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wintermute_au
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Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Posts: 82 Location: Sydney, AUS *(curr. Reims, FRANCE)
order doesnt actually mean anything though, its the endings that give us that meaning (ie, subject/object etc)
anyone speak latin??
(will shoot off an email to my old latin teacher and see what he thinks )
Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:44 pm
JMilton
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Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 56 Location: Variable
Darkstar wrote:
ET NOMINA ANGELORUM OMNIUM CAELESTIUM CADUCORUM QUE INTER VOS AMBULANTIUM.
'And the name of the highest angel in Heaven, 'Caducorum', who moves among you.'
Well, caducorum has been handled, but I would like to know where you get highest angel out of that...omnium is 'all', so wouldn't it be 'and the names (of) all the angels in Heaven...'?[/i]
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 9:30 am
Darkstar
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Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 256
JMilton wrote:
Darkstar wrote:
ET NOMINA ANGELORUM OMNIUM CAELESTIUM CADUCORUM QUE INTER VOS AMBULANTIUM.
'And the name of the highest angel in Heaven, 'Caducorum', who moves among you.'
Well, caducorum has been handled, but I would like to know where you get highest angel out of that...omnium is 'all', so wouldn't it be 'and the names (of) all the angels in Heaven...'?[/i]
You're probably right, heh, I can't remember any of it now.
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 12:25 pm
gouldeneye
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 11 Location: Jedi Temple
i took a look at the symbol in the return address to see what i could do, since everyone else is on the latin and i def. couldnt help out there. the symbol looks like a crescent moon, cross, and star of david; or the symbols of islam, christianity and judaism. there isnt any country's flag with that symbol, but the only place i know of where all 3 religions come together is the Dome of the Rock in Israel. all 3 faiths consider it sacred, maybe whoever sent all these out is there. just a theory though...
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:48 pm
Darkstar
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Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 256
gouldeneye wrote:
i took a look at the symbol in the return address to see what i could do, since everyone else is on the latin and i def. couldnt help out there. the symbol looks like a crescent moon, cross, and star of david; or the symbols of islam, christianity and judaism. there isnt any country's flag with that symbol, but the only place i know of where all 3 religions come together is the Dome of the Rock in Israel. all 3 faiths consider it sacred, maybe whoever sent all these out is there. just a theory though...
You could be onto something there...
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:11 pm
bill
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 614 Location: Tampa
Sorry I've been so slack. Here is the scan of the bible page I received.
The envelope had the crescent/cross/hebrew star in place of a return address and written on the back was hunlsz huk khltvuz .
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 5:40 pm
Brain\Storm
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Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 74 Location: Hazlehurst, Georgia USA
My Bible page was from Isaiah.
Page #591
Isaiah 38. "Message To Hezekiah"
Same "from address".
the rest can be found at http://brainstorm.serveftp.com/angels/
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:29 pm
wintermute_au
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Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Posts: 82 Location: Sydney, AUS *(curr. Reims, FRANCE)
hey, digging this one up cos I got a reply with a good Latin translation... I don't think there's any unsolved puzzle in it, but interesting nonetheless
Quote:
...it means something like "The shibboleth word
of the key (or club) bearers". It could mean "The word of the club(key)
bearers is shibboleth".
The other phrase means "In the name of all the fallen celestial angels (or
of the angels fallen from heaven) who walk amongst you" although the
"ambulantium" is incorrect and so is the "que". "que" doesn't exist in
Latin. It could be "qui". The second part of the phrase should be "qui inter
vos ambulant".
i still think the shibboleth is still just a hint to needing a password
the fall angels who walk amongst us is an interesting one tho, it suggests there's a whole other faction involved...
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:03 pm
misery_of_pain
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Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 407 Location: The beach, UK
just want to refer you here
Hope this helps complete the phrase
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:27 am
jshall
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Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 193
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Iite, I Got Mail Today, Big Orange Envolope, From The US. It Has 2 US Stamps On It. In The Top Left Corner It Has A Cross With A Tiny Star And A Swoop To The Left. It Has My Name, Address And Stuff Written Sloppy. I Opened The Envolope And Inside Was A Page Of The Bible, Says Page 379 I CHRONICLES 20, 21. Theres Red Words On It Too, They Say FOSSAM SAEMONIS TE INVENIRE NECESSE EST. Its Covered In Blood, Not Sure If Its Fake. theres Blood In THe Envolope Too. Also Inside Is A Bird Feather That Has Blood On It.
Im Not Sure This Is From AW2RE.. Im Not Sure If Its From Unholy Trinity.. Im Not Sure What It Is...
Thanks Misery I would have never seen that since I barly visti the other grass roots forums.
So we have 5 letters accounted for now?
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:26 am
Angelhelper
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JMilton wrote:
Darkstar wrote:
ET NOMINA ANGELORUM OMNIUM CAELESTIUM CADUCORUM QUE INTER VOS AMBULANTIUM.
'And the name of the highest angel in Heaven, 'Caducorum', who moves among you.'
Well, caducorum has been handled, but I would like to know where you get highest angel out of that...omnium is 'all', so wouldn't it be 'and the names (of) all the angels in Heaven...'?[/i]
I think the answer to the translation is within the site itself. Check out the "Realm" on the passowrd protection of the following:
http://www.sefer-raziel.com/angels ... it says "All the names of the Angels..." Which would explain the first part of the message.
http://www.sefer-raziel.com/daemons ... it says "The Daemons that walk among you..." Daemons were Angels that have fallen, thus in my reasoning, CADUCORUM means "Daemons"
The first package refers to the password, maybe the latest find will refer to a username.
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:17 pm
wintermute_au
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Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Posts: 82 Location: Sydney, AUS *(curr. Reims, FRANCE)
ok, those "realm" titles are the same sentences as in the Flash file, so it's not telling us much
and yes, Caducorum effectively means Daemons as its "the fallen"
I've sent an email, hoping to get a translation to the extra text soon...
so far from: FOSSAM SAEMONIS TE INVENIRE NECESSE EST
Fossam has something to do with a ditch or an Abyss
Invenire: _venir_ is "to come", In- is an opposite (in english/french), so I'm confused (possibly return? or could be like come in)
not sure bout Saemonis, but I'm guessing that 'summon' is related
Necesse as in necessity
but i can't make any sense out of the sentence
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:26 pm
Merrill
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Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Boston, MA
wintermute_au wrote:
so far from: FOSSAM SAEMONIS TE INVENIRE NECESSE EST
Fossam has something to do with a ditch or an Abyss
Invenire: _venir_ is "to come", In- is an opposite (in english/french), so I'm confused (possibly return? or could be like come in)
not sure bout Saemonis, but I'm guessing that 'summon' is related
Necesse as in necessity
but i can't make any sense out of the sentence
Invenire means "to find." Necesse is "necessary" (or unavoidable/inevitable) I have no clue what saemonis is. My best guess so far is "It is necessary for you to find the *something* trench/abyss."
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:56 pm
TimHortons
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Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 34
I've Just Recieved One Myself!.
Mine Says
FOSSAM SAEMNIS TE INVENIRE NECESSE EST
Can Anyone Translate This?
The Rest Of The Package Has The Same Stuff As Yours
On The Opening Of The Envolope It Says Hunlse huk khltvue..
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:46 pm
dam770
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Just to save anyone else the time, the text on the outside of the envelops is ROT-19 for "angels and daemons"
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:13 pm
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