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[META] Problems with Puzzlecards/Need new forum?
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Muffin
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Preparation - a rallying call!

Right. We have a little time before the cards hit the shelves.

Just enough to seriously organise ourselves to deal with the HUGE nature of this when it kicks off (again Smile ).

Imagine on release day, everyone gets 4 packs, and wants to discuss each of there 24 cards - chaos!

So, I thought I would start this thread nice and early so everyone can give there opinion on the best way to handle it. This isn't a normal ARG - we actually have a chance to create a system before everything hits the fan...

So, over to you guys...

[EDIT: merged with existing thread. yanka.]
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:07 pm
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I don't think the cards can be addressed in a single thread; unless we're talking about a meta-type thread dedicated solely to ordering/purchasing/mailing issues. As far as the individual cards, we'll most likely have a separate forum set up for them, with a thread per card - like the one talked about here Smile
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Cheers for that yanka - hadn't spotted this thread and was in a bit of a rush!

Agree with the majority of whats been said here. To come back to idea that was mooted around - I think it would be a really good idea to have a dedicated puzzle card section that is mod controlled?

I see it working like this - say three people start a topic in 'Puzzles' about a card (very likely given everyone and his dog will be buying packets at the same time). One is getting hit more, so that gets moved - with a possible format check a la previous posts - and dicsussion can continued in the most efficient and cleanest way possible. The remaining extraneous card topics can then be locked and the 'official' topic referenced.

I can see this will lead to a possible need for dedicated card moderators - could we had mods who can only access the 'Puzzles' section and the new 'Card Specific' section?

My 2p...
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Just to throw my 54 shekels in the mix (no, I have no idea the value of shekels compared to cents, nor do I care Wink):

First off, I like the idea of having a separate heading of "Peplex City: Puzzlecards" or something, with threads dedicated to individual solves and cards etc... however, as far as the pictures/maps on the backs of the cards, I suggest that we limit that to one thread. There is already an existing (quite good) thread in this topic already, and it's definitely a work that will require collaboration, and having to access multiple threads to find out where your new card fits in with someone else's card really doesn't make "collaborative effort sense", if ya know what I mean...

Otherwise, I'm in complete concurrance.
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This all seems very thorough...I suspect we're not going to get all 333 cards for a good while even if everyone does buy them all at once, the PMs are going to spin this out (suggested I think by wave 0.5 in the corner). And just how rare are the rare ones going to be. I haven't had this much fun since my World Wild Life Fund Panini sticker album.

I think it's worth bearing in mind that at least some of the cards are going to spin out into something grander (there seems to be a bit more to Whipsmart than just the word search as there's also the website etc) and will benfit from other threads.

But I guess that's all common sense Smile
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How many cards are there all up? approx 250?

One thread wont work because there will be at the 'very minimum'.. 250 comments..
If you have a topic for each card there is going to be at least 250 topics..

I suggest that there is a topic for each colour.. and within each topic, threads on corresponding cards. That would keep everything all nice and organised.

Sound good?

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invfish wrote:
How many cards are there all up? approx 250?

One thread wont work because there will be at the 'very minimum'.. 250 comments..
If you have a topic for each card there is going to be at least 250 topics..

I suggest that there is a topic for each colour.. and within each topic, threads on corresponding cards. That would keep everything all nice and organised.

Sound good?


It would probably take 1/2 hour to get to the one you want but yeah.. that's probably the best option
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Not knowing the limits of these boards, would it be possible to have other folders within a 'Puzzle Card' section. That would make it considerably easier to find a card...

Therefore, we have:

Perplex City
|--> General
|--> Quick Ref.
|--> Puzzles
| |--> Red
| | |--> Thread per card
| |--> Orange
| | |--> Thread per card
| |--> Yellow
| | |--> Thread per card
| |--> Green
| | |--> Thread per card
| |--> Blue
| | |--> Thread per card
| |--> Violet
| | |--> Thread per card
| |--> Black
| | |--> Thread per card
| |--> Silver
| | |--> Thread per card
| |--> Special Cards?
|--> Questions/Meta

Is that possible?
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yeah I'm pretty sure it is..
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This is better...
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Don't forget to allow for the map sections puzzle!

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Hmm - Would the map sections require its own section? Could we survive on a single thread if scanned pictures of the cards were linked from the appropriate puzzle card section?

The map section puzzle is going to be much harder to bring together in the forums than the cards. Any innovative ideas, other than just giving it its own section?
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Mima
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As there could easily be as many map sections as there are cards, a single thread could easily become unmanagable. My best suggestion would be that there should be a thread for each card back (named by card number) with a link, they would then be easy to find - a lot of them have also info on them that gets discussed (remember we currently only have four actual card backs, everything else has come from the tour guide). For example the Anthro Replication building.

If there were 240 map pieces in one thread, there is no easy way that you could find them when they were being refered to as well (eg 219 mistakes or combination of 074 & 138).

If you could be sure that the back would also be included in the main puzzle thread, they could be put here, but there is a risk that someone would only post the front!!

Then a separate thread for the combinations. If there are almost as many map pieces as cards this may get unmanagable, but I can't see how else we would do this bit. North/South of the river wouldn't work as you may well get combos and not know where they fit.

Hope this helps.

Mima

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Mima wrote:
As there could easily be as many map sections as there are cards, a single thread could easily become unmanagable.


Agreed!

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My best suggestion would be that there should be a thread for each card back (named by card number) with a link, they would then be easy to find - a lot of them have also info on them that gets discussed (remember we currently only have four actual card backs, everything else has come from the tour guide). For example the Anthro Replication building.

If there were 240 map pieces in one thread, there is no easy way that you could find them when they were being refered to as well (eg 219 mistakes or combination of 074 & 138).

If you could be sure that the back would also be included in the main puzzle thread, they could be put here, but there is a risk that someone would only post the front!!


I think I agree with a separate thread per card back. It could go in the puzzle card/colour/ topic - if you say there are 32 cards per colour, that would be 64 threads per coloure section, which should be just about manageable! Saying that, it looks like the boards only have room for 48 threads per page, so it would be it was on two pages unless we can change this limit just for these sections?

However, if this were mod controlled, we should insist on a format for posting a card which has both front and back in the first post.

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Then a separate thread for the combinations. If there are almost as many map pieces as cards this may get unmanagable, but I can't see how else we would do this bit. North/South of the river wouldn't work as you may well get combos and not know where they fit.


I think we will have to take this as it comes. We may be able to split it into sections, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Hope some of that made sense!

While I'm here, are any of these actually going to get implimented? I haven't seen many mods posting so...

Also, if you agree/disagree with the above ideas, please put this in writing so we can be sure we get what the community as a whole wants!

Remember this is going to make a hell of a big difference to your puzzle solving experience if we can pull this off. Smile
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remember that as well as colours and numbers -- there are different patterns - pixels hexagons squares and maze for example -- and different quadrants - top left, tr, bl, and br

these have got to be important
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