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konamouse
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New from initiatesseekers 4/30 @ 5p initiatesseekersSPLAT mythosphere.org
Subject: Benign Shakespeare
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:04 pm
Myssfitz
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Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 695 Location: In the pasture
I got the same one. No ideas here.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:37 pm
jwbarton73
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Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Posts: 1 Location: Atlanta
The subject is interesting "Benign Shakespeare" . . . could this have something to do with a sonnet?
Sonnet - a fixed verse form of Italian origin consisting of fourteen lines that are typically five-foot iambics rhyming according to a prescribed scheme.
There are 14 groups of numbers and there are 5 numbers in each grouping.
Just a thought.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:43 pm
reesylou
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Benign Shakespeare Don't know if it is relevant.... but googling for "Benign Shakespeare" as a phrase leads to "Much Ado About Nothing".
I think the sonnet idea is better... but it is still an interesting fact
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:48 pm
konamouse
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The only work of Shakespeare with "benign" in it comes from the Prologue of Act II in Pericles.
On the other hand, googling benign shakespeare leads to a lot of commentaries about the playwrite, or his works, done by critiques using the word "benign" as a descriptor.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:07 pm
CEMGATE
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Just FYI....I've tried different methods with Area codes, Zip Codes, and ISBNs.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:24 pm
Myssfitz
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What about using the Caesar cipher with benign as the key? Shakespeare wrote Julius Caesar.
Caesar Cipher is probably the simplest way of enciphering a message. As you may presume considering its name, it was already used by Gaius Julius Caesar, the Roman emperor. Caesar cipher is a monoalphabetic substitution. The assignment to the characters is not arbitrary, it is based on a cyclic rotation of k places in the alphabet. This number (k) is the key the message is enciphered with. Each character of the uncoded text is replaced by the character that stands k positions later in the alphabet:
bi = ai + k mod 26 (for i from 1 bis 26)
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:25 pm
Myssfitz
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Not prime numbers I saw something about using Prime Numbers as a code. The above numbers are not prime.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:01 pm
dmax
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Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1387 Location: Location: Location!
Re: Benign Shakespeare
reesylou wrote:
Don't know if it is relevant.... but googling for "Benign Shakespeare" as a phrase leads to "Much Ado About Nothing".
I think the sonnet idea is better... but it is still an interesting fact
I'm liking b-9 and then sonnet formation as our hints from the title
sonnets with 10 syllables, and these are 5 digits... dont know yet
but the 14 segments go along with the shakespeare/sonnet concept
is it shakes? not necessarily
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:20 pm
konamouse
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Asked the guides for help.
Their response:
initiatesseekersSPLAT mythosphere.org
Subject: Your Message
A visIOn oF the Whole IS possiblE Only IF iT is ASsUmed that humAN
HistORY hAs meaning.
the guides
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:14 pm
imbri
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Joined: 21 Sep 2002 Posts: 1182 Location: wonderland
Re: New from initiatesseekers 4/30 @ 5p so, the 9s and the capitals match up. interesting.
Code:
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A visIOn oF the Whole IS possiblE Only IF iT is ASsUmed that humAN
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HistORY hAs meaning.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:23 pm
reesylou
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Hmmm With that mixed case, it reminds my of a Bacon cipher.... and I seem to remember some theory that Francis Bacon wrote (at least some of) Shakespeare's works.
OTOH.. the 9s look like word boundaries, but I don't know why you would start with a space or have doubles
Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 12:06 am
LazarusLong
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Using the Bacon cypher (http://web.mit.edu/puzzle/www/00/set5/5/Solution.html )
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baaab baaba aabaa aabba aaaaa
S T E G A
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abbaa abbab aabba baaaa aaaaa
N O G R A
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abbba aabbb abaaa aaaaa
P H I A
STEGANOGRAPHIA
Now, where do we go from here?
Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 12:25 am
Varin
I Have No Life
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 2456 Location: South of where I used to be
SOLVED From EoZ at CD:
Code breaking by Lazarus Long (with a small assist from EoZ)
Site found by me
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The first numeric code was a Bacon cipher. A second clue was sent when Kona asked
for help. The second clue was a phrase that had caps at the spots where 9s appeared
in the original message, and small letters for everything else. In a Bacon cipher,
each letter of the alphabet is represented by a five letter string - some combo of
a's and b's
A for ex,. is aaaaa
B aaaab
and so on
The 9s represent the Bs, the other numbers the As
The original message is STEGANOGRAPHIA
This leads to a new site at mythosphere.org/trithemius.html
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 12:43 am
Varin
I Have No Life
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 2456 Location: South of where I used to be
poem from new site The one who seeks may lose his way
Along darkened paths at end of day
To light the way of his return
The wood of nine the guides must burn
Oak and ash and willow tree
Birch, fir, apple, the second three
Hawthorn, hazel, and wood of vine
In order complete the sacred nine
From where love was lost his path begins
In darkness seek the aid of friends
At tomorrow's dusk, the fire burn
Where love once lived, and he shall return
_________________"I still miss him to this day and probably always will." - Todd Keeler, Chasing the Wish
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 12:44 am
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