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[johnny5]

[rose]

sapagoo wrote:

[johnny5]

[Arana]

Why are John Whitecloud and Franz Mueller still listed as "alive" on their respective card pages?

It appears that the status of the 1945 characters is according to that time frame, but still the comics indicate that both were killed. Was this not the case? Are they both merely wounded? Was this a staged event to trick Otto who appears to be watching from the window? Will this be updated when the hidden powers spot this spec? Time will tell.

I agree with spec that Mueller might not have shot Whitecloud, but a man will do a lot to protect a brother.

Why did Maria/Martin lie to Whitecloud when he saved them and say that they were being robbed by Otto's men, only to tell Whitecloud later in the bar the whole story about the treasure and the hanged man?

Oops! Head just asploded! See you tomorrow!

[Abraxas]

@Shad0
Oh, that update...totally forgot about it. I think I didn't even read the text underneath the picture...

@Arana
LCP had slip-ups before, By that alone, I wouldn't read too much into that. Remember Vic was listed as alive a long time after he died. For some reason it doesn't seem to be that easy to change the status.
But yes...I don't believe that Mueller killed Johnny Whitecloud. I'll open a new spec about this in a minute.

[JWin]

Here's what's confusing me ... The relationship between Mueller and M. Halder.

First, M. Halder lies outright when Whitecloud approaches them being questioned, saying that they were being robbed rather than questioned. (The kid is smart and observant; "he" obviously knew what was really going on.)

Second, "he" claims Mueller is his uncle; given the different last names, one would assume that to be on "his" mother's side.

But when Svetlana gave Father Mueller the gun, she persuaded him to kill Whitecloud by holding over Mueller's head that his *brother* would otherwise be liquidated in Russia. If Henryk Halder were his brother, though, they'd have the same last name ...

Something isn't adding up here ...

[konamouse]

I'm not a Catholic expert, but don't priests sometimes take different names when they are called to service?

Or, he could still be his brother-in-law.

Just thinking outloud (while I rushed back to my hotel room for the update and forgot I was now in the Central Time Zone - so I'm too early and will be in a conference when it really happens).

[rose]

I don't think priests change their last name.

[ruminatinmind]