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tanner
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its the entropy argument that is the most persuasive for the arrow of time -- heat dissipates
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 5:21 pm
yanka|tage
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tanner wrote:
its the entropy argument that is the most persuasive for the arrow of time -- heat dissipates
Hawking makes some pretty freaky twists to the entropy logic in the no boudary proposal (which I'm still largely blown away by).
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 5:54 pm
Rolerbe
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yanka|tage wrote:
tanner wrote:
its the entropy argument that is the most persuasive for the arrow of time -- heat dissipates
Hawking makes some pretty freaky twists to the entropy logic in the no boudary proposal (which I'm still largely blown away by).
Not like we haven't strayed way off topic, but I agree -- Hawking' latest musings get pretty strange. But then the arguments get hard to follow without the math. English is just a crappy way to talk about physics.
(But that's what makes it )
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 6:45 pm
Leeravitz
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I'm starting to hope that MC are not employing people who think quite so bizarrely as we do, otherwise we may never get this thing solved...
Truthfully though, I feel the cognitive dissonance having spent a few minutes contemplating the possibility that we are *truly* involved in a quantum entanglement link - up via wormhole with a functioning cybersphere...
And then viewing the E3 Expo pictures, and realising that the reality is something nearer to bits of sticky - back plastic and cardboard boxes...
[Maybe that's it - the cube is cleverly disguised as a cardboard box...cunning...you'd never imagine it was worth much... ]
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:23 pm
kazart
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Is 'THE CUBE' software? It is obvious that some kind of matter can be transferred, whether on purpose or by accident, as The Cube came across (presumably intact.) It is unclear as to whether this was a fluke, a repeatable occurrence, or how many people know how to do it (i.e. the Academy won't admit to it or a scientician that did it has not published or talked about the process.) Or maybe The Cube is just magic.
matter can be transferred easily, via software...cant it? I have stumbled across some sort of software with 6 source code packages and one application data package ......something relevant to a virtual computer and multimedia.......might be totallt unrelated.....
but maybe 'the cube' is software?
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:41 pm
JebJoya
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Right, just one thing that I've thought of, MC said that the cube has been buried by someone on earth. Assuming for the moment that people cannot move from PxC to Earth, this means that they have an accomplaice on earth, agreed?
However, the Academy is the only place that has contact with us, via the internet, implying that it was an inside job, presumably. Also, this would make sense, as we have the most information about people from the academy, so we have the most information to go from.
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 3:26 am
Seej
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Mikeyj wrote:
Not sure whether it was parallel realities. Thought it was just that as each particle can be both 1 and 0 simultaneously so all possible inputs and outputs can be calculated simultaneosly
Perhaps that was it - like I said, too busy to google....
Mikeyj wrote:
therefore making things a bit quicker than my little laptop (which is currently being throttled to death by Norton Antivirus....grrrr).
Norton just soaks up all your spare speed and then some. I got so sick of it after a couple of weeks I uninstalled and took it back to complain that it wasn't fit for purpose. Total number of virus infections before Norton = 0. Total number since Norton = 0 (I run an AVG scan once in a while). How? I just don't click on every stupid attachment I get sent and don't download from dodgy sites. I'm sure you're already doing this, so relax and disable it.
Oh, and as fascinating as the physics discussion is (for once I'm not being sarcastic - it's one of my pet interests) can we please try to not get too far off topic or else we might end up with another thread like this
EDIT: OK, so the discussion has been moved to it's own thread. Please disregard what I just said
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:00 am
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One possablility for transfer of information between pcx and earth would be tachyon particals. Which is really a class of theritical particals. There are three partical classes Tardyon which have mass and travel less then the speed of light, Light which has no mass and of course travels at the speed of light, and Tachyons which have an imaginary mass ( as in imanginary numbers ie SQRT(-1) * X were X is an element of Z+) and travel faster then the speed of light.
So what could be happening is that pcx found a way to use tachyons to scan/see in to alternate realities, they have been studing us for years this way... then after the cube was sent to earth, they found a way to use tachyons to communicate with Adrian Hon and the Mind Candy team who have know built a similar device and can talk with the acadamy. Furthermore all of the internet interaction we have seen could be being hanndled by Mind Candy they connvert PCX information to webpages and post it and convert our emails to tachyon communication and send it to PCX.
This could also explain why the cube has an indeterminate mass it too has a imaginary mass which can't be calcluated but which allowed it to be transported to earth.
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 12:00 pm
JebJoya
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why does the imaginary number have to be of the form xi | x in Z+, surely (assuming we're wanting a "positive" mass) simply xi | x in R+ will suffice?
Meh, i dunno
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 12:13 pm
Muffin
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Lets just hope than the final puzzle isn't actually to solve the problem of matter transference between two worlds of indeterminate separation!
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 12:19 pm
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JebJoya wrote:
why does the imaginary number have to be of the form xi | x in Z+, surely (assuming we're wanting a "positive" mass) simply xi | x in R+ will suffice?
Meh, i dunno
Jeb
yeah my mistake... good catch it should be R+ not Z+ ... kind of funny that started as an explination of what i ment by imaginary and end up complex enough that ony the math/cs/ee majors would understand it... Thanks Jeb.
Ps. the + is because i don't think masses can be negitive but that to maybe wrong after all an imaginary mass is just as incomprehensable so if negiative masses are allowed i guess it would just be the set of R...
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 12:39 pm
Leeravitz
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It's why it's called the Receda Cube that keeps bothering me...The name could mean nothing, although, at the very least, it's the abbreviation for Real - Coded Estimation of Distribution Algorithms...
And doesn't the word mean something in Italian??
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:01 pm
joolsweb
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Reseda (diff spelling) means
Any of various Mediterranean plants of the genus Reseda, including the mignonette, having densely flowered terminal racemes and divided petals.
A grayish or dark green to yellow green or light olive.
Not sure if that helps but maybe the cube is green in colour!!
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:26 pm
cassandra
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Please see this thread for an extended discussion of "Receda".
If you search the Syzygy forum, there are mentions in a few other threads as well.
[EDIT: embedded url. yanka.]
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:38 pm
RI_Barnica
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[QUESTION]How does the Academy Study Earth? Tried to search for this, and trout me if its been discussed (no idea what search terms to use), but have we ever actually determined how the Perplexians study earth? Is there anything that says the cube helps them to do so? On the contrary, since the cube is missing and they can still study us, it must not be the cube that does the trick, eh? So, how do they do it?
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:39 pm
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