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dr_ronnieboy[PCGF]
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 		[Spec] BC/AC new information
It was thought on this board, and i also was under the impression, that BC and AC stood for "Before Cube" and "After Cube" repectively. However, after reading through the www.perplexcityacademy.com site i came across this:

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The Receda Cube is the jewel in the crown of the Museum's collection. It was discovered in the Catbite area in around 7AC


So therefore AC cannot mean "After Cube" because it was found after the AC year measurement started. And even if they started using the measurement retrospectively, surely if it was "After Cube" then the Raceda cube would be found in 0AC?

The only way that AC can be "After Cube" is if AC refers to a different cube then the Raceda cube, but this seems odd.

Looks lke we're back to sq.1 with the dates...
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 		Perhaps the 'C' refers to the cross-over point between Catbite and whatever was previous to that? I'm not too hot on latin or such but is there a word beginning that means after? 'Ando' or such?
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 		It seems to me like a reference to the fact that our numbering system is about seven years out. I seem to remember that the best estimates say that Christ was actually born in 7BC, and the monk who worked out the first calendar got it wrong.

That being said, it is very unlikely that they made the same mistake, they must have been reasonably advanced then and able to write things down. Very curious.

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 		Also, we'd had almost 1500 years to confuse ourselves before BC and AD came into effect. They've only had a couple of hundred.
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PuzzledPineapple wrote:
It seems to me like a reference to the fact that our numbering system is about seven years out. I seem to remember that the best estimates say that Christ was actually born in 7BC, and the monk who worked out the first calendar got it wrong.

That being said, it is very unlikely that they made the same mistake, they must have been reasonably advanced then and able to write things down. Very curious.


The difference is that Jesus was born in 0AD - the extra years are calendar screw-ups, but it's still taken that 2005 is 2005 years since he was born. For AC it's actually taken that the cube was found 7 years after the new calendar started. This, combined with the facts that the Perplexians seem to be very accurate about dates and numbers, as well as the fact that it's only been 300-odd years since AC started makes me very cynical to the idea that it was a calendar mistake.

EDIT: Brat-Sampson got there before me on my main point.
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Kastanok wrote:
Perhaps the 'C' refers to the cross-over point between Catbite and whatever was previous to that? I'm not too hot on latin or such but is there a word beginning that means after? 'Ando' or such?


Anno Domini means 'in the year of our lord'

edit: think it might be the, rather than our, but it's not important.. heh

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 		Thanks for correcting me, Zogger Smile
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 		The cube could have arrived in their world seven years before it was found.

I know - clutching and straws comes to mind...
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 		The bc and ac could be in their ancient language like our bc and ad (short for a big non english word)
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 		This doesn't really answer the relationship of the dating to the cube, but there's a lot of informaiton about BC and AC on thehistory page of the Academy's Museum page, including

Academy wrote:
As every schoolchild knows, the history of our city falls into two distinct phases, BC and AC. The Academy museum is concerned broadly with the BC period of history, and does not touch a great deal on matters beyond 0BC. For a comprehensive study of the more recent history of the city, we recommend a visit to the Regeneration galleries of the Maitland Museum on Holl Lane.


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The period from 700 to 0BC is now thought of as the beginning of the "modern" era, with rapid development in science and technology following a more industrial age. This period was, of course, also one of increasing conflict, but along with this went a growing sense of the city as a united entity. The Academy was founded at this time, as were many of the other institutions that give the city its unique identity.


[spec]Maybe the C means "City" as in Before and After the offical founding of the the City, or maybe "charter" or something to the same effect.[/spec]
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 		Maybe it took seven years for the significance of the Cube to really assimilate and for the desicion to change the calender was made? After all, I doubt we'd just start from scratch at the drop of the hat - 'someone's discovered an artifact, let's all go back to zero!' It would be massively inconvenient for a start. Remember the fuss (real or imagined) that we made over the Millenium Bug and all that? This would have the same kind of effect...
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 		I'm tempted to say it relates to 'Conflict'

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This period was, of course, also one of increasing conflict


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The period from 60BC onward brought with it renewed conflict


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7AC, a period of some turmoil


didn't they say that the Cube is also said to convey a sense of peace and harmony?

Anyway, just my two-penneth worth!

[EDIT: fixed quote tags. yanka.]
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 		Could it be even more prosaically political than any of this: Before and After [the founding of a representative] City Council??

Sounds dull, I agree, but, if you think about it, the Roman calendar was dated in terms of when the Republic was held to have been established, and maybe, there was some changeover in terms of governance...?

Admittedly, I'd have guessed that we might have had some reference to previous governing systems if this were the case - kings, emperors, what have you, and we don't seem to.

It makes me wonder what was on the Perplex City site exactly before it became a fully fledged metropolis...(but that's starting to become more idle speculation...)

Maybe a change of government went in tandem with a major conflict - stranger things have happened...
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 		Re: [Spec] BC/AC new information
dr_ronnieboy[PCGF] wrote:
It was thought on this board, and i also was under the impression, that BC and AC stood for "Before Cube" and "After Cube" repectively. However, after reading through the www.perplexcityacademy.com site i came across this:

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The Receda Cube is the jewel in the crown of the Museum's collection. It was discovered in the Catbite area in around 7AC


So therefore AC cannot mean "After Cube" because it was found after the AC year measurement started. And even if they started using the measurement retrospectively, surely if it was "After Cube" then the Raceda cube would be found in 0AC?

The only way that AC can be "After Cube" is if AC refers to a different cube then the Raceda cube, but this seems odd.

Looks lke we're back to sq.1 with the dates...


Definitely not new information, this has been noticed independantly several times...look down the forum for the locked thread by Ash87 called "What year is it?".
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