news
[19:06] <celina63> enjoy
[19:06] <Diandra> bye!
[19:06] <tomtom> So is 'compacts.'
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[19:08] <Nick_> well shoot. I guess i'm going to go home. Talk to ya'll in a bit.
[19:08] <celina63> bye
[19:08] <tomtom> Buh-bye, Nick!
[19:08] * celina63 has 45 minutes before hometime
[19:09] <xnbomb> see ya later
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[19:13] <xnbomb> durn it, both sciencework.txt and homework.txt are identical for the first two lines ... maybe they do go together
[19:13] <xnbomb> perhaps they yield two passwords, or ppics.zip and ppics2.kgb use the same password, once in binary, once in plain ASCII
[19:14] <missphinx> So it may be the headers? good idea
[19:15] <enaxor> <Diandra> can i just buy them instead, sphinx?........I bought mine :)
[19:16] <xnbomb> 8 plants ~ 8 genera + 8 species, 48 elements
[19:19] <enaxor> one is titled homework and one is titled sciencework
[19:20] <enaxor> yet they are both  science homework
[19:21] <celina63> home science
[19:21] <celina63> science home
[19:21] * celina63 just throws stuff out there
[19:22] <enaxor> just throw it on the pile
[19:22] <enaxor> that's all I do
[19:22] <enaxor> the titles are also all lowercase letters
[19:23] <xnbomb> hmm
[19:23] <xnbomb> there are 94 characters in the element names
[19:23] <xnbomb> there are 141 (I think) in the plant names
[19:24] <xnbomb> if there were 142, there'd a perfect 2:3 ratio
[19:27] <xnbomb> that doesn't mean anything yet, but I'm trying to find a relationship
[19:31] <enaxor> both are the uncommon names?
[19:32] <enaxor> or scientific names
[19:32] <xnbomb> im working with the raw characters present, so element symbols and latin names
[19:32] <enaxor> ah
[19:32] <xnbomb> i'm going to assume we don't really need to know any science to solve this
[19:33] <ScrappyDoo> heh
[19:33] <xnbomb> if we did, it'd be a big departure from previous puzzles
[19:33] <enaxor> I should be able to solve it then
[19:35] <xnbomb> see y'all a little later
[19:35] * xnbomb is now known as xnb[o]mb
[19:36] * celina63 has been busting her brain against the baudot words
[19:37] <celina63> got the hex and octal values as well, and tried decoding that... nothing
[19:42] <enaxor> bye xnbomb
[19:44] <missphinx> I wonder if it has anything to do with the _ in the headers in the *work files 19 10 20
[19:44] <missphinx> sigh
[19:49] <celina63> sigh is right
[19:56] <celina63> ok, hometime
[19:57] <celina63> maybe I'll get struck by lightning on the way home, and become a "phenomenon"
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[19:58] <Xuratu> Like John Travolta?
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[20:01] <Rowan> have we heard back from hhm yet?
[20:02] <missphinx> no
[20:14] <enaxor> wonder what would happen if someone emailed Virgil, just to let him know we know he has Ian
[20:14] <Xuratu> Not I, says the Virgil-lovin' Xu.
[20:15] <enaxor> Ian will be presented at the party all tied up in a red bow for the police
[20:15] <Rowan> hehehe
[20:15] <Rowan> as long as he's not too badly bruised i'll be happy
[20:15] <Xuratu> Yay! Ian goes down! Virgil's a hero!
[20:16] <missphinx> Virgil wouldn't have much of a case in court.
[20:16] * Rowan grrs at Xuratu
[20:16] <Xuratu> I can't help that Ian's a thief. :P
[20:16] <Rowan> and virgil isn't?
[20:16] <missphinx> If Ian went to trial, all evidence would point to your beloved.
[20:16] <missphinx> Virgil is a self-admitted thief, Xuratu.
[20:16] <Xuratu> Virgil stole hearts! Ian stole cars and paintings!
[20:16] <Rowan> he didnt steal any paintings
[20:17] <missphinx> Denial is a river in Egypt, Xuratu.
[20:17] <Rowan> and he stole the car from Virgils thugs who stole it first
[20:17] <Xuratu> Well, we've all stolen something. .
[20:17] <Xuratu> Let me live in my fantasy world, damned it. .
[20:17] <Rowan> heheh
[20:17] <Xuratu> Virgil is King!
[20:17] <Rowan> as long as you dont intrude on mine
[20:17] <Xuratu> (Until tomorrow night, anyway.)
[20:19] <enaxor> heh
[20:19] * Xuratu goes back to swimming through the Rumors forums.
[20:19] <enaxor> so do we know if Gunter was really dead?
[20:19] <missphinx> We don't even know if Myke and Oak were dead.
[20:19] <enaxor> or was he playing dead
[20:19] <enaxor> right
[20:19] <missphinx> Evidence can always be faked :)
[20:20] <Xuratu> Gunter better be dead. :P
[20:20] <enaxor> so while nisha ian and virgil, duke it out, myke, oak and gunter will getaway with the paintinigs
[20:20] <missphinx> I hope even if Gunter is dead, he gets to go to the party.
[20:21] <enaxor> will star will be the getaway driver
[20:21] * j[a]mesi is now known as jamesi
[20:21] <missphinx> Will Starr, yes!
[20:21] <enaxor> with his song, the getaway blasting on the radio
[20:21] <missphinx> They'll drive down to Mexico.
[20:22] <missphinx> Or maybe just have a boat waiting at the dock.
[20:22] <enaxor> so gunter can cure his cough
[20:22] <missphinx> Gunter's good with boats.
[20:22] <missphinx> How about - Mexican boat
[20:22] <enaxor> we could write the whole ending
[20:22] <missphinx> They will end up in South America.
[20:22] <enaxor> costa rica
[20:22] <Xuratu> WILL STAR IS THE HEIST MASTER -- We *all* lose.
[20:23] <enaxor> boats name is twinkle twinkle
[20:23] <missphinx> excellent
[20:23] <Xuratu> At the party, Ian escapes his bonds and tackles Virgil while Nisha attempts to find the paintings. When she does, she gives them to Will and tells him to put them in her A3.
[20:23] <missphinx> all 26 of them. in the a3
[20:24] <enaxor> a3 is roomy
[20:24] <Xuratu> . . .I'm joking, you know.
[20:24] <missphinx> oh it'll be easy - since they took them out of the boxes and folded them up
[20:24] <Xuratu> If you're going to stop suspending disbelief, start with how Nisha got my mailing address. :P
[20:24] <enaxor> if there frameless, they are prolly rolled
[20:24] <missphinx> How did she get your mailing address? Did they ask?
[20:25] <Xuratu> Yes.
[20:25] <enaxor> you mean the disclaimer you signed?
[20:25] <missphinx> They were folded, but The Goons decided they needed to be folded to fit in a suitcase.
[20:25] <missphinx> leaving a trail of paint flecks behind them
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[20:25] <Rowan> ya - thats how they got my addy as well
[20:25] <Rowan> is gepsters a word?
[20:25] <missphinx> doubtful
[20:25] <j5> don't think so
[20:26] <enaxor> they called to get mine over 2 weeks ago, but I never got anything from Nisha :(
[20:26] <Rowan> i tried
[20:26] <enaxor> where did you get gepsters?
[20:26] <missphinx> maybe it works anyway. that last one had all those passwords that weren't words
[20:26] <Rowan> well, it doesnt work on the zip
[20:26] <Rowan> i dont have kgb here
[20:27] <Rowan> tho i suppose i could download it
[20:27] <missphinx> Well, nobody ever contacted me, but since I forcefed my address on them... :)
[20:27] <enaxor> lol
[20:27] <enaxor> did you get a pin?
[20:27] <missphinx> Oh no. I don't expect one either, which is fine.
[20:27] <missphinx> I have enough pins :)
[20:27] <enaxor> heh
[20:28] <enaxor> how was beer, j5?
[20:29] <j5> yummy
[20:29] <j5> ok, I lie
[20:29] <enaxor> :)
[20:29] <j5> it sucked
[20:29] <missphinx> beer sucked?
[20:29] <j5> but it was cheap
[20:29] <enaxor> aw, I'm sorry
[20:29] <j5> bud lite
[20:29] <missphinx> that's not beer 
[20:29] <j5> indeed
[20:29] <j5> but the wings were tasty
[20:29] <enaxor> I have lots of 2buck chuck wine here
[20:29] <j5> and friday is appletini day
[20:30] <enaxor> mmmm apple pucker
[20:30] <j5> people are happy to be getting rid of me :)
[20:31] * jamesi is now known as j[a]mesi
[20:31] <missphinx> bah. the new job is a much better one?
[20:31] <j5> yes it is
[20:31] * enaxor toasts j5....to the new job!
[20:32] <j5> tyvm :)
[20:32] <j5> prost
[20:32] <j5> (?)
[20:32] * missphinx raises her Diet Pepsi in celebration
[20:33] <missphinx> prosit?
[20:33] <missphinx> http://www.thevirtualbar.com/Toasts/Display.html
[20:34] <j5> proost?
[20:35] <j5> either way
[20:35] <j5> :)
[20:36] <missphinx> so, what's HHM up to...
[20:36] <missphinx> maybe she's drinking at the hotel bar :)
[20:36] <enaxor> hhm is on a3
[20:36] <Rowan> maybe she's been kidnapped as well
[20:37] <j5> any updates?
[20:37] <missphinx> no. She was supposed to call Diandra when she could.
[20:37] <enaxor> not yet
[20:38] <missphinx> maybe she saw Virgil and lost it :)
[20:38] <j5> lol
[20:40] <missphinx> ah! she's logged in to sa3
[20:40] <missphinx> unless Virgil is torturing her making her post!
[20:40] <j5> she may have left it up
[20:41] <missphinx> no, last click was like 11 minutes ago
[20:41] * enaxor slaps missphinx around a bit with a large trout
[20:41] <missphinx> trout? moi?
[20:41] <j5> !slap j5
[20:41] <j5> how does that work?
[20:41] <missphinx> !trout me
[20:41] <enaxor> [17:38] <enaxor> hhm is on a3
[20:41] <missphinx> oh :)
[20:41] * enaxor slaps j5 around a bit with a large trout
[20:41] <j5> !trouot j5
[20:41] <j5> !trout j5
[20:41] <missphinx> !trout missphinx
[20:42] <j5> !trout rowan
[20:42] <enaxor> j5 right click on my name and then click slap]
[20:42] <missphinx> maybe it's one of those MIRC things
[20:42] <j5> ah, ok
[20:42] <missphinx> sorry enaxor
[20:42] <xnb[o]mb> rowan, I did try gepsters on ppics2,kgb
[20:42] <xnb[o]mb> closest thing to a word I've found with that
[20:43] <enaxor> I was just phunin with ya
[20:43] <missphinx> :)
[20:43] <xnb[o]mb> gepsters comes from the first letters of the common names of the plants
[20:44] <missphinx> pepsters might be better
[20:44] <xnb[o]mb> hmm
[20:44] <j5> what was that one post about african origins?
[20:44] <missphinx> it's the first plant
[20:45] <j5> could it yield anything useful?
[20:45] <xnb[o]mb> the geranium or pelargonium
[20:45] <missphinx> http://forum.stolena3.com/index.php?showtopic=152 - it's about 2/3 way down
[20:45] <xnb[o]mb> hell we should find where the others are from ... first letters of continents maybe?
[20:45] <j5> maybe
[20:46] <missphinx> did you think about the _'s in the headers, xnbomb?
[20:46] <xnb[o]mb> a, n, s, e ... could make a decent word
[20:46] <j5> when newbies post puzzle ideas to SA3, I get suspicious
[20:46] <xnb[o]mb> evidently not enough missphinx
[20:46] <missphinx> 19 10 20
[20:47] <missphinx> it means nothing to me, but I blank at numbers
[20:47] <enaxor> ms, where is the 19 10 20 from
[20:47] <j5> counting the _
[20:47] <missphinx> y
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[20:50] <missphinx> Maybe HHM is in the middle of her mission and needed to get on to SA3 for proof or something.
[20:50] <j5> maybe
[20:50] <xnb[o]mb> well, dinner calls and I will answer
[20:50] <missphinx> enjoy!
[20:50] <xnb[o]mb> thx
[20:50] * j5 has to leave soon also
[20:54] <j5> is hhm the only one who answered?
[20:54] <enaxor> I think so
[20:54] <j5> oop, family time
[20:54] <j5> bbl
[20:54] <missphinx> bye j5
[20:54] <j5> bye
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[20:54] <missphinx> cskane has been pretty quiet lately.
[20:55] <missphinx> probably busy
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[20:57] * ARGbot sets mode: +o bags
[20:57] <Diandra> Kane and I traded text messages today
[20:57] <Diandra> he's going to the party
[20:58] <Diandra> nothing from HHM yet
[20:58] <missphinx> that's good
[20:58] <missphinx> I mean about kane
[20:58] <Diandra> but she said she was doing her thing within the next 1 or 2 hours...so if she was beginning two hours later, that's now
[20:59] <Diandra> have there been any iannet updates?
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[20:59] <enaxor> not yet
[21:00] <Diandra> no ransom notes?
[21:00] <Diandra> oh well
[21:01] <Diandra> i'll be back when i hear from HHM
[21:01] <missphinx> thanks :)
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[21:11] <enaxor> I'm trying to find info on the botanists who named the plants
[21:12] <enaxor> but having trouble finding it for each plant
[21:12] <missphinx> The web is lacking on some of these plants, or at least where I can find stuff
[21:13] <enaxor> darn web
[21:13] <Rowan> i definity think we need a hint on these last 2
[21:14] <missphinx> or on the arclight file
[21:15] <missphinx> or is that one of the last 2
[21:15] <Rowan> i almost think the ktg files have something to do with that
[21:15] <missphinx> yeah.
[21:25] <enaxor> http://dlp.cs.berkeley.edu/photos/
[21:25] <enaxor> this site lets you put in the scientific name and see photos
[21:27] <missphinx> is that the one that cather had earlier? I didn't play around enough with it.
[21:28] <missphinx> nice work!!!
[21:28] <enaxor> it's pretty cool
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[21:30] <enaxor> the blue star tulip is also called beavertail grass
[21:30] <enaxor> ?
[21:31] <Rowan> maybe goes with the yellow bee plant?
[21:32] <enaxor> I said earlier that they all flower with the exception of the elm?
[21:32] <enaxor> does an elm flower before it leafs out?
[21:32] <Rowan> dunno
[21:32] <Rowan> there's an 8 theme running through sd 7
[21:32] <Rowan> each of the ktg files net an 8 letter word
[21:33] <Rowan> and it seems there are 8 missing journals
[21:33] <enaxor> with the first as african and the rest american, african-american?
[21:33] <Rowan> oh wait - *sigh* 7 missing journals
[21:34] * Rowan gives up
[21:34] <missphinx> there's calochortus caeruleus and there's calochortus coeruleus - same or different (the first might be the beavertail?)
[21:36] <Rowan> hehe - todd thinks i should get cookies
[21:37] <enaxor> ms they look they have the same flower
[21:37] * enaxor thinks rowan should get cookies too
[21:38] <missphinx> they're probably the same. just interesting that the names are different (to me)
[21:38] * missphinx too
[21:38] * Xuratu could make Xu Sugar Cookies for Rowan, but I'm not sure they'd stand up to the uf standard.
[21:39] * missphinx read Todd's post
[21:39] <missphinx> That Todd, he's a good one.
[21:39] <enaxor> I put both spellings in and got different pictures, but of the same flowers
[21:40] <missphinx> Maybe it's the latin - different people use different variation
[21:40] <missphinx> "what you talking about" :)
[21:40] <enaxor> that makes sense
[21:40] * v[a]rin is now known as varin
[21:40] <missphinx> and plants have different common names pretty frequently I think
[21:46] <tomtom> Nothing from HHM?
[21:50] <enaxor> pepsters looks alot like websters
[21:57] <Rowan> do we know what time this thing is tomorrow?
[21:58] <enaxor> 8:03
[21:58] <Rowan> thats right
[21:58] <Rowan> thanks
[21:58] <enaxor> pdt I think
[21:58] <Rowan> ya
[21:59] <Rowan> i got invited to some dinner thing tomorrow and am debating on if i can go
[21:59] <missphinx> #heist will be fun
[21:59] <Xuratu> If you go, I'll call you names over the interweb. :x
[22:00] <enaxor> todd is missing the little itty bitty piece of building from the expense documents
[22:00] <Xuratu> Also, there's a chance I'm gonna miss it. :(
[22:00] <Rowan> is it a piece of the building or an artifact?
[22:00] * j[a]mesi is now known as jamesi
[22:00] <enaxor> it looked like an incomplete piece of the building decoration
[22:01] <enaxor> so I guess it could be an artifact
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[22:02] <missphinx> I think it's part of the buidling. I think they used it as a tiny marker to hide the big picture - haven't really figured that out yet (I hate word)
[22:02] <missphinx> no, j5, no news from HHM
[22:02] <j5> ty
[22:02] * Rowan changes topic to 'Tomorrow 8:03 PDT The End Is Nigh! | Coachella 5 - Nisha Needs You! http://tinyurl.com/cdr6q | Thumbnails: http://www.wonderweasels.org/heist/darkplace/images/ | /heart death:future  /darkplace hidden:secrets /mind synapse:tatumthink /forthcoming expediency:newconceptualization'
[22:02] <j5> whew
[22:02] <j5> anyone checking LRR for updates?
[22:03] <missphinx> just did again - nope
[22:03] <j5> vkoc?
[22:03] <Rowan> nothing at the rants
[22:03] <j5> ty
[22:04] <j5> back to puzzles :)
[22:04] <Rowan> yes - solve the last puzzles j5
[22:04] <j5> sure
[22:04] <Rowan> :)
[22:04] <Rowan> you are one of the puzzle masters
[22:04] <missphinx> and make it snappy
[22:04] <missphinx> you are, j5
[22:04] <j5> hahaha
[22:04] <j5> ty
[22:05] <Diandra> i just tried calling HHM...no answer. Guess she's still at it
[22:06] <j5> wow
[22:06] <Diandra> left her a message to call me when she's done
[22:06] <Diandra> i'll be back then
[22:06] <j5> thanks for the update d
[22:06] <Diandra> sure
[22:06] <Diandra> cya
[22:06] <j5> anyone seen this?: http://elib.cs.berkeley.edu/photos/select_lists/plant_taxon_list.txt
[22:07] <missphinx> .... no .... numberssssss....
[22:07] <missphinx> enaxor might have - she was looking at that site a lot
[22:07] <j5> crap, third one is missing
[22:08] <missphinx> she was using this part of it - http://dlp.cs.berkeley.edu/photos/
[22:08] <missphinx> er wait.
[22:08] <missphinx> slightly different
[22:09] <enaxor> I I was just using the photo part
[22:09] <j5> ah, bogus lead, sorry
[22:09] <enaxor> http://dlp.cs.berkeley.edu/photos/
[22:11] <missphinx> I hope they've taken HHM to dinner at this rate.
[22:11] <j5> no kidding
[22:11] * Rowan is so freaking jealous
[22:11] * j5 too
[22:11] <missphinx> Maybe she's having the time of her life in the fancy hotel, wining and dining.
[22:11] <Rowan> ya, but at least you got a mission
[22:11] <j5> tied up at Virgil's
[22:11] <Rowan> heheh
[22:12] <missphinx> with latex on.
[22:12] <j5> ok, yes, sorry row
[22:12] * j5 shuts up
[22:12] <Rowan> damn skippee :)
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[22:12] * Rowan gives j5 a cookie
[22:12] * j5 gives rowan a chocolate sundae
[22:13] <missphinx> mmmmm.
[22:13] <missphinx> Rowan you should go to argfest
[22:13] <j5> says sphinx
[22:13] <missphinx> (I sound like rose :) )
[22:13] <j5> who is going???? 
[22:13] <missphinx> yeah, uh huh.
[22:14] <j5> hmmm?
[22:14] <missphinx> um...
[22:14] <missphinx> no.
[22:14] <j5> heh
[22:14] <j5> :P
[22:14] <missphinx> :P
[22:14] <enaxor> III'm too broke to go
[22:14] <missphinx> You just had a wedding!!!
[22:15] <j5> no kidding
[22:15] <enaxor> geesh
[22:15] <enaxor> kids
[22:16] * j5 has several years before that headache
[22:16] <missphinx> Yes, you get to go through the teen years first.
[22:16] <missphinx> :)
[22:16] * j5 facepalms
[22:16] <enaxor> I don't wish that on anyone
[22:17] <j5> if he's anything like me....
[22:17] <j5> hooboy
[22:17] <missphinx> don't think about it, j5
[22:17] <enaxor> girls are worse
[22:17] <enaxor> they're better liars
[22:17] <j5> yeah, I can imagine
[22:18] <missphinx> I was just thinking that 
[22:18] <missphinx> bah. now I have to remember how to feed 11x14 paper into the damn printer
[22:19] <missphinx> or whatever size this freaking never mind
[22:19] <j5> open the tray
[22:19] <missphinx> 8.5x14
[22:19] <missphinx> I don't think it fits in this particular set of trays
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[22:21] <j5> evening lou
[22:21] <Lou> hi
[22:22] <missphinx> yay it worked :)
[22:22] <j5> ?
[22:22] <j5> oh
[22:23] <missphinx> there was one program I had insisted on printing legal size sideways
[22:23] <missphinx> not this one :)
[22:23] * xnb[o]mb is now known as xnbomb
[22:25] <j5> that one plant is hard to find
[22:25] <j5> calochortus coeruleus
[22:25] <xnbomb> you know, it does say Date: __________ up at the tops instead of Name: __________, that's kinda weird
[22:25] <j5> it says student
[22:25] <j5> but yes
[22:26] <missphinx> 19 10 20
[22:26] <j5> turn off word-wrap and use courier for more fun
[22:26] <xnbomb> oh frig
[22:26] <xnbomb> thank you J5
[22:27] <j5> see something?
[22:27] <xnbomb> yeah, the rest of the headers that were invisible in notepad ;-)
[22:27] <missphinx> :)
[22:27] <j5> :)
[22:29] <j5> I wonder if HHM is waiting for us to solve before posting
[22:29] <missphinx> 56 spaces between homework and teacher. Plus all those extra tabs (but they seem to do that a lot)
[22:29] <j5> or updating :)
[22:29] <j5> it's like they used word, then saved as .txt
[22:29] <xnbomb> i do like Celina's line of thinking ... Nisha needs evidence
[22:29] <missphinx> yeah, I think so.
[22:30] <xnbomb> the evidence is in SD 7
[22:30] <missphinx> about word. and Nisha
[22:30] <j5> ah, ok
[22:30] <j5> so should we be concentrating on that?
[22:30] <xnbomb> it may be time sensitive, so possibly
[22:30] <missphinx> I would if I were able to concentrate on anything. SD 6 is probably just more instructions or whatever for shipping.
[22:30] <j5> I would think we don't have enough to go on
[22:31] <j5> yes sphinx, I agree
[22:31] <xnbomb> well, the zip contains shipping documents
[22:31] <xnbomb> or manifests
[22:31] <xnbomb> and the kgb ... ?
[22:32] <xnbomb> (referring to SD6)
[22:32] <xnbomb> arclight.jpg in insurance.zip on SD 7 should really be something juicy
[22:33] <j5> we still have a kgb on 6?
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[22:33] <xnbomb> yeah, remaining files are ppics.zip and ppics2.kgb
[22:33] <j5> ah, ok
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[22:37] <celina63> so, solve it all
[22:37] <celina63> ?
[22:38] <xnbomb> heh
[22:38] <missphinx> oh yes.
[22:38] <enaxor> but we decided not to share
[22:38] * missphinx looks at the monkeys flying out of her rear
[22:39] <enaxor> heh
[22:39] <celina63> OH FINE
[22:39] <celina63> lol
[22:39] <xnbomb> hmm, I think I'll play a what if game with Baudot
[22:40] <missphinx> no word from HHM either celina
[22:40] * Rowan has totally run out of ideas
[22:40] <missphinx> we figure she's being victualized by the hotel
[22:40] <celina63> still no word from scape, that lyin' jerk
[22:40] <celina63> mmm victualization
[22:40] <missphinx> Scape's probably dead by now
[22:40] <xnbomb> what if the real message is in original baudot and needs to be ROTed or something
[22:40] <j5> lol
[22:40] * Hellion waits for an email from worry
[22:41] <celina63> xn, I was thinking that
[22:41] <celina63> and trying to do stuff with it
[22:41] <xnbomb> i am mindful of a serious violation of the 'simplest explanation', but what the heck
[22:41] <celina63> I tried ROTing the baudot words
[22:42] <celina63> but of course it's highly unlikely that a word will ROT to another one
[22:42] <missphinx> especially a whole set of them.
[22:42] <missphinx> (like I know)
[22:42] <xnbomb> it'd be very tricky, but think of baudot <-> murray as having a simple sub relationship
[22:42] * Rowan idly wonders if anyone has just tried to crack any of these
[22:42] <xnbomb> then pick very carefully
[22:42] <celina63> I also got the hex/octal/decimal values of the YOURSELF baudot word
[22:42] <celina63> but couldn't do anything with them either
[22:43] <enaxor> have fun all
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[22:43] <celina63> xn, when I was doing the original translation, I was using the original baudot, and it was gibberish
[22:43] <xnbomb> right, then ROT the gibberish
[22:43] <celina63> not just mixed up letters, but control characters too
[22:43] <celina63> can't ROT control characters  :-)
[22:43] <xnbomb> hmm, yes there were some of those
[22:44] <celina63> I even tried Base 64 on the binary translations :-)
[22:44] <xnbomb> well, you could, but it'd be a different ROT ... call it baudot-shift
[22:44] * missphinx tries typing "virgil" and "console" as the password with no luck
[22:45] <celina63> so I'm out of ideas with those  :-(
[22:45] <xnbomb> mind you, paraphrasing something a wise man told me "never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity"
[22:45] <j5> I heard that before :)
[22:46] <xnbomb> heh
[22:46] <missphinx> works for me
[22:46] <Addlepated> are the current puzzles on the forum?
[22:46] <xnbomb> so, do I a) believe that 'original baudot' was a mistake and leave it alone or b) hammer away at using the original baudot code wildly
[22:46] <j5> the solves addy?
[22:47] <Addlepated> the unfinisheds
[22:47] <Addlepated> er, unsolved
[22:47] <j5> SD6 is I know
[22:47] <j5> the two homeworks
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[22:47] <Rowan> and the 2 protected files with no actual puzzles to them
[22:47] <j5> sd7, not on
[22:48] <xnbomb> we hypothesize their password is related to a bunch on binary that solves to a few words that were distributed amongst all the cards, but we don't know
[22:48] <xnbomb> and that solve is posted
[22:48] <Rowan> i agree with that hypothesis
[22:48] <j5> yes
[22:48] <Rowan> but unless its gibberish again - i dont know what else to do
[22:50] <xnbomb> 7 8-letter words, given to us one at a time, and presumably identifiable if we had a reverse murray encoded flash of brilliance
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[22:52] <missphinx> I suppose it's unlikely a dictionary crack would work.
[22:52] <missphinx> or whatever you call it
[22:53] <j5> it might
[22:53] <xnbomb> depends what kind of password it is ... if it is an 8-letter word, maybe
[22:53] <xnbomb> if is not an 8-letter word, how are we going to know if we ever find it
[22:53] <missphinx> yes.
[22:56] <missphinx> Well, if HHM won't be freed until we solve this, then at least she's in a nice hotel for the night.
[22:56] <missphinx> Or Virgil's swank residence. Tied up. Crying.
[22:57] <xnbomb> heh, sequestered in a high end hotel, waiting for a solve that may not come
[22:57] <Lou> whoa...HHM is captured?
[22:57] <Lou> like kept hostage?
[22:57] <xnbomb> whoa, whoa ... just talking ideas here
[22:57] <missphinx> She was supposed to report back. And that was 3 hours ago.
[22:57] <missphinx> :)
[22:57] <Lou> gah
[22:58] <missphinx> Spec is she's being treated to dinner :)
[22:58] <Xuratu> She probably got sidetracked by my Virgil's sheer brilliance. :)
[22:58] <Rowan> maybe she and ian ran away to vegas to get hitched
[22:58] <Lou> what was her mission?
[22:58] <missphinx> Or Will.
[22:58] <xnbomb> sekrit!
[22:58] <missphinx> She couldn't tell us.
[22:58] <celina63> Lou, dunno
[22:58] <Lou> ah
[22:58] <Rowan> the bitch wouldnt tell us ;)
[22:58] <missphinx> First she won't tell us, THEN she marries Ian.
[22:58] <Rowan> (and when i say bitch - i say it in the most loving of ways_
[22:58] <Lou> I thought it was "keep an eye on Ian"
[22:59] <xnbomb> yeah, that probably had to change a lot
[22:59] <missphinx> Yeah but she couldn't tell us how - it was like "the less you say the better"
[22:59] <Rowan> well, considering ian is probably tied up in a trunk - hard to keep an eye on him
[22:59] <Lou> huh
[22:59] <Lou> well...all our questions will be answered tomorrow
[22:59] <Rowan> maybe ;)
[22:59] <Xuratu> They better. :P
[22:59] <Lou> I can't wait for the PM chat!
[22:59] <Rowan> me neither!
[23:00] * celina63 thinks HHM is a PM
[23:00] <celina63> lol
[23:00] * Xuratu third! Wait. .what?
[23:00] <j5> ahem....WOOOOO
[23:00] <j5> frailty
[23:00] <celina63> ?
[23:00] <missphinx> oh my freaking god you got it
[23:00] <celina63> what what?
[23:00] <Rowan> thats that for?
[23:00] <xnbomb> pass for the sd7 kgb
[23:00] <celina63> WOW
[23:00] <missphinx> See. He is our man.
[23:00] <Rowan> how the hell did you get that???
[23:00] <celina63> where did that come from??
[23:01] <j5> anagram first chars of the decode
[23:01] <Lou> ???
[23:01] <celina63> IFARTLY
[23:01] <j5> yep
[23:01] <Addlepated> heheheheh
[23:01] <celina63> FRAILTY
[23:01] <j5> yep
[23:01] * missphinx screws up password
[23:01] <celina63> Sonuvabitch
[23:01] <Rowan> Subject: Looking Back Subjectively
[23:01] <Rowan> 2a1, 4b20, 1b9, 6b2, 3d8, 2b9, 5a2, 1a1, 5b11, 6a6, 3a1, 4c18
[23:01] <Lou> I fart all the time, what does that mean?
[23:01] * celina63 kicks her useless brain
[23:01] <xnbomb> which in turn looks like the puzzle for the big one
[23:01] <j5> yep
[23:01] <celina63> post it!
[23:02] <Rowan> must be all the old stuff
[23:02] * j5 dances around
[23:02] <xnbomb> journal subjects
[23:02] <j5> the sd card names
[23:02] <j5> but ian's didn't have one
[23:02] <celina63> I need postage!  I have no KGB decryptor!
[23:02] <missphinx> feck I can't get it to work
[23:02] <Rowan> celina - thats just it
[23:02] <xnbomb> looking back subjectively ... old subjects?
[23:02] <Rowan> Subject: Looking Back Subjectively
[23:02] <Rowan> 2a1, 4b20, 1b9, 6b2, 3d8, 2b9, 5a2, 1a1, 5b11, 6a6, 3a1, 4c18
[23:02] <Addlepated> in Soviet Russia, file decrypts YOU.
[23:02] <Rowan> text file with that in it
[23:02] <missphinx> is this the arclight file?
[23:03] <Rowan> no, the journal kgb
[23:03] <celina63> haha
[23:03] <missphinx> oh :)
[23:03] <xnbomb> it probably solves to the pass for the arclight file
[23:03] <celina63> no, this is the journal file
[23:03] <Rowan> i agree xnbomb
[23:03] <celina63> yesyes
[23:03] <missphinx> yes
[23:03] <celina63> ooooo
[23:03] <missphinx> did you get it?
[23:03] <celina63> looks like hex
[23:03] <celina63> no, just agreeing
[23:03] <missphinx> :)
[23:03] <Rowan> i think it has something to do with all the older files
[23:03] <celina63> Rowan, is that all there is?
[23:03] <Rowan> yes
[23:03] <Rowan> 2 lines
[23:05] <j5> posted!
[23:05] <j5> http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=170759#170759
[23:05] <Lou> well congrats to whoever solved it
[23:05] <Lou> yay!
[23:05] <celina63> j5 r0x0rz our b0x0rz!
[23:05] <xnbomb> he is the man
[23:06] * j5 blushes
[23:06] <celina63> well, not Hex
[23:06] <missphinx> backwards hex?
[23:06] <Addlepated> Rowan, those look like coordinates to me
[23:06] <celina63> not base64
[23:06] <missphinx> I know. It's back to the cube j/k
[23:06] <celina63> yeah, "looking back"
[23:06] <Addlepated> hmmm
[23:06] <celina63> GAH
[23:07] <Xuratu> NO CUBE
[23:07] <celina63> I was trying to decode each comma-deliniated unit seperately
[23:07] <missphinx> ... ...
[23:07] <Rowan> to me the subject screams going to back to the old files
[23:08] <celina63> Looking Back Subjectively == LBS
[23:08] <celina63> LBS also == Location Based Services
[23:08] <celina63> Location Based Services is a growing technology field that focuses on providing GIS and spatial information via mobile and field units.
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[23:08] <Rowan> ok maybe not
[23:08] <celina63> and I scared off Lou
[23:08] <missphinx> hey, XNBOMB get in here :)
[23:09] <xnbomb> hmm?
[23:09] <missphinx> LBS ?
[23:09] <xnbomb> oh, i see now
[23:10] <xnbomb> possible ... the only coordsys that I know that looks anything like that is the new universal coordsys that I use in forum location
[23:11] <j5> chess?
[23:11] <xnbomb> doesn't look quite right though
[23:12] <xnbomb> does look like some kind of chess notation
[23:14] <celina63> Chess notation: http://chess.about.com/library/ble21brd.htm
[23:14] <celina63> I don't think so, though
[23:14] <celina63> according to that page, there can be no 2a1
[23:14] <j5> what order did we get these?
[23:15] <missphinx> http://iannet.lastresortretrieval.com/nisha/secret/mailinbox/0183.html
[23:15] <missphinx> vid from hhm
[23:15] <xnbomb> cool!
[23:16] <missphinx> OMG
[23:16] <xnbomb> and aw frig
[23:16] <celina63> wooo HHM is a star
[23:16] <j5> link??
[23:16] <celina63> !
[23:16] <celina63> j5, above
[23:16] <xnbomb> http://iannet.lastresortretrieval.com/nisha/secret/mailinbox/Video_062805_001.3g2
[23:16] <j5> ty, sorry
[23:17] <missphinx> what are those spikes at the end?
[23:17] <celina63> those a stands for poles
[23:17] <celina63> like,what you put rope barriers on
[23:17] <missphinx> okay
[23:17] <celina63> shit, they've captured her
[23:17] <j5> ahahahaha this is so coool
[23:17] <Rowan> that lucky bitch
[23:17] <missphinx> And we thought we were joking
[23:17] <celina63> and still no reply from Nisha
[23:18] <celina63> Rowan, lol... tied up with your man
[23:18] <missphinx> :) Rowan
[23:18] <missphinx> in the trunk. hot and steamy
[23:18] * Rowan is so depressed now ;)
[23:18] <missphinx> It's okay. He'll dump her and get back with Nisha and she'll be heartbroken
[23:20] <Addlepated> also all the first numbers are 1-6, could they be referencing something from the cards?
[23:20] <Rowan> thats what i've been saying
[23:20] <Addlepated> oh
[23:20] <Addlepated> nevermind then
[23:20] <j5> I think the subject
[23:20] <Addlepated> I'm in too many windows =)
[23:20] <Rowan> none of the letters go above d either
[23:20] <missphinx> keep specing addlepated
[23:20] <j5> lol
[23:20] <Addlepated> I love your trout!
[23:20] <Rowan> and tehre are only 4 journals per card
[23:21] <xnbomb> except one I think with 5
[23:21] <j5> yes
[23:21] <j5> still
[23:21] <Rowan> i'm looking at it being card#-journal-letter
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[23:21] <j5> card,journal,word?
[23:21] <Rowan> i was going by subject only
[23:22] <celina63> yeah, "subjectively"
[23:22] <Rowan> 4c18
[23:22] <j5> right
[23:22] <Rowan> has 18 letters exactly if you remove the Subject; part
[23:22] <j5> card 4 journal c word in subject 18
[23:22] <Mattazuma> The goons got HHM?  http://iannet.lastresortretrieval.com/nisha/secret/mailinbox/0183.html
[23:22] <j5> yes
[23:22] <missphinx>  yes.
[23:22] <Mattazuma> wow
[23:22] <j5> yes
[23:22] <missphinx> are you going to the party, Mattazuma?
[23:23] <Rowan> ooh
[23:23] <Addlepated> what video format is that file in?
[23:23] <Rowan> i got something
[23:23] <Rowan> crralcompass
[23:23] <Mattazuma> No, can't fly out to LA this week.
[23:23] <Rowan> i might have messed up the first word tho
[23:23] <Addlepated> corral?
[23:23] <missphinx> coral?
[23:23] <Rowan> probably moral
[23:23] <missphinx> AH!
[23:23] <missphinx> yes
[23:23] <missphinx> I mean, that sounds right
[23:23] <j5> woooo!!!!
[23:23] <Rowan> fuck no
[23:23] <Rowan> bastiages
[23:23] <missphinx> grrr!
[23:23] <j5> no, convert to that funny binary
[23:24] <Rowan> ktg binary?
[23:24] <j5> no, baudoeodoadolier
[23:24] <j5> or whatever
[23:24] <xnbomb> ick
[23:24] <Rowan> well, ya thats what i meant
[23:25] <j5> that has to be it
[23:25] <Rowan> ya
[23:25] <Rowan> lemme see where the hell i screwed up tho
[23:25] <missphinx> and if that doesn't work - we could try conscience
[23:25] <missphinx> but I think you got it. YAY ROWAN!!!!!!!!
[23:25] * celina63 is confused, but that's ok
[23:25] <Rowan> hang on
[23:25] <Rowan> lemme double check my work and i'll post
[23:26] <Rowan> wow - ya, defintely an M as the first letter
[23:26] <Rowan> idiot me
[23:26] <missphinx> no, smart you
[23:26] <Addlepated> hemp!
[23:26] <Rowan> hmm
[23:26] <Rowan> one second
[23:27] <Rowan> I GOT IT
[23:27] <Rowan> I GOT IT 
[23:27] <xnbomb> 001110001101010110000100101110000110011101101110001010010100
[23:27] <Rowan> m0ralcompass
[23:27] <Rowan> its an effing 0
[23:27] <Addlepated> :)
[23:27] <j5> aww feck
[23:27] <missphinx> oh fing hell :)
[23:27] <j5> nice Rowan!!!
[23:27] <xnbomb> oh, better change those bits in 6-10 then
[23:27] <celina63> YAY!!!
[23:27] <Rowan> well that picture is total effing waste
[23:27] <j5> oh?
[23:27] <Rowan> another piece of that building
[23:27] <celina63> shite
[23:27] <xnbomb> fuck
[23:27] <missphinx> you're kidding
[23:27] <celina63> well, damn
[23:28] <missphinx> it's the arclight building
[23:28] <celina63> looks like we'll have to photoshop the damned thing
[23:28] <xnbomb> as in the theater?
[23:28] <Rowan> ok, lemme go post
[23:28] <missphinx> don't tell me it's that fucking arclight theater in LA
[23:28] <j5> oh, duh!
[23:28] <Rowan> rofl
[23:28] <missphinx> AFI has this stupid arclight theater
[23:28] <Rowan> expensive as hell
[23:28] <j5> aw fecking feck
[23:29] <celina63> it's the Arclight Cinema in Hollywood!
[23:29] <celina63> lol
[23:29] <Rowan> j5 - did you post about the frailty yet?
[23:29] <xnbomb> its not every day a cinema plans a major heist
[23:29] <j5> yes
[23:29] <Rowan> hehehehe
[23:29] <missphinx> I looked that up the first day I saw arclight - but I didn't look up the fucking building picture
[23:29] <j5> on both SA3 and UF
[23:29] <j5> nice sphinx :)
[23:29] <Rowan> rofl
[23:29] <missphinx> wait... first we have to find a picture of the building
[23:30] <celina63> I was just kidding
[23:30] * missphinx kicks herself in the head
[23:30] <xnbomb> so ... maybe Virgil has them there?
[23:30] <celina63> the Arclight in Hollywood is a big Dome
[23:30] <celina63> if I remember correctly
[23:30] <missphinx> oh okay
[23:30] <j5> send to nisha?
[23:30] <xnbomb> why not, presumably she'll make sense of it
[23:30] <celina63> yeah
[23:30] <j5> yes
[23:31] <celina63> yeah, it's the one with the dome in front
[23:31] <missphinx> and it looks nothing like The Building - conscience
[23:31] <celina63> actually, a pretty cool theater
[23:31] * missphinx relaxes
[23:31] <celina63> but agreed... not the building we're looking for
[23:31] <j5> get me a PS of the thing and I'll send it
[23:31] <xnbomb> *sigh* ... back to my science homework
[23:32] <xnbomb> or not ... maybe it doesn't matter
[23:32] <j5> what was the boat gunter had?
[23:32] <xnbomb> Justin
[23:32] <j5> ty
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[23:34] <celina63> Arclight is a Marvel character
[23:34] <celina63> female
[23:35] <catherwood> we're doing idle spec tonight?
[23:35] <catherwood> or still puzzling?
[23:35] <celina63> both
[23:35] <Diandra> it's HHM. She faked her kidnapping and purposely messed up at Coachella. She's Arclight!
[23:35] <celina63> since the arclight pic didn't reveal anything worthwhile
[23:35] <Rowan> http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=170766#170766
[23:35] * Rowan goes to post to sa3
[23:35] <xnbomb> well, we still have a couple of puzzles on SD6, but they probably just lead to stale heist information
[23:36] <celina63> Rowan, you are DA BOMB
[23:36] <catherwood> it was unlocked?  where can i see?
[23:36] * missphinx posts about hhm on sa3
[23:36] <celina63> totally
[23:36] <Rowan> j5 - you posted faintly on sa3
[23:36] <missphinx> it's been a great day for puzzles! 
[23:36] <Rowan> isn't it frailty?
[23:36] <xnbomb> the ones that needed to be solved on SD6 about the trucking to San Diego, they got solved
[23:36] <catherwood> did the Blue Star-tulip lead anywhere?
[23:36] <xnbomb> it is frailty
[23:36] <j5> yes row
[23:36] <xnbomb> still haven't solved that one cath
[23:36] <Rowan> he goofed up his post
[23:36] <j5> oh, dammit
[23:36] <j5> wait
[23:36] <Rowan> hehe
[23:37] <Diandra> i dunno what's going on or where we're at...so I am useless
[23:37] <celina63> the only ones left are the *work ones, which will probably lead to passwords for the pics files
[23:37] <missphinx> :) j5
[23:37] <catherwood> i just posted about "look back subjectively" but have no idea which subjects i need to look at 
[23:37] <j5> fixed, ty rowan
[23:37] * celina63 will post about HHM on UF
[23:37] <Addlepated> it's solved cath
[23:38] <catherwood> all the numbers?
[23:38] <Addlepated> the 4a27 thing
[23:38] <Addlepated> yeah
[23:38] <xnbomb> yeah, that one's done
[23:38] <xnbomb> Rowan with the beautiful solve
[23:38] <catherwood> oh, that thread needs a [solved] label update
[23:38] <celina63> would HHM be under updates or interactions?
[23:38] <xnbomb> nice how they put the 0 in for the o to prevent it from being cracked
[23:39] <missphinx> uh huh
[23:39] <j5> yup
[23:39] <Diandra> i'd say she's an update
[23:39] <missphinx> I don't celina, start with updates
[23:39] <celina63> ok... I'll put it under the current June 28 update thread
[23:39] <j5> yes, updates
[23:39] <missphinx> we haven't been keeping up interactions anyway
[23:39] <j5> do a separate post
[23:39] <catherwood> Rowan, you're post just says "Too bad the picture isn't of the person..." but i have no idea what picture you're referring to there
[23:39] <Diandra> so I was right when I said ransom note before
[23:40] <xnbomb> totally
[23:40] <j5> you were you were
[23:40] <missphinx> yes!
[23:40] <Diandra> sonofabitch
[23:40] <xnbomb> i hope trent and roger are treating her well
[23:40] <j5> see, they do watch the channel
[23:40] <j5> payback for the fake sd card thing
[23:40] <j5> :o
[23:40] <Rowan> the picture from the insurance.zip
[23:40] <Diandra> yup...poor thing
[23:40] <missphinx> they were gonna let her go, but when Diandra had that great idea ... well :)
[23:40] <j5> lol
[23:40] <Diandra> hahaha
[23:40] <Diandra> hope i get a writing credit
[23:41] * catherwood just likes things to be self-explanatory
[23:41] <celina63> was that Virgil and Trent hauling Ian away in HHM's video?
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[23:41] <Diandra> she's gonna be pissed. Her MBA application is due on the first
[23:41] <xnbomb> virgil and someone in a hooded sweatshirt
[23:41] <tomtom> Hello, my friends.
[23:42] <Diandra> yes celina
[23:42] <Diandra> Trent and maybe Roger though
[23:42] <tomtom> Did HHM call again?
[23:42] <Diandra> http://iannet.lastresortretrieval.com/nisha/secret/mailinbox/Video_062805_001.3g2
[23:42] <xnbomb> shes been taken
[23:42] <missphinx> Oh my god
[23:42] <celina63> posted
[23:42] <missphinx> if you lighten that person enaxor
[23:42] <missphinx> it's emile?
[23:43] <Rowan> if its trent and roger - theyve changed clothes
[23:43] <missphinx> your post about the building
[23:43] <tomtom> Whoa.
[23:43] <missphinx> she's gone?
[23:43] <Rowan> the person in white might almost be virgil
[23:43] <Diandra> hmmm
[23:43] <missphinx> does anybody else have photoshop?
[23:43] <j5> hmmm
[23:43] <missphinx> check out the building
[23:43] <Rowan> tho it looks like trent gets hhm
[23:43] <catherwood> i have photoshop, but not the image
[23:44] <xnbomb> yeah that his big dark hand
[23:44] <j5> do we have a link to the pic of that theater?
[23:44] <xnbomb> +'s
[23:44] <Rowan> i like how the guy in the red has the hood over his face
[23:44] <xnbomb> Emile I presume
[23:44] <Rowan> the only good thing - ian seems pretty tied up so its doubtful he's dead
[23:44] <celina63> j5, I've been there.... it's not our building
[23:45] <Rowan> oh - i should probably email nisha, huh?
[23:45] <xnbomb> now those guys know how hard it is to carry someone like that, I hope they don't drop him
[23:45] <Rowan> that would suck
[23:45] <celina63> regarding our solves?
[23:45] <Rowan> ya
[23:45] <missphinx> I can't tell who it is
[23:45] <Rowan> unless j5 wants to
[23:45] <missphinx> I'll post the original and my thing.
[23:45] <Rowan> hhm must give us the real scoop when this is done
[23:45] <celina63> I should re-email her
[23:45] <celina63> esp. since HHM is now gone
[23:46] <Rowan> hmm - maybe hhm is also suzee
[23:46] <celina63> she won't have ANYONE there at this rate
[23:46] <celina63> :-)
[23:46] <tomtom> That makes me a sad panda. :-(
[23:46] <Rowan> oh - i should put this in the topic
[23:46] <xnbomb> good thing hhm managed to send that video off :-)
[23:46] * Rowan changes topic to 'HHM Kidnapped! That Lucky Girl! | Tomorrow 8:03 PDT The End Is Nigh! | Thumbnails: http://www.wonderweasels.org/heist/darkplace/images/ | /heart death:future  /darkplace hidden:secrets /mind synapse:tatumthink /forthcoming expediency:newconceptualization'
[23:46] <Rowan> hehe
[23:46] <Rowan> i was thinking that
[23:47] <xnbomb> like Ian ... quick on the send button
[23:47] <j5> rowan: I'm trying to get a pic of the building to attach in the email
[23:47] <j5> to nisha
[23:47] * Rowan changes topic to 'HHM Kidnapped! That Lucky Girl! | Tomorrow 8:03 PDT The End Is Nigh! | Thumbnails: http://tinyurl.com/8bzmp | /heart death:future  /darkplace hidden:secrets /mind synapse:tatumthink /forthcoming expediency:newconceptualization'
[23:47] <Rowan> ok
[23:47] * Rowan changes topic to 'HHM Kidnapped! That Lucky Girl! http://tinyurl.com/casld | Tomorrow 8:03 PDT The End Is Nigh! | Thumbnails: http://tinyurl.com/8bzmp | /heart death:future  /darkplace hidden:secrets /mind synapse:tatumthink /forthcoming expediency:newconceptualization'
[23:48] * xnbomb pictures hhm and ian each suspended over a pool, with a shark with lazer beams below
[23:48] <Rowan> hahaha
[23:48] <Mattazuma> "laser"
[23:49] <xnbomb> no, if they are on a shark, it's definitely lazer ;-)
[23:49] <Mattazuma> you need the quotes, though
[23:49] <xnbomb> good point
[23:49] <tomtom> I want sharks with frickin' lasers!
[23:49] <celina63> couldn't get sharks, so had to make due with seabass
[23:50] <celina63> "Arclight (Phillipa Sontag), a super-strong mutant who is always spoiling for a fight; she specializes in shockwave attacks. She served with the American ground forces in 'Nam, and is still haunted by memories of that place."1
[23:50] * Xuratu worries. (HAW!)
[23:50] <xnbomb> a pool full of koi with airsoft guns then
[23:50] <celina63> A Marauder, enemy of the X-Men
[23:50] <Rowan> great
[23:50] <Rowan> we've gone from stealing audis to Mutants
[23:51] <missphinx> http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/files/arclightcontrast_117.jpg
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[23:51] <missphinx> Is this Emile or Ian
[23:51] <enaxor> nice job guys
[23:51] <missphinx> enaxor - thank you for that post - who do you think it is?
[23:51] <enaxor> no idea
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[23:51] * ARGbot sets mode: +ao vpisteve vpisteve
[23:51] <j5> where did that come from?
[23:51] <celina63> sphinx, where did *that* come from
[23:51] <celina63> ??
[23:51] <missphinx> It came from the building picture
[23:51] <celina63> that looks like Emile
[23:51] <j5> which one?
[23:51] <celina63> oh, did you split it up or something?
[23:51] <xnbomb> Emile I think ... facial hair?
[23:51] <j5> emile!
[23:51] <enaxor> the last one that rowan found
[23:51] <missphinx> enaxor saw it - the arclight one!!!!! that's why I was frothing!!!
[23:52] <missphinx> http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=170773#170773
[23:52] <Rowan> really? was it in the reflection?
[23:52] <tomtom> Is it possible that arclights isn't any of the characters we already know of, but a character all in his/her own?
[23:52] <missphinx> Yes! Right there when I put the contrast up.
[23:52] <Rowan> its so hard to tell who it is
[23:52] <Rowan> thats so cool sphinx!
[23:52] <celina63> HORRY CHIT
[23:52] <j5> sphinx, email nisha
[23:52] <celina63> you guys are AMAZING
[23:52] <missphinx> it's not  me - it's enaxor - I just did the photoshop
[23:53] <missphinx> you guys email nisha
[23:53] <xnbomb> Emile and Virgil have been tag-teaming for a long time I suspect
[23:53] <xnbomb> you got that from the reflection on the glass globe?
[23:54] <j5> sent
[23:54] <Rowan> this is so effing cool
[23:54] <Addlepated> it's like a craps game in here
[23:54] <xnbomb> that's amazing
[23:54] <Mattazuma> new E-Mail from laura to Nisha
[23:54] <Addlepated> the table is hot!
[23:54] <enaxor> I don't have photoshop
[23:55] <j5> was that from the coachella card?
[23:55] <Diandra> i knew it was gonna be Emile
[23:55] * tomtom leans his hands on the table and gets them burned.
[23:55] <enaxor> nice job ms!
[23:55] <missphinx> okay, I posted the original too in case anybody else wants to look
[23:55] <j5> or the little bit?
[23:55] * Diandra sits back with a smug look on her face
[23:55] <Rowan> wow - laura sounds upset
[23:55] <tomtom> gooooOOOOO MS!
[23:55] <missphinx> Laura?
[23:55] <xnbomb> I'm a little baffled by her email
[23:55] <Rowan> http://iannet.lastresortretrieval.com/nisha/secret/mailinbox/0184.html
[23:55] <Mattazuma> Coachella retreiver
[23:55] <Rowan> so am i
[23:55] <celina63> is Laura in game?
[23:56] <celina63> Matt, you met her, personally?
[23:56] <Xuratu> More importantly, what is she talking about?
[23:56] <xnbomb> she's the one retriever we could never really place
[23:56] <j5> she's blaming Nisha
[23:56] <xnbomb> probably a plant
[23:56] <celina63> yeah, has to be
[23:56] <Xuratu> Oh, geez.
[23:56] * j5 sits back smugly
[23:56] * xnbomb joins him
[23:56] <missphinx> yeah, why would she pop up with something like that now.
[23:56] * tomtom doesn't know what everyone is so smug about, so copies them all.
[23:56] * catherwood is now known as catherrrand
[23:56] <j5> because they called the C5
[23:56] * Xuratu maintains composure -- Ian Yarbrough is behind the Uffizi heist.
[23:57] * catherrrand is now known as cather|away
[23:57] <Rowan> dude - he's in a trunk of a car tied up!
[23:57] <Mattazuma> I'm waiting for the E-Mail from Jane
[23:57] <j5> Xu is in the nile
[23:57] * Xuratu will go down with her ship.
[23:57] <missphinx> yes, I guess. And she's still pissed.
[23:57] <celina63> Matt, she can't make it
[23:57] <Mattazuma> too bad
[23:57] <xnbomb> maybe they didn't take hhms treo away ... will it work inside a trunk :-)
[23:57] <celina63> I've emailed Nisha, volunteering to help out in Jane's place... but no response
[23:58] <Xuratu> Rowan: Because Virgil had brains enough to do something about it *before* Ian completed the Heist.
[23:58] <Xuratu> The reason for the "moral compass" quotation is just that -- Ian was *quoting* Virgil!
[23:59] <xnbomb> heh
[23:59] <Xuratu> And how about the Florence slip?
[23:59] <Rowan> what florence slip?
[23:59] <celina63> wow, Xu... what color is the sun on your planet?  :-)
[23:59] <xnbomb> and the $1.3 million in up front money?
[23:59] <xnbomb> the stupid lease
[23:59] <Xuratu> The lease.
[23:59] <Rowan> his rainy day fund i doubt is that big
[23:59] <Rowan> the lease is a fake
[23:59] * Xuratu will go down with her ship. :P
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