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[SPEC] Seasons in Perplex City
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[SPEC] Seasons in Perplex City

I know that this is probably not a solve for anything and doesn't have any relevance EXCEPT for purposes of better understanding the story, but here we go.

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I think the seasons are alittle different in Perplex City. Our seasons go Spring -> Summer -> Fall -> Winter.

Well, Perplex City obviously has a summer time at the same time ours is because of an excerpt fromthis post on thescarlettkite:
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But, just to keep you happy, I'm an Archer. July 2nd. I love having a summer birthday - means I can always have a picnic or some open-air party. Smile


But then you go to the main page of the Sentinel and find this topic on the right hand side:
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Think Tailored for Spring

Generally, whenever a newspaper website posts a news article about what fashion is "in season", its before the season arrives and not during it or after it.

So? I dunno what season Perplex City is in right now, but I know for sure that our summer and their summer is the same because of Scarlett's birthday excerpt. ...and it seems like their spring is going to arrive after that

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Re: [SPEC] Seasons in Perplex City

Haunt wrote:
I know that this is probably not a solve for anything and doesn't have any relevance EXCEPT for purposes of better understanding the story, but here we go.

[spec]
I think the seasons are alittle different in Perplex City. Our seasons go Spring -> Summer -> Fall -> Winter.

Well, Perplex City obviously has a summer time at the same time ours is because of an excerpt fromthis post on thescarlettkite:
Quote:

But, just to keep you happy, I'm an Archer. July 2nd. I love having a summer birthday - means I can always have a picnic or some open-air party. Smile


But then you go to the main page of the Sentinel and find this topic on the right hand side:
Quote:
Think Tailored for Spring

Generally, whenever a newspaper website posts a news article about what fashion is "in season", its before the season arrives and not during it or after it.

So? I dunno what season Perplex City is in right now, but I know for sure that our summer and their summer is the same because of Scarlett's birthday excerpt. ...and it seems like their spring is going to arrive after that


..You are American, I'm guessing.. well I'm pretty sure your seasons are different to ours in England and as the game is London based I would guess that it's constancy would be with the English seasons more so than any other countries.
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Think could be the name for a company or a product, as in Think is being made ready for the spring season. Whatever that could mean.
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Based on this article [OOG] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2233949.stm [/OOG] i'd say the british and american seasons are pretty much the same. Based specificly on the picture caption that says Autumn ( commonly also call Fall in the US but still called Autumn when being formal) now lasts passed Oct. I surmise that UK seasons start 1 month earlier then US seasons ( which are based on equinoxes and solstices ) but they still fall in the same order.


I think what Haunt was tring to say was that he is specing that perplex city seasons are Autumn -> Summer -> Spring -> Winter or something weird like that ... but i think he is over looking the possability that they could be looking at the NEXT spring almost a full year away ... that would make perplexians pretty fashion obssessed but based on the whole shoe email thing i don't find that so far fetched...
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<PSH> wrote:
Based on this article [OOG] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2233949.stm [/OOG] i'd say the british and american seasons are pretty much the same. Based specificly on the picture caption that says Autumn ( commonly also call Fall in the US but still called Autumn when being formal) now lasts passed Oct. I surmise that UK seasons start 1 month earlier then US seasons ( which are based on equinoxes and solstices ) but they still fall in the same order.


I think what Haunt was tring to say was that he is specing that perplex city seasons are Autumn -> Summer -> Spring -> Winter or something weird like that ... but i think he is over looking the possability that they could be looking at the NEXT spring almost a full year away ... that would make perplexians pretty fashion obssessed but based on the whole shoe email thing i don't find that so far fetched...


For the seasons to be the Autumn -> Summer -> Spring -> Winter, the planet that Perplex City is on would have to rotate the opposite way to Earth, much like Venus.. as it's an ARG I'm sure anything could happen but still ... probably just a reference, like PSH said, to next Spring
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Rob_Riv wrote:


For the seasons to be the Autumn -> Summer -> Spring -> Winter, the plantet that Perplex City is on would have to rotate the opposite way to Earth, much like Venus.. as it's an ARG I'm sure anything could happen but still ... probably just a reference, like PSH said, to next Spring



........que?

we have seasons because of the earth's tilt. ie: the axis of the earth is titled some 23 degrees. i mean if you're going to say its rotating the other way, what at exactly the same tilt? otherwise hehe yeah, would work. seasons are opposite. also, would be very odd for a planet to spin opposite direction of the rest of the orbiting bodies in its system, translation: venus is whack man!

so hopefully you wont forget australia maaate, where our seasons are mucho opposito to yours, and remember perplexcity could be on an island continent in the southern region of their globe.

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firefox wrote:
Rob_Riv wrote:


For the seasons to be the Autumn -> Summer -> Spring -> Winter, the plantet that Perplex City is on would have to rotate the opposite way to Earth, much like Venus.. as it's an ARG I'm sure anything could happen but still ... probably just a reference, like PSH said, to next Spring



........que?

we have seasons because of the earth's tilt. ie: the axis of the earth is titled some 23 degrees. i mean if you're going to say its rotating the other way, what at exactly the same tilt? otherwise hehe yeah, would work. seasons are opposite. also, would be very odd for a planet to spin opposite direction of the rest of the orbiting bodies in its system, translation: venus is whack man!

so hopefully you wont forget australia maaate, where our seasons are mucho opposito to yours, and remember perplexcity could be on an island continent in the southern region of their globe.


If the planet rotated the opposite way you'd have the sun rising in the west instead of the east, but you wouldn't get the seasons coming in a different order. And with north and south being pretty arbitrary you could just switch them around and it would be exactly the same.

The difference between spring and autumn is just that one is when it's getting warmer and the other is when it's getting colder.
If it goes winter -> autumn -> summer -> spring, what exactly is supposed to be happening? Do non-existent leaves fall off trees in autumn or do the leaves stay on throughout winter? Maybe the dead leaves jump off the ground, attach themselves to trees and start turning green?
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my theory is that they are in a huge bio-dome and the seasons are generated by a computer
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what he means is



if earth was spinning clockwise (in this diagram) and say we start at the summer solstice, our normal earth would go through: summer, autumn, winter, spring

but bizzaro earth would: spring winter autumn summer

eg. reversed. thats about it in a nutshell.

seasons RELATIVE to us would be s,w,a,s .. maybe i didnt make that clear? Razz of course their seasons would be something like: hot coldest cold hotest relative to normal earth spinning at hottest, cold, codest, hot. what happens to plant life and vegetation on the planet as it spins through that different cycle? ask a biological/atmospheric scientist, they would certainly not have the same types of weather. i dont think they were suggesting its going back in time, weatherwise, it just has an opposite seasonal change.

how did this come about again anywho? either way its taken a bit OT. feel free to further discuss tho, planet vegetation models for a planetary equivalent of earth travelling in an opposite orbit is not my area of expertise. Wink

edit: to further clarify, autumn and spring are virtually identical rotational wise. leaves fall off in autumn because its approaching winter eg cold, in this case their spring becomes their autumn, their autumn becomes their spring, winter and summer should remain in same place.

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It's impossible for them to be in a different order actually. Thnk of it this way.

Winter
Season that gets warmer (we call spring)
Summer
Season that gets colder (we call autumn)


Now it has to get colder between summer and winter, and warmer between winter and summer. If they are any different it's in name only. spinning an opposite direction (itself, not around the sun) would simply change the times of day that it's light and dark on different places of the planet. Spining oppositely around the sun would essentially have no effect. it'd still be winter when the earth is tilted away from the sun, and still summer when it's tilted towards it.

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Rob_Riv wrote:
For the seasons to be the Autumn -> Summer -> Spring -> Winter, the plantet that Perplex City is on would have to rotate the opposite way to Earth, much like Venus.. as it's an ARG I'm sure anything could happen but still ... probably just a reference, like PSH said, to next Spring


No matter which way the planet rotates or orbits, spring will still precede summer, etc. -- by the definition of what the seasons really are. E.g. the hot season 'down under' happens to fall in Oct - Jan months, but they still call it their summer down there, no? Maybe I'm off base. Aussies (hopefully that's an ok term), help me out here...
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Rolerbe wrote:
No matter which way the planet rotates or orbits, spring will still precede summer, etc. -- by the definition of what the seasons really are. E.g. the hot season 'down under' happens to fall in Oct - Jan months, but they still call it their summer down there, no? Maybe I'm off base. Aussies (hopefully that's an ok term), help me out here...


Yeah, they're exactly the same in name and order, they are just at different times of the year.
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Salkunh wrote:
my theory is that they are in a huge bio-dome and the seasons are generated by a computer


See, I've had this idea in my head since the beginning, but I've never been sure if it's because I read it as perspex city when it first came out. You know, one of those things you never really think too much about, but you just realise that that's what the picture in your head is like.
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Rolerbe wrote:
Rob_Riv wrote:
For the seasons to be the Autumn -> Summer -> Spring -> Winter, the plantet that Perplex City is on would have to rotate the opposite way to Earth, much like Venus.. as it's an ARG I'm sure anything could happen but still ... probably just a reference, like PSH said, to next Spring


No matter which way the planet rotates or orbits, spring will still precede summer, etc. -- by the definition of what the seasons really are. E.g. the hot season 'down under' happens to fall in Oct - Jan months, but they still call it their summer down there, no? Maybe I'm off base. Aussies (hopefully that's an ok term), help me out here...


Yes but.. the original quote 'Think Tailored for Spring' .. didn't suggest any temperature just the name of the season, making what I said (kind of) make sense.
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Rob_Riv wrote:

Yes but.. the original quote 'Think Tailored for Spring' .. didn't suggest any temperature just the name of the season, making what I said (kind of) make sense.


Sorry we all jumped on you. No offense.

(/methinks this was just easier for all of us to work on than some of the puzzles Very Happy )
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