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UPDATE: thoughtscapes.com/mute
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carlitoxxi
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UPDATE: thoughtscapes.com/mute

If you go now on site, smile pop up appear repeatedly, and then kick you out to homepage.

Most important, if you see the google cache of site, you can see a link to www.thoughtscapes.com/main2.htm
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:a81ClHUh9_AC:www.thoughtscapes.com/main2.htm+thoughtscapes&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
On this page there's a photo (attached) of a person (Ewan?)

If this photo is old for you, please don't trout me, i haven't follow this game accurately. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 9:40 am
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Perko
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Not trout, this is new! Good job!

Is this then what we were meant to find with that "Google re-caches" remark? I don't see any obvious msg from Vulcan Vulture. I was looking for something like "Ra's Guidepost Malt Shop", a page that is currently a vanity project, but in Google it's still a Malt Shop. Maybe with a message board that had a message from mu_nin to hugh_inn. I also figured we needed to solve the Alpha/Omega puzzle to get there.

So, the only thing on the page is that picture. Don't know who the guy is. Anyone recognize that weird symbol on his shirt? The name of the JPG is "vw", is that car some sort of Volkswagen? There are also several suspicious looking shapes on the license plate, the windshield of the red car, and on the car in the background. The sort of look like they could be geographical shapes of some sort. The license plate one reminds me of a moose!

Perko

PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 11:50 am
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Stevoid
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T-shirt symbol

It's The Wildhearts logo on his shirt - see http://www.thewildhearts.com/

Good taste in bands if nothing else!

PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 4:56 pm
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jax
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This is just SPEC but...

Does anyone thing the emoticons that popup before you get redirected are a clue?

They come in this order:

>:(
>:(
>:(
:~(

Personally, I don't completely understand reesylou's methods when solving the previous emoticon puzzle, but maybe the dots they stood for can be turned into letters.

I don't know.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 5:13 pm
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lucky_starr
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When I first went back to the site it started to fill up with the sets of dots and fractions! Then after I went to try to view source the smilies started appearing and then it sent me to the front page of the site. Now when I go back I don't see anything.

PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 8:50 pm
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Perko
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SPEC: It just occurred to me that the "vw" could have in fact been a hint for the Ewan's new Password puzzle, where VV needed to be changed to a W. We solved that just before this page was found, but at the time it was prepared the password solution was still unknown. I don't know if this alone would justify the existence of this page, probably not.

PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 11:58 pm
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reesylou
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Solving the dots

Just so people understand a little better I will explain further how I did it. I will use '0' as an open circle and 'x' as a dot.

If you take:
0
0
x
x
x
and turn it sideways you get 00xxx (or 00111 = 7 using binary)

When I looked carefully at the symbols I found the following (already sideways to save space:
0000x, 000xx, 00x0x, 00xxx, 0xx00, 0xxxx, xxxxx or
1, 3, 5, 7, 12, 15, 31

I then looked at the fractions and found 1/1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8

I noticed that some of the patterns seemed to be more frequent, but were combined with different fractions. That gave me the idea to count the frequency of each pattern and fraction combination (eg 0000x with 1/4, or 00xxx with 1/8 etc). Doing this, I discovered that not all of the 28 combinations were used, and that some combinations were used way more (50 or 60 times) than others (4 or 5 times).

I guessed that it would be in English, but didn't have my letter frequency chart, so did it from memory for the most frequent letters. After picking the most frequent for 'E' and the next for 'T', I could see several places that could be interpreted as 'the', 'that', 'these'/'there', 'them', 'her' and continued from there. By that stage words were appearing quicker than I could keep up with them.

After that I just read through the sections with coherent words and filled in the gaps.

As an aside.... I also played a little with the smilies and (somewhere) still have a copy of it. I noticed that the "dots and fractions" were positioned using absolute numbers, and so in a different order to those on the screen. I applied the letters in the message and sorted the smilies in screen order... gibberish.

I also looked at the array provided in the code and tried to match it to letters. I made a = first smilie in array b= second etc..... gibberish

I then sorted the array in lexographic order (used Excel's sort) and applied a,b,c to them in that order... also gibberish

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2003 7:13 pm
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lucky_starr
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Has anyone else gone back to this page who hasn't been since it changed? I tried it from a friend's house and the dots and fractions came back up. When I went to minimize the window so I could start a screen capture program it went all frowny face and then sent me to the front page again, and then the page turned blank like before.

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 8:43 pm
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metalife
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did anyone notice the dots and fractions changed? i printed out the page and used reesylou's method to solve the message:

you crack codes never realizing that the shape of the forest is just as important as the trees not the flags or the monkey granted but the rest you must crack munins coiled message from beginning to end if you have any hope of assisting him

any ideas?

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2003 6:35 pm
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reesylou
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Obviously we have missed more than we realised.

I need more hours in my days... and days in my weeks...etc

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2003 7:14 pm
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Perko
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"munins coiled message from beginning to end" - sounds to me like a reference to the unsolved "letter cube". And it sounds like the solution is to follow a trail of letters from the Alpha (beginning) to the Omega (end). There are so many ways to go at each, but I'll take another shot at it.

Perko

PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2003 12:15 am
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lucky_starr
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Here is the file I used to crank out the flute notation pages. I did it all in JavaScript, just for kicks.
translator.html
Description  This turns typed text into CCS'd flute clef notation, given the right stylesheets.
html

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translator.html
Description  There were a couple of versions of the translator script, actually; this one spits out the randomized CSS as well for emoticon positioning.
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trans.zip
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