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[39C] The 39 Clues

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aliceinwunderland
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katsmom wrote:

aliceinwunderland wrote:

katsmom wrote:

Hey, I resemble that remark! There is a good search engine her alice Laughing

Huh? I hate it when the joke is on me and I don't get. Crying or Very sad

I am a bit crazy, and you are the one always remindiing people to use the search engine Laughing

What did you say about card 11?

I went back and edited my earlier post to avoid double posting since no one had posted after me. But there is more to say, so...

There was LOADS of interesting stuff with card #11. That kept me busy for days. As you recall, I had theorized that Disco Volante would be a secret entryway Rock On

(is that the reason you told me to hurry up and read the book?). I did spend quite a bit of time trying to find a real music store in Venice named Disco Volante. I think I can safely say that it does not exist. There was so much interesting information reflected back in the window of the store (gondola, etc). I don't recall if I posted it, but I did find out that the red and white pole is used to tie up the gondola to and they used to have different paint schemes depending upon whose boats were allowed to tie up to it. I think that they are all painted red and white now, though. I was most intrigued by what I thought was the "Hidden Note" -- the name of the webpage for the card, which turn out to read "Rembrant's Secret". That sent me off on a serious investigation as to what his secret might be. I got several hits and it was all very interesting stuff. No one here had much to say about it -- too much discussion about promo cards and lamenting the lack of stuff to do on the website. I found more than enough to stay occupied. Very Happy

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:22 am

katsmom
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what is Rembrandt's secret? To be honest, I'm spending most ofthe time combing the books looking for things we've missed. I really need to look closer at those cards. Embarassed

The author said the broken shards had three meanings. I can see the broken table, the harpsacord, but not hte third one? Any ideas?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:24 am

aliceinwunderland
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katsmom wrote:

The author said the broken shards had three meanings. I can see the broken table, the harpsichord, but not the third one? Any ideas?

I am not sure that it is sufficient to just say "harpsichord". jvolgmann theorized that Ian hitting the wire and blowing it all up was one "False Note". At the risk of quoting myself (from http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=585163&search_id=1880302904#585163),I had another interpretation:

aliceinwunderland wrote:

I would have to say that the notes Amy played were the "false notes". Another meaning could be a misleading letter. Did A&D ever pass something off as a clue that wasn't? Not able to think of anything, but surely there has been some sort of subterfuge or deception involving a note or something along those lines.

Like did Alistair's clue really get them anywhere in the right direction?
Sometimes I think that you don't read my posts. Sad

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:39 am

aliceinwunderland
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Rembrandt's secret

katsmom wrote:

what is Rembrandt's secret?

That's what I want to know!!! I did post a theory http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=577954&search_id=1242796805#577954, but I don't have anything solid. I uncovered a very interesting article that I thought went well with the answer to the puzzle (dead aged face), but I must not have ever posted about it. Here's the link:http://www.aftau.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5709

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:53 am

aliceinwunderland
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Re: Use of cards

katsmom wrote:

I'm going to attempt to make notes on each of the cards used. ... Now if all of these have a connection and use by the end of book 3, we haven't seen much at all yet. I think that they might carry over into other books. There are just way too many unused cards for them to only be used with book 3

I am not sure what info belongs on your list and what doesn't. I think that it might be useful to keep up with translations of foreign phrases and hidden messages. I started looking through my cards and I remembered that someone had posted the translation of the Chinese symbols (it was you!):

katsmom wrote:

Some other things I've dug up. Eric Weiss was a CIA spy for tv program alias, The historical figures on the cards are real, on Gordon Klose's card, the second part of his ID number is the zipcode for Waltham MA. The Chinese words on card 42 are DANGEROUS PIRATE

And another tidbit for Card #8 (Ophir Dhupam):

Maggie wrote:

katsmom wrote:

There are 5 numbers on the card. Using the A=1 cypher we get USTAD. That is a form of classical Indian Music, or the word for a Master or Guru of classical Indian Music.

Ustad is also the first name of the architect hired to build the Taj Mahal.

So, I would say that card #8 is related to Card #12 (Taj Mahal). Also note that the title of OD's next film is "The 4 Quarters of my Heart" and on the Taj Mahal card, it mentions that there are 4 sections in the TM. And I guess that card #31 (HALO) is also connected to the TM since twenty-one year old British tourist. Fiona Sarn attempted to evade detection by jumping into the TM. Methinks she was an Ekat!

I think that alot of what belongs on your list has likely been posted here, so I am doing some searches.

dragongirl76 wrote:

Finally, returning back to Venice, I haven't been able to come up with a Google result connecting Venice & Disco Volante with Mary Shelley's valuable Frankenstein manuscript. Maybe significant is the fact that like Houdini's poster, some text stands out from the rest. In Shelley's case, "the dreams of forgotten alchymists" (again with the alchymists...)

So, if I understand your purpose correctly, you would you want to connect Card #13 with card #11 due to the Venice connection.
I just saw that Maria Marapao wrote a Haiku that has Frankenstein in it, so her card (#7) should be connected to card #13.

Card #46 (Poison Ring) is related to Card #47 (Snake Charmer) by connection that it has a Cobra on it and the poison card refers to King Cobra venom on the back. Natalie is also related to card #46 due to the Halloween party when she poisoned one of her guests.

Card #15(Telegram) is related to the Titanic (card #4) and Anne Cahill (aka Nella Chain). The Titanic might also be listed as related to Loch Ness Monster card #27 (which I don't have). It is not a direct connection, but that could be where we need to document even the tenuous connections. And card #49 (Paul Addison) needs to be related to card#27.

Lilya Chernova (card#24) is a mathlete and Dan Cahill (card #4) won a prize for getting the highest score on the state math test.

This is going to get to be impossible to track! Perhaps you need something more advanced that just a list. Even an Excel spreadsheet would be lacking -- it really calls for a relational database.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:28 pm

Knerdherd
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card theories and GIFTS!!!!!!
what i think and know

another card link theory that i know has been posted before is that of the card 24 lilya, linking with card #14 imposters, because lilya could be wearing the stolen french crown jewls.

As for surveillance camera codes, another possibility i thought of was to do a card combo of surveillance camera and an agent. then you could see where they went and if they found anything. kind of like Double Cross, just in the computer.

by the way, katsmom, you forgot card #51, Mechanical sense Laughing

And last, but wayyyyyyy not least, I JUST SAW MY SISTER BRING HOME A CARD PACK AND MY MOM BRING HOME ONE FALSE NOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOO Very Happy

Now just have to try to resist the temptation to rip them both open untill Christmas.

Sad

darn...

i am begining to HATE Evil or Very Mad

lab rat. i just can't get a better score!!!!! Crying or Very sad

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:16 pm

aliceinwunderland
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Theory about Branch Founders

I always thought something didn't really make sense about the categorization of the "Founders" cards. As far as my understanding of the word, a founder would need to be there at the beginning. From the good folks at dictionary.com:

Quote:

One who establishes something or formulates the basis for something

It begs the question, why do we have these founders that are from totally different time periods? Besides, shouldn't the founders be Luke, Jane, Katherine, and Thomas? (Did I get that right?). So, it got me thinking that there could be another meaning to the term. When you are looking for a clue, you are a hunter and when you find it you are a... ? FOUNDER... meaning they FOUND something. Very Happy

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:54 pm

Tennekrone
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As promised...

As promised (I hate that phrase) I have my code: 23XM94FCX2

Some people are like apples, and others are like people. Some people (people) will take all the best part of other people (apples), enjoy them, savor them, and then throw them out when they have no more use for them.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:29 pm

bando2
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Re: Use of cards

Quote:

This is going to get to be impossible to track! Perhaps you need something more advanced that just a list. Even an Excel spreadsheet would be lacking -- it really calls for a relational database.

I don't know anything about databases but in my organizing of theories I was thinking of grouping cards by feature or topic and then just telling people yo use the search function and look for specific card number This also would eliminate duplicates that would occur if we listed theory by card number, but the search would be relatively simple. I don't know, just a suggestion[/quote]

Edit:Because some spelling mistakes are just embarrassing.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:32 pm

aliceinwunderland
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Re: Use of cards

bando2 wrote:

Quote:

This is going to get to be impossible to track! Perhaps you need something more advanced that just a list. Even an Excel spreadsheet would be lacking -- it really calls for a relational database.

I don't know anything about databases but in my organizing of theories I was thinking of grouping cards by feature or topic and then just telling people yo use the search function and look for specific card number This also would eliminate duplicates that would occur if we listed theory by card number, but the search would be relatively simple. I don't know, just a suggestion.

Edit:Because some spelling mistakes are just embarrassing.

Pity that I missed the embarrassing typo. Laughing

Where were you planning on organizing your theories for searching? Really need to go on a wiki or something. Besides apparently no one here but me uses the search functions. Sad

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:45 pm

aliceinwunderland
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Re: As promised...

Tennekrone wrote:

As promised (I hate that phrase) I have my code: 23XM94FCX2

Thanks! Now we can call off katsmom. ... off of you anyway... DragonGirl is still in danger. Laughing

That gives me 58. Can anyone tell me if I am caught up or still missing one?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:48 pm

Wind Lane
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Re: As promised...

aliceinwunderland wrote:

Tennekrone wrote:

As promised (I hate that phrase) I have my code: 23XM94FCX2

Thanks! Now we can call off katsmom. ... off of you anyway... DragonGirl is still in danger. Laughing

That gives me 58. Can anyone tell me if I am caught up or still missing one?

Just to tease you.......wouldn't it be funny if it was all about getting others to take your code instead of how many codes you could get? Wink

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:57 pm

Hunter6
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I was looking at the clue finder guide

Is it possible when they make the next card pack (for books 4, 5, and 6) they would make a different for all the number cards? (Like a different card #1)

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:58 pm

Tennekrone
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RE: Use of cards

To track the different connections of card to card, one could use web of sorts. The simplest ones would just have the card numbers attached to each other by lines, the more complex ones adding theories, reasons for attachments, pictures of cards...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:01 pm

aliceinwunderland
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Who are the Branch Leaders?

Before I came up with the theory on a different definition of founder, I was thinking that founders might be a term for the Branch leaders. Then I recalled that card #50 (Heinrich Heinrichson) had a puzzle that referred to the Kabras as the Lucian Branch Leaders. That got me to wondering who are the other leaders of the branches. Do we know? I think someone mentioned that Grace was the Cahill branch leader and with her death it would be either Amy or Dan.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:04 pm

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