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[number9dream]

[Update] Quirky Acuity June 29th - Vacation on the plains

[RobPal]

It will be interesting to see if this blog entry stays for long or whether the 'static' will return, combined with another mysterious deletion of blogged info.

I hereby bare witness to the fact that this blog entry is definitely there, should it subsequently dissapear.

[WhiteGulls]

... And I bear witness to the screwed-upedness of the site. Did I miss something?! There's no layout any more!
*refreshes*
Oh, there's the layout. And the post is still there. Musta broke the CSS or something.

Anyways - she brings up a good point, why would the train end in the middle of nowhere? Perhaps the builders were hiding something over there?
Do we have a half-way decent map of PPC yet? Does it show where the train ends?
Sorry, I havn't been keeping up as well as I should be, considering that it's summer. Dunno why, either. Plenty of free time.

[BrianEnigma]

Re: [Update] Quirky Acuity June 29th - Vacation on the plain

[Leeravitz]

Surely the first question is: was the day *we* heard about Pietro's coma necessarily the same day that he was got to?

[yanka]

[Leeravitz]

Thanks for that, Yanka. But, of course, it's an answer that sidesteps the point I was trying to make. First time I did it in jest, but, actually, it might be worth stressing.

1. Pietro enters into a coma on 23rd June.

2. His last formal communication to TA is dated 19th June.

3. His 'recording' of a final discussion with TA would appear to have been taken down on Solstice Day, which is June 21st, although it is undated.

This could imply that Pietro was 'got to' sometime on June 21st or June 22nd - I think we may assume, for the sake of simplicity, that he was probably still 'clean' on the 19th.(although, again, there's no way to be certain of that...).

It would appear that the 'disease' affecting Pietro was degenerative, and *relatively* slow - working: i.e. he died over a period of several days, rather than several hours. This may well imply that it took some time to affect him initially. It seems suggestive that his wife discovered him back in their apartment, and this may imply that he had felt unwell at an earlier point in the day, returned home to take himself to bed, and then became progressively worse. He wasn't found passed out in the middle of the street, as if he had been overtaken suddenly.

All of this may well mean that Pietro had been carrying the 'infection' around with him for 24 hours before he even really noticed the effects - in which case, he could have been got at before Monday June 23rd. True, it seems a little questionable that he would not have told anyone, or attempted to programme his key earlier, if he had suspected something was amiss (I wouldn't think he could have told his wife or his newspaper bosses the whole story, anyway, but he might have mentioned the fact that he did not feel healthy, or felt his life to be in danger). Yet, he doesn't seem to have. Which either implies that he took client confidentiality *extremely* literally, or that, however, he was 'struck', he remained unaware of what had been done to him until such time as it felled him.

And this is starting to feel like it belongs in some other thread, anyway...

[tanner]

i think he ate a dodgy take-away meal

[Mikeyj]

And they were supposed to have sorted out Crispy Heaven too!

[Leeravitz]

You never know. Check the most recent Futures column...if Pietro's sign was The Half - Filled Jug...!!

[Scott]

Woah! hang on!!

he went into his coma on the evening of the 20th.
he emerged fFrom said coma on the 23rd.

Very important distinction!!

[yanka|tage]

[Scott]

right back at me As I'm writing stuff fFor the wiki, I'm often having to think and rethink exact dates. If something was reported on wednesday, it probably happened on Tuesday. And sometimes not. And sometimes we just don't know. It's easy to be off by one. It might be handy if we knew whether the Sentinel was the morning edition or the evening edition. On the other hand, it's always morning somewhere in the world. And PXC has an entirely different timezone altogether, making it that much messier. meh.

[Leeravitz]

Ah, a fair point. If Pietro fell into a coma on the 20th, and his last dated file was the 19th, then it suggests that he was hit quite suddenly...and,moreover, never made the final meeting on Solstic Day (21st) that he'd promised.

However : 1. This still doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't got to some time in advance before he succumbed to the coma. On the one hand, I'd be more inclined to assume a sudden onset (perhaps something like the theory that Pietro was shot on the morning of the 20th) given the abrupt cut off of his arrangements with TA. But, equally, we know that whatever Pietro had was progressively degenerative, and relatively slow - working - he didn't die for seven days after falling into the coma, and rallied for a time. Given that background, it might be logically to surmise that it had already been working on him for some little time before the onset became acute...

2. There is still an interesting mystery surrounding Pietro's final log entries. We reach the end of the dated correspondence, and are then presented (rather significantly, it seems to me) with undated material. The first set of questions were clearly notes of Pietro's own, summing up what he'd found out. Then, we have the intriguing suggestion that something was 'recorded' (i.e. transmitted orally, rather than in writing) - we read of nothing comparable anywhere else in the logs, and our transcript fragment suggests that it was again TA who was doing the talking. Then the 'recording' ends, and we are left with the final undated plea, which appears to have come from Pietro himself. So, there is a question about when these final fragments were added. Sequentially, we may assume that they occurred post the final dated message, and that Pietro did not date because he was in too much of a hurry, or attempting to keep the data more secret than hitherto. If he fell into the coma on the 20th, then that would appear to indicate these notes were either made late on the 19th, or early on the 20th. Yet, if the recording *is* of TA, this implies that they met briefly before they had previously arranged to (namely, on the Solstic at Ascendancy Point). So, was this a meeting called in desperate haste?? Or do most of these fragments actually belong to an earlier period in Salk and TA's correspondence, and were simply 'demoted' (as 'appendices'?...with the final plea perhaps excepted) to the end of the file.

[spugmeistress]

about the undated fragments at the end of the log transcripts on the wiki:

they are only at the end of the file because they are undated. the entire logs were not all originally found in chronological order. most conversations were kept pretty much in tact, but not always, and later conversations appeared before earlier ones etc. the diary style entries were found pretty much all over the place. the original order can be found by appending each sentence in pietro's maze messages to http://salkfamily.com, so for example, the first one would be http://salkfamily.com/iamdreamingnow which as you can see, is not the first chronologically. a few of us were finding them all on the IRC and automatically started putting them in order, Firefox uploaded the first ordered transcript and I put mine up later while I was updating everything. So yeah, just to say, the undated fragments don't necessarily come from the end of the files, they were just put there because we didn't know where they went (because they are undated). They could fit into the timeline anywhere.

rach =)