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Obes
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Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 329 Location: England
[SOLVED][puzzle] AND.. Wonderland Spookiness Scarily enough, Alice in Wonderland is like my favourite book ever... specifically the Mad Hatter, but we've not seen him yet.
(That explains some of my tea obsession then...)
Anyway, I have the original version here, (not that horrid Disney one). I know people may already have it, but... meh.
1 5 6 6 0 2 4 8 2 3 6 7 2 8 7 2 9 2
6 5 4 7 6 5 8 7 7 6 8 6 9 8 7 5
Is interesting. Ignoring the bits where the numbers don't have a pair (above and below) then getting the difference between the two numbers...
0 1 4 5 2 3 6 4 1 1 6 2 2 6 2 3
Ok, that's not too helpful. So I'll try instead making it into binary, with evens being 0 and odds 1
11000 00001 01001 010
010 10101 10001 011
Nope, still not helpful. (You don't actually think I'm going anywhere do you? I'm just showing you what I've done already.) Ok... last chance.
The 'everyman' published version of Alice is (both stories) 238 pages long. Ohhhh.. nevermind. That'll never work, unless I have the same copy as the ghosts
Anyway, have those numbers already been solved?
And, don't those lines at the bottom look like a game of hangman?
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 7:20 am
Obes
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Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 329 Location: England
This didn't hit me before, but now it does.
"Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Agreed to have a battle;
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
As black as a tar-barrel;
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel."
Eric mentioned 'the Tall man'. Perhaps he is the 'black crow'. Crows are also a symbol of death, a bad omen. I think Tweedledum and Tweedledee were only fighting, it was the tall man that killed one of them (or both!) in the loft.
Going off of what was said in chat, Richard is hiding in the loft (or something I forget exactly because I don't have the transcript in front of me. But I think the rest of my post is accurate).
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 7:40 am
Paradoxic
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Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 160
The Tall Man, from what I can find online, is not an uncommon phrase. It is the name of the creepy evil grave robber in the Phantasm horror movie series (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079714/ ). It is also a name that is given to honest and forthright people... so we have some rather differenting definitions of the term.
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:55 am
Caterpillar
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 1887 Location: cem's otherbody
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I saw a funny shadow on the wall today. Is that the Tall Man Richard talks about? He says the Tall Man talks to him. He says it's the Tall Man who makes my things disappear. I'm jealous. Dad wants to send Richard away to school. I will miss him.
Puzzle (new thread?)
h j w k a h p m a l o t d b w l k e a o r h j e a l l n h i e r k a s e I u
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:05 am
Flidget Jerome
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Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 308
There's also a rather dodgy story that's supposed to be a Scottish legend, starring the Tall Man.
The phrase sounds celtic to me, but maybe I'm just thinking of the Long Man.
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:07 am
Caterpillar
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The new text looks almost readable, especially given the alarm clock and the plain text message. I see possibs for "jealous", "awake", "alot", "I". Maybe just needs to be arranged in it's proper order.
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:12 am
Flidget Jerome
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I've been trying to wrap the text around the clock and see what letters line up at the 10 and 4 positions. Got a few anagrams for obscure Greek goddesses and islands, but nothing that's actually yielding any solves.
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:35 am
Paulzilla
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Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 229 Location: Canterbury, UK
Does it look to anyone else like the cyphertext corresponds somehow to the plaintext above it? At about the right place in the sentance we have "jeal" and in normal text - "Jealous" and later the capital I, prehaps cooresponding to the "I will miss him"?
Wrong tree + barking? Perhaps - the rest doesn't fit that well, but still, any port in a storm
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:50 am
Paradoxic
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Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 160
I swear, its always when I'm typing up something that the answer is posted. Heh, good solve. Out of curiosity, how did you choose those numbers and get the answer from it?
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:53 am
Caterpillar
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 1887 Location: cem's otherbody
Paradoxic wrote:
I swear, its always when I'm typing up something that the answer is posted. Heh, good solve. Out of curiosity, how did you choose those numbers and get the answer from it?
I added the two strings and it looked like the 3 digit numbers "made sense" so I looked up them up HERE (Octal)
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:07 pm
Tiny
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That definetly fits in the letters, especially because the I is the only capitalized letter. I don't have any way to solve large anagrams ont he computer where I'm at, but I'm betting that it will come out to something, with a few left over letters to solve to the next page.
Tj-
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I spread my dreams at your feet.
Tread Softly, For you tread on my dreams.
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:23 pm
Obes
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Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 329 Location: England
I tried taking out all the letters that repeat (leaving the i and I in) and got an anagram of
I bind stump
But.. dead end. Back to pondering.
Obes.
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:38 pm
Paulzilla
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Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 229 Location: Canterbury, UK
I've got
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I SAW HE KILLED MOTHER ANOTHER PAUL WALK BAH JKJ
I think this is nothing though - I mean, I hope it is... Hmmm, the word "Shadow" is in there also...
_________________"Leg or no leg, I trust you about as far as I could throw Manhattan." ~~Guybrush Threepwood~~
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:57 pm
Ursos
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Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 276 Location: Columbus, OH
If that string of letters is an anagram, it'll be tough unless we have a clue pointing to what it should say. And if it's a Vignere cipher, it'll be tough without a key... I've tried the Vignere with a number of different keys (Richard, Eric, Tall Man, I'm jealous, evil, shadow, I will miss him, etc). Nothing so far... And doing a rot on it didn't result in anything either.
*ponder*
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 1:46 pm
Max Steele
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Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 456
Caterpillar wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Text on page:
I saw a funny shadow on the wall today. Is that the Tall Man Richard talks about? He says the Tall Man talks to him. He says it's the Tall Man who makes my things disappear. I'm jealous. Dad wants to send Richard away to school. I will miss him.
Puzzle (new thread?)
h j w k a h p m a l o t d b w l k e a o r h j e a l l n h i e r k a s e I u
I'm sorry caterpillar, but I don't understand your solve for the queen alice page.
You say to add up the numbers, and you list a string of numbers:
163150141144157167
but on the queen alice page, the number string is:
1566024823672872926547658776869875
So how did you get one string of numbers from the other string?
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 2:09 pm
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