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konamouse
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New from initiatesseekers 4/30 @ 5p

initiatesseekersSPLATmythosphere.org
Subject: Benign Shakespeare


93269 94792 58911 76997 54322

29936 49959 44996 98181 36372

59991 68999 89723 46521

a guide
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I got the same one. No ideas here. Sad
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The subject is interesting "Benign Shakespeare" . . . could this have something to do with a sonnet?

Sonnet - a fixed verse form of Italian origin consisting of fourteen lines that are typically five-foot iambics rhyming according to a prescribed scheme.

There are 14 groups of numbers and there are 5 numbers in each grouping.

Just a thought.

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Benign Shakespeare

Don't know if it is relevant.... but googling for "Benign Shakespeare" as a phrase leads to "Much Ado About Nothing".


I think the sonnet idea is better... but it is still an interesting fact

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The only work of Shakespeare with "benign" in it comes from the Prologue of Act II in Pericles.

On the other hand, googling benign shakespeare leads to a lot of commentaries about the playwrite, or his works, done by critiques using the word "benign" as a descriptor.
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Just FYI....I've tried different methods with Area codes, Zip Codes, and ISBNs.

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What about using the Caesar cipher with benign as the key? Shakespeare wrote Julius Caesar.

Caesar Cipher is probably the simplest way of enciphering a message. As you may presume considering its name, it was already used by Gaius Julius Caesar, the Roman emperor. Caesar cipher is a monoalphabetic substitution. The assignment to the characters is not arbitrary, it is based on a cyclic rotation of k places in the alphabet. This number (k) is the key the message is enciphered with. Each character of the uncoded text is replaced by the character that stands k positions later in the alphabet:
bi = ai + k mod 26 (for i from 1 bis 26)
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Not prime numbers

I saw something about using Prime Numbers as a code. The above numbers are not prime.
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Re: Benign Shakespeare

reesylou wrote:
Don't know if it is relevant.... but googling for "Benign Shakespeare" as a phrase leads to "Much Ado About Nothing".


I think the sonnet idea is better... but it is still an interesting fact


I'm liking b-9 and then sonnet formation as our hints from the title
sonnets with 10 syllables, and these are 5 digits... dont know yet

but the 14 segments go along with the shakespeare/sonnet concept

is it shakes? not necessarily
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Asked the guides for help.
Their response:

initiatesseekersSPLATmythosphere.org
Subject: Your Message

A visIOn oF the Whole IS possiblE Only IF iT is ASsUmed that humAN
HistORY hAs meaning.

the guides
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Re: New from initiatesseekers 4/30 @ 5p

so, the 9s and the capitals match up. interesting.

Code:

9 326994 79 258 91176 99 75432229 9364 99 59 44 9969818 1363 72599
A visIOn oF the Whole IS possiblE Only IF iT is ASsUmed that humAN

9168999 897 2346521
HistORY hAs meaning.




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Hmmm

With that mixed case, it reminds my of a Bacon cipher.... and I seem to remember some theory that Francis Bacon wrote (at least some of) Shakespeare's works.

OTOH.. the 9s look like word boundaries, but I don't know why you would start with a space or have doubles

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Using the Bacon cypher (http://web.mit.edu/puzzle/www/00/set5/5/Solution.html)

93269 94792 58911 76997 54322
baaab baaba aabaa aabba aaaaa
S T E G A

29936 49959 44996 98181 36372
abbaa abbab aabba baaaa aaaaa
N O G R A

59991 68999 89723 46521
abbba aabbb abaaa aaaaa
P H I A

STEGANOGRAPHIA

Now, where do we go from here?

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SOLVED

From EoZ at CD:

Code breaking by Lazarus Long (with a small assist from EoZ)

Site found by me

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The first numeric code was a Bacon cipher. A second clue was sent when Kona asked
for help. The second clue was a phrase that had caps at the spots where 9s appeared
in the original message, and small letters for everything else. In a Bacon cipher,
each letter of the alphabet is represented by a five letter string - some combo of
a's and b's

A for ex,. is aaaaa
B aaaab
and so on

The 9s represent the Bs, the other numbers the As

The original message is STEGANOGRAPHIA

This leads to a new site at mythosphere.org/trithemius.html

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poem from new site

The one who seeks may lose his way
Along darkened paths at end of day
To light the way of his return
The wood of nine the guides must burn

Oak and ash and willow tree
Birch, fir, apple, the second three
Hawthorn, hazel, and wood of vine
In order complete the sacred nine

From where love was lost his path begins
In darkness seek the aid of friends
At tomorrow's dusk, the fire burn
Where love once lived, and he shall return
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