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#098 - Magic Square

**Posted:** Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:39 pm

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zepheria · Boot Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 27 Location: Las Vegas, NV

I was rejected with this square (three times, because I'm too persistent)

**Posted:** Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:56 pm

jojojojo

There are two possible answers. MC have been emailed.

**Posted:** Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:00 pm

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Fuseunderground · Decorated Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 151

Same here, (twice only)

I was rejected with

**Posted:** Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:02 pm

pharzo · Boot Joined: 27 Nov 2005 Posts: 13

here 'tis

**Posted:** Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:09 pm

Mathematician

First time post, please be nice. By my calculations there are 54 unique solutions to this problem. The PC site only seems to accept the one above from pharzo, I got it wrong with two different attempts before checking here. I can't believe that MC aren't aware of the fact that there is more than one unique solution to a 4x4 magic square if you are only given two of the numbers within it. This makes me think that I must have missed something on the card that can be used to identify the solution they want from the 54 that appear to fit the bill.

The excel file contains all 54 solutions in case anyone is interested, it also has the one I got accepted highlighted in a different colour.

**Posted:** Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:56 pm

maevey · Veteran Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 106

Try searching for 4x4 magic squares from history. There is one particular square.

**Posted:** Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:08 pm

pharzo · Boot Joined: 27 Nov 2005 Posts: 13

i think that they have been e-mailed about this already

but this is just another case of them wanting the historically popular answer, rather than any correct answer

They were probably betting on the fact that most people would just google it (like me) and find the solution i did

**Posted:** Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:09 pm

zepheria · Boot Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 27 Location: Las Vegas, NV

Oh, the engraving! Subtle. Thanks, maevey.

**Posted:** Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:18 pm

EvilGenius

errrg!

**Posted:** Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:10 am

Small Geezer · Boot Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 64

What is the diagram all about?

a) Where is it?
b) Is it supposed to be some kind of machine
c) What does Zakastrange (???) mean?

Enough questions!

**Posted:** Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:33 am

Guin

I can tell you that a Zahnstange (top right) is a gear rack. Could be some sort of cable car link? Its also linked to train type things.

[EDIT] but also in sluce (or however you spell it) gates

http://www.uniphon.se/luckspel/sz1214.pdf [/EDIT]

http://www.standseilbahn.de/wiesbaden/index1d.html

The image of the lake looks like somewhere I recognise but as I have been araound a bit it could be anywhere but I am thinking the lake is in Germany - there is a distinctive building in the middle background on the shoreline.

I will try and find more for you all

**Posted:** Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:50 am

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other errata: notice the wave title, Wave 3 Season 1. cool. Everything up till now has been wave 0.5

**Posted:** Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:49 am

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Juxta · Unfettered Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 675

Not so much errata per se...

Taken directly from the PxC FAQ pages:

**Posted:** Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:40 am

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vealster · Greenhorn Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 3

I'm just wodnering if this means that they'll release waves 3 and 4 in seperate boxes or if they'll release release wave 3 then combined wave 3/4 together

to me the combined wave thing they did with 1 and 2 was always a bad idea Sad

it meant that long time players who had most or all of the 1st wave from the pre-release would risk getting a lot of cards they don't need, and to me it didn't help newbies as the wave 1's were too scarce to bulid a reasonable set of wave 1 without spending a lot of money or buying the pre-release cards.

I noticed this on the website too:

**Posted:** Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:25 am