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[Tarrsk]

omg... Phaedra, have I ever mentioned that I love you? So well put! And now I'm feelin' all weepy that the story's over again...

*returns to his paper, surreptitiously wiping away a tear... it's the damn dust, I tells ya!*

[kiro]

[ariock]

Re: Responses

[krystyn]

Some really good posts here. Yep.

I don't want to add any fuel to the fires which appear to be dwindling nicely (s'mores, anyone?), but kiro, why did it take you so long to come out with your opinions on this topic? If 48 hours between the ending of a months-long campaign was too long for you to judge as prudent for Elan to give us the A-OK on distribution of DVD content, then why wait a few weeks like you did? It's like you came out of nowhere.

I've been on the other side of the curtain, and can I tell you? Even after just several weeks, one's brain is scrambled. It's a glorious, eggy mess, and it's all very fun, but logistically speaking, there is still reality: the rent needs to get paid, the family is desperately wishing for time with you again, your bed never looked so palatial and decadent as in that moment, and there is this feeling not unlike grieving for a serious loss, and all the corny moments associated with graduating high school, or taking a state championship in the sport of your choice ...

48 hours, dude. You have felt the ending was messed up, and I feel bad for you for that. There is so much there that was so gorgeous to me - I got to hear that audio file with the added singing in one of the combat training events, but I also posted it on the web, so others could hear it. That, plus the Op's farewell to us, that was the pretty ribbon tying off all the joy and sadness and air raid sirens and "they're here"s.

So they came out to say hello in SF. Can you honestly blame them? I mean, my goodness. Go to practically any stage play, anywhere - are you going to tell me you're not going to open the program and look at the bios or names before the house lights dim and Act I begins? Because that's even 'messier' than this ARG supposedly was. Would you have the actors scamper back to their dressing rooms without a curtain call? Will you leave your bouquet of roses for the leading lady with the stage manager, to be delivered later, when she's washed the makeup from her face and dressed in her modern clothes?

Honestly. You may have a particular way you wanted this game to end, and I will respect that, but you kinda came on a little strong by waiting so many days, and then pooping in three different threads (bang! bang! bang!) with your displeasure.

Hrumph, I say!

[vpisteve]

Well, I had responded earlier with a really nice, point-by-point long post, but it got deleted with the forum rebuild. Too bad, it was really good, full of infallable logic and cutting satire, but I lack the energy to re-hash everything, as this has all become very tiresome. Plus, it seems that I apparently am not supposed to have an opinion because I've got a little "Site Admin" beneath my name.

But, lest I be regarded as a pompous asshat, my 'sour grapes' post above was an attempt to lighten things up a little, and the childishness of it was in response to the childishness of Kiro's sour grapes, so I stand by it. Kiro, you were acting like a baby, and it was embarrassing to watch, despite the backpedaling you've done since your early posts about desperately wanting a DVD and applauding those who were seeking to get the IPs of those who were making copies and distributing them.

So here it is, in all of its simplicity. Sure you're entitled to your opinion, but it's obvious to me that you were just looking for things to be pissed at to make yourself feel better, as none of your holy trinity of points is valid. To whit:

[Phaedra]

[kiro]

[kiro]

[vpisteve]

[archon]

Hay guyz, what's going on in this thread?

[thebruce]

a relative newbie is insulting arguing with a forum administrator.

let the fireworks begin!

[ThaJinx]

I honestly don't understand why people are giving kiro so much trouble. His posts are intelligent, concise, and without a target or any intention of malice. He is certainly entitled to his own opinion, even if the greater majority does not agree with him. I can understand why loyalists and other puppetmasters (both past and current) would disagree with him and maybe not agree with any of his points, which is your right. It's the name calling I don't understand.

kiro, a few things:

I can sort of see your point regarding breaking the curtain. Personally, I'm rather indifferent to them, as it was their only chance to get to meet a good chunk of their players face to face, and if that's important to them then I think it's within their rights. Your comments regarding perhaps ending the story arc earlier hasn't gone unheard, either. It's really easy to find things that you don't agree with in things that you mostly very much like, saying things like "I would have done this," or "they could've tried it this way." I didn't have a problem with them showing up, but then again I wasn't there. I think it all just depends on the player. Myself, I'm not disappointed in any way. You, on the other hand, have your own view. Gotta respect, even though I don't agree.

I'm not as upset about the DVD issue as you are. I have full mirrors of the ILB server, every single small audio clip, and all of the assembled humptydumpty.html files sitting on my harddrive, so essentially the only thing I don't have that's on the DVD are the outtakes and any other small extra that they put on it. Yeah, I'd feel really awesome if I got something to commemorate the game, but I still have the satisfaction of knowing that for a few weeks I was Lt. the_jinx of the Operator's crew, DVD or no. I've got 98% of the DVD's contents, the experience of the game, and a massive group of new friends that I'll not soon lose contact with. That's enough commemoration to satisfy me, but this is of course my own personal view, and I'll admit I'm usually more positive about these sorts of things than most others. I just don't personally have a problem with it. If anything, though, I can at least understand your frustration.

Don't really have much else to respond to, mainly because I'm not one for flame-fanning, but I don't understand why so few are open to criticisms that I think are perfectly logical given the right frame of mind. Can't apologize for anybody here, kiro, but I'd like to at least thank you personally for being civil a good portion of the time.

...and sorry for the super late response.

[bagsbee]

How this thread went so far from my original post, I'll never know. I blame the [google]Internet[/google].

Walks like a troll, talks like a troll, posts like a troll, it's a troll.


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