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Darkstar
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fimacmo wrote:
Once you even start considering the prize and the collective then you have to go down the lines of a lottery syndicate and is that what we are all here for? I'm stoney broke and £100k would be an answer toa lot of problems for me but at the end of the day this is all just a distraction . I came to play the game. I know that sounds absurdly idealistic. A bit of a prize would be great but actually solving it to me woiuld be the most rewarding thing. Confused

Bloody chump Twisted Evil

I didn't mention money in the first post, I just think we should all work together on this.
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fimacmo
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Darkstar - please don't get me wrong. I completely agree with you - I just don't think it is safe to assume that everyone here does. In someways that makes me think "Oh well" and in some ways it makes me a bit cross that people are content to sit and be part of the collective (which I intend to be) and then take the prize and run. The prize never interested me. The idea of collective consciousness did and the power of it. But to coin a phrase, power (or a prize) corrupts.

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fimacmo
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And, btw, I don't have any answers. I don't know what we can do about this. Policing it or trying to ostracise the people we suspect seems fascistic and completely at odds with what we are here for.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:19 pm
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DrumMajor
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It seems that the PMs don't want us to work together as a community. First if they wanted everyone to get to play they would make information public rather than sending it to only 333 people. Second they're offering a large reward they seem like they're trying to keep people from sharing.

Saying that I see it this way, if we are in fact still supposed to act together than doing so is the smart thing to od. If the people who got parcels were supposed to work alone than if they share thier info with other people that's thier problem and we parcelless shouldn't worry about it, we take the clues and work with them.

One last thought, if this were turly supposed to be a secclusionary game they would have sepperated people from the beggining rather than bringing them together for a few puzzles than denying most the right to play.

Its up to the members of the 333, to share or not to share that is the question.
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jamesi
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I want to add to this discussion without making it seem like I'm laying down the official word from up high at UnFiction, so let me make clear that I am only interpreting the situation as a player and a community member, and not an admin.

First of all, I see no harm in the formation of groups who are interested in competing for this prize. However, these forums shouldn't (and won't) be broken up into sections for particular groups. Adding to what has been said in this thread and in others, if you are interested in becoming part of a group, I feel that the responsibility is yours to maintain and organize that group is a seperate workspace, and not here.

Secondly, now that groups are forming, and other places are being set up for those groups, and this is no place to start spamming for recruitment, or flaming against other individuals or groups for their efforts in this game. That would be bad. Annoying bad.

Again, just my opinion. I'm sure that 99% of the playing audience will use their heads and follow their hearts, but you can never forsee what the other 1% might be up to. I just hope everyone remembers that this is a game, and games are fun. FUN.

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dopefiend
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here's what i think we should do, and i think if we're all in agreement we should make a thread where we can all state it for the record...

Whoever finds the cube pockets £50,000.

If someone discovers the location of the cube but can't physically get there then the £50,000 is shared between "locator/s" and "finder/s"

the finder of the cube can decide which other players deserve whatever proprtion of his share for their contributions to the finding of the cube. (so if JebJoya discovers where the cube is because of a solve made by POTUS, Jeb can give POTUS a share of his £50,000 at his own discretion.

the remaining £50,000 goes towards a massive unfiction party with free drinks etc. i'm afraid to suggest that this party be held in the UK as the game's based here! so instead i'll suggest that we could split the pot and have 2 or three simultaneous parties around the world.

I think this is really the only practical solution; it means there is a clear winner, but those who contribute more win something too, and we all get a nice treat for helping it all along. Imagine what sort of a party £50,000 will buy!

I christen this idea "dopefiend's charter"

who's with me? Very Happy
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Money

Perhaps we could elect a charity to give the money to if we win it as a group.
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Marrec
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Just to throw my two cents into this utterly usless discussion... I like the idea of using the money from PXC to fund another ARG. A spin off, if you will. Sort of like Orbital Colony, but actually gets off the ground. *tee hee*
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pneumatik
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I think the game will (probably) be fun, and I expect that either the money will evaporate before the game is over or someone will win it and do something with it that doesn't benefit me at all. I think everyone should have this attitude, because from a legal point of view I suspect that the person who wins the money will be able to do whatever they want with it. I encourage that person to not keep it all for themselves, but, really, I think what to do with the prize money is something we should worry about when it happens.

Though if I do win, I support the "doepfiend charter" :-]
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Porka25
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im not playin the game 4 the money, yea like we all say it wud b nice, but a game that has this much involvement and participation and the main basis of it being free just makes it gr8 fun, if id paid 2 play then the prize money may b a bit more of a focus, but imo. this is just 4 the fun.

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vibration13
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I'm not arrogant enough (well... I'm nearly arrogant enough- but not quite) to assume or even imagine that I'd be able to solve this game and win the prize alone. It's going to be tough. And I thought "Brussel sprout " when the email puzzle said "small green vegetable". I think the game will be designed so that the actual prize is delivered in as fair a way as possible. After all, Perplexcity is a meritocracy, so there is no reason to assume the winner of this thing won't deserve it - if there is to be one winner at all.

It's just too early to say.
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Morning_Star
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We should just be 'Team Unfiction'. That way we work together everyone in unfiction is part. We all submit using the same password (or however it works) share cards, solutions and play it as an arg should be played.

If we find the Cube it will obviously be a community effort - how the moneys divided is up for discussion, whether its a few hundred each or an ARG or whatever.

Everyones helping to solve together we get this prize together - its the only way we can ensure the community spirit we have at the moment will remain as strong.

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(i'm pretty sure this is what was being suggested at the start of the thread)

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James Lyon
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There'll be more to this than just the cards. The PM's aren't stupid. They know that someone's going to scan in the cards as soon as they get them. They'll know people will work in teams. So I wouldn't worry about it at this stage of the game. Being on your own or being a team will, I reckon, be equally beneficial.

Otherwise, if anyone's worried about backstabbing or cheating, my advice would be: treat it like a game! That's what an ARG is, isn't it? If you have to be paranoid about what people are going to do to win the money or get the most points, just make it like that's part of the game. That way you'll still be having fun. I hope. Let's see how it pans out.
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firefox
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Re: Money

chrome_halo wrote:
Perhaps we could elect a charity to give the money to if we win it as a group.


i second this if there will be a reward. im broke, but have enough to get by day to day.. obviously since here i am connected to the net, etc... there are needier people out there, and the only reward one needs for solving a puzzle is self-satisfaction.

sidenote, i think that there will be no reward, and that it was shown only to add another dimension to the game, draw parallels to majestic, and lull you all into a false sense of security. again, the game playing you, not the other way around. in this game you NEVER know more than what they want you to know. they are holding all the cards Rolling Eyes Wink

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GuyP
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I think pneumatik's right. If the community element is important to you (and it is to me) then just keep playing as part of the community. If you post solves (and you should) then do so in the full knowledge that there will be thousands of people out there using Google, finding your post and using it for their own benefit, without a shred of collaboration. Do it in the knowledge that they might win the prize and go on a luxury cruise with the money. Become Zen about the fact that you can and will be exploited for your altruism, and make an active decision to be an active part of the community anyway. There is no other workable solution.

To paraphrase Trainspotting: "I didn't choose the prize. I chose something else."

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