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[addlepated]

[Incitatus]

Now c'mon I know we're all the type to forgive and forget.
Well... at least the forgiving part anyway..

PA2: Alaranth did nothing wrong. She was a great player, even greater because the game found her, instead of visa-versa. Never was I subject to hearing any of the other PMs say anything less than praise for her interaction at the airport.
The game fell through for one simple and very clear reason. And regardless of what who might say about whomever, Mantis simply could not maintain a tight enough grip on his PMs. Either booting them off or just not keeping everyone up to date, or even on the same page, one by one the PMs left probably because they were too frustrated with the lack of internal communication. I endeavored long and hard (being my first PM-ARG) to make sure i was up to date, and to keep active despite my lack of facilities while I moved. But even with my constant communiqué's I was learning most of the game's happenings through UF itself. Which is kind of sad.
And on the eve of implementing new ideas, searching for new PMs and a wholly new approach to the game (Something I admittingly forced mantis into) Mantis simply IMed me saying "F*** it." And thus I was alone, and after 1 in game IM convo, I quickly decided to shut the game down.
Again, there was absolutely no player failure here. This game died because of internal problems, not at all player related.

Alaranth, for what mantis said I can only apologize on behalf of the rest of us involved in the game who thought you did great.

Mantis: All things considered, I truly think you need to sit down and really examine what went wrong with your last two games. The underlying Ideas were great, but their execution leaves way too much to be considered. I'm not sure about what "limits" you intended to test other than the levels of people's tempers. You had a great success, with PA, but now you have spoiled it with not only a flaming failure, but now something which challenges the intellect of the community and outright insults. I would strongly suggest you sit back, take a year. Focus on Real Life, something at which your at an interval part of by your age. Then when you get back, if you decide ARGs are still the business suited for you, address what went wrong with these. There is no doubt in my mind, that you have the potential to be a great PM, Project Ashcroft has shown that to the world. But you definatly need to re-examine much before you try to commence another.

Everyone Else: Chill. Find your "Chi'" and relax to some enya music
*Strikes up the enya tunes*

[Phaedra]

[Saevitia]

[Phaedra]

[Saevitia]

While the idea of an ARG about ARGing and being a PM is vaguely original and interesting, it's a real shame to see an attempt at it like this.

It seems to me that the "PM"/main character was really looking more for attention and a way to explain his past failures than to provide anyone else with an engaging and entertaining ARG, or even a decent gAIM.

I think instead of trying to make a gAIM out of it, the PM needs to step back and evaluate why his last ARG, and now this one, melted down.

I can't speak as a player of PA2, but as for this little number, it seems like it mostly suffered from lack of content, and lack of respect for it's players.

[L.Boomer]

[Incitatus]

I was reviewing the thread again...

*Turns off the enya*

[Phaedra]

Oh, and:

[Incitatus]

*Pats Phaedra on the back*
It's ok...

And you do have a point. Lets consider it Point made, and let this alone.
The whole mess has turned quite ugly, and I suggest we all leave it be before we get any more worked up.

[ProfMoriarty]

I feel like my post has made a giant mess of things, what with the conversation I had being the one mentioning Alaranth and the PM mistake in PA2.

Sorry

Mantis, even now I can't tell how you've really felt and what was a game. However, that's pretty much pointless without a game to back it up. You've proven there is a power in ARGs... it still has to be used as more than a device to back up your earlier failures.

If this had turned into a story that meshed your experience with PA2 into a gripping plot, I would have been impressed. Instead, you turned everyone on and left. In the end, this game was just a red herring.

But I can tell by this, and the success of the original Project Ashcroft, that you do know how to make a good game. If you make a *real* game that employs your skills, just like Ashcroft did, people will be much happier.

[Tiny]

Point made Pheadra, I see your point, and I agree whole heartedly. I just meant constructive critiscism is better then "You screwed over the grassroots community."

[spaceboy]

Wooo, this thread has definitely strayed into the realms of META......

/me ducks and covers.

[Phaedra]

[PokeKiller]